Sunday, July 24, 2011

Profiles in Passing the Buck: ABA “President” and Mouthpiece Stephen Zack


Pig Boy’s Correspondence With Barbara Boxer

http://boxer.senate.gov/en/press/releases/033111b.cfm

On March 31, 2011, U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer demanded that the ABA provide accurate info to law school applicants.

http://www.abajournal.com/files/Boxer_cover_letter.pdf

On April 27th, ABA head Stephen Zack replied to Boxer’s request. It contains little of substance. Take a look at this platitude:

“No one could be more focused on the future of our next generation of lawyers than the ABA and the legal profession for whom we speak," Zack wrote. "An interest in pursuing justice should not leave someone with a life shadowed by overwhelming debt."

Of course, the puppet does nothing to lessen the debt burden of recent law grads. In the next paragraph, Zack adds:

“Much of the issue is about students making informed, smart choices, and the ABA distributes information that can help.”

Do you see how this tub of lard puts the onus entirely on the law student?! What a beacon of integrity and ethics, huh?!?!

http://boxer.senate.gov/en/press/releases/052011.cfm

On May 20, 2011, Boxer issued this follow-up letter to Stephen Zack and the ABA. Here is an excerpt, where the senator mentions the need for independent oversight of law school data:

“It is troubling that the recommendations do not address the need for independent oversight of the data law school deans submit to the ABA and publications like U.S. News and World Report. The Section’s recommendations would allow law schools to continue to submit unaudited data, despite the fact that a lack of oversight has been identified by many observers as a major problem.” [Emphasis mine]

Spineless Zack’s Interaction With Charles Grassley

On July 11, 2011, U.S. Senator Charles Grassley sent this five page letter - which includes 31 questions for the ABA - to Zack:

http://grassley.senate.gov/about/upload/2011-07-11-Grassley-to-ABA.pdf

“Given the questions being raised by the increase of the number of law schools, the increase in graduate debt, and the decrease in graduate job prospects, this raises concerns regarding the ABA’s internal controls. As the Ranking Member of the United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary, I have an interest in the health of the legal profession. To the extent that taxpayer dollars are used, I also have an interest in ensuring that the students who take out federally-backed loans are in a position to pay back their loans and that the default rates on these loans do not increase.” [Emphasis mine]

Here is a portion of the ABA’s July 20th tepid response to U.S. Senator Charles Grassley. Again, Stephen Zack repeats his earlier “stance”:

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/07/21/aba-to-senator-grassley-we-share-your-concerns-about-law-schools/

“In this response yesterday to Grassley, Zack said the ABA shares the senator’s concerns. “No one could be more focused on the future of our next generation of lawyers than the ABA,” Zack wrote.

But in this accompanying memo to Grassley, the ABA’s law-school accreditation section said it does not believe law schools offer scholarships as a “bait and switch.” If students lose scholarship funding, it is a result of their failure to maintain sufficiently high grades, the group said.”

That is a huge surprise, isn’t it?!?! Apparently, it is okay for "professional schools" to accept far too many students, for the available number of career openings. Furthermore, this empty suit does not care if schools continue to cook the books, in an attempt to attract more applicants.

Someone Grab Zack a Fresh Tampon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20MDvWzTQOc

Here is a video of Stephen "Pass the Buck" Zack:

"Well, we always need new lawyers. The question is, uh, "Do the people going to law school really understand, uh, what the future of the practice holds in store for them?" What are the real economics of the practice? Everybody watches, uh, LA Law and Boston Legal, and they see in the newspaper reports about these massive salaries paid by Wall Street firms. $160,000 starting salaries.

Well, the truth of the matter is that the mean salary of lawyers around the country is $62,000. And before there is a commitment to, uh, take loans that can be in excess of $100,000, uh, you have to understand what the real economics of the practice of law might be for you, as an individual. And we're asking law schools to better inform potential applicants as to what the real cost of legal education, uh, will be.

For example, you know, what their hourly, uh, credit cost is. And what the standard of living in their given areas would cost over a three year period. So they can evaluate for themselves whether it's worth it to them, and what their liability and risks are, uh, when they graduate."

Once again, you can see that this cockroach is more than happy to place all of the blame on law students. His mother must be very proud. (Yet, shills such as Kimber Russell believe that the ABA should reform the $y$tem.)

Conclusion: In the final analysis, Stephen Zack is a political hack and gutless tool. He serves the interests of American Biglaw. This man does not represent law students or small-time lawyers. Stephen, make sure to check with your bosses - before addressing the following issues: JD overproduction; skyrocketing law school tuition; and the shrinking legal job market.

62 comments:

  1. (from the hyperlink to Kimber's article)

    'If all else fails, consider participating in a summer study abroad program in a field of law that interests you. Not only do these programs afford you the opportunity to learn about foreign legal systems, but you will also develop relationships with students and professors from law schools around the world that can be valuable as you embark on your job search later on.'

    What a piece of fucking shit. Here's the gist of her article -

    Don't got a job? Worried about how you're gonna pay back your loans? Why bother? Just relax and go to the beach. Go overseas and spend more money on a study abroad program.

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  2. "An interest in pursuing justice should not leave someone with a life shadowed by overwhelming debt."

    Not just shadowed. Crushed is more like it.

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  3. The only way to solve the attorney glut problem is to GET RID OF THE ABA, and organization that is on the ropes right now. Two Senators and the media are after it. Therefore, I ask all of you to keep the pressure and recruit more politicians and journalists to fight the ABA. Write letters/email to your Senators and Representatives and ask them join the efforts of Senators Boxer and Grassley; and of course, also send Senators Boxer and Grassley a short "Thank you" note.
    All of these won't take you more than 15 minutes and could have deep, long-lasting implication for your career.

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  4. This org is more interested in pursuing 'social justice' in other parts of the world than they are in addressing JD overproduction in this nation.

    Maybe the ABA doesn't think it's a bad thing for so many lawyers to be out of work or unable to make a living. They'll change their tune if someone shoots up a law school during orientation or at a graduation ceremony. hopefully it won't come to that.

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  5. Kimber Russell is a real piece of shit. I'm not even a lawyer, law student or anyone having a vested interest in this industrial complex. i just read to keep afloat of the impending bubble collapses and i can still see that she is a real piece of shit, especially after reading her resume.

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  6. I think your readers want you to do a write up of your old nemesis Kimber. Go ahead. You know you want to.

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  7. hahaha well done.

    Nando, there was an NYT panel comprised of several cockroach law professors. When asked whether law school should be shortened from 3 years to 2, the swine said no. One of the shills described a law degree as "priceless" and well worth $200,000 in debt.

    You can find the link here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/07/21/the-case-against-law-school?hp

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  8. Last October, I participated in a practitioners' panel at my alma mater law school. After the panel's presentation, there was a Q&A session and one of the first year students asked whether I agreed with the Dean's conclusion that a JD is a priceless and versatile degree. I replied honestly and said "At today's tuition levels and the shrinking legal economy, a JD is no longer a sure bet and a careful cost-benefit analysis must be undertaken." Needless to say, the student looked at me as if I had horns coming out of my head and the Dean gave me a scornful look. I have not received an invitation to participate with any more law school events. I suppose it was the price of telling the truth.

    In the past 2 weeks, I have heard the law school administrators respond to harsh criticism (e.g., Matasar and the 8 panelists on the NYTimes debate this past week). Most tried to justify their existence in this money making enterprise by saying things such as "a law degree's payoff has to be looked at from a 40 year career perspective," "the pursuit of justice cannot be quantified," etc. It's almost as if these people aren't really trying hard anymore because lemmings will continue to enroll in law school. The economy is still in the shitter and kids are terrified of going into retail with their steroid injected Bachelors degree in humanities or political science. So they go all in and in enroll in law school hoping to hide for another 3 years. What kids fail to appreciate is how long and how difficult it is to pay back those loans, especially if you are making $40-60K to start. This is like paying a mortgage but you can't live under your JD degree, not even the 16" X 20" monstrousity of a paper that Cooley gives its grads during convocation.

    The ABA wants to protect the status quo. There is no incentive for schools to provide accurate numbers. I support stripping the ABA of its accrediting powers and about 150 schools need to be closed down post haste.

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  9. I am having a Big Zack attack.

    This overfed self-satisfied man-pig hybrid looks at his young colleagues whose lives have been ruined by the expense of acquiring an ABA-approved JD. And he dismisses them as fools who were hypnotized into law school by watching LA Law and Boston Legal on television, and now have to settle for $65,000/yr. rather than the $160,000 they planned on getting.

    In Zack world, it was those glitzy TV shows that caused the JD overproduction problem. Not the ever-expanding number of ABA-approved law schools and their lies about career prospects, or the signal contribution of the ABA "ethics" committee in ruling that legal work might just as well be done by third world slaves as by barred graduates of their own schools.

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  10. "Kimber Russell sold out"
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    Yes, she did. But don't get distracted by her; what happens to her is inconsequential in the great scheme of things.

    The real problem here is the ABA. It must lose its accreditation and regulatory powers for the situation to improve. The only way to do that is convince the Dept of Education to act accordingly, and our single best chance to accomplish this is to maintain and expand the political pressure.

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  11. This bloated soft pasty animal has gotten fat off of the debt of many 22 year olds. May his arteries clog with ever greater spee.d

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  12. Its.....it is not Zack's expression or general demeanor or countenance that frightens me so much.

    Nor is it his Pillsbury ready made toaster oven dough boy complexion, withits tinges of pink around the curves and the overstuffed pockets of flesh of which his face is constituted.

    No. No....I don't think it is that.

    But rather........it is his eyes.

    Yes, Zack's eyes. Oh! Those eyes!

    Those leaden-hued, depthless, molten metallic ingots, which are cruel and cold and inhuman, antagonistic and robotic, lazer sweeping instruments devoted to no other purpose save the destruction of the Human Soul.

    Yes, it is the eyes of Stephen Zack that frighten me the most.

    Those cyborg eyes.

    They frighten me!

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  13. Stephen Zack is a snake-eyed, soulless bastard. And he wonder of wonders makes it to the top of the shit-ass organization known as the American Bar Association.

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  14. i think the best, uh, solution in light of recent events is to, uh, sent this overstuffed pig to the, uh, guillotine.

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  15. The ABA is a dog of a 'professional' watchdog. The AMA doesn't throw up its hands and say, 'We can't prevent an extra 47 medical schools from getting accreditation. And by the way if you can't find a job in medicine, it's your fuckin' fault for not doing enough research into this profession.'

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  16. Ah...just call Stephen Zack another "Boss"
    or, at the very least, a Tiny Duffy (Another soft and pink fleshed Town Hall "Pig")

    As Wille Stark said:

    "Man is conceived in sin, and born in corruption, from the stink of the dide, to the stench of the shroud."

    But in the final analysis, can Stephen Zack, with his Fucked up moral compass, advocate in any other way?

    What the hell.

    Zack is an advocate of the moral neutrality of History. Period.

    n so many words: Shit all over everyone else until some kind of ultimate good emerges from the cow pie.

    I ain't buying it.

    Zack is a Willie Stark, and the Legal Profession will have to decide if it wants to love him or leave him, or love or leave the next lick spittle that will take his place...or the next scraping toadie that comes after that one.

    My debt says to leave him.

    Politics in the USA sucks.

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  17. Below is cut from those wacko radicals at the Bureau of Labor statistics. The link to the entire 2010-11 outlook for attorneys is below. Maybe its just me, but the BLS sounds like a polite version of a scamblogger at times.

    http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos053.htm#outlook

    However, growth in demand for lawyers will be constrained as businesses increasingly use large accounting firms and paralegals to perform some of the same functions that lawyers do. For example, accounting firms may provide employee-benefit counseling, process documents, or handle various other services previously performed by a law firm. Also, mediation and dispute resolution are increasingly being used as alternatives to litigation.

    The number of self-employed lawyers is expected to grow slowly, reflecting the difficulty of establishing a profitable new practice in the face of competition from larger, established law firms. Moreover, the growing complexity of the law, which encourages specialization, along with the cost of maintaining up-to-date legal research materials, favors larger firms.

    Job prospects. Competition for job openings should continue to be keen because of the large number of students graduating from law school each year. Graduates with superior academic records from highly regarded law schools will have the best job opportunities. As in the past, some graduates may have to accept positions outside of their field of interest or for which they feel overqualified. Some recent law school graduates who have been unable to find permanent positions are turning to the growing number of temporary staffing firms that place attorneys in short-term jobs. This service allows companies to hire lawyers on an “as-needed” basis and permits beginning lawyers to develop practical skills.

    Because of the keen competition for jobs, a law graduate’s geographic mobility and work experience are assuming greater importance. Willingness to relocate may be an advantage in getting a job, but to be licensed in another State, a lawyer may have to take an additional State bar examination. In addition, employers increasingly are seeking graduates who have advanced law degrees and experience in a specialty, such as tax, patent, or admiralty law.

    Job opportunities often are adversely affected by cyclical swings in the economy. During recessions, demand declines for some discretionary legal services, such as planning estates, drafting wills, and handling real estate transactions. Also, corporations are less likely to litigate cases when declining sales and profits restrict their budgets. Some corporations and law firms will not hire new attorneys until business improves, and these establishments may even cut staff to contain costs. Several factors, however, mitigate the overall impact of recessions on lawyers; during recessions, for example, individuals and corporations face other legal problems, such as bankruptcies, foreclosures, and divorces—all requiring legal action.

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  18. http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2009/360/723/2009-360723150-06645220-9O.pdf

    The American Bar Association, Tax ID Number 36-0723150 has 501(c)(6) status.

    Head to page 2, line 12, of the ABA’s 2009 Form 990. There you will see that this morally bankrupt organization raked in $154,153,056 in total revenue - for the 2008 tax year. (This is another solid illustration that “non-profit” is a political designation. Now, you understand how religiou$ organizations, museums, and schools can make such handsome profit margins.) Isn’t it great to see how profitable it can be to run a non-profit corporation?!?!

    At the bottom of this page, on lines 20-22, you will notice that this morally bankrupt organization had $225,323,212 in end of year assets - balanced by $137,132,403 in total liabilities. Don’t weep for these foul swine. After all, this means that the pigs had $88,190,809 in end of year NET ASSETS.

    Now scroll down to page 26 of this corrupt body’s tax document. You will see how handsomely these cockroaches are compensated for their “work.” For instance, then executive director Henry White made $600,671 in TOTAL COMPENSATION - for 2008. Yes, this old reptile made $493,767 in base compensation, $40,000 in bonus & incentive compensation, $46,695 in other compensation, $7,890 in deferred compensation, and $12,319 in nontaxable benefits.

    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/aba_executive_director_resigns/

    On November 19, 2009, ABA Journal noted that executive ass-hat Henry F. White Jr. resigned from his post.

    “ABA Executive Director Henry F. White Jr. has resigned after three years at the helm of the world’s largest voluntary professional membership organization. ABA General Counsel R. Thomas Howell Jr. has been named interim executive director.

    “I wish Hank White well in his future endeavors, and thank him for his service to the ABA over the past three years,” President Carolyn B. Lamm said in a statement. “I know that Tom Howell, who has served the association for many years both as a leading member and more recently as chief legal officer, will ensure that the association continues to serve its members and the public through a transition to new leadership.”

    http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/migrated/legaled/statistics/charts/stats_7.authcheckdam.pdf

    Yes, the ABA has been serving the public well, hasn’t it?!?! A friend once told me he wished that Carolyn Lamm would get stage IV ovarian cancer. I can see why a licensed attorney would feel that way about this vulgar pig.

    By the way, here is an image of the ABA’s Henry White:

    http://www.lawmarketing.com/content/HenryWhite135.jpg

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  19. http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos053.htm#outlook

    Above is a link to the Bureau of Labor Statistics 2010-11 outlook for lawyers. A lot of what those dangerous radicals at the BLS say sounds suspiciously like what the scambloggers say.

    Basically, the BLS says exactly what should be on every law school's website about employment opportunities. Maybe my critical thinking skills and close reading skills have waned in the years since I left law school, but the BLS' outlook doesn't seem to support 90+% job placement or plentiful salaries for anyone outside of the top echelon of law schools.

    If law schools are so much into being honest and suggesting that the students themselves bear responsibility for learning about the value of a law degree, maybe every law school website needs this report to be displayed prominently somewhere in the prospective students section.

    Naaaah, what am I thinking. Pretty sure schools will continue to advertise their certificate programs and award winning faculties and state of the art facilities and their geographic locations just blocks from the state capital. And of course the 95% placement rate and average starting salary of 95k. God forbid some objective facts get in the way of the law schools' stories. People might start to realize that law school is a scam and some of these schools with their certificate programs and state of the art facilities and all that just might close down. And what a shame that would be because ...

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  20. The jig is up and the professors and ABA know it. This has reached the level where even laypeople are starting to understand that law school is a horrible gamble. Good work getting the word out.

    I used to be grossed out by the photos on this website. But now I can see the purpose behind those photos. They've attracted the New York Times and other major news outlets.

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  21. I see that one of Kimber Russel's titles is "Social Media Manager" for Kaplan Bar Review.

    Does that title have "shill" written all over it?

    Like Anon 6:56, I have no vested interest in the legal industry: I am not a lawyer, have never attended law school and have never been associated with any organization connected to the industry. However, like Anon, I also realize the importance of watching the economy's bubbles expand and burst. They are pretty much what has kept the economy going, and kept the US a superpower, since World War II. And they have always been fueled by greed.

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  22. Make sure to skewer Kimber for selling out. Seriously disembowel this bitch and display her entrails for all to see. Any person that publicly calls for more kids to go to law school deserves to get fucked up.

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  23. I will be honest here. I am used to the pictures of fecal matter and toilets but nothing prepared me for the face of unmitigated evil incarnate of the man featured in this article. His porcine facade will haunt me in my nightmares. Thanks alot Nando.

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  24. Zack looks like a Mafia don in that picture. Down to his troglodite bouffant. Look at his sausage-like fingers, double chin and the dead expression in his eyes.

    In the video clip nando used, you can tell Zack doesn't really believe the shit that's coming out of his mouth. Kind of like listening to a highly educated person express his 'firm' belief in Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses or Scientology. They'll pepper their remarks with code words and large words. This is meant to confuse and impress the viewer. However their demeanor will usually give them away. This doesn't really apply to the sociopaths. Anyway you;ll notice a shifting of the eyes, a flat delivery or monotone, squirming in their seat. The apologist will look for the right thing to say and will try to remember things he said earlier. It is much easier to tell the truth.

    It was painful to watch this asshole grasp for words. In that short clip, look at the number of uh's and um's. The author transcribes the yt interview with Zack. Read it. Does this sound like an educated man telling the truth or some jackoff trying to pull the wool over people's eyes.

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  25. It really is awful. This guy is a total douchebag- Kimber Russel as well. Like organized "faiths" that use sacrosanct mythology (they consider to be beyond reproach) to spread regressive propaganda; these sociopaths are hiding behind the virtue of knowledge and students' desire for meaningful lives and capitalizing on it. They are greedy and disgusting, and have no concern for the social consequences. They know it, too.

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  26. A few years ago, I purchased a Michael Meyers "Boogeyman" mask for Halloween. I believe a Zack mask would look more terrifying than a Boogeyman or Jason hockey mask. This man just represents a new genre of terror. With that ridiculous looking "academic" regalia, he looks like Jimmy Swaggart preaching to an impressionable flock i.e., 3L lemmings about to receive a worthless piece of paper.

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  27. Stephen Zack, the antichrist, walks among us... the end is near.

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  28. You wasted space on this valuable blog to cover this fat bastard?

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  29. There is no way that the ABA is going to decertify any lawschools. They've bought into the anti-trust argument.

    The solution is for Congress to actually evaluate how much money should be spent for certain types of educational loans rather than simply cutting pell grants, and federally subsidized student loans across the board.

    There are two ways to do this. The first is to stop making federally subidized student loans to ALL people who will enroll in law school in the future. That's probably not going to happen.

    A more realistic solution would be to establish a limit to the number of people who could receive these loans each year, say 15 to 20,000 people. There would be a one time, fee paid by the applicants to run this ratings bureacracy.

    As much as I hate LSATs and Grades there would have to be some sort of formula, which would also take into account the competitiveness of the undergrad school, and the major. For example, A 3.2 in Chemistry from Northwestern, receives a higher rating then a 3.4 in Education from Rollins University.

    Or if people wished to get private loans at much higher interest rates they could do so. My guess is within four years, at least 50 law schools would go under.

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  30. ^You are right.
    This whole problem has been created by student loans. Schools have too much of an incentive to enroll any donkey to "study" whatever.
    I guess the ABA is there to prevent such a thing from happening, but they seem to be part of the scam.
    As much as I hate to admit it, government-sponsored student loans have to go away. They have become a wealth transfer instrument from young, naive kids to old, greedy pigs/academicians.

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  31. I think the best quote from the video is "we're asking law schools to better inform potential applicants as to what the real cost of legal education, uh, will be." Way to make a big stand and ask law schools to do something.

    There is the slight problem that comes with asking someone to do something. The party being asked can always say "No." The law schools need something more than a polite request to change their ways.

    The previous posters who suggest that the student loan system needs to be overhauled have a very good idea. It is the loans that make overpriced law school seem like a reasonable option to almost anyone with a pulse and a bachelor's degree. Turn off the loan faucet and the enrollment figures will drop. Some of the third and fourth tier waste piles will go away.

    And here's a simple question - Who will really miss the piece of crap law schools if they go away? I can't imagine that there are hoards of potential employers silently pining for more resumes from Cooley and John Marshall and Florida Coastal graduates. All that will happen is that several hundred law faculty and administrators will have to go get real jobs. And a lot of potential students who would have never practiced anyway and who probably have no business being in law school anyway won't go to law school and won't end up drowining in debt.

    Which leads me to another question - what is the actual value of bottom tier law schools? What do they add to society? Besides the canards about helping underrepresented groups and making legal education available to everyone, what is it that makes it worthwhile to society as a whole to have law schools that charge 30k a year and admit students with sub 3.0 GPAs and sub 150 LSAT scores?

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  32. http://www.lawmarketing.com/content/HenryWhite135.jpg

    Oh my fucking god. This asshole is making half a million dollars a year by raping fucking 22 year old kids who don't any better?

    Jesus fucking Christ this country is going to die.

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  33. "And we're asking law schools to better inform potential applicants as to what the real cost of legal education, uh, will be."

    Way to take a stand there, Stephen. But what if you ask the law schools to better inform potential applicants about what a bad idea law school is and the law schools say "No."

    The previous posters who said that there needs to be a major overhaul in how student loans are given out are exactly right. As it stands now, anyone with a bachelor's degree and a pulse can get into some kind of law school somewhere. It is the loans that make it so profitable to have law schools that will take essentially anyone in as a student. Take away the student loans, and a good chunk of the 3rd and 4th tiers will go away.

    And really, who will miss some of these law sewers if they go away? Are there silent masses of employers out there waiting to hire the next batch of grads from Cooley and Florida Coastal? I kind of doubt it. The only people who will really miss the worst law schools will be the faculty and administrators who will have to get real jobs somewhere. Jobs that don't involve lectures about what International Shoe and Palsgraf really mean.

    Which leads me to another question - what does society as a whole gain by having law schools that accept students with sub 3.0 GPAs and sub 150 LSAT scores? I know all the BS about making legal education available to underrepresented groups, but in all seriousness, what in society is made better by having law schools that charge people 30k or so a year just to turn out graduates who have little or no hope of ever using their law degrees as anything more than recherche wall decorations? If someone has a meaningful answer to this question, I would love to hear it.

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  34. Zack looks like Rodney Dangerfield after eating a few people.

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  35. Nando,

    I got that you're trying to scare the shit out of people - that's why there's all the shit pictures and stuff like that on this site. But Zack? What the hell are you trying to do? Kill us? I'll have to see a counselor over this one.

    Jesus Christ, Nando, even scambloggers need to have some standards.

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  36. Zack looks pretty scary in this photo. Like a fat mafia don after putting away a 32 oz steak and five pounds of pasta.

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  37. If the US defaults, government-sponsored student loans will cease to exist, and the entire higher education house of cards will fall apart.

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  38. While Kimber has her faults, in the grand scheme of things she's trying to solve the same problem via a different route. She's on our side in other words. There are plenty of legitimate targets out there without eating our own.

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  39. @ Knut, Why not go overseas for a semester or more. We are now on the downhill slope of the student loan catastrophe. It is only a matter of time before the numbers collapse on themselves. Why not enjoy yourself before the collapse, cause there is no way they are paying the money back and they may actualy find a place to run.

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  40. I noticed at Stephen Zack was wearing the regalia of American University. So I went though this blog's archives. Sure enough, American University Washington School of Law was mentioned as the 48th best law school in the nation. Or as Nando put it, a "Grotesquely-Overpriced Pile of Garbage."

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  41. It doesn't like links. Oh well, go to

    http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/2011/03/first-tier-waste-product-american.html

    Read about the school Stephen Zack chooses to cloth himself within.

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  42. There is an important lesson in what Stephen Zack has to say. He is the ABA president. Which makes him something like the shill of all shills, or the man in command of the law school scam. The polar opposite of a scamblogger.

    Buried in his flaccid language and his uhs and ohs, he more or less says that prospective students should go into law school with eyes open and realize that the law degree is far from a guarantee of riches. He also says that prospective students should do the math before taking out a lifetime supply of student loan debt.

    Just to point out the most important fact again, this man is the president of the fucking ABA. If the president of the ABA is saying (in between uhs and ohs and ahs) that going to law school is a risk that should be taken carefully, what this means in laymans terms is that you have to be out of your mind to go to law school. This would be something like the CEO of a major financial firm in 2007 saying that maybe mortgage backed securities aren't the best investment.

    To the lemmings and 0Ls out there: The president of the ABA is telling you that law school is a calculated risk that you should take with caution. Not Nando. Not a scamblogger. Not one of the poor saps who just didn't do enough networking in law school. The ABA president. The shill in chief.

    If you are accepted into law school and are going to orientation next month and aren't sure about your law school decision, just remember that the ABA president says you should make your decision to attend carefully. Its not too late to withdraw from law school. In a few years you will probably be glad you did.

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  43. Here is the text of ABA “Ethics” Opinion 08-451, which was issued on August 5, 2008:

    http://www.aapipara.org/File/Main%20Page/ABA%20Outsourcing%20Opinion.pdf

    "A lawyer may outsource legal or nonlegal support services provided the lawyer remains ultimately responsible for rendering competent legal services to the client under Model Rule 1.1. In complying with her Rule 1.1 obligations, a lawyer who engages lawyers or nonlawyers to provide outsourced legal or nonlegal services is required to comply with Rules5.1 and 5.3. She should make reasonable efforts to ensure that the conduct of the lawyers or nonlawyers to whom tasks are outsourced is compatible with her own professional obligations as a lawyer with “direct supervisory authority” over them."

    You can see that this organization does not give one damn about recent, debt-soaked lawyers and law students. The decision was issued for the benefit of Biglaw. Do you think your average toiletlawyer is going to hire foreign lawyers AND nonlawyers to engage in legal discovery?!?!

    How does this impact the job market for recent grads, you ask? First, this corrupt decision provides the ABA seal of approval on offshoring of legal jobs. This CLEARLY shows that the “professional body” will not support its low-wage practitioners, which impacts recent grads and future graduates. Second, it helps lower the overall wage scale for new lawyers – as well as for the entire industry.

    The tax form I cited to above shows that ABA board members are rewarded handsomely for their work. They sure as hell are not supporting the average working lawyer. They are busy bending over so that Biglaw and corporate criminals can hire foreign lawyers and non-attorneys. Corporate clients do not want to pay large sums to hire first year associates.

    http://www.courtroomstrategy.com/2011/01/ny-times-reports-grim-reality-many-law-grads-jobless/

    “The economy has caused all businesses to shrink and even the large white-shoe firms of Wall Street and Park Avenue have taken a hit. The Times reports that these large firms have eliminated over 15,000 legal positions in the past three years. Many of these legal factories are telling their recent hires that they are hiring them for 2012 and to find something else to do for 2011. Some are cutting their hiring classes down by 20%. Yet Big Law jobs are really the only ones that pay enough to allow a student to pay off his debt and live in New York. Of course, law schools don’t do enough to tell those kids how miserable life is in Big Law and how you have another 10 years now to become a partner.”

    The ABA can claim that the recession caused Biglaw to scale back hiring on new associates. However, this political decision played a role in that situation. Ass-clowns and apologists such as William Henderson of Indiana University don’t think that the ABA should use “protectionist measures.” Then again, do you think this fat porker would be content if the ABA decided to no longer PROTECT full-time “law professors”?!?! He would have a stroke. I submit to you that Henderson the Pig would be among the first “professors” to voice his outrage, if this occurred.

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  44. I just finished reading some Scott Bullock posts on TLS. This guy had me rolling on the floor spitting my cereal. I am glad he is back but he should start up Big Debt, Small Law. This guy has a very skin crawling way of describing the fortunate fate of those few who do find jobs in the legal "profession." Scott, if you are reading, I am all too familiar with the urine stench on Beaver Street. Scott, I have an idea. Why don't you rent the BIG RAT and place it outside Seton Hall on the first day of class next month. If you set up a paypal account, I will even donate to the rental of the BIG RAT. You can name it "PAT" the RAT. Here is a picture of the RAT:

    http://www.baristanet.com/Maplewood%20Rat.jpg

    Nando, if you talk to Scott, please pass this post along to him.

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  45. This guy doesn't give a shit about students. Or recent JDs. Just look at the fat frog trying to fit into that ridiculous graduation garb. He is the top defender of the scam. His org approves the law schools.

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  46. Until the small firms and solos organize, we will not be able to get rid of the ABA. It has done far more harm than good, lets get rid of this and replace with the accrediting authority that is independent of the ABA and not entrenched with Big Law

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  47. ^Yes, let's... wait, how do we do that?

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  48. The ABA is Satan incarnate. They represent biglaw which does mergers and acquisitions, which helps these large multinational companies shed more jobs. This puts more people out of a job, and they go on unemployment or take a job where they make half of their previous salary.

    Yeah, these blogs shit all over PI and criminal defense ambulance chasers. I'll tell ya what. These small lawyers may be shysters, but they are a hell of a lot better than the cocksucking pieces of shit who do biglaw.

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  49. It made me sad when I read Kimber Russel's article on Kaplan's shill blog. She is aware that any hope of recovery from not succeeding at OCI is a lie, she knows that a foreign study abroad program for lawyers is damn near worthless, and she realizes that most 2L's should have dropped at the end of their 1L year, or even at the end of their very first semester. She would have said all of that stuff on her personal blog.
    I don't wish to hate though, a person has to make money some kind of way, but it still makes me sad.

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  50. The girl is a pig. What else can you say?

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  51. Here is an excerpt of Zack’s commencement address at American University Commode of Law, for 2011.

    http://www.wcl.american.edu/news/commencementstory2011.cfm

    "Stephen N. Zack, the first Hispanic and Cuban-American president of the American Bar Association, delivered the commencement address to graduates of American University Washington College of Law on Sunday, May 22, at 1 p.m. The commencement ceremony was held at American University's Bender Arena, 4400 Massachusetts Ave., NW.

    "You have spent your life reading millions of words," Zack said. "Today, I only want to talk to you about four words. These are the four words you will see when you walk through the giant columns of the United States Supreme Court: equal justice under law. That is a promise that we make to all Americans."

    Isn't it nice that the figurehead/chief pig of the ABA can go out of his way to don a ridiculous academic robe - and talk to many unemployed and under-employed JDs?!?! This organization has helped offshore doc review jobs, and to undercut the wages of recent lawyers – and this fat jackal has the nerve to show up and tell graduates of American University Commode of Law about “equal justice under law”!!

    By the way, I laughed when I read that this toilet commencement ceremony took place in Bender Arena. After pissing away tons of money on a law degree from borderline first tier commode, these poor souls will feel the need to go on a serious bender.

    http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/2011/03/first-tier-waste-product-american.html

    Take a look at this TTR entry on this first tier sewage pit. I posted this back on March 6, 2011. Since that time, average student indebtedness has increased for American Univer$ity JDs.

    http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/grad-debt-rankings

    Average Law Student Indebtedness: US “News” lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the Marquette JD Class of 2010 who incurred debt for law school - as $136,121. Fully 84 percent of this private toilet’s 2010 graduating class took on such debt. This figure does not include debt from undergrad.

    For the Class of 2009, these figures stood at 128,258 and 84%, respectively. Stephen Zack will be happy to know that American University JDs still have the fourth-highest average law student debt-load. We wouldn’t want this fat porker to lose any sleep, would we?!?!

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  52. More like: "Equal injustice under the ABA"

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  53. Equal chance to get fucked by the ABA is more like it

    Plus how many of those Shit U grads are gonna practice in front of the fucking US supreme court anyway?

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  54. Are you sure Esteban Hack is Cuban-American? Why isn't he wearing the traditional Cuban uniform of a wife beater Tee, a worn faux leather belt and "changletas" while sitting on a milk crate on Calle 8, playing dominoes while downing some cuba libres?

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  55. New York Times Law School Economics Article: Elie Mystal

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHCMxK3H6Sg&feature=player_embedded

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  56. It amazes me how these schools ruin peoples' lives. I attended one of these dumps for a year and I won't say its name (DePaul), which by the way charges nearly forty thousand dollars a year in tuition alone. Harvard charges a few thousand dollars more.

    They accept way too many students and give out bullshit merit scholarships to get people to come to their school and make the idea of living in an expensive city like Chicago look more manageable. While they rack up on federally backed loans, students struggle to make ends meet to pay back these non-dischargeable loans.

    How ironic that this dump is located not too far from the ABA Headquarters. The school, which literally consists of a few floors in a donated office building in downtown Chicago, does not even provide their students with academic advisors. They instead provide a 'thorough' academic support program, which is literally ran by two people for a student body of about 1,000 students. This is not even the sad part, the sad part is that they get away with this because the 'focused' ABA only requires them to have some sort of academic support.

    I guess providing students with advisors would cut back on those already overpaid faculty receiving their bonuses. The ABA President is a scumbucket like the rest of them. I expect nothing more from him. Thank God the poor economy is shedding a light on these lowlives and their racket. They figure because a law degree is in high demand they can do whatever they want. Pure trash.

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  57. Bullock's posts are nothing short of fabulous. There needs to now be some sort of awards banquet or such for such vivid and hilarious postology.

    Viva Bullock!

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  58. He looks jolly and nice, can't you all be too? Why must you bring his looks into the mix? He's not scary. He's just a man doing his job, and doing it well. Sheesh.

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  59. I think it's a weird get-up. Like he's the "Grand Poobah" or something. It fits, though, for something as nasty and unlikeable as the legal "profession", which itself is a corrupt, prestige-whoring club in rapid decline.

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  60. "the real cost of legal education, uh, will be"

    Your soul.

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