Thursday, September 15, 2011

Open Letter to the JD Class of 2014: Look What You Can Do With a Law Degree!

What the Law Schools State - in the Beginning

During orientation, academic blowhards and ”law professors” invariably defecated the following verbal waste product: “One can do anything with a law degree. Even if you don’t practice law, you can use your education in business, academia or government.” And of course, you were fed this line: “You should think of yourselves as lawyers, from this day forward. You are now getting ready to enter the noble profession.” (It’s so “honorable“ and “noble” that your “professors” decided to run to the safe confines of academia, after practicing law for 1-3 years, right?!?!)


“Perhaps there's no more illustrative story of the new lay of the legal land than one reported by As part of an ongoing series on America's economic malaise, the news site has solicited participation from readers about in challenging experiences in trying to make ends meet. One woman who recently wrote in was named "Carla." Carla is a lawyer, with nearly a decade of legal experience under belt. But Carla no longer wishes to give her contact information and real name to her newest clients.

Having yet to even pay off all her law school debt, Carla was laid off in 2009.

"Did I ever think I'd be taking my top off for rent money?
No. I was in my mid-30s and had never danced before," Carla told, who asked the website to use her stage name and withhold her identity. "As a little girl, I never thought to myself, 'I just want to grow up and be a stripper,' or, 'All I ever wanted to do in life is climb in the lap of sweaty stranger and take my top off.'"
[Emphasis mine]

With ever-skyrocketing tuition, you too can take off your clothes, and dance on tables. Make sure to stay in shape, so that you can walk around in 5" heels. This first appeared online, on September 13, 2011.

“But for 27-year-old Mike Kremen, a law degree landed him a job as an assistant manager at Radio Shack.

Kremen graduated from Pace Law School about two years ago – right when the recession was picking up and the legal industry started to hemorrhage jobs. He’s still waiting for his first full-time legal job offer. He says he might be the only employee in the history of this White Plains Radio Shack who’s passed both the New York and Connecticut bar exams.”

See how well law school paid off for this guy?!?! He was licensed in New York and Connecticut, and ended up making $7.65 at Radio Shack!! This piece was published, on April 8, 2010.

This feature was posted on August 31, 2010. This 26-year-old lawyer served coffee, after graduating from law school. Shannon Hodder graduated from Georgia State University – in the top half of her class. At the time of this video, she owed $60K in student loans, and had sent out more than one hundred resumes – resulting in one interview and no callbacks. As a licensed attorney, she also took part-time jobs and unpaid internships. She lived with her fiancé at her grandmother’s house. She was also making $12 an hour as a law clerk at 15 hours a week.

Employment Statistics and Playing the Game

Law schools are permitted to count those working at Kmart or Lowe’s as “employed.” However, one does not need a law degree, to work in retail. According to NALP, the JD Class of 2010 had 44,258 members. However, only 28,167 jobs required bar passage. (Not all of these were traditional attorney positions.) This means that only 63.64 percent of this class ended up finding employment in which a law license was required. Furthermore, only 25,654 of these positions are full-time.

“As Duke Law News reported, Duke worked hard to ensure its graduates had jobs. While it didn’t go the SMU route of paying employers to “test drive” its graduates, it does now provide stipends to some of its unemployed graduates to allow them to work for a couple months at no cost to employers. Using SMU’s car metaphor, the law school pays for the gas while Dukies and prospective employers take a little spin. Duke calls it “The Bridge to Practice” program.

It started in 2008 — employing the nine graduates who would have otherwise ruined that nice round 100%. The numbers of participants have increased since then, as the economy has worsened.”
[Emphasis mine]

The eleventh-ranked law school in the land is resorting to these measures. How will you fare, if you are at a third tier commode or fourth tier pile of trash?!?! This article was published on June 10, 2010.

Conclusion: Law schools continue to pump out FAR TOO MANY graduates - for the available number of attorney and law-related openings. Keep in mind that student loan debt, in this country, is NON-DISCHARGEABLE. ABA-approved schools manipulate their employment data, for the purpose of attracting more applicants and students. The pigs then claim that a law degree is highly versatile; this is an absolute lie.

As you can see from the sources above, this job market is GROSSLY OVERSATURATED. This situation has been exacerbated by advances in software and technology. In the end, lawyers are “information workers.” Such jobs are easily outsourced. Furthermore, ABA “Ethics” Opinion 08-451 allows U.S. law firms to hire foreign lawyers and non-attorneys, for American legal discovery. In the final analysis, the ABA and the law schools DO NOT GIVE ONE DAMN about you or your future. Once, you are out of school, you are no longer their problem. If you cannot find a legal job, these cockroaches will then chirp, “Well, YOU didn’t try hard enough. We provided you with an education, and never promised you a job.”


  1. There is a critical window of time within which to land a job and get established and hopefully manage the student loan debt.

    If that doesn't happen, you will start the slide downwards, and in effect be shut out of the job market: overqualified, an enigma or anomaly, a flight risk, an oddball with a JD wandering around.

    But you gotta eat and pay your basic bills, so pretty soon any kind of a job looks pretty good.

    Stripping pays well from what I hear.

    But it is a rough business, and a far cry from being a lawyer.

  2. Nice pic, for once. Nice legs and ass.

    When law skools keep producing ~44,000 graduates each year, what do you expect? This is sickening. Has Campos even mentioned the lawyer turned stripper yet? I doubt it. What about the professors on Volokh. I guess they don't want to taint their professorial blogs with such stark realities.

  3. that article was some good PR for the law school scam movement.

  4. She can remove her thong with the pointy heel of her shoes. Can you do that?

    If not and you're not exacty sure why you're in law school get!

  5. SetTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTon hall law is in the top two law schools of New Jersey! Go SEtttttttttttttttttttttttton

  6. Nando and numerous other blogs, newspapers, and magazines have written on the miserable legal job market. Jobs newbies used to do are being sent to India, Ireland, SA, or

    Let me make it simple for you: 1)THERE IS NO MONEY IN THE LAW. You will make 40K year and feel lucky. 2)The Lawyers on TV are rich and sexy and a total fiction. Struggling Solos making 30K a year and living in their parents basement just aren't sexy. 3)The Bartender/carpenter/waiter/clerk/TTT grad is a fact. Oh! you will have to work two jobs for a long f*cking time just to make ends meet. It will seem these ends never meet.

    I know 1L or 0L your sitting there thinking your different, your not! You will work your a*s off in law school and two thing will happen: 1) you will find out this is all true. 2) you will never find a legal job. That's just the facts.

  7. I practiced law for several years. I could not make a go of it. Fortunatley, I am married to a man who makes good money. With him taking care of all the bills,I can pay my student loans. I still owe money on them. I tried. I mean, I tried my heart out. I advertised in local newspapers, went to laundromats and posted fliers, went door to door, talked to people in my church and posted fliers there and passed out business cards, I did the same when going to PTA meetings and seeing other parents. It was embarrassing. I mean I'm not a salesperson. I felt like I was selling vaccuum cleaners to people who didn't want one. Finally a dear family friend told me about a compliance job that opened up in his office. I prayed to God. I don;t know how many of you are believers or not. Not that it matters. I got on my knees. I cried. And then I realized I needed to swallow my pride and take the position. I have been there for almost 5 years now and I like where I'm at. Please do not go to law school unless you get into an elite school and don't take out any loans for this. The jobs are being outsources left and right. While I don't like the approach of this blog author using strippers to attract people to his site I agree with the overall message.

  8. @12:04 - "I don't like the approach of this blog author using strippers to attract people to his site I agree with the overall message"

    Nando isn't using strippers to attract people. MSNBC ran an actual story of a woman named "Carla," an attorney who lost her job and is now stripping. He is showing the reality of the legal market and sadly people are resorting to stripping, escorting, and other things they may not have considered before getting into law school loan hell.

  9. You are doing God's work Nando. Who knows how many lives you've saved from ruin.

  10. MSNBC and a bunch of other news sources mentioned the lawyer becoming a stripper. Did you want to see another picture of poop.

  11. Guys, Prof. Campos has a petition up that is worth a look -

  12. And, also, JD Class of 2014: Your professional "education" will consist of mysticism, puffery, and bullying, which they sometimes call the "Socratic method" or "teaching you to think like a lawyer." The real point is to inflate that which could be taught in a few months-- the doctrinal framework of core subjects-- into three years of your time and tuition.

  13. From May 23, 2011:

    “WHEELING, W.Va. — The nation’s biggest law firms are creating a second tier of workers, stripping pay and prestige from one of the most coveted jobs in the business world.

    Make no mistake: These are full-fledged lawyers, not paralegals, and they do the same work traditional legal associates do. But they earn less than half the pay of their counterparts — usually around $60,000 — and they know from the outset they will never make partner.

    Some of the lawyers who have taken these new jobs are putting the best face on their reduced status. “To me there’s not much of a difference between what I’m doing now and what I would be doing in a partner-track job,” said Mark Thompson, 29, who accepted a non-partner-track post at Orrick, Herrington & Sutcliffe when he could not find a traditional associate job. “I still feel like I’m doing pretty high-level work — writing briefs, visiting client sites, prepping witnesses for hearings.”

    “Law school is something that nearly half the population considers at one time or another. In this tough economy, however, have law schools turned this recurring American Dream into a debt-nightmare?

    The question is on Congress' collective mind; they ordered up a report on this very topic from the GAO.

    An entire generation of newly minted lawyers, facing student loans the size of a modest first home, are in the same tight spot as those who over-purchased real estate during the boom years. Only for these new lawyers, there is no foreclosure option.

    And the prospects are, well, scary. Established small and medium sized firms will lease office space, but they are not going to pay salaries. The larger firms are downsizing their attorney-rosters. A Northwestern Law study estimates that the large firm sector has lost more than 15,000 attorney and staff positions since 2008.”

    Here are some apologist pieces:

  14. Well done, Nando.

    I propose that run for the House in 2012!

  15. niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!

    That's all I have to say about that stripper.

  16. Without basic bankruptcy protections in place, can Revolution, Anarchy, and a complete breakdown of society be not far in the offing?

    Pretty soon, people are going to say: Enough is enough.

    A deal that reads, in so many words: "The rest of your life is shit and debt, with no risk to the lender, and no immediate and tangible relief in sight, and with no redress in any possible, politial way.....

    is grounds for major, major, major civil unrest and a complete, Top-down breakdown of a society.

    Any society.

  17. Nando - why isn't Campos's blog linked to your blogroll anymore? What's the deal? Just curious.

  18. Law students won't be scared off with this entry. If anything you'll just stregnthen the idiots resolve.

    In their mind they're gonna work harder than the stripper. Never mind the fact she practiced law for 9 years.

  19. Let me preface this with, I do not like Nando. That being said, I always feel the need to say that...he is dead on accurate in what he writes. I think that with a little polish he could be the face that Law School Administrators are going to hate to see, or at least the name. Keep up the fight, Nando...keep up the fight. Speaking of fighting, don't bet against Mayweather this weekend. He picked Ortiz for a reason. If you pay the 70 bucks to watch it in HD, you better at least get a reach around with it.

  20. No comments from lemmings. Funny. When they graudate with 100,000 in student loans and no fucking job I'll bet they'll be wishing then they had listened to these blogs.

  21. NYC strip clubs are littered with female law school students/graduates. I remember a few years ago I met two who were attending NYLS. They worked at the New York Dolls which is located by NYLS. When I asked why they were working there, they replied "tuition and books cost a lot of money." I am sure there are many strippers and prostitutes who hold a JD with debt. The problem is stripping requires physical skill. Most female law students are ugly or average looking at best. Their bodies aren't that hot either. In fact, if it weren't for the fact that I had access to undergrad poon while in law school, I probably would have just watched porn for 3 years because none of the female students at my law school were hot. Oh, and fuck law school hot standards. That is a benchmark used by guys who can't get laid on the regular.

  22. Following this blog for nearly a year, I have to say this is one of Nando's best posts.

    When I was downsized in early 2009, I joined an on-line support group for attorneys and paralegals that lost their jobs during this recession. Although it took me nearly a year to find another paralegal job (with a significant reduction in my salary, plus the benefits are not that great), I was one of the few success stories in our group. I pop in from time to time to check in on how everyone is doing, and there are still a number of people who have not secured full time jobs in law. All one needs to do is run a search on Law, Indeed, and Monster, and there are very, very few full time, permanent positions available for either newly minted attorneys, and entry level legal support. There are however a few jobs available for experienced counsel (5+ years) and experienced paralegals (3-5+ years), however competition is fierce for those positions, and a salary downgrade is very likely (despite having experience).

    There was a time that I would recommend to kids to consider trying out the paralegal route first before running off to law school. I now advise kids to avoid taking out loans and re-think about going into law. There is no longer a career track available to most attorneys now, and forget about opportunities for experienced support staff (should anyone out there is deciding in taking out a loan and investing some time to obtain a paralegal certificate). The ABA certainly was not watching out for anyone in this profession.

  23. My niece is taking the lsat in October. Her parents don't have money or connections. But she thinks she can save the world with a law degree.

  24. 9/16 @ 6:56AM:

    Is your niece hot? If so, maybe after she collects her JD a DJ may saver her life while she dances on a pole.

  25. Nando, that's the prettiest picture you have ever put on this blog. By far.

  26. And yet another crop of lemmings begins their descent into failure, shame, and financial ruin.

  27. Attention grabbing much? Couldn't find a picture of this lovely young lady spread eagle on a poll??

  28. I was talking to someone recently who was studying for the LSAT. She had a liberal arts degree from a low-tier undergrad program. She thought she could use the JD to dress up her useless undergrad education. I asked her what she planned to do with her law degree. She wanted to do something with international law.

    I explained that there is no such thing as an international law job. She acknowleged that the job market is tough right now. I explained again that there is no such thing as an international law job. I said that international law jobs are like hodags or unicorns or monsters under the bed. They are things that exist in peoples' imaginations, but have no existence in the real world. She did not like this answer very much.

    Then she said that she would use her JD to advocate on behalf of women. I asked what her plan was. She thought she could do something with a non-profit or something. I asked what sort of actual work she thought this would involve. No answer.

    Then for craps and giggles I told her that the employment statistics that law schools publish are lies. That didn't go over too well either.

    The really sad thing was, I could tell that this was the first time she heard any of this.

    Hopefully I saved a starry-eyed 0L from a future that might otherwise have involved her working in a place where she would be introduced in this way:


  29. Nando, could you tell your readers why you de-linked Campos's blog? I have a suspicion as to why but rather than speculate, I would rather hear it from the horse's mouth.

    I have been following your blog for quite some time. Your writing has improved quite a lot and I enjoy the manner in which you present these schools and law school villains.

  30. To 9-15-11 9:28 pm and 9-16-11 1:13 pm,

    In the end, it appears that Campos wants transparency from the law schools. Asking the law schools to provide transparency is akin to politely asking a man to stop touching children or assaulting women. It is pointless. This is truly how I view the law schools. The diploma mills are preying on naive, young people. They KNOWINGLY fill the students with false hope, and after they have financially ruined them, the pigs then blame the victim, i.e. "YOU should have known better than to trust us." "Buyer beware." "Do your due diligence. You owe it to yourself." "These kids expect to come out making $160K, coming out of school. They don't have a work ethic, or realize that you've got to work your way up. They want things handed to them."

    The law school pigs are sociopathic. They are unrepentant. When confronted with evidence of their wrongdoing, the cockroaches seek to place blame on others, i.e. "Well, the kids are obsessed with rankings, thanks to US News & World Report. It's a rankings culture." Or "We are responding to market conditions. We are captive to what others do. If everyone else is spending $70 million on new law libraries or tossing money at clinical programs, then we must follow suit or fall further behind. We are helpless."

    We all know that you do not politely ask such a predator to stop his or her actions. You call the cops and report their ass. However, the ABA does not give a damn about the students. So we need to attract the attention of the major press and members of Congress. We must build on this momentum. Regardless of whether Congress ever decides to strip the ABA of its accreditation powers, at least we can damage the schools' reputations - by relying on the facts. And in the U.S., corporations - private, public, "non-profit" or for-profit - are primarily concerned with public perception. It is no different with “institutions of higher learning.”

    When you cannot call the cops, you bust down the perpetrator's door, document his behavior, publish that info to the world, and if you feel the need, bust his head open and toss his ass down a flight of stairs. (Make sure to claim "self-defense.")

    We simply do not need Campos. He wants transparency, via online petitions and friendly, academic discussion. We know that this "strategy" doesn't work. He has tried to elevate Law School Transparency as a "scam-blog" - and as a source of change. I have never been on board with these guys. They are too polite, to be effective. We saw that when only Fourth Tier Ave Maria Sewer of Law agreed to provide "transparent" figures to LST; they later reneged on their word.

    Through our collective research and publishing, the scam-bloggers have been 100 times more effective than Campos. We cannot allow this "scholar" – or anyone else - to hijack the movement. In my view, we attracted the attention of the NYT and senators Grassley and Boxer. Why allow some latecomer - with a different objective - to piggyback off of our hard work, and claim all the credit? We are NOT going to let that happen.

  31. This is directed towards Nando, and anyone else on here who graduated from law school. I am currently a 1L at a respectable tier 2, but I am not paying for my tuition or cost of living. My grandmother is funding my entire experience, for which I am very grateful. I would not have come to law if I had to take out loans, due to the fact that I am far too young to commit financial suicide. Anyway, law school seems pointless; I just don't see the point of reading all of these stupid cases. It is a complete waste of time considering the fact that the only thing that matters about the case is the rule of law. I instead read the Hornbooks, and E & E books, instead of reading the cases. Instead, I get the case summaries off of lexis, so my "professors" can't humiliate me in class. Anyway, did you guys all find law school to be a waste of time? They keep preaching to us that we need to learn to "think like a lawyer," which is complete bullshit, because most of us already think analytically, which is why we went to law school to begin with. None of the shit we are learning has anything to do with the practice of law, which I find to be fucking ridiculous. Contrary to what the greedy professors will have you believe, the law is not difficult to learn, and most legal rules are based on common sense. I just feel like everything I'm learning here is worthless, and there is no way in hell I'd be here if I had to pay for it myself. Anyway, I just wanted to hear your thoughts on the law school curriculum, and teaching methods.

  32. I really think a response from Professor Campos is in order, after reading Nando's 2:22PM remark.

    I agree with Nando, and resent the supercilious tone that Insidethelawschoolscam now has.

    A tone, not so much from Campos, but from his sudden wash of haughty commenters that have strangely all been hiding in the woodwork for the last couple of years.

    Where were those commenters all this time?

  33. Maybe they just prefer supercilious tones to photos of shit? Personally, I like both but some people get off on "high" blogging.

  34. For those seeking an enumerated list:

    1. Campos is part of this sick, depraved system. Reforming such a corrupt industry from within is nearly impossible. Asking other “law professors” to sign a petition is pointless.

    2. His motives for joining the scam-bloggers are suspect. He has a vested interest in ensuring that “reform” does not go too far.

    3. He has benefited from being listed on our blogrolls, since he began his site. He has not had the common courtesy to list any scam-blogs on his roll. In fact, he does not have a blogroll. I honestly do not expect an academic to provide a link to my blog; but there are several scam-blogs that are more polite and professional in tone. Examples include: All Education Matters, Law School Tuition Bubble, and Rose Colored Glasses.

    4. His entries – as well as the commenters – seek to turn SOUL-CRUSHING student loan debt into an academic discussion. The tone is clinical. However, we are not dissecting lab mice in a controlled setting. We are talking about ambitious, young people – their lives, futures and financial well-being!! Trampled goals and shattered dreams are not an abstract “social problem” – that should be discussed in an academic panel or law review article.

    5. Campos has removed some of his more controversial posts. Apparently, he does not want to step on anyone’s toes. I prefer to flush the law school pigs’ faces down the commode – and put my knee in their backs for added leverage.

    To be fair, I don’t feel that Campos has a bad intent - unlike Super Bitch Kimber A. Russell who lives at 1530 W Highland Ave, Chicago, IL 60660-1310. Take a look at what this imbecilic sellout/piece of trash wrote for Kaplan PMBR, on September 12, 2011:

    “The truth about this form of teaching is that professors on the whole are not “out to get” their students, instead, they are trying to encourage students to begin to “think like a lawyer.”

    Anyway, it is nice to see that a tenured law professor is willing to highlight the problems inherent in American “legal education.” However, after facing personal attacks from fellow “legal scholars,” he is now focused on transparency. We are well past that point.

    The ABA has not addressed this issue, even though this “professional organization” of thugs, pigs and cockroaches is in charge of accrediting these diploma factories. They are AWARE of the situation. They KNOW that law schools are charging small fortunes - producing far too many graduates for the number of available attorney and law-related opening – and they allow it to continue. Campos is concerned about this as an “academic problem.” We don’t need his insight. Scam-bloggers have documented this dire situation for over two years now, and brought it to the public’s attention.

  35. @3:37 PM

    When your life becomes nothing but indebted shit, you will soon learn to identify with Nando's approach.

    But I do not wish real and true debt slavery, with no way out, and no legal remedy, and a life of shit, after being cheated, hustled, scammed, ripped off in a shitty legal education shell game, upon anyone.

    What does it feel like to have no real big debt, other than a mortgage and a car loan?

    What does that feel like?

    What does it feel like?

    It must be wonderful.

  36. This lady is a knockout. A stunner. You could bounce quarters off her stomach. oh yeah, law school sucks and stuff.

  37. To September 16, 2011 @ 3:15PM

    I have tried to address some of your questions, though I do not know you or any other person situated like you, in a prior post of mine, here:

    I only wish I could talk to older adults, or to your older family and friends, and warn the wiser, older people.

  38. Yeah yeah. law schools are full of shit.

    Did you see her calves and arches?

  39. I dont know if that was the plan, but that is a picture of a 4th tier stripper. I guess she would be considered hot at a 4th tier school so its an appropriate picture. Next time post some pictures of a hot stripper ie one that does not hide breasts because she has them and one that does not mash her legs together to trick people into thinking she has thigh muscles. Irony at its best, intentional or not.

  40. Nando is correct. The only hope is to get the word out. Law schools will continue the status quo as long as it works- meaning, so long as the number of applicants exceeds the number of available seats. By getting the word out, we decrease applicants and accelerate the time when law schools can't continue under the current model.

    Congress is not going to intervene. People (constituents) hate lawyers (which is ironic because about half of law school grads never get to become a lawyer).

    Our only hope is to speed up the day when the law schools can't fill the seats. Spread the word. I've personally talked about a dozen people out of law school, and though they may not fully recognize it, I saved their lives. Some of the people I tried to help disregarded me, which breaks my heart. They are now destroying their lives.

    I am putting together a lecture I hope to give at some public universities the week of so-called "law school fairs." If we had a lot of people do this together as a campaign, we could save thousands of lives and accelerate the date when the law school industry is forced to change their model.

  41. @3:15 pm,

    The Socratic Method is idiotic. It does not prepare one to practice law. In effect, it is simply a game where the “professor” plays the student as a cat on a string. It is an ego boost for the social retards known as “law professors.”

    This nonsense was instituted, in the late 19th century, by Christopher Columbus Langdell, a douche-bag who taught at Harvard Law School. (It was sold as "law as science," whereby lawyers and judges apply "legal principles" in order to reach "correct" legal decisions. Anyone with an IQ above 80 knows that "law equals politics" - and that judicial decisions are often based on ideology.) Schools continue to rely on this "teaching tool," primarily because it is extremely cost-effective for the pigs.

    First year classes often consist of one "professor," an assigned casebook, the teacher's edition, and 75 students. Think of how much the schools are raking in, under such a scheme. (This is why you hear schools bitching about the costs associated with establishing clinical programs. To be truly effective, such clinics require the following: relatively few students; space; a few "professors" and support staff, such secretaries, IT workers, clerks, etc.)

    Take a look at the scam-blog entry below, which was posted on November 14, 2010:

    "Like I've said many, for a profession ostensibly based in rationality, law has a horrible track record of basing its beliefs on irrational or unproven premises. There is not one shred of empirical evidence that the law school-style Socratic Method (a random, bank-and-forth unprepared question and answer session with a student) and emphasis on casebooks produces people who "think like lawyers." Not one.

    In scientific study, rule number one regarding causation is that correlation does not imply causation. Rule number two regarding causation is to always consider alternative causal forces. As philosophers like Popper and Mill showed, causation is incredibly hard to prove.

    So when you hear a Law School administrator showering plaudits upon the Socratic Method for how it makes people think like lawyers, or that it's a superior method of pedagogy, the alarm bells of skepticism (ones every lawyer - hell, every educated person - should have) should sound. First, something else may be causing law students to "think like lawyers." Second, where superiority is argued, there may be an alternative to the Socratic Method that may be more efficient in causing the observed phenomenon."

    In the end, those in law school are already capable of critical thought. Plus, your future employer does not care whether you are a “critical thinker.” In fact, that may be a strike against you - as American businesses want compliant workers. Most workers prefer if you don’t ask questions, keep your mouth shut, and efficiently perform your job tasks.

  42. Thanks for the insight. Your next piece needs to be on Duquesne. Read this article written by their greedy dean, who bemoans law students for expecting a reasonably paying job after going into debt 200k.

  43. I second the motion. Please please go after this bastard from Duquesne. I mean fucking let loose on this cocksucker.

  44. Nando, you hit the nail on the head. I went to a T25 law school that wants to get rid of the clinics it has for precisely the same reason you stated: it siphons money away from law professor and administrator salaries. I stopped giving money to my law school for other reasons but if they get rid of the clinics, then I will have nothing to do with them as an alum. Law school didn't teach me how to practice law. I got those skills by working for a firm, a job which I may add I obtained without the help of the useless career services office. You should do a post on the CSO's of law schools. In my opinion, this office is the most inept and blood sucking creature, right there with the law professors.

    Re: Campos

    I agree this professor joined the movement too late and is trying to steal the spotlight. He is another Bill Henderson in my book. Petitions and academic dialogue will not remedy the law school problem. Your site, albeit raw, is making those cockroaches squirm. I am sure you get plenty of views from edu IP addresses from law schools across America. The vermin deans are on notice.

  45. ^This web page is so brutal in its contempt, law schools would mention in their brochures if they got some positive comments on it. Picture it going something like this:

    (page 2) Two positive comments about this school were posted on the third tier reality profile. (link attached)

  46. Who would pay to see a 30 something hag take her clothes off? She has to be doing more than that - probably fellating, masturbating or being sodomized by her elderly "clientele", more than likely - all to make the student loan payments -

  47. 'Who would pay to see a 30 something hag take her clothes off?'

    Probably other broke JDs and lawyers who can't afford to go to a real nightclub.

  48. "This is why you hear schools bitching about the costs associated with establishing clinical programs. To be truly effective, such clinics require the following: relatively few students; space; a few "professors" and support staff, such as secretaries, IT workers."

    There is another reason. The students would quickly realize that clinics require NO professors whatsoever. The clinics could be-- and should be-- supervised by a successful local practictioner, paid an adjunct's wage. Not by a professor who picks up a big tenured paycheck for bullshitting his way through the caselaw book, but who has never tried a case, or filed an appellate brief.

    I foresee legal education in the future as being a structured series of clinics and externships, with a few classes thrown into the mix to teach core legal doctrine, help students improve legal writing skills, and, perhaps, for a few other purposes. And you would not need a single professor for any of this, not a single goddamn one.

  49. Yes, it's atrocious that law schools massage their graduate employment statistics. Law schools and law school professors are TURDS.

    But, having said that, I'm afraid that law school students, despite having been defrauded, despite having been butt-fucked during 3 years of Law School, are hopelessly, defectively gullible. These young J.D. "Whipper-Snappers" think that they wouldn't have been screwed if they are now able to find jobs. Sigh...

    These poor, indebted,young Fuckers think that if they could now just find jobs and plug into a hopelessly flawed economic, political, social system that they'll have normal lives and a future. They're deluding themselves...again...Sigh....

  50. Looks like it's time to update the blog roll since Angry Law Admissions Guy is apparently gone...poof!

  51. Angry Law Admissions Guy = scared little faggot.

  52. More likely Angry Law Admissions Guy = Angry Unemployed Former Admissions Guy

  53. Yeah go easy on this guy. He provided too many hints about himself. Like not having a JD. They probably discovered who he was and terminated him.

  54. All his posts have been removed, but I can still get his blog home page.

    And I think Campos did a post about the Angry law Admissions guy.

  55. Campos at least had the balls to keep his blog up. Admissions guy got scared.

  56. Re: Angry law admissions guy

    The law school cartel strikes again! Do these fucking pigs monitor the blogosphere that closely?

    I guess when your entire money making scheme is to trick young naive kids to part with their (government given) money and provide fucking bullshit lies and garbage "knowledge" in return, you need to keep close lids on your previous "customers" and your employees.

    Every single law school admin and "law professor" should be FORCED to live on 10k a year.

    Just like me!

    A practicing Georgia attorney! 10k a year!


  57. @ 4:40

    I am not Campos although I support his blog as I do yours, just to be clear. In his defense, I would point out that:

    1. Perhaps, but I don't see how it can hurt.

    2. Yes people have accused him of possibly being a "bandwagoner". Its somewhat fair but he also has been saying and writing about this stuff before although never in a full fledged blog. The fact that his blog has power precisely because he is agreeing with the scambloggers.

    If he has some "ulterior motive" as well, it doesn't matter as long as it serves the interest of bringing down the LS scam.

    3. He DOES link to the scamblogs just not as part of a blogroll. When he cites a scamblog article, he links to it in his articles IIRC. But I can understand if he doesn't want to link to a scamblog as such rather than link to individual scamblog articles. I suspect he fears that if a scamblog goes off the rails, his linking to an actual blog (rather than an invididual article) could be problematic.

    4. This is somewhat true but not always. His article about "Alex" was exactly an attempt to get away from a pure academic discussion and talk about how the scam affected someone in real terms. Even there though, he was attacked for "exploiting" someones misery to advance his point. So you can't win them all.

    Anyway, I think that the law school scam needs to be attacked on multiple fronts. But each person has a different role to play in the "war". LawProf has his.Your blog is important but at the same time, if EVERY blog were like yours, it would be redundant.

  58. I meant @4:04 not 4:40.

    Here is the full link I was responding to:

  59. @ anonymous who is funding his/her education with grandma's money. Now that you know what law school is all about, WTF are you doing wasting $80 to %100K of grandma's hard earned cash on another year or two if you already know what a waste of time and money it is? Somebody, maybe your grandfather, had to work his ass off for that money. Just because it isn't you doesn't mean you should waste other people's money. Sorry, but it just seems wrong, in fact just as reprehensible as those douches running the diploma mills. If grandma is willing, take the $100K in cash and invest it. Even a 1% return on your money is better than the 90% loss that two years of law school represents. Even if grandma isn't willing to just fork over the money, you shouldn't waste it.


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