Monday, April 11, 2011

A Pig in Sheep’s Clothing: Indiana University “Law Professor” William Henderson

“Professor Henderson joined the Indiana Law faculty in 2003 following a visiting appointment at Chicago-Kent College of Law and a judicial clerkship for Judge Richard Cudahy of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit."

As you can see from his faculty bio, Henderson graduated from law school in 2001. He then had a clerkship and taught at Chicago-Kent Commode of Law, before heading to the Mauer School of Law in 2003. He teaches a class on law firms as business models. The fact is this “man” doesn’t know the first thing about business - or how law firms operate. He may have an academic understanding of the situation, but that is the extent of his knowledge. He cannot truly relate to the recent JD, no matter how he tries to come across as “blue-collar” or sympathetic.

Remember When William Henderson Had a Pair?

Henderson co-authored this 2008 IU law review article, with Andrew P. Morriss. It is entitled a “Measuring Outcomes: Post-Graduation Measures of Success in the U.S. News & World Report Law School Rankings.” Here is one excerpt, from page 44 of the PDF:

“Publishing reliable school-level information on employment types, employment rates, geographic placement, and salary would inevitably lead to more price-sensitive shopping on the part of prospective students. This information would permit them to make more informed choices. Similarly, it would also push high-cost schools to justify their programs’ additional cost to prospective students, making the market for legal education more competitive…Since our collective enterprise is made possible by their ability to borrow money against their future earnings, the legal academy has an obligation to ensure fair and accurate disclosure to prospective students.” [Emphasis mine]

Who can forget Henderson’s analysis of bi-modal distribution, of starting salaries, for the JD Class of 2008? (By the way, it is interesting to note that there were 43,588 law graduates pumped out of ABA law schools, for the Class of 2008. Yet, only 22,305 reported starting salary info. If those not working full-time and those not in private practice were included in the data, you can be certain that this chart would show an even greater disparity in income, among recent JDs.)

“Enron-type accounting standards have become the norm,” says William Henderson of Indiana University, one of many exasperated law professors who are asking the American Bar Association to overhaul the way law schools assess themselves. “Every time I look at this data, I feel dirty.” [Emphasis mine]

As of January 8, 2011, Henderson still had a set. Fast forward to March 1, 2011:

Henderson’s Quick Transformation from Man to Mouse:

This article, based on the research of Henderson, purports to show that average lawyer salaries are rather high. (Of course, Judas is only counting “employed attorneys” - not solos, small law practitioners, licensed attorneys working at Radio Shack or equity partners.) By the way, William: How the hell can the legal job market be glutted, with scarce jobs, outsourcing and off-shoring at full speed - and yet average lawyer pay is so high?!?!?

During a recent phone conversation, William Henderson had the nerve to tell me that Dean Matasar at New York Law School was working hard to improve “legal education.” When I pointed out that NYLS is a third tier commode that charges it full-time students $46,460 in tuition and fees , Henderson said the following: “What you don’t understand is that most of those students come from wealthy families, so they aren’t taking on a bunch of debt for the degree.”

I suppose this info would come as a surprise to Henderson. US News lists the average indebtedness of NYL$ 2010 graduates who incurred law school debt at $119,437. Fully 93% of this toilet’s particular graduating class took on such debt. William, if you are going to pose as an “expert,” AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE FACTS TO SUPPORT YOUR CASE. Otherwise, you lose credibility.

William “Judas” Henderson is the director of the law school’s Center on the Global Legal Profession. He is FULLY AWARE of doc review basements, falling wages, and the fundamental re-structuring of the U.S. economy - including the legal job sector. Yet, this shill became upset, during a recent panel, when I noted that politics - not unforeseen “market forces” - is responsible for more outsourcing. (I noted that ABA committees are dominated by Biglaw attorneys and “law professors” - and that this decision exacerbated the existing problem, while helping Biglaw.) When I pointed out to Henderson that ABA “Ethics” Opinion 08-451 allowed foreign lawyers AND non-lawyers to engage in American legal discovery, the pig squealed, “I don’t think lawyers should be working to ensure that doc review jobs remain domestic.”

What a beacon of integrity, huh?!?!

In the final analysis, William Henderson has a mere academic interest in the shrinking lawyer job market. He has NO INTEREST in changing the law school model. Who can blame him? He is making a nice salary, under the current $y$tem. Who cares if several thousand JDs each year take on monstrous debt, and face anemic job prospects? Henderson needs plenty of time for his academic research.

This swine is more pernicious than most “law professors.” After all, William Henderson has made a name for himself, by covering the dwindling job market. He has been interviewed several times, on the topic. Apparently, he merely used this “subject” as a vehicle for getting published, in numerous academic journals. I guess Henderson is on track to became a dean somewhere.

By the way, I sent a copy of this entry to Sellout William Henderson at We’ll see if this long-winded, aloof academic replies to my email or comments on this entry.


  1. I think my favorite part is the quote "Well yes but the kids come from wealthy families" --- which also turned out to be incorrect.

    Let's say he's right and the students actually did come from wealthy is that ok? Maybe if they were robbing the rich to feed the poor...but it sounds like his intention is for the less rich to rob the more rich. Meanwhile the average person can't play that kind of game--any kind of higher ed--and come out ahead.

    Let's just admit that higher education should revert to what it was pre-WWII, a place for only a very small population of the highly intelligent (genius), extremely dedicated (scholars), or very wealthy kids (ivys).

  2. Why did anyone believe this guy gave a shit about students in the first place? He hasn't done a thing to change the situation. Sure he's written a couple articles here and there. That doesn't amount to shit. Anyone that has graduated from ls in the last 15 years could tell you the same thing. Just another professor getting fat and happy from the system.

  3. Demosthenes beat me too it, but I'll chime in as well.

    When the attitude is that debt is not that bad because the wealthy will merely pay out of pocket anyway, then we need to stop this farce. Let's just shelve the meritocracy myth, go back to the 1920s, and be done with it.

    However, the problem with higher education is that, we, as a nation, have delegated the job of HR departments and hiring partners to higher ed for decades - "let God sort 'em out", as the classic line goes. You have to pay to play to make it anywhere in this economy - something the rich understand all too well. And the best way to keep the peasants in their place is to raise tuition.

  4. Fraud is okay as long as the victim has money? I didn't know that, Bill.

    This guy is a law professor?

  5. I fully agree with Dupednon. and he makes very excellent points. You have to Pay to Play. The illusion of meritocracy is propaganda. I know connected, wealthy people from my undergrad as well as from law school who were strictly average (or below) in every respect and are doing quite well. The average kid looking to "get ahead" *has no chance* and is grist for the education mill. If people choose not to believe it, so be it. They all find out soon enough and its the hard way. Its "Let God sort 'em out" indeed.

  6. I hope the kids at IU all see this article. I'm sure they will be pleased to discover that they come from rich families.

    As for henderson's free-market view of doc review, I hope he extends the principle to law professors--who can easily be replaced with adjuncts paid by the course, if not by recorded lectures posted on you tube.

  7. This guy is a third tier loser trying to gain entry to a first tier world.

  8. The comment about rich kids going to NYLS is complete bullshit. Most of the grads that I know that come out of that stench pit come from low to middle class backgrounds. Put it this way, if you were wealthy, you could use legacy and donations to send your kid to a better school than NYLS. If I had a kid who went to law school, I would consider myself a failure. If my kid went to NYLS, then not only am I failure but so is my spawn.

  9. I am disappointed. The guy came off as wanting to help recent lawyers. Then he does this. He'll be a dean soon. I just hope it was worth selling his soul.

    @ Knut: I was thinking the same thing. If it's okay to defraud rich people why is Madoff in jail?

  10. “What you don’t understand is that most of those students come from wealthy families, so they aren’t taking on a bunch of debt for the degree.”


    Great Post Nando. The system is so deeply corrupted and the fact that he is a critic of the status quo in words not substance is proof of this.

  11. Henderson the pig. What a pile of trash. Unreal how this shit just continues. Keep fighting Nando, you've got MANY newly minted JDs (for whatever that is worth, LOL) on your side.

    Take this shit to the streets.

  12. Fool: Thou canst tell why one's nose stands i' the middle on's face?

    KING LEAR: No.

    Fool: Why, to keep one's eyes of either side's nose; that what a man cannot smell out, he may spy into.

  13. Re: offshoring of doc review:

    So I have a friend who's staffing a giant doc review project. I asked her about using one of these overseas providers, and she said they're probably not going to last long. Apparently the results so far have been just shy of disastrous. Work is having to be re-done stateside by competent doc reviewers. Maybe they'll get their act together in India, but it turns out the outsourcing scare may not be as big an issue as previously thought.

    PS this isn't a ringing endorsement to go to law school; these people still make $30/ hour after having sunk 6 figures into the JD.

  14. @ evrenseven,

    "PS this isn't a ringing endorsement to go to law school; these people still make $30/ hour after having sunk 6 figures into the JD."

    I just got hired for a doc review that pays 20 an hour. I would kill for 30.

  15. "Maybe they'll get their act together in India, but it turns out the outsourcing scare may not be as big an issue as previously thought."

    Only a matter of time. If lawyering can be outsourced, it will be. Do you really think GE is gonna waste a million dollars on American lawyers if they can pay Indian 50K to do the same thing? If what you say is true, then I imagine the Indian companies are doing their best right now to train their people to be as accurate as Americans.

  16. Plus, Indians will sleep at their desks to get the shit done in a timely manner.

    Also, what about that computer program that can put everyone out of business?

  17. “What you don’t understand is that most of those students come from wealthy families, so they aren’t taking on a bunch of debt for the degree.”

    LOL, he actually said that? You shouldve recorded the conversation and linked it to youtube for some hilarity. Too bad the NYLS students/alumni with 250k in debt might not laugh.

  18. "I imagine the Indian companies are doing their best right now to train their people to be as accurate as Americans.

    Plus, Indians will sleep at their desks to get the shit done in a timely manner."

    My husband works for one of the largest educational publishers in the world. They have outsourced a large amount of their work to India. The quality of said work is absolutely horrendous, and years into the outsourcing "experiment" it has not improved. The best minds with the best training in India and China do their level best to get to the U.S., Canada and Europe or to become entrepreneurs. The people doing outsourcing work are of approximately the same level of competence and work ethic as Americans doing the same work here. The advantage they provide is being dirt cheap--period. The myth that they are superior in intellect, technical skill and work ethic is promoted by the corporations who utilize them in order to justify use of such labor; but anyone familiar with the relative quality of Chinese-made goods should be able to recognize this as nothing more than a myth. It surprises me how Americans continue to unthinkingly repeat it.

  19. Let's see a criminal defendant try this argument:

    Well what you don't understand is that she has slept with like 60 men before. And she was drunk. Therefore she consented. I almost forgot. She wasn't hurt.


    Look at Henderson's response. The part about NYLS trying to solve high costs is funny.

  21. Henderson, if you're reading this, why don't you get back to writing that law review article to make yourself look good before the tenure committee or Dean Search Committee. I hope you sleep well at night knowing that many of the people that walk through IU's halls are or will be financially bankrupt.

  22. "What you don’t understand is that most of those students come from wealthy families, so they aren’t taking on a bunch of debt for the degree.”

    Wow, wasn't that the defense that Bernie Madoff used? That he was just taking from a bunch of foolish rich people?

  23. Looking at the chronology of events, it appears that Henderson sold recent grads down the river. Upon further inspection, I’m not sure that he was ever on our side. It seems more plausible that he merely used the job market as a vehicle for getting published, interviewed, quoted, and invited to academic panels. (What else would explain the sudden change of position?) "Publish or perish." In a mere 7+ years as a "law professor," Henderson has racked up a lot of law review articles, garnering himself a niche as an “expert” on the changing legal job market.

    “Rick Matasar is the most innovative dean in the country. The fact that he cannot fix his cost structure overnight does not detract from the fact that he works day and night to solve this problem -- but it will take years to get it done. From far away (i.e., limiting one's information source to what shows up on the Internet), it is easy to criticize NYLS and other law schools, all of them high priced. But up close, NYLS is harder to criticize because it curriculum and employer alliances are designed to attract employers and get students over the bar exam. NYLS does enroll students from slightly more affluent backgrounds (on average) -- this is true for lots of big city school, but a minor point. The larger point is that the debt loads are too high. This is the problem that Matasar is trying to solve.”

    If Richard Matasar were interested in keeping costs affordable, he would NOT be charging his full-time students $46,460 in tuition and fees! Furthermore, New York Law School is independent, i.e. it is not attached to a larger college or university. As dean and president, don’t you think Matasar would have some influence with the board of trustees, in setting tuition rates?!

    On the bottom of page 17, from NYLS’s 2009 IRS Form 990, you can see that dean and president Richard Matasar made $495,122 in TOTAL COMPENSATION - for 2008. Yes, he has great concern for his students and graduates, right?!?! The facts do not square with your position, William. (Maybe, Mata$ar shouldn’t insist on making $495K per year, as an “educator.”)

    NYLS is located in the historically-oversaturated New York legal market. The students and grads must compete with their counterparts from the following law schools: Columbia, NYU, Cornell, and Fordham. Even Crooklyn and Cardozo are ranked MUCH higher than the festering toilet known as New York Law School. Seeing that students want Biglaw, you can expect extra competition from these schools as well: Yale, Harvard, Penn, Georgetown, Boston University, etc.


    As you can see, NYLS has a total, FULL-TIME enrollment of 1,492 students, according to USN&WR. What do you think that will do to the already-glutted NYC lawyer job market, William? Do you think that it MIGHT possibly have some negative consequences, for recent JDs?!?!

    $omehow, NYL$ reaches the following employment and starting salary figures:

    Supposedly, 92.3 percent of the NYLS Class of 2008 was employed, within nine months of graduation. The commode purports that 45.7% of its Class of 2008 was working in private practice. The (alleged) median starting salary figure was $160K. If you look a little harder, you will see this:

    “Approximately 25% of our 2008 graduates reported salary information.”

    Does that suit your definition of transparency, William?

    By the way, William, I have received PLENTY of emails from people expressing suicidal thoughts, over their station in life. Perhaps you can reserve some bluster over that. Then again, we wouldn’t want you to lose any sleep over that reality.

    I quoted you correctly. I have the facts on my side. You are on record saying that law schools have a responsibility to provide accurate employment figures to prospective students. Now, you are publishing nonsense that shows average lawyer pay is high, across the country. Of course, you left out solos and equity partners - as well as licensed attorneys who are working in non-legal positions. Your “study” did not even touch on the masses of unemployed and under-employed lawyers.

    You are now defending over-priced cess pools such as New York Law School. Do you think that you are entitled to the support and respect of recent JDs, simply because you wrote about the problem in the past? It is CLEAR which side of the fence you are on, William. Have fun with your “professor” and dean friends.

    In the end, the schools are out for themselves. You seem to believe that it is inappropriate to talk about this mess, in anything less than upper class, professorial language. Well, guess what? Regular people neither talk in nor respect such soft verbiage. Euphemistic language simply seeks to shade the truth and mask reality.

    The academy should be aware of the hostility, frustration and justified anger out there. The students and graduates are the ones being screwed over a coffee table. Did you expect them to smile and ask for more?!

  25. "April 11, 2011 7:52 AM

    william henderson said...

    This is Bill Henderson,

    I am sorry I have inflamed Nando and other students or recent graduates. I think my views have been mischaraterized above.

    There are very few academics willing to address the financial issues of legal education head-on. The characterization of my comments above will not encourage any other law professors to engage students. The approach taken by Nando is not constructive; this is not how problems get solved.

    Some responses:

    - Rick Matasar is the most innovative dean in the country. The fact that he cannot fix his cost structure overnight does not detract from the fact that he works day and night to solve this problem -- but it will take years to get it done. From far away (i.e., limiting one's information source to what shows up on the Internet), it is easy to criticize NYLS and other law schools, all of them high priced. But up close, NYLS is harder to criticize because it curriculum and employer alliances are designed to attract employers and get students over the bar exam. NYLS does enroll students from slightly more affluent backgrounds (on average) - this is true for lots of big city school, but a minor point. The larger point is that the debt loads are too high. This is the problem that Matasar is trying to solve.

    - The recent ABA story was based on Bureau of Labor Statistics data. It covered EMPLOYED lawyers, which includes those working in-house. The fact that employed lawyers make a decent living says nothing about unemployed or underemployed recentlaw school graduates. In fact, the story revealed that some small and middle markets without law schools tend to have higher incomes. It is a simple supply demand analysis. Again, my work is being mischaracterized.

    - Lawyer salaries are a separate problem than the cost of legal services. The average U.S. citizen does not care about legal jobs being outsourced - lots of sectors are subject to these brutal economic forces. I am extremely sympathetic to the blight of law students, but the solution is not to distort economic policy so the cost is borne by U.S. consumers. There is no principled basis for singling out lawyers. What about auto workers or textile workers or engineers? Addressing economic policy under the guise of
    "ethics" is not something lawyers should do-big firm, small firm, does not matter. This is not a lawyer regulation issue; it is a matter of economic policy."

  26. (cont.)

    "Tenure makes it easier to write and say unpopular things. If anyone things I like the current legal education structure, they are dead wrong. I do, however, focus on facts, not partisan positions. Focusing on facts can make me unpopular but it is what professors should be doing. That said, I do not feel it is necessary to apologize for the fact that I make my living as a law professor. If I resign, the debate would have fewer facts and more partisan positions.

    Again, readers, reflect on how problems get solved. I agree that law students as a group are suffering. But those problems will not get solved satisfactorily if law students and recent graduates take the position that their problem is the only one that matters, or has to be solved first. It is crucial to gather facts to better understand the position of others. It was by listening to students that I got involved in this debate. But the listening has to go all directions.

    I am disappointed by this turn of events"

  27. Race and Meritocracy:

    There is a reason I become cynical as a black guy about all the claims of meritocracy. Why? Because of people with money.

    I went to a top law school and undergrad. I remember meeting the wealthy for the first time as a black student.

    I had worked my butt off to get into the school. I had an A average in high school, etc.

    I remember being looked down upon by this Long Island guy from a family with money. He kept telling me that I got in due to affirmative action. I would not realize until a year later he got in with a C+ average. Learned a really vital lesson. There is no such thing as merit in this society. And, quite often, the one's must harping on it, are the least likely to have it.

    I would re-learn this in law school where people who admitted to having lower GPAs than me got the better gigs. I got a job, but it was definitely clear to me that it was not enough to do well to get the better jobs.

    This game is played out throughout our system despite what middle class white people think of as "racial advantage" due to affirmative action. the truth: money is all that matters in this society.

  28. Big Bill Henderson is fine with offshoring legal work, auto work, textile work, engineering work, any work. No shocking economic distortions such as secure jobs or living wages for our Bill. Think of the "consumers," says Bill--by which he means the corporations and big law firms that seek to "consume" labor in the cheapest and most efficient way.

    Wait, though, there is ONE and only ONE distortion of market efficiency that Big Bill will support for the purpose of overwhelming societal good: tenure for law professors such as himself. You see, tenure makes it easier for Big Bill to write and say unpopular things, such as his prose fellatio of Dean Rick Toilet Matasar. And where would we be, as a society, without Big Bill slobbering over, or rather under, Matasar?

  29. "I am extremely sympathetic to the blight of law students, but the solution is not to distort economic policy so the cost is borne by U.S. consumers."

    If you know fraud is going on, you report it. You don't profit from it. You challenge it. And if you don't, then you cannot have real sympathy for people who have been affected directly or indirectly by fraud. And most importantly, you know real change cannot come from within a broken system.

    Additionally, considering tuition would be between $5K and $10K a year without student loans, I would argue that economic policy is distorted by student loans going directly from the subsidy machine to a law or graduate school with no accountability on the lender or school. That subsidy is borne directly on the US consumer who is forced to pay higher prices not because of market forces but because in the current framework is one giant economic fiction courtesy of corporatism.

  30. I appreciate Mr. Henderson's efforts. Nando is, unfortunately, a nobody who could scream and yell all for a thousand years and no one would care. Mr. Henderson staked a valuable and esteemed reputation that he worked hard to develop for this cause.

  31. Sorry Nando but I think youve gone too far on this one. I recall something where you said or wrote that you have tried to get deans and profs to talk to you but nobody took you up on your offer. And then you had this opportunity and you behaved well and made decent points and came across as a decent kind of dude. But to come back here and fuck this guy in the ass after the debate has just shown every person and organization that you cant be trusted to talk about this stuff in a mature way. I find the toilet stuff funny and interesting as much as every one else does but this isnt funny or clever. Talk about his shit filled work all you want but when you start attacking people personally and calling him a pig and a shill behind his back instead of to his face when you had the chance is gay. I doubt youll post this comment but I just wanted to let you know. I think youve just screwed us all a little bit because now nobody in law schools will want to openly address the problems of debt we all face. Keep up exposing the toilets for the shit filled bowls of filth that they are but try to stay away from destroying individual people especially those who agreed to debate you. Its not as cool as you think. Sorry!

  32. Its me again who posted at 5:02 directly above. I just saw that Henderson responded personally to you. That shows that the guy has integrity and is the bigger man in this little battle. Im sure this will be deleted too but you come off as the doucheier person and he wont be burned twice by dealing directly with scam blogers. Way to burn bridges.

  33. Mr. Henderson is of course entitled to argue that legal document review jobs in the United States should not be protected, and therefore should be off shored like other previously skilled work.

    However, if he wishes to take this position, then he should advocate for closing some law schools in the United States, since we no longer need to train as many American lawyers.

    I would calculate the number of jobs being sent overseas and then eliminate several of the worst law schools in America, whose total graduating classes equaled this loss. The law school professors at these fourth teir toilets could then hit the bricks and look for new jobs.

    Mr. Henderson, if you wanta go Ayn Rand on us, why should the jobs of your peers receive any more protection then that of a J.D. Document reviewer.

  34. Document review jobs lead nowhere. Why do you guys go crazy for them?

    Learn how to practice law. You won't be able to break into sophisiticated litigation of the type practiced by big firms for a long time. But you can break into small law practice areas like divorce, criminal, real estate, etc.

    You actually can build a future here.
    Do you seriously think doc review will lead to a future?

  35. It does not lead to a future, it simply allows some JDs to cover their bills, in between applying for various other jobs and building a practice. However by helping people pay their law loans it provides a needed service.

    I'd be happy to trade all the document review jobs, however, if we could shut down some 4th tier law schools to balance out the employment market.

  36. i may disagree with nando's tone sometimes..but wow! - thy hypocrisy showcased by professor henderson when defending the NYLS deen is insane..

    They employment data for NYLS is about as misleading and or fraudulent as you get.

    20% of the class reported salary information.

    of that 20%, only 46% said they worked in private practice.

    Of that number, 50% worked in firms with greater than 10 attorneys. 30% reported greater than 100 attorneys and average salary greater than 100K So lets do the math.

    assume 500 students

    100 people reported salary !!(20%)
    46 worked in private practice (46%)
    23 worked in firms greater than 10 attorneys (50%)

    14! students worked at firms greater than 100 attorneys.

    there you have it - 14 students out of 500..aka 3%

    and this school as the audacity to present the information in such a way where it looks like the average is 160K? How can they supply this information with such a small sample? Either they are idiots and think it is representative of the whole class or they are shady as heck.

    Professor henderson implies that the NYLS dean has a tremendous challenge. I beg to differ..


    Its not hard.

  37. @ the poster above:

    "and this school as the audacity to present the information in such a way where it looks like the average is 160K?"

    no, only to an idiot who is deliberately misreading the information and interpreting it incorrectly. like you.

    The stats reported are clear. the school discloses that only 20% of its grads reported salary data and the school does not try to hide this. it does not mean that 80% of its grds are unemployed. and it does not mean than 80% of its grads are ashamed of thier low salaries. then the school goes on to report salary ranges and averages for job types. again this is only misleading if youre deliberately looking for it. what would you have NYLS do? personally go round to each grads house and demand this information? revoke their JDs if they dont give it? stalk them online?

    The data is being reported accurately and transparently. you are choosing to misinterpret it (surely youre not that stupid?) to try and make this school look utterly dishonest when in fact your wild misinterpretations and conclusions are the dishonest part.

  38. Nando is right: this Henderson dude is only interested in this topic as an academic tool.

    Nando: I thank you for your blog. You show stinky toilets, nasty feces, and use "vulgar" language that some people may find offensive, but at the end of the day what really matters is the spreading of the word that law school is a bad deal, and your blog has been widely successful at it. So go ahead and keep "burning bridges" by humiliating people like Henderson. They make a good living on the back of students and federal loans, and they can certainly take the heat.

    And one more thing. I believe the root of the problem are student loans. They juice the system and create a powerful incentive on higher education to simply fill up the classroom with little regard to any consequences. You should do a piece on that.

    Keep spreading the word! That is the best solution to this problem...

  39. Hey Judas,
    Keep in mind that, in most cases, the $119,437.00 worth of law school debt incurred by these "wealthy" NYLS students will be added onto pre-existing undergraduate student debt. So, all told, how far in the hole is the AVERAGE NYLS grad at graduation? $150k? $175k? Now think about the 25% of students who take on the most debt at NYLS. What do they owe? $200k+?!?!?!

  40. to 6:30

    posting salary data when 20% of the data reported is absolutely meaningless. It means nothing. Absolutely nothing.

    You give people too much credit - most people will read that data and incorrectly assume they have a great shot at landing a 160K gig.

  41. also - no shit. I understand that it does not mean that 80% percent of the class is unemployed.

    What I was referencing was the meaningless of the data due to the low response rates.

  42. Re: Bill Henderson

    I had over 10 years of legal experience by the time Mr. Henderson was cowering in some cubicle studying for the bar exam. I don't expect Mr. Henderson to have a grasp of the legal market regardless of his academic laurels, which do not impress me. Has Henderson tried a case? Has he closed on a project finance deal? Has he served on a law firm's management committee? No! It must be fun getting a paycheck by fucking with people's heads with pseudo-academic discussions about what is obvious (the shitty state of the legal profession).

    Henderson is an academic opportunist. He has taken the plight of the law students and posed as some sort of champion for them. At the same time he praises folks like Dick Matasar who I am sure works very hard to find innovative ways to screw over his flock of lemmings. NYLS a school for the wealthy? That statement is rich.

    Matasar and Henderson hide behind the ivory towers of academia but are no different than snake oil salesmen. Matasar increased the size of NYLS's incoming class to 750. This is a sign of pure unadulterated GREED. NYLS gets no respect in NYC and it is sad that most NYLS alums who are trying to break into the market elsewhere try to confuse would be employers that they graduated from NYU law's sister school. Many years ago, I overheard a kid at a bar tell a woman that NYLS was NYU Law's night program. I should have called him a liar but the gal who heard the story didn't seem too impressed by him to begin with.

    I am glad the college presidents, provosts and board of trustees are trying to convince the ABA to relax the rules on tenure. Maybe one day Henderson will get to experience what shitlaw is all about and then he could claim to have a basis to write about the subject.

    Finally, Dick Matasar is no saint. I doubt the man even has a soul. In fact, next time you see Dick, look into his empty eyes. There is nothing there but glaze.

  43. I have had the pleasure of meeting Bill Henderson. I graduated in the class of 2010. He was one of the first professors to publicly admit to the bimodal distributions. He attempted to gear his class towards the real world. How successful he was is an opinion which reasonable minds could differ.

    While he may not understand much of the legal practice, we should not fault him for trying. There are very few people, aside from recent law graduates, who truly understand what is going on. He would likely come around to understanding the financial plight of law graduates with time. Unfortunately, insulting him would delay the process.

    I feel as if many of you are right about his naivety of the plight of current law students. Most just do not get the financial ramifications of going to law school in the current economic climate. However, Professor Henderson is still trying to throw one life preserver to help the victims of the Titanic. While it is not helpful for many, his assistance may prove helpful as a sign that more work needs to be done. People may see his sign and be spurred to act. If not, well maybe one person without a desire or a plan to be a lawyer would be saved from the debt.

    As for the economic rationale, I too feel like any and all outsourcing is a problem. The buyers of labor have a choice; cheap or good. Somehow, that balance needs to change more towards good. I have no plan for this, as I have other work to do at the current time.

    We cannot afford to go after our allies. The market needs a correction and we all need to work together to help create that correction. That change could come through the private sector or public sector. Either way, we could use all the help we can get.

  44. *raises hand*

    In reply to 6:07, I know the answer to that one. If you would like a 100% response rate,have NYLS, make a payment to the student or their lender of $200. I bet you everyone would answer the questionaire.

  45. Wait, so Matasar is suddenly a good guy in this fight even though he is the dean of one of the most overpriced law schools in the country, made almost a half million in compensation while openly telling discussion panels that law schools are too expensive, all the while he has an alternative job as CEO of that criminal conflicted student loan syndicate known as ACCESS GROUP....can we get real here folks, I'm still shocked that this greedy tool of the law school admin world hasn't come under federal or state investigation the same way that Citibank did a few years back.

    I really had some respect for Henderson until I read his response about rich kids attending NYLS and the ABA article's assertion that attorneys are making more cash than ever.

    That being said, Nando is there any way that Henderson might have mispoke or misunderstood the situation? Is he redeemable? Is there a better way to call him out rather than saying he is a pig? You throw so many facts in here that really refute his position, I have to wonder if the name calling in this instance is productive and doesn't distract from your argument. I'd like to see if Henderson has any intelligent response to the numbers you have thrown out about NYLS stats, tuition, etc.

  46. @5:02/5:05

    Thanks for your little opinion. William Henderson has written, to some extent, on the shrinking legal job market for recent JDs. In fact, he is now considered the premier academic, with regards to this area. However, his recent actions and statements indicate that he was never on board with the students.

    He supported NYLS, and he was wrong about the debt figures. I didn’t have access to the Internet, so I guessed that the average law student debt at NYLS was $120K. When I mentioned the debt figure to him, he told me that the number seemed too high. We can see who was correct. After that conversation, I realized that he was not quite on top of things. I also understood that he wanted to defend his colleague.

    During the recent Westlaw panel, he defended the University of Baltimore taking $92 million in state tax funds for a new law school, while increasing tuition by 77% in the last 7 years. When I asked Phillip Closius, the dean at Baltimore, why the school is not using any of that money on scholarships, Henderson jumped in and said, “You don’t change things by being moral.” Apparently, Henderson thought this discussion was supposed to be collegial, where we merely scratch the surface in identifying the problem. By the way, the question was posed to the guy who actually works at the school. Last time I checked, Bloomington, IN was nowhere near Baltimore, MD.

    According to Henderson, you don’t change things by being: (a) moral; (b) attacking others’ positions; or (c) with reason or logic. He also used that third phrase, during the panel. So how the hell do we alter the system, William?! By having academic discussions on the subject, using your language, and letting the esteemed and upright “law professors” frame the debate?!

    By the way, it is very telling that Henderson lost his cool when I merely mentioned these concepts. He showed his true colors. Hell, Closius and Ackerman came away from that panel better off than Henderson. Closius at least stuck to his position that his school is (supposedly) producing many practicing lawyers, and providing them with consumer info on the first day. (Then again, how many students are going to walk away during orientation?) While Ackerman struck everyone as out of touch with reality, he did not do a 180 - as Henderson did.

    In sum, William Henderson burned bridges. He did so by abandoning recent graduates. Check out this garbage, for further proof.

    Look at the angry comments from readers. The recent-minted lawyers and JDs on that forum ripped his research to shreds. Then view William Henderson’s tepid responses to those remarks. On comment 38, Henderson states:

    “Re lawyers making a good living in Eastern KY (and other places), folks this is just supply and demand. When a region has very few lawyers, those employed lawyers make a good living.”

    What is that (spurious) statement based on? His academic understanding of supply and demand?

  47. Here is another response from Henderson, under comment 44:

    “The profession needs better longitudinal data. I am not sure young people will fully analyze it before enrolling in law school, but it is our obligation to collect it and put in an accessible format that encourages its use.”

    It is also your obligation not to publish such nonsense, under the guise of research, William. Keep in mind that you work for a public university, and that the school thrives on federally-backed student loans. Is it in the public’s interest to produce far too many lawyers?! Do you think people will be better served by a lawyer who owes $160K in student loans, while subsisting on a $40K salary?

    On Mar 8, 2011 5:35 PM CDT, “Heather” wrote, in comment 47:

    “The average attorney in Alabama is lucky to get a job and a starting salary of $45,000. To get above that salary, you better be a partner at a major firm or a highly successful solo and these people account for about 1% of Alabama’s attorneys. This is incredibly misleading data.”

    Look at the comments, on the ABA Journal article. The readers are fully aware that this is MISLEADING DATA. They also realize that averages are easily skewed by very high salaries - especially when the study does not include solos, small law practitioners, equity partners, unemployed licensed attorneys, and lawyers who make their living by selling insurance, stocking shelves or in hotel management. In sum, the data is garbage.

    Furthermore, it is nefarious because prospective law students will see this research and it will confirm their decision to attend law school. This is reckless and irresponsible, on Henderson’s part. The fact that he presents it as a study will ensure that the media reports on the “findings.”

    Henderson does not want to alter the law school model. He merely wants to talk about the shrinking job market. What the hell is that going to accomplish?! The only ones not aware of the dwindling job market are those ignorant Boomers who still believe that “higher education” will lead to greater prosperity.

    He wants a sterile “debate” on the issue, i.e. he wants to take the liveliness out of the conversation. Meanwhile, tons of recent graduates are racking up monstrous student debt levels - while facing anemic job prospects. Many are contemplating leaving the country. Others have considered suicide. (I’m sure some have thought about committing violence against others.) Henderson does not want such dark realities to enter the discussion.

    Maybe you still believe that this man has some integrity, 5:02. Through his own actions, Henderson has basically pissed away any credibility he had with recent attorneys and law grads. Applying logic, it seems clear that the guy was in the camp of the “professors” and administrators all along - which is really not a surprise.

  48. All that matters is that lives are being destroyed with debt.

    Maybe, in the final analysis, continuing to Warn young people about a lifetime of massive Debt is the only thing that is going to be effective.

    All the rest, the pride, name calling, vanity, good behavior, bad behavior, the timing of it, etc. etc. is just a distraction, and means nothing to a lifetime debtor.

    And it is obvious there is NO LEGAL REMEDY, and will not be one forthcoming for a long, long, time.

    In the meantime kids, as always:

    Unless you meet with certain criteria, DO NOT GO TO LAW SCHOOL

    Maybe we all look at it so often that we forget it is there, but here is what Nando has written at the top of the page:


    And as far as I go, what the Hell! Put my picture on a blog, and splatter it with dung or beat it with the heel of your shoe. I don't give a crap. Call me whatever you want.

    I'll help you: Better heads than mine come out of zippers. I'm a boner,dick, dorkwad, shithead. John D. Koch is a flippin loonie drunk rat bastard asshole. Curse my mustache or beard, or whatever it is they say in Iraq. So don't feel too badly Mr. Henderson.

    Kids: DEBT IS REAL, and 3 years of absolutely wasted time is real as well. 3 years when you could be learning something that will enable you to earn a living in this world.

    I see Plumbers that own homes and real estate. Civil Servants that have all of those things too and a pension.

    There are other things one can be besides a lawyer, and learning how to survive in the world is a process that takes years.

    If it proves that you have wasted those valuable years in a Law School-- years of your youth--you might never recover, and will end up in debt until your best years are truly gone and you are old.

    No Bankruptcy will be forthcoming for you either.

    And as the NY Hiring Partner warns, you can gnash your teeth all you want, but you will get no sympathy.

  49. And Henderson states -- "I am extremely sympathetic to the blight of law students, but the solution is not to distort economic policy so the cost is borne by U.S. consumers. There is no principled basis for singling out lawyers."

    I'm surprised no one caught on in any earlier comments, but did he mean "plight" or was it a Freudian slip? As in...

    Yes, bloggers I too feel the pain of dealing with this disease of too many law students. Some of the other fun definitions of "blight"

    : a disease or injury of plants marked by the formation of lesions, withering, and death of parts
    : something that frustrates plans or hopes
    : something that impairs or destroys
    : a deteriorated condition

    No I guess he chose exactly the right word in discussing the legal field and its current state.

  50. demosthenes of america, you are a poet. A brilliant one. Who like nando is unflinching and doesn't pull any punches.

    Remember, kids. No matter how tight you close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and go "lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala" reality is not going away. You may be...but the real world is not going anywhere.

  51. My post was deleted before, let's see if it stays up this time.

    Universities are like banks now; they voraciously seek to maximize profit wherever possible. I think (and hope) that law professors will be destroyed by this "free market" Soon, university administrators will realize they can pay 2k to an adjunct shitlawyer to teach a course, instead of 300k + benefits to a law professor who has never practiced a day in his life. And why not? they have already done the same to undergraduate professors.

    Look at Henderson, he graduated from law school, clerked for a year or two, and ran straight back into academia. Can you imagine if the medical profession was run like this? Doctors would be amputating with saws.

  52. Those fuckers are happy to bleat on about free markets and the need to sacrifice for pro-bono work. Yet when faced with cuts to their own 300k salaries, they get together and write a letter to the ABA suggesting that student scholarships be cut instead. So much for sacrifice.

    Everyone is in it for themselves. Law professors are no different. Henderson is no different. He feigns concern over law students so he will be recognized as a leader in reforming legal education. He will probably parlay this into a nice 400k+ job as a dean somewhere. Henderson also has no problem making six figures off the backs of loser law students. His high salary is one of the main reasons students are so broke.

  53. He's no better than Matasar, the "concerned" dean who makes half a million a year on the backs of brokeass law students, and charges $150,000 tuition for a dump on par with Touro. Matasar also sits on the board of directors for a loan shark which specializes in ruining the lives of students. Again, everyone is in it for themselves.

    sorry for the triple post, I think my prior post was deleted because it was too long.

  54. I agree with Painter (though I rarely do), that in the final analysis, people are getting screwed. That is the bottom line whether Mr. Henderson chooses to become an "expert" in attorney unemployment or not. Under the spending power, Congress has the ability to condition federal funds on states choosing a certain coure of action. I have discussed this issue on numerous occasions, but briefly Congress should condition federal student loan monies on schools NOT raising their tuitions by a certain percentage. While this will not necessarily impact students who have since graudated, i.e., fucked, but it will tend to reduce the insane tution hikes that have been pervasive for what seems like the past 20+ years. Since federal loans are the life-blood of the vast majority of schools, law-related or otherwise, if Congress mandated that schools must not raise their tuitions by more than 3% per year, else NONE of the school's students would receive federal monies, then this would go a long way toward resolving the problem. It might take 10 years before tution costs stabilize relative to inflation (or the economy overall), but at least we would be making progress toward a solution. When you have schools jacking up tuitions to construct more buildings and the hack professors are making $100,000+ per year to write law review articles with limited teaching dutires, this is a slap in teh face to the students. Mr. Henderson needs to ask himself whether he intends to be part of the solution or whether he will continue to ride the gravy train into extinction - for that is where the legal profession is headed in my opinion.

  55. On one hand, I don't want to single out Henderson when his studies are actually somewhat useful (well, some of them). What he's done is 10x mroe than the countless number of law school insiders who sit on their hands.

    On the other, this crap about it being okay to defraud people if they're wealthy (or the idea that the NYLS students who take out massive debt are already wealthy) is disgusting.

    And Richard Matasar working tirelessly to improve things?! Seriously?! He's trying to improve NYLS' coffers.

  56. Here you go...

  57. HELP! Someone just took a ten pound 'DEAN HOBBS' in the office toilet! The janitors are trying to formulate a plan to get it to flush down but it doesn't look promising.

  58. 10:50,

    My next entry will be on the trash pit known to the world as Seton Hall University School of Law. For those of you who don't know, Patrick Hobbs was "serving" as both dean of the sewer of law and as Seton Hall's Athletic Director.

    "The man who is dismantling and rebuilding Seton Hall sports is not a coach, an athletic director or a priest.

    Patrick Hobbs is the law school dean, and at most universities, the suggestion that a person in his role also oversees the basketball program would be laughed right off campus.

    Here, it makes perfect sense. Here, in an athletic department that seemed to be operating like a town in the old wild west, someone had to come in and play the role of the sheriff."

    As you can see, New Jersey Star-Ledger columnist/douche-bag Steve Politi couldn't stop drooling over Dean Hobbs taking over the school's athletics department. By the way, Seton Hall needed someone who knew what the hell they were doing, not an academic. Furthermore, you need to take a class in journalism, Steve Politi. Hagiographies do not count.

    What type of university hires its law school dean to run Athletics?!?! Shouldn't Hobbs be more concerned with charging FT law students $45K per year, filling them with useless legal doctrine, and pumping out more JDs into an already-glutted legal job market?

    As you can see, full-time law students at this commode will pay $45,048 in tuition - for the 2010-2011 school year. Who knows? Maybe William Henderson will argue that Hobbs is trying to improve “legal education,” as well.'s_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament#Final_Four

    Keep in mind that in 1989, Seton Hall's men’s basketball team made it to the NCAA championship game - where they lost by one point to Michigan.

    As of February 22, 2011, SHU hired a real AD – even though he came from Iona.

    “I am absolutely delighted that Pat is joining us at Seton Hall,” Hobbs said in a statement released by the school. “Pat has done a remarkable job at Iona. He’s a proven leader who has brought their programs and facilities up to the major conference level. Pat helped build a tradition of winning and integrity in New Rochelle and will bring that same passion to transform Seton Hall in years to come.”

  59. Seton Haul hired its dean to be the AD?

    BWAHAHAHAHAH! What a fucking joke! I wouldn't hire this guy to lick postage stamps.

  60. And Henderson states -- "I am extremely sympathetic to the plight of law students, but the solution is not to distort economic policy so the cost is borne by U.S. consumers. There is no principled basis for singling out lawyers."

    Okay, if we believe in protecting American consumers, and do not wish to "distort economic policy". I have a polite suggestion. For those who have not entered law school yet, no more federally subsidized educational loans.

    Cruel, maybe, but it will immediately reduce the number of students going to law school, and cause some of the worst law schools to collapse because they cannot obtain enough paying students.

    Given the pure glut of US lawyers, why should the taxpayer subsidize the creation of more lawyers? There goes your distortion of markets.

  61. To second what 12:39 said:

    BLAM! How do you like thems apples, bitch?

  62. re: issues raised @ 12:39, from a societal standpoint, why should the U.S. taxpayer provide federal monies for an area of study that is, without a doubt, saturated beyond repair? From a resource allocation standpoint, shouldn't the public be educating more physicians instead of lawyers? I haven't had health insurance for the past 7 years since I lost my BigLaw job so I can attest that there is a greater need for MDs as opposed to JDs. At some point, a line needs to be drawn between a student's "wants" within the free market and the "needs" of society, particularly when the public is essentially paying for it in the form of providing loans, which could be put to better use.

  63. NYTimes: Burden of College Loans on Graduates Grows

    My favorite quote is from an economics professor who says that student debt is good debt, like mortgages. Apparently, this apologist-cockroach for predatory student lenders has not heard of the real estate bubble and the sub-prime disaster. If you view the comments section a common theme emerges: higher education, like everything else in America, has become a scam. Here's a link to the comments:


  64. Hi Nando,

    why do some schools receive a courtesy flush while so many TTToilets need to be flushed for the first time?


  65. " Can you imagine if the medical profession was run like this? Doctors would be amputating with saws.

    April 12, 2011 9:49 AM "

    That is very true. The real problem ( in addition to the oversupply of JD's) is that law schools still don't comprehend the fact that in this modern model, where most grads will not be mentored/hired/trained by ANYONE, it is the law schools that will have to teach future solos how to practice. That's what is really happening. Grads are coming out with JD's, no job prospects, but also are understandably terrified to go it alone--as they don't know how. Make a mistake nowadays and people will sue your ass, plain and simple. In medicine, of course, you can't get LICENSED without internship, residency, etc. That is, knowing how to practice as a physician, not just how to "think" like one. Only idiot law "professors" talk that nonsensical garbage, droning on year after year about musty old cases of the past. Law will continue to be fucked up until they finally and explicitly abandon the old model, which assumed all grads would actually be trained by someone, and move more to a type of apprenticeship setup. Which, by the way, will likely never happen. Not while this kind of money continues to roll in from the suckers.

  66. At 1:29:

    Actually, practicing lawyer probably don't want law schools to teach students how to practice law.

    New grads can't compete with established solo/small firm lawyers because they don't know anything. Meanwhile, the established solo can pay the new grad $100 to "run" to court and dispose of a case that the solo got paid $2,000 on. He'll teach the new grad just the basics needed and hide the most important things. He doesn't even have to pay an associate salary with benefits.

    The biglaw version of this is non-carreer track document review.

    The "runners" for small/solo lawyers are like the day laborers who wait outside Home Depot to get pimped to a contractor. And the desperate new grads are begging for the opportunity to "run".

  67. For all you people saddled with debt: why don't you leave the US? Have you considered that? Is it feasible? Can you use your JD outside the US?

  68. I wrote about that recently:

    The comments are interesting.

  69. To C. Cryn Johannsen:

    So I guess, based on the comments, some people have already done so, and there are likely many more to come in the future. I think it would be interesting if someone would start a website to guide others. If one defaults on student loans, and one needs to renew a US passport, would the default affect the process? If one ever comes back, even as a tourist, would the US government have the right to question/arrest/harass this person?

  70. As far as I'm aware, TESL is only a one-year gig right? I understand you can get away from your loans for a year, but then you have to come back to the U.S. and face them again.

    What are some legit options for possibly permanently residing overseas?

  71. In war, there are casualties. When you're fighting the enemy you cannot surround yourself with half hearted allies. You need people with heart and a strong will. Henderson is expendable.

    He's written some things that helped the cause a little. Now he's shown where his loyalty lies. I'm glad nando threw this guy overboard.

  72. Nando, are you doing a redux on that festering toilet known as Seton Haul Law or are you going to profile the Valvoline Dean? I think you should do both as both are symbiotically tied to mediocrity.

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  74. @Anonymous 5:09 PM Yes, people have done it already, and I've read on several forums - because I used to live abroad - that many are avoiding the U.S. as a result of being in default. I'd love, more than anything, to collect the numbers/data of people who have left and defaulted. I know many who are doing quite well in other countries. But I also know of many who are fearful, and have to come back to the states for various reasons. (I deleted the previous comment because of typos. Forgive me if there are any in this follow up post!)

  75. the united states is a big steaming revolting ghastly pile of mother-fucking shitApril 12, 2011 at 10:25 PM

    What'd you expect. He come from the academy. Think he gives a shit about you, unemployed fuck? Oooh. He wrote some law review articles pointing out what anyone with an IQ above fucking 12 already knows. What a revolutionary.

    Gerbils have bigger nads. He's gotten a lot of coverage oiut of his research. The ABA crowns him a 'rebel'. Students think he's on their side. Yada yada yada. Yawn.

    The elite like doing this. They can brand someone a rebel. It's an old game, folks. Don't fall for this shit.

  76. Wow, this is the best site I’ve ever read. Thank you for sharing this.washer dryer repair

  77. 8:34,

    I agree regarding your comment on mediocrity at the Settton Hall Law Toilet. I respectfully suggest that dump also symbolizes ivory tower arrogance, condescension and lack of courtesy and respect to its paying customers/victims.

  78. this student loan no job issue is being discussed on the Dennis Prager show today. You can probably hear it on replay online later today.

    Nando, I would email him. I sent him the link to this site.

    I would not go to law school today even if I do somewhat enjoy it even after 20 years in shitlaw.


  79. Call out the plumber
    ‘Cause the country’s in the shitter
    We’ve got to get together and flush this turd
    Cause there’s a foul stench in the air.

    And you know that I’m right.
    And you know its quite a sight.
    The country is a piece of shit.
    It’s stinking up the air.

    Fuck the U.S.

  80. TTT2: Rise of the Lemmings

  81. Ron Coleman's article "Go Home" in the October 1995 issue of The Student Lawyer precisely described the current situation. Of course, it is not available online so the Dumbest Generation was (and is) oblivious to it.

  82. ^^Obviously no one from the Greediest Generation read it either...they just kept urging their kids to pursue education at any cost, take on as much debt as possible. Of course the Greediest Generation were leading by example during the mid-90s, buying up multiple SUVs per family, vacation homes, etc., dishing out homes to low income families like candy.


    Check out this interview between William Henderson and a LexisNexis ass clown/douche bag. The topic is the changing business model of the legal “profession.” These two also touched on how the culture of law school does not encourage teamwork.

    Really?! You mean that placing a bunch of type A personality social retards in a vacuum, telling them that they must ZEALOUSLY represent their clients' interests, and charging them a small fortune for the honor of learning pointless legal doctrine doesn't produce well-rounded people?

    On January 12, 2011, Indiana public TV station WTIU uploaded this video. Head to the 0:27 mark. Here is what Henderson said about the problem of law school “employment” figures:

    “I think that the solution to the best next step is just to publish all the data on employment for every single law school, and unpacking it. Not just employed versus unemployed. But ‘are you employed in something to where, uh uh, but for your legal degree you probably wouldn‘t be there?’ So basically getting at the value add.”

    Again, Henderson states the problem of published law school employment figures. He does so in a way that is unequivocal. However, he quickly turned around and posted study results, which purport to show high average lawyer salaries around the country.

    The major problem with his ABA Journal piece is that prospective law students will look at those results and it will solidify their decision to attend law school. This is especially the case considering that it came from a “reform-minded professor.” To lemmings, that will give the study extra “credibility.”

    This nonsense, combined with his defense of Richard Mata$ar at NYL$, showed me that this man is not interested in ACTUAL reform of this sick, depraved, corrupt system. He merely wants to write law review articles about the shrinking legal job market, the changing law firm business models, etc. By the way, who pays for his academic research? The law students are the ones underwriting these endeavors.

    In the end, substantive change is NOT going to come from academics. For instance, Henderson is doing pretty well for himself, as a “law professor.” He is not going to push for real change that would benefit students and graduates. As it stands, financially-illiterate young people will continue to take out huge sums of non-dischargeable debt for a law degree - under the false impression that they can land a decent job after graduation.

  84. "In the end, substantive change is NOT going to come from academics."

    Yes. And that is why Boxer's letter to the ABA was so encouraging and refreshing. We should all thank her and ask our respective representatives and senators to follow suit.

    I am not sure if political noise is the best solution, but it at least makes the issue more public so that more people become informed.

    Blogs like this one are another powerful tool. Keep them coming, Nando!

  85. Wake up and smell the coffee, kids. These beeyotches don't care about you. Everyone's out for themselves. I like what you're doing on this blog. But you should all realize that professors are never going to change things for the better. Why give up a good thing?

  86. Charleston School of law!

  87. I recommend a different approach. Put your case together beforehand, approach the person with a chance to get their side of an argument, then write your post based on both sides.

    Probably wouldn't change much of the substance, but would add to your credibility.

    Also, put nudie pics on your main page.

  88. Gregory StromeckiMay 28, 2011 at 10:12 AM

    How is it that Henderson's own ABA journal has been so heavily criticized?

    Great job, N at exposing this pig in disguise. I just hope none of the students he has screwed over try to do harm to him or his family.


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