On page 5 of the electronic version, Steven Greenberger - assistant dean of faculty at DePaul University Commode of Law - states the following:
“Who’s to say to any particular student, ‘You won’t be the one to get the $160,000-a-year job,’ ” says Steven Greenberger, a dean at the DePaul College of Law. “I think they should have all the info, and the info should be accurate, but saying once they know that they shouldn’t be allowed to come, that’s predicated on the idea that students are really ignorant and don’t know what is best for them.”
Guess what, genius? MOST prospective law students - and American college students, in general - are ignorant of the job market for lawyers. Many are also unaware of the impact that NON-DISCHARGEABLE student loans will have on their lives. I suppose you have not seen this in a law review article, so it may be difficult for you to digest.
On page 45 of DePaul University’s 2009 IRS Tax Form 990, you can see that Glen Weissenberger, then-dean of the college of law, made $339,874 in base compensation - for 2008. He also made $52,500 in bonus & incentive compensation; 19,599 in “other“ compensation; $18,400 in deferred compensation; and $12,509 in non-taxable benefits - for the same year. In sum, Weissenberger made $442,882 in TOTAL COMPENSATION for 2008. I am sure that Steven Greenberger has many rea$on$ to keep the gravy train rolling.
On page 4 of the Times article, David N. Yellen, dean at the Loyola University-Chicago Sewer of Law, spewed forth this nonsense:
“We ought to be doing a better job for our students and spend less time worrying about whether another school is five spots ahead,” says David N. Yellen, dean of the Loyola University Chicago School of Law. “But in the real world you can’t escape from the pressures. We’re all sort of trapped. I don’t know if anyone is out-and-out lying, but I do know that a lot of schools are hyping a lot of misleading statistics.” [Emphasis mine]
Oh, you feel trapped, David?!?! How do you think your grads feel when they are taking on an average of $89,786 in law school debt- with pathetic job prospects?! It’s no big deal, right?! After all, only 75% of the LUC Law Class of 2009 incurred such debt.
“When I was a candidate for this job,” said Phillip J. Closius, the dean of the University of Baltimore School of Law, “I said ‘I can talk for 10 minutes about the fallacies of the U.S. News rankings,’ but nobody wants to hear about fallacies. There are millions of dollars riding on students’ decisions about where to go to law school, and that creates real institutional pressures.” [Emphasis mine]
Phillip J. Closius, dean of the University of Baltimore Sewer of Law goes onto say:
“You can call it massaging the data if you want, but I never saw it that way,” he says. Weaker students wound up with lighter course loads, which meant that fewer of them flunked out. In his estimation, a dean who pays attention to the U.S. News rankings isn’t gaming the system;he’s making the school better.”
I wonder why you never saw this as dishonest, Phillip. (Exactly how does gaming the system make the school fundamentally better?) Then again, your students took out an average $86,133 in law school debt; and 84% of the Class of 2009 took on such debt. I wonder if your debt-soaked students would have taken on such debt, had you provided accurate info.
“A number of law schools hire their own graduates, some in hourly temp jobs that, as it turns out, coincide with the magical date. Last year, for instance, Georgetown Law sent an e-mail to alums who were “still seeking employment.” It announced three newly created jobs in admissions, paying $20 an hour. The jobs just happened to start on Feb. 1 and lasted six weeks.
A spokeswoman for the school said that none of these grads were counted as “employed” as a result of these hourly jobs. In a lengthy exchange of e-mails and calls, several different explanations were offered, the oddest of which came from Gihan Fernando, the assistant dean of career services. He said in an interview that Georgetown Law had “lost track” of two of the three alums, even though they were working at the very institution that was looking for them.” [Emphasis mine]
On page 3, Gihan Fernando, assistant dean of career services at Georgetown University Law Center has the sheer audacity to claim that he cannot track down two of the grads that worked for the school. Right - and Salma Hayek just broke into my house, ripped my clothes off and pinned me up against the wall.
I have saved the most egregious example for last. From the third page of this article:
“Beth Kransberger, associate dean of student affairs at Thomas Jefferson, stands by that figure, noting that it includes 25 percent of those graduates who could not be located, as well as anyone who went on to other graduate studies — all perfectly kosher under the guidelines.
Like lots of administrators, she defends the figures she gathers and laments that so many other schools are manipulating results.
“You need to take the high road,” she said. “Schools that are behaving the most ethically want students who come to law school with their eyes open.”
Beth Kransberger, associate dean of student affairs at fourth tier trash heap TTTThoma$ Jeffer$on $chool of Law stands by the placement rate that her school published. That’s nice, isn’t it?! Beth, you work at one of the most sickening fourth tier toilets in the entire country. You can’t track down graduates?! No problem!! Just count them as “employed”!!
As you can see, those members of the TJ$L Class of 2009 who incurred law school debt took out an average of $131,800 in law school loans; furthermore, 95% of this unfortunate graduating class took on such debt. This is the highest debt figure and percentage - as listed by US News & World Report.
Go to page 25 of this festering commode’s 2009 Form 990, to see how well these gluttons are making out - on the federal teat.
In the final analysis, these administrators are too entrenched and $elf-intere$ted to evaluate the system objectively. Any meaningful change MUST come from outside pressure. The ABA does not have what it takes to limit the damage; in fact, they are more than happy to accredit pretty much accredit any proposed law school. Because that will help reduce the glut of attorneys, right?!