RE: Employment statistics
Associate Dean Dean
University of Utah University of Utah
SJ Quinney College of Law SJ Quinney College of Law
I give the school credit for responding to my letter, and doing so in an honest and forthright manner. This is refreshing. However, it is unnerving that this had to be brought to the school’s attention by a disgruntled JD. (Who knows? Maybe the law school knew about this and intended to keep it under wraps until it was brought to their attention.)
I love how the response is structured. In the first paragraph, the school thanks me for pointing out an "error." By doing so, it denies any attempt at fraud or deception. It then lists the "proactive course of action" the school will undertake to correct this mistake. Paragraph two offers excuses and explanations for the numbers - apparently, it is not entirely their fault. In the last substantive paragraph, the school hides behind "privacy concerns" as the reason why it cannot (read: will not) submit its employment figures to an independent audit. Also note that the associate dean for admissions and financial aid is the one who falls on his sword for the school.
The overall median for the Class of 2008 at Quinney was $62,400. Not exactly a great figure. Also, the salary range of $25,000-215,000 seems more accurate. So, this simply shows that you can indeed graduate from a “first tier law school” and still end up making $25K a year. What a great investment, huh?!?!
Fact: the S.J. Quinney College of Law is ranked significantly higher than Seton Hall’s law school. Yet, Seton Hall purports that - among its last graduating class - those in private practice earned a median starting salary of $125,000. This is brazen fraud. This raises the question: How many other law schools blatantly fudge their numbers?!
I want to thank all of you who have commented on this blog - even those of you who act as industry apologists. You have helped make this a better, more informative site. Those of you who commented on my last entry stating that the purported average starting salary of $89,021 was wrong have been vindicated by the school’s response. The school has acknowledged that this figure was incorrect and based on an error.
Lastly, as much as I would rather not spend Thanksgiving further informing my in-laws of the law school scam, it is better than eating crow!! (However, my existing student debt load will make it hard for me to digest the JD from my third tier turkey law school.)