Saturday, January 1, 2011

Ring in the New Year with Fourth Tier Capital University Law School

Tuition: A full-time student attending the private “institution of higher learning” known as Capital University Law School - for the 2010-2011 school year - will be charged $1106 per credit hour. Seeing that a typical full-year course load is 30 hours, a full-time law student at Capital can look forward to paying $33,180 in tuition - for a single year!

Total Cost of Attendance: Since this commode only provides living expenses for those who intend to live on campus and purchase the “meal plan,” we will rely on estimated living expenses from the other law school in Columbus. Ohio State lists this figure as $15,584; Comprehensive health insurance is estimated to be $1,546; and the cost of books/supplies is listed as $3,860.

Using these figures, this adds another $20,990 to the tab. This would bring the estimated total COA - for the current school year - to roughly $54,170!

Ranking: The cost of attendance is a little steep, especially for those of modest means. But the school can surely justify this cost with its stellar reputation in the academic, legal and business communities, right?!?! Sure it can - and Jessica Alba ran her lips and tongue down my torso when the clock struck midnight on January 1st. You see, US News & World Report lists this school as a fourth tier pile of corroded waste.

Employment Placement: “For the Class of 2009, 87.6% of the graduates known to be seeking employment were employed or enrolled in a full-time degree program nine months after graduation.”

How many of these grads were working in the lumber section at The Home Depot? What percentage of this graduating class is selling insurance, teaching grade school, or stocking shelves at Office Max?! According to this same page, the school notes the following:

“Capital University Law School was founded in 1903 as an evening law program by the YMCA and as part of a national program to assure access to a legal education by all men and women who could not afford to attend a full-time law school.” [Emphasis mine]

How many people can afford to pay $33,180 in annual tuition now?!?!

Average Student Indebtedness: USN&WR lists the average student indebtedness for Class of 2009 Crapital Law grads who incurred law school debt at $98,531. Furthermore, 92% of this particular graduating class foolishly took on law school debt - for a TTTT law degree. Capital, indeed.

Law Faculty Compensation: Let’s juxtapose student indebtedness with the salaries and total compensation of the faculty. Heading to page 9 of Crapital University’s 2009 Form 990, we can see that the five highest-paid faculty members are “law professors.”

Jack Guttenberg allegedly worked 60 hours a week as dean of the commode of law, and made $253,485 in TOTAL COMPENSATION - for 2008. This piggy made $222,053 in base compensation plus $31,432 in “estimated amount of other compensation from the organization and other related organizations.”

Take a look at the following “law professors” and their TOTAL COMPENSATION for 2008: “international law expert” Daniel C. Turack made $206,841; “Newton D. Baker/Baker and Hostetler Chair of Law” Mark R. Brown “earned” $208,175; Roberta S. Mitchell made $206,192; Stanton G. Darling II raked in $183,206; and Mark P. Strasser made $189,356. Now you know where all that capital is going.

Entering Student GPA and LSAT Scores: This site shows that the 75th percentile of entering students, for the CapiTTTTal Univer$iTTTTy Law Sewer Class of 2009, scored a 156 on the LSAT. Those in the 25th percentile had a score of 151. Those in the 75th percentile had a UGPA of 3.51, whereas those in the 25th percentile earned a 2.94 GPA during undergrad. If you have similar numbers, then you may end up at a fourth tier piece of trash.

EDIT: The school has been in operation since 1903 - as the Columbus Law School. According to this Avvo rating/profile, Capital Law School has 5,709 total alumni. Of this figure, 1,131 members are inactive. ALSO, AMONG THESE 5,709 GRADUATES, ONLY THREE ARE JUDGES!!! And 153 have apparently received disciplinary sanctions.

Conclusion: This school’s graduates will be competing against OSU Law grads for jobs. Keep in mind that the top-ranked law school in the state, i.e. “The” Ohio State University, only charges Ohio residents $24,324 in tuition for the 2010-2011 academic year. If this is the best school you can get into - and you are NOT receiving a full-tuition scholarship and living at home - then you need to re-take the LSAT. Attending a law school that counts 3 judges among its alumni might not be a wise decision.

This school is a joke, and the stench of this place will not leave you in this lifetime. Remember, you DO NOT NEED to incur another $100K-$160K in non-dischargeable debt - for a TTTT law degree. In the end, you will be left with anemic job prospects. Do you want to consign yourself to a lifetime of debt servitude so that some “Newton D. Baker/Baker and Hostetler scholar” can make more than $208K annually?!?!


  1. According to LawSchoolNumbers, 0.0% of the 05-06 entrants had full-tuition scholarships and only 10% had half-tuition scholarships. The place has really high attrition. Only 84% reportedly employed when the economy was better in 2005. I can't even find median salary lies on their website anywhere.

    Kids, you're betting off going to beauty school.

  2. That's quite telling and good research by j-dog. The place sounds almost as bad as Cooley.

    High attrition could be a good thing and might save some people but that just means they admit more students to get the numbers they want to stick, after factoring in attrition, while washing out the rest and taking the money.

    No salary statistics? Good luck kids.. You're fucked. And not in a good way.

  3. The school is stingy with scholarship $. Nando, you should focus on this too. Sadly, sadly, young lemmings will think they are going to set the world on fire 'cause they got into a fucking TTTT. Well these kids will end up getting a shitload of debt to go with that law degree. How's that sound for starters? It only gets worse from there. These kids will leanr that businesses don't respect the JD. Law schools do not teach anything useful. Yeah, you spent 3 yrs reading case law. COngratulations. Can you help us sell more goods? Can you manage others? No. No. Then get outta here. (This is if you are even lucky enough to get an interview).

  4. @January 1, 5:45

    You are 100% dead-on-balls accurate.

    Kids, please, I beg of you--HEED THE WARNING!

    And I am talking to you from deep within my grave.

  5. Unlike the gentleman above, I am addressin' ya from ther grave.

    Hope y'all downed a bucket o' the Colonel's grilled chickens 'n a 2 liter o' Pepsi to celebrate da new ya.

    Ennyway, I's been remines...I mean thinkin' 'bout mah life. Way befo' I started my chicken store franchises I was a lawyer. Didja know dat? I surely was. I didn' even hafta go t' no goddamn law school. No siree. I got my law degree from correspondence school (Southern University).

    Turns out I didn; have da temperament for bein' a lawyer. I ended up whippin' a clients ass in court. If ya ask me, sumbitch had it comin'. Don't be tellin' The Colonel how to do ya case. If ya do, I'll end up... ah, you's gets the idea.

    all's well that ends well. Shit I ended up doin' better than 99% of da lawyers out there. Got the lesson, kids?


    Public pretender gets blasted in the jaw by his 'client'

  7. Vorys, Sater, Seymour & Pease LLP will
    gladly hire you...

    Did you go to their On Campus Interview ?

    You should also attend their Job Fair.

  8. @ 9:09 pm,

    I did not attend law school in Ohio, so I did not attend CapiTTTTal’s OCI. I doubt that many Capital JDs have a shot in hell of landing paid legal employment with larger law firms. It seems that such a firm would prefer to hire Ohio State JDs - and grads from highly-ranked law schools.,_Sater,_Seymour_and_Pease

    Do you think corporate clients want to see Capital TTTT lawyers working on their important cases?!?! Certainly, a relative few TTT and TTTT grads can make senior partner or become “of counsel.” However, when you look up Biglaw attorney and partner bios, you will notice that most of those employees graduated from programs such as Harvard, Yale, NYU, Columbia, Georgetown, Duke, etc.

    Prestige is still king when it comes to law. Seeing that law schools do not impart practical skills on their students, law firms go with name brand. Conversely, medical and dental schools actually teach their students and recent graduates to be doctors and dentists. Therefore, medical offices, hospitals and dentist offices do not typically care if you did not attend a top school. They know that you have the practical skills, knowledge and EXTENSIVE training to do the job.

    Connections are crucial for those who do not get into top law schools. In fact, TTTs and TTTTs are often home to children of local judges, top local attorneys, federal magistrates, politicians, and wealthy families. The diploma mills LOVE these families, for the following reasons: (a) they do not need to give these students much financial aid; (b) these families are MUCH more likely to donate to the school’s capital campaign and/or host fundraisers for the university; and (c) they can pretty much rely on a bump in employment placement rate - as their connections will likely lead to employment.

    To J-Dog,

    Thanks for pointing that out. Many bottom-feeder law schools are stingy with their scholarship and grant money. Perhaps, their endowment is much smaller than those of major universities and elite law schools. However, this impacts the students, who will then need to rely more on NON-DISCHARGEABLE student loans.

    On page 33, you can see that CapiTTTTal Univer$iTTTTy Law Sewer claimed an average starting salary of $59,849 for its grads - in the Princeton Review Best 170 Law School 2008 Edition survey.

    For the sake of argument, let’s say this figure is accurate - even if we can be certain that the successful respondents filled out the survey in greater numbers than the washouts. US News reports that the average student indebtedness for the 2009 Capital JD Class of 2009 at $98,531. It will be very difficult to re-pay those loans on such a salary. Now, imagine paying off $98K+ in law school loans - on a $37K annual salary.

  9. Fuck you scambloggers. The schools are still raking in the dough. Save a few schmucks from going, and another person will take their place.

  10. ^

    (Said the Enraged Capital University Law Professor.)

  11. Nando says:

    "Connections are crucial for those who do not get into top law schools. In fact, TTTs and TTTTs are often home to children of local judges, top local attorneys, federal magistrates, politicians, and wealthy families."

    That is so true.

    I remember that at my graduation ceremony for Touro there were a number of people who were greeted on stage by a family member who was either a judge, or other type of noteable local attorney and/or politician. And it was more than just a few, to the point where I said to myself "WTF?"

    It didn't mean much to me at the time, but I look back on it now with 20/20 hindsight.

    I remember looking at this gal or that guy and thinking about how they seemed stressed in the first year as a 1L, as if we were all in the same "Boat" together.

    What a fucking naieve young shithead I was.

  12. At my TTT graduation I saw plenty of local judges, politicians and important rich local attorneys hugging their JD son or daughter. I aslo recall thinking What the fuck? I saw some classmates who I had never seen in class before. Some of those people were sons & daughters of appelate judges. One guy's father was on the fucking state supreme court. Looking back we should have seen what we were up against. The deck was stacked froim day one even at my TTT (and probably yours too.)

  13. @ 1:33

    You mean rich local snakes hissing with pride and delight over thier brood of newly hatched eggs.

    I'm so tempted to put down some of the names of those people here.

    One guy had a big family firm to go to, and whenever the professors called on him in class there was a sort of unspoken and mutual understanding of who the little fucker was.
    If he wasn't prepared for class, he would be sort of passed over with a sly grin on the part of the professor.

    That's another topic Nando should explore. Sly, snake like and reptilian law school faculty faces and demeanors, with cold-blooded lizard-like souls.

    Slouching, scurrying and slumping wily and intelligent rats--not all, but most of them.


    According to this avvo rating/profile on Capital University Law School, here is a breakdown of practice areas among the school’s alumni:

    Litigation (10%)
    Personal Injury (7%)
    Real Estate (6%)
    Business (6%)
    Estate Planning (5%)
    Other (66%)

    Does “other” include selling home and auto insurance; tending bar; serving as a bank teller; manager at Staples; public school teacher; etc.?!?!

    Furthermore, this chart shows that Capital Law Sewer has 5,709 total alumni. Of this figure, 1,131 members are inactive. ALSO, AMONG THESE 5,709 GRADUATES, ONLY THREE ARE JUDGES!!! Also, 153 have received disciplinary sanctions. What does that tell you about the quality of CapiTTTTal JDs?!

    Back in May 2007, this article details and then picks apart the law school myths. This piece has also received 192 comments. According to Stephen Seckler, the five myths are: (1) I’ll be able to use my law degree in whatever career I choose; (2) I’ll get a job when I graduate law school; (3) I’ll get to be in court and try cases; (4) I’ll be able to advocate for the little guy; and (5) I’ll have intellectually challenging work.

    Also, the author just *might* know what he is talking about.

    Lastly, this entry notes that NO ONE should go to graduate school, as a way to hide from the recession. This article does not mention that the U.S. economy is undergoing a fundamental restructuring. However, prospective law students – and all grad students – NEED to realize that they simply may come out with an extra $100K-$200K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt, only to face a weak economy 2-5 years later.

  15. 1:33 and 6:16: I, too, saw this stuff back in my TTT days. From a blue-collar, non-law family, I looked about incredulously at people who I had not SEEN in class until the final exam. They already had been coached on which professors to completely skip out on and ignore, and which classes to be at, etc. I wasted time listening to incomprehensible and useless (as it turned out)lectures while those in the know had it all canned and then showed up for the final. All insider stuff. Only in law school do you see this kind of thing. I caught on way too late to the law school scam.

  16. I went to the piece of shit known as U. of Richmond for law school. I too saw people receiving diplomas that I had never seen. I mean not one time in my entire three years. Not a barbecues, SBA events, mixers. And I surely did not see 'em in class. Then at the banquet afterward I noticed they were seated at tables with prominenet local judges and politicians. I found out these were their parents. It is all a game, and if you're poor and don't come from a family of lawyers and judges it's a losing proposition. Sweet dreams. This profession is a joke.

  17. My local district attorneys office is filled with kids of prominent lawyers and judges. They go to the DA or PD offices and get trial experience. Then after about 4 years, the join their parents firms and handle more lucrative litigation. The assistant district attorneys from blue collar backgrounds don't know the game and make careers of public service or later get salaried legal jobs.

    My former second chair at the DA's office has a father who is an attorney. He left the DA's office and worked with his dad for about 2 years. Then his dad got appointed a judge while the son took over the practice.

    The biggest secret passed on within families is how to practice law; ie how to win, pick cases, get clients, etc.

  18. Speaking of reptiles, snakes and lizards, here is a great old song called: "The Snake"

    Heed the the words of this short song well young kids, because if you lie to yourself, and think you are an exception to the rule, don't be surprised one day when you are mortally bitten by the law school "Snakes"

  19. Another version here:

    Watching the images makes my skin crawl.

    And is was Eve, a woman, that caved in to the snake or Devil first remember.

  20. There have been a number of good comments on this article. 4:31 may be the best of them all.

    'The biggest secret passed on within families is how to practice law; ie how to win, pick cases, get clients, etc.'

    They pass on the trade and skills to their sons and daughters. Those whose family members are lawyers know how to compose themselves in court, they already know the lingo and mannerisms and they know which cases to avoid. The kids who don't have these connections go in blind. They are so desperate, they take anything that walks in the door. And these are the same lawyers that need to go after clients for unpaid fees later on.

  21. @ 8:58

    Great point. I think I can try and illustrate what you just wrote, but from a client's perspective:

    A number of years ago I walked into Siben and Siben on Long Island with a possible personal injury case. They are a rather old family run firm in a town that is pretty run down by now (Bayshore). The late Mario Puzo used to live in Bayshore I think.

    When I told a few other attorneys and people later that I had gone to Siben and Siben for a consultation they clapped their hands to their foreheads and groaned and said something like: "Cheez! That place is a "Mill". Why didn't you ask me about it first?"

    The attorney that intervewed me was a family member, and a really fast talking guy.

    I swear to God, when I was in the waiting room, a man walked out of one lawyer's office with a cast on his arm, and as he was going down the relatively steep staircase to leave, his lawyer laughed and patted him on the back and said: "Watch out for those people with cameras!"

    The reason I say all this is because apparantly I didn't have a strong case.

    First I was seated in an office with a clerk (a younger guy) who was behind a desk with a nameplate. I naturally assumed that the nameplate belonged to the guy behind the desk (who wouldn't). The guy then asked me all sorts of questions.

    Later, I spoke with a fast talking lawyer/son of the firm, who became very hostile and dismissive and, figuratively speaking of course, grabbed me by the scruff of the neck, and threw me out of the office.

    A few days later I got a letter that said they were not going to represent me.

    All of this after a 3 month wait, during which they did almost zero work, and only took care of the minimum paperwork requirements barely before the deadline.

    Family firm. Family training. Family attitude.

    It was with dismay that I learned that Siben and Siben donates money to the local law schools like Touro and Hofstra. But, in all fairness, I did hear that the people at these schools sort of hold thier noses while they accept Siben and Siben's donor money.

    Maybe this scenario is typical of every town in America. I don't know.

    So my advice is that if anyone out there ever has a personal injury case, and whether it is a strong case or a not so clear-cut one, go to a lawyer that is willing to devote some individal attention to the matter, and not to a well advertised "Mill" looking for easy clear-cut cases that they can turn over for a quick settlement.

    How is a young 22 year-old with no family connections in Law supposed to understand all this?

    And how is that kid supposed to understand the entire law school system, with no family guidance?

    And then if out practicing, how to distinguish between the cases that will be profitable, and those that are a waste of time?

    But my advice, after my Siben and Siben experience, is to always have a good bedside manner, because that client with a poor case may well show up next year with a very strrong case. Or refer someone that has.

    Because if you treat him or her like shit, they ain't coming back. And that is why a lot of people on Long Island clap their palms to their forheads and groan when the hear the name: "Siben and Siben"

  22. @ 8:58 said:

    "Those whose family members are lawyers know how to compose themselves in court, they already know the lingo and mannerisms"

    I remember as a 1L how horribly stressful it was, and how fearful I always felt about being called upon. Some professors were tougher than others if a student was unprepared.

    I remember one professor bawling someone out in front of the whole class with the warning about how it was even tougher to go before a "Judge"

    How bitterly I remember that experience as I sit here deeply in debt.

    If what you say is accurate, and it probably is, I really feel sorry for a new and non-connected attorney that gets all kinds of shit, as he learns by raw experience as opposed to having a family member show him the ropes and/or mentor him or her.
    Several professors actually used that line about preparing the students for the "toughness" of a judge.

    Another one was this: "You are going to be responsible for people's lives!"

    One professor hollered that at the 1L Contracts class after he called on a student and learned the student hadn't read the case.

    The professor then walked out and didn;t come back.We were all terrified.

    How very, very bitterly I remember that experience--because it turned out to be MY life that was destroyed with unemployment and debt by the irresponsibility of the Law School.

  23. The law is a fucking joke. If ya don't believe that check this out. Look up the campaign finance laws of this country. Some states have no fucking limit on the amount an individual may give to politicians. What do you think they're paying for, genius? (Here's a hint: they're paying for the same thing a john does with a hooker.)

    Attend a traffic court sometime. Cop says you ran a red light, and the guy cannot produce the tape from the police car? Aw, fuck it. I find by that the state has proven its case beyond a reasonable doubt. Fuck you, pay the fine and court costs.

    You got the prosecutor to dismiss your case? (How'd you get that to happen? Did you agree to munch her vag later on?) You don't have to pay the $50 speeding ticket. But fuck you anyway and pay the $80 court costs.

    You think judges are there to deliver justice and look at the facts? They are politicians and they don't even look at the case files. They skim the file for a minute. So does the presecutor. Then the perfunctory defense lawyer is expceted to get his client to plead guilty to something. Everyone goes home happy, 'cept for the criminal defendant who gets to sleep on a cement slab. Honestly I don't care when the criminal is guilty, but this is also the procedure when the defendant is not guilty. Tell your guy to plead to this charge, or I'll add more charges and prosecute him until his ass bleeds.

    The law. You gotta love it. It should tell you something that artists philosopher and writers have done a number on the law for centuries.

    1. There is very little justice in the criminal justice system.

  24. I remember all that stuff too. I had given up a career, and I was nervous about the risk I was undertaking. My wife had to work part time in stuff that didn't relate to her career just to help make ends meet. But I thought I was doing the right thing.

    Some of my fellow students weren't stressed at all. I was amazed at how "cool" there were, when even with my life experience I was a little on edge. It's a big step, no matter who you are, right?

    Unless you're going to work for mommy or daddy's firm. Must be nice to have zero risk with something lucrative lined up for you from the beginning of time. I look back at my sacrifices and those of my family, and it wasn't worth it. Absolutely taken to the cleaners becuase I wasn't in the winner's bracket day one. It amazes me how one-sided it all is even now.

  25. Here's another rock to look under in the stats--- capital has a night program wherein all or nearly all of the students are employed before, during, and after law school. So it would follow that 100% of the night class will be considered employed in the stats. This should hold true for any school that has a night/part time program.

  26. I started out law school because it was my desire to become a child and family law advocate. I blindly entered Capital Law School because I was given a scholarship and the school was near my home town. I quickly discovered that the cost, even with my scholarship, didn't even come close to being a good investment.
    When I would express my fear of how bad the legal industry was becoming while the cost of a legal education continued to skyrocket, nearly all students would respond with : 1. A law degree is versatile so you don't have to practice law for a law degree to be a good idea. 2. Capital is well connected with local firms and the job placement services will hook you up. 3. Just finish in the top of your class like I will and you'll be fine.
    I sometimes feel bad for my fellow students who didn't get out in their first semester and are still wasting their time and money.
    But then I remember that most of them have a dilusional outlook. Some seem to think that because of their law degree they will be making a million dollars a year and only working 40 hours a week. No facts or figures any one will tell these students will change their minds because they all think that no matter how bad things are, they will be the one in a million who makes it big.
    The law faculty deep down inside have to know that they are part of a system that is basically stealing from ignorant students and family.

    1. I graduated in the bottom 20% of my class at CULS in the 1990's, and things might have worked out better if I had stayed in engineering, but I did have the chance to become co-counsel on a US SCT case (we lost by 1 vote), and right now have earned a lots of share in tech startups for reduced fees that might become worth alot, but CULS had little credit in my success. I heard a lot of really dumb comments by liberal profs at CULS, and I am quite certain that I was graded low by a lot of profs for being a conservative, but my success is the best revenge.

  27. I Graduated Capital Law with 105K in debt. I think the school is great it has placed me in job where in 2 yrs I paid all my debt. Don't listen to this fool who wrote this blog. Invest on your future and remember that it isen't the school that makes the student but the student who makes the school.

  28. The cockroach who posted at 7:04 am cannot even write a gramatically-correct sentence. Learn some basic sentence structure, ignorant bitch.

    Do you actually expect ANYONE to believe your false story? In fact, even this TTTT wouldn't accept your ass. If you are going to lie, at least set your standards higher than CapiTTTTal Univer$iTTTTy, cretin.

  29. Might as well leave a comment. I am a felon, so I am screwed as to where I can go to law school. I am going to shoot for the moon, but I don't think much will happen. I have a pretty good LSAT score and a pretty good gpa. While incarcerated, I sued the crap out of the state holding me, and I won a few and lost a few, but I was never banned from filing.

    If I have to go to Shit-can Capitol, because I cannot get in a real law school, I will. I will use my post 9/11 gi bill to defray cost.

    And, when I graduate I will hang my shingle.

    Capitol sucks ass. We all know it. But, no self-respecting law school will let me in, because of my felony. Who gives a damn if I am in the top 99 percent of applicants.

    What's the best of the shitty schools?

  30. The night school at Capital also skews the employment percentage since nearly all the night school grads are employed throughout school and upon graduation - albeit not employed as lawyers.

  31. To the felon trying to get into law school - getting a seat in law school will be a huge hurdle, but nothing compared to being accepted into the bar.

    I graduated with a 3.5 GPA from a private liberal arts school. My LSAT score was 158 and my brilliant dumb-a$$ ended up at Capital Law. I was published before graduating high school, I dual majored in English & Poli Sci with a minor in Philosophy and was accepted to Duquesne Law, Case Western, WVU, Syracuse, Ohio Northern (Ada) & Capital. I did not get accepted into Pitt or OSU.

    I am now a practicing and successful attorney here in Ohio and I'm still paying student loans 10 years after graduation (I’d say I still owe a little over $70k). The legal writing department at Capital is hit/miss depending on which professor you get. But when you miss, you miss BIG! Assuming you’re already solid at punctuation, spelling and grammar, legal writing and legal analysis is the most important aspect of being a lawyer - you must be able to convey your arguments in writing to judges, senior attorneys, opposing counsel, etc. If you can't write, you can't lawyer. I've been writing my whole life and the lack of attention I received from my writing professor was disparaging, especially considering the amount of money it was costing me to take his class. Legal writing is a different beast and it must be taught, not stated.

    No matter how much you've memorized, you will fail the bar if you don't learn the complexities of good legal writing and a hint: it's not just I-R-A-C. Good luck at Capital, they won't see a dime from me until my student loans are paid off. Even then, I feel no ties back to this school - unlike my undergraduate school.

  33. Good to see this. Capital is engaged in massive consumer fraud and the Columbus Dispatch doesn't have the balls to expose it. Nobody should be borrowing $100,000 to go to a fourth tier law school.

  34. Maybe things were different in the past. I graduated from the night program in 1980, and immediately got a job with the Ohio AG, which paid $23k - about $72k in today's dollars. I paid my way through the program doing clerkships, waitering, etc. I felt the education was actually very good, all things considered - and this was while the school was located in Bexley, with the main university, and the library was a converted automobile showroom, attached to a White Castle. I went on to make very good money as a sole practioner, and had a most satisfying career. It's just sad that these days the costs are so crushing and almost all of the gentility of practicing law seems to be gone.

  35. Most of these posters seem like angry people looking for ways to explain their own failures. I graduated from Capital University Law School in the mid 1980's and I have had a very successful and rewarding career practicing law. Which law school you attend doesn't really matter if you have a true aptitude for law and work hard.

    1. I agree that in general anyone with a law license who works hard and treats people with respect can have a good career in law, and if you have a tech background, you can leave Ohio for prosperous states.


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