Tuesday, December 27, 2011

Second Tier Hog Waste: University of Arkansas School of Law


http://law.uark.edu/prospective/jd/costs-financial-aid.html

Tuition: In-state students, attending this public sewer on a full-time basis, will be charged $11,932.80 in tuition and fees, for the 2011-2012 school year. (The pigs do not mention that the listed costs represent per semester prices.) Out-of-state, full-time law students at this school will pay $24,528.30 in tuition and fees – for 2011-2012.

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings/page+4

Ranking: According to US “News” & World Report, the UniversiTTy of Arkansas Sewer of Law is the 84th best, most amazing law school in the nation. In fact, the school landed in an eleven-way tie for the highly-coveted 84th place! Who wouldn’t want to attend such a “prestigious” institution?!?!

http://law.uark.edu/career-services/services.html

Employment and Starting Salary Statistics: Apparently, the school is unable or unwilling to provide job placement and starting salary data. Here is the sewage pit’s description:

“Employment, salary, and bar passage statistics for students, graduates, and employers. As a member of the National Association for Law Placement, we receive statistical information on legal employment throughout the United States and elsewhere.”

http://arkansas-fayetteville.lawschoolnumbers.com/

According to Law School Numbers, 75.9 percent of this school’s JD Class of 2005 was employed within nine months of graduation. That figure is truly embarrassing! From the perspective of law students and recent graduates, it is horrifying. By the way, LSN notes that a total of TEN law firms participated in OCI - for 2007-2008! What amazing success, huh?!?! With such anemic results, the commode should be ashamed to charge out-of-state, full-time law students $24,538.30 in tuition - for the current academic year. Somehow, I doubt that the faculty loses much sleep over this situation.

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/grad-debt-rankings/page+7

Average Law Student Indebtedness: US “News” lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the Univer$iTTy of Arkan$a$ JD Class of 2010 who incurred debt for law school - as $56,358. Furthermore, 81 percent of this second tier sewer’s 2010 class took on such toxic debt. This amount does not take undergraduate debt into account.

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2009/jan/18/top-salaries-state-government-employees/

Administrator and Faculty Salary Data: According to this Arkansas Democrat-Gazette article - published on January 18, 2009 at 5:59 am - Cynthia Nance, then-dean of the law school, “earned” $199,100. Lonnie Beard, “professor of law,” made $182,949, whereas dean emeritus Robert Moberly raked in $178,738. These are not outrageous salaries, but they presumably permit one to live quite handsomely in the Fayetteville, AR area.

http://law.uark.edu/current/journals/journal-of-food-law-policy.html

As a student at this public dung pit, you will have the unique opportunity to write onto the Journal of Food Law & Policy. Imagine how women and potential employers will react when they see this experience on your resume!

http://law.uark.edu/current/journals/journal-of-islamic-law-culture.html

If you are interested in seeking a more “prestigious” law journal to partake in, then look no further than the Journal of Islamic Law & Culture. From the school’s description:

“The purpose of The Journal of Islamic Law & Culture is to encourage scholarship and dialog that fosters a deeper understanding of the law and public policy of Islamic religion and culture, particularly as it intersects with Western law and society, including the legal and social communities of the United States. The Journal invites the submission of manuscripts from the legal and non-legal communities, and from Muslim and non-Muslim researchers. The Journal is particularly interested in articles on issues relating to Islam and Muslims in the United States and comparative topics addressing Islam and other religious or cultural traditions.”

Conclusion: The University of Arkansas Sewer of Law is a regional law school - and that is being kind to the institution. While this is the flagship law school in the state, do not expect to make a big-ass salary coming out of this commode. Hell, the school’s “Office of Career Planning and Placement” did not furnish employment placement and starting salary figures, for its recent grads. That ought to tell you something.

In the end, you DO NOT NEED to take on an additional $60K-$85K for a chance to become a lawyer. In fact, if you cannot find a decent-paying job or career soon after graduation, then you will likely be in worse financial shape than before you entered law school. Remember, “higher education” is a commodity in this nation. The “educators” and administrators are paid up front, in full. You, the student and graduate, will be stuck re-paying for this “investment” - plus interest - for the next 25-30 years.

50 comments:

  1. http://news.yahoo.com/disgraced-ex-journalist-fights-ca-law-license-194254623.html

    I know its unrelated, but I'm a little surprised the California bar is denying Stephen Glass on C&F.

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  3. This school is a complete fucking joke. First off, none of the law professors have any legal practice experience. So naturally, should you enroll in this trash pit, you will not receive actual legal instruction either. Just bullshit "rule in shelly's case" and other such complete nonsense that does not even fucking matter in the real practice of law.

    When you graduate this shit school, you will NEVER find a job. If you leave the shitty redneck state of Arkansas, you will NEVER EVER EVER find a job.

    So let's see, no job, don't know how to practice law (to hang your own shingle) leaves you with the worst decision in your life, loss of 3 years, 50k in debt, no better off.

    But guess who is better off? The "Deans" and the "Professors" who make so much money.

    I thin I saw "200k" Dean Nance TWICE in my 3 years there.

    One of those times was when she handed my the toilet paper J.D. at graduation.

    What does that tell you about this true piece of shit school?

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    1. You get what you put in, Cyrus. Keep in mind, you are not creating any additional value for your degree by shitting all over your alma mater.

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    2. AtheistATLLawyerMay 18, 2012 at 9:20 AM

      It's fucking ironic that these Stockholm Syndrome kids come out of the wood work.

      I get what I put in? Let's see, I am currently making 20k PER MONTH in my law practice.

      I transcend the fucking scam. My concern is the VAST majority of the law grads who are in fucking poverty.

      You see, I'm not some stupid piece of shit Christian Republican. Get it?

      I actually care about my fellow classmates in poverty who were scammed.

      Most of them will NEVER, ever succeed in this "noble" profession.

      I am the most financially successful 2010 grad BY FAR.

      20k per month.

      What do you make? 4k? Working as a slave at some sweatshop? Do you even practice law now or working at starbucks?

      Let me be clear, the scam is wrong. It doesn't matter that I am now making 20k per month. The scam is still a scam and it is WRONG.

      I am successful NOT because of what I "put in" but because of what I already had. Law school did absolutely nothing to put me in the position I am today. Mother fucking scammers.

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    3. I worked with two 2007 graduates who have been very successful, and not just financially. Federal judges hold them an great esteem as well as their clients. Your inability to succeed is more a reflection of your character and your abilities rather than your law school. Learn to accept some responsibility.

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    4. To the piece of trash who posted on July 18, 2012 at 8:53 am,

      http://ip-whois-lookup.com/lookup.php?ip=130.184.236.172

      IP Information - 130.184.236.172
      Host name: uaf40251.ddns.uark.edu
      Country: United States
      Country Code: US
      Region: AR
      City: Fayetteville
      Latitude: 35.9543
      Longitude: -93.9795

      NetRange: 130.184.0.0 - 130.184.255.255
      CIDR: 130.184.0.0/16
      OriginAS: AS10508
      NetName: UARKNET
      NetHandle: NET-130-184-0-0-1
      Parent: NET-130-0-0-0-0
      NetType: Direct Assignment
      Comment: http://www.uark.edu
      RegDate: 1988-09-09
      Updated: 2012-03-05
      Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-130-184-0-0-1

      OrgName: University of Arkansas
      OrgId: UNIVER-249
      Address: 155 Razorback Road, ADSB 220
      City: Fayetteville
      StateProv: AR
      PostalCode: 72701
      Country: US
      RegDate:
      Updated: 2011-09-24
      Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/UNIVER-249

      How are you doing today, bitch?!?!

      From my analytics:

      Jul 18 2012 8:40:45 am
      130.184.236.172

      /2011/12/second-tier-hog-waste-university-of.html
      THIRD TIER REALITY: Second Tier Hog Waste: University of Arkansas

      google.com
      university of arkansas professor salaries

      By the way, cockroach: your reading comprehension skills are lower than those of a typical middle school student. Apparently, you failed to see where AtheistATLLawyer mentioned that he was the most successful graduate from his class, moron.

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    5. Do they make hemorrhoid cream strong enough for your level of butthurt?

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  4. Those who can do, those who cant teach. I dont think any person looking at law schools picks a school because of the professors and once we are there, we make even more fun of them.

    These jobs that these failed lawyers manage to secure are akin to the rich girl we couldnt land because we were not rich no matter how hard we worked. That thread was awesome and very profound.

    Unfortunately to get a law degree we have to spend 3 years listening to these wanna bes fake their resumes and hide the fact they could not handle practicing law or in fact despise practice while they puff about meaningless crap and support law student groups who search for the meaning of life in green or space law clinics or societies. This has always been the case as your students who turned out to be bad ass lawyers had no time to involve themselves with all the ass kissing of faculty types who got rich from the tuition of kids who like them would never practice law. This set up will always exist like it did 20-30 years ago. These folks have never fooled us about who they were.

    The question is now whether tuition costs which have skyrocketed where wages have probably dropped can be justified. With the economy sucking in most all professions, law will still get a look by anyone with a brain and no science or construction abilities.

    The tuition in many cases is worth it over the long haul, but with the increase in the gold digging and status obsessed woman population, you have to look at it from a social standpoint. Before you analyze going or not financially, ask yourself if you can handle delaying marriage and kids or if you are willing to settle in your choice of a spouse. This is even more important because even if you do well over the years and money starts to roll in during your 40s and 50s by then you have missed out on that hot chick who might have given you the time of day if you were working in your 20s and appeared to have the slightest bit of money.

    Decisons over shit schools need to be looked at more risk wise socially then they do from a tuition standpoint.

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  5. atheist, did you enjoy your classes at this school at least?

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  6. Many years ago, I worked on a case with a law clinic that was directed by a tenured law professor. Watching him telling students what to do was like witnessing the blind leading the blind. And this was a supposed constitutional law scholar. I have seen better work product from pro se litigants than these supposed law professors. Can you imagine an MD that never practiced medicine teaching med students? I cannot understand how law is the only discipline I can think of where you are taught the law by people who washed out of the practice of law.

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  7. http://www.answers.com/topic/harland-sanders

    'When he lost his job with the railroad, Sanders began practicing law. He had some success in the legal field from about 1915 to the early 1920s, working in the Justice of the Peace courts in Little Rock, Arkansas. Sanders ruined his legal career, however, by getting into a brawl with a client in the courtroom. Although found innocent of assault and battery, Sanders' legal practice was through.'

    Gotdamn The Colonel loves himself some muthafuckin' Arkansas. He sho'ly do. Ya see I used to practice law in Little Rock. Yessirre, I sho'ly done did practicd sum fuckin' law in dat dem there state a Arkansas.

    Ya betta not be talkin' down 'bout da Razahbacks. I can't rememba 'xactly, it was so goddayem long ago but I coulda sworn the sonofabitch I gots in a brawl wit' was talkin' shit 'bout da football team. He stopped it when I hit 'em wit' a right cross to the jaw. Ya hears meh? Boys got themselves a gotdamn good football pr'gram. I don'ts know shit 'bout da law school. But does dat really matta?

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  8. This piece of shit school isn't even regional, it's a state school/.

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  9. As with many other low-ranked law schools, the University of Arkansas has several joint degree programs. You will notice that you can earn a JD/MA, JD/MBA or JD/MPA.

    http://law.uark.edu/prospective/jd/joint-programs.html

    “Joint Programs

    J.D./M.A. Program

    The School of Law and the department of political science provide a dual J.D. and M.A. in international law and politics. Students in this program must be admitted both to the School of Law and the Graduate School department of political science.

    "A maximum of 12 hours of approved, upper-level elective law courses may be used as credit toward the M.A., and a maximum of nine hours of approved graduate courses in political science may be used as credit toward the J.D. degree, reducing the time necessary to complete both degrees by about one academic year. The M.A. program offers a six-hour thesis or a paid, six-month internship.”

    Yes, that Master of Arts in international law and politics will truly set you apart from the other graduates, right?!?! Then again, Bill Clinton taught law at this dung heap, before he became governor - and then went onto higher office.

    http://www.arkansas.com/things-to-do/clinton-library/clinton-sites/

    “Fayetteville -- Home to the University of Arkansas, this Northwest Arkansas city is where Clinton came to teach law and run for Congress in the early 1970s. Get interesting facts about Bill Clinton and his time in Fayetteville.

    Waterman Hall, the home of the University of Arkansas Law School, where Clinton taught constitutional law from 1973 to 1976. Hillary Rodham, whom Clinton had met at Yale, also taught law here.”

    Look! Hillary Rodham Clinton also taught at this law school - and now she is the U.S. Secretary of State!! I’m surprised that the board of trustees has not renamed the law school after either Bill or Hillary Clinton.

    “J.D./M.P.A. Program

    The University of Arkansas department of political science, the Graduate School, and the School of Law cooperate in offering a dual-degree program that allows students to pursue the Master of Public Administration (M.P.A.) and J.D. degrees concurrently.”

    As you can tell, political science seems to be the unifying factor of these combined degree programs. It makes sense, seeing that law equals politics. Hopefully, students are not enrolling in these schemes - with the intention of becoming future presidential aides or ambassadors.

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  10. Arkansas has two law schools, but no dental school. Their is a shortage of dentists in Arkansas. The lawyer population is like some freak run-away deer population that has been allowed to multiply because of low barriers to entry, fed by easy government loan money, allowing law schools to have no accountability to such things as supply and demand while making a tidy profit for a shit quality product called a JD.

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  11. Memo to Lemmings:

    You don´t need a joint degree in the law and politics from this watering/dung hole to be a Boss Hog in the South. Being related to the mayor, judge or councilman is a better credential than having a JD from Razorback country.

    Thank me in 3 years when your fellow classmates soldier on a fool´s errand and they graduate with no job and a whole lot of NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt.

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  12. Any prospective law school student not aware of the law school scam by now is willfully ignorant or completely dumber than shit. You tell 'em the truth about law school and the idiots have a hissy fit.

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  13. Do not throw away your life.

    Do not go to a law school unless you are a well set up person beforehand.

    How can I shake some sense into people?

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  14. 79 percent employment? Are you fucking kidding me? The picture should've been one of pig shit up close.

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  15. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Misplaced the decimal point in their glossy brochures. It was probably 7.9% employment at graduation but.. you know.. that number needs a little bit of massaging to make it more attractive.

    I suspect that a 7.9% figure at graduation is fairly accurate as well.

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    1. I was thinking, 79% sounds like total BS, 7.9 is probably more like it. What the school probably means that 79% got jobs ranging anywhere from fast food to a career in insurance.

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  16. Are there any statisticts as to what percentage of graduates from this or this or any law school are practicing law or working in the legal industry ie a job that requires a law degree and bar passage one year after graduation? Two years? Five years?

    This is how you determine a schools worth.

    I dont care if you graduate from law school and end up managing a Radio Shack. That does not count.

    This reporting of statistics should be mandatory for all law schools.

    Its like if I go to Computer Tech and train to work in computers and I graduate and end up a hostess at Applebees, that does not count towards them saying their graduates get jobs.

    We have gotten so bad in requiring standards in any part of our life that in addition to this scam, it has become no big deal that the President of the USA does not need to show his credentials ie birth certificate grades etc and can be whatever he says he is without anyone saying the Constitution matters your ass is not eligible you British fuckwad. Society has become about bullshit lies and marketing by people trying sell hope and change and a better life to people who are not lazy do nothings, but to people who want to better themselves but dont have money or connections to do so. I mean look at the morons pulling down these salaries at these law schools and preaching pipe dreams to the wanna be rich. These folks would get run over in the private sector where performance matters and students with no guidance worhsip them before they go to the real world.

    Nando can you point us to any statistics about who is working in law versus employed at Walmart?

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  17. When will you finally get to Fordham? Just look at the pricetag and fact its located in New York. You gotta cover this shithole soon.

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  18. Do yourself a favor before taking out huge student loans for law school. Look at your local classified section for attorney employment. The lack of positions is chilling. Go on USA JOBS and look how many Federal Jobs are available. Compare this to how many people are passing the bar each year in your state, and the amount of money it costs to "purchase" these credentials. Law school is now a losing proposition for 95% of those who attend. If you do not have a job lined up before entering your first year, you will likely live a life of financial ruin if you have to finance your education through loans. There are almost no legal jobs period. There are so many experienced attorneys who have been laid off from firms who struggle to find anything. You will be competing for a 45K crap job with a former big law associate, judicial clerk, or ex ADA who themselves cannot make ends meet.

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  19. WARNING!

    STAY AWAY FROM LAW SCHOOL THIS YEAR, AND NEXT YEAR, AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT!

    WARNING!

    WARNING!

    WARNING!

    YOU HAVE BEEN ALERTEN AND GIVEN THE WARNING,BUT ONCE MORE:

    WARNING! AND DANGER TO YOUR LIFE AND SOUL!

    STAY AWAY FROM LAW SCHOOL!

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  20. WARNING!

    STAY AWAY FROM LAW SCHOOL THIS YEAR, AND NEXT YEAR, AND THE YEAR AFTER THAT!

    WARNING!

    WARNING!

    RED ALERT! RED ALERT!

    WARNING!

    TOO MANY LAWYERS AND TOO MANY OVERPRICED SCHOOLS PUMPING LAWYERS OUT INTO AN OVERALL (LEGAL AND NON-LEGAL) JOB MARKET THAT VERY SIMPLY DOES NOT WANT THEM!

    YOU HAVE NOW BEEN ALERTED AND GIVEN THE WARNING, BUT ONCE MORE:

    WARNING! AND DANGER TO YOUR LIFE AND SOUL!

    STAY AWAY FROM LAW SCHOOL!

    YOUR VERY HAPPINESS AS A BASIC HUMAN BEING IS AT STAKE!

    MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON YOUR DAMNED INDEBTED SOUL IF YOU FAIL TO HEED THIS WARNING!

    STAY AWAY FROM THE TRAP!

    BE SMART AND TAKE IT FROM OLDER PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE.

    STAY AWAY!

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  21. Even the doc review jobs are disapperaing from this country. Why pay some schmoe $25 an hour in the states (even if he went to a good law school) when you can pay Sanjaya Pitnurminajan $5 an hour?

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  22. The doc review "safety net" is gone. It was only a matter of time..

    Agreed re: Fordham.

    The imbeciles at JD Blunderground believe that this overpriced pile is still a haven. Wrong.. 15 or so law schools in NY alone? Collapsing market..

    It was a decent school once with decent placement in Biglaw. Now, because of the price, I'd only go if Mommy & Daddy were paying full fare or on a full NSA scholarship.

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  23. Fordham has always been the third rate bastard step-child behind NY schools such as Columbia, NYU and Cornell. I agree that there was a time when Biglaw hired the top third from Fordham. When the economy was booming, heck even Biglaw hired from St. Johns. Today? Fordham is a risky investment. I have met recent Fordham grads and students who are scared shitless. They are working low wage jobs, interning for free, etc.. In this economy, Biglaw probably hires top 5-10% from Fordham. Yet 90-95% of its students get fucked paying close to $75K a year when you factor tuition, fees, living expenses and COLA in NYC. I also know four grads from Fordham. Their student loan debt ranges from $120K to $270K. One had to file bankruptcy recently because he was blacklisted from the doc review circuit. He was able to discharge $70K of credit card debt but his $178K in student loans survived the bankruptcy. The second person works for legal aid and is on IBR. The third person works as a freelance journalist. The third person is actually a trust fund child so I am not too worried about him. The fourth person is a struggling solo, defering student loans via forbearance. I think he defaulted on his loans. Of course, this is just a random sampling. I am sure there are some success stories from Fordham but they are very few. Is it worth spending close to $210K for a three year venture in lol skool? Sure, living in NYC for three years is great but you will spend 25 to 30 years of your life repaying for that brief 3 year experience from your life. Nando, I think you know your next assignment. Search the above the law archives. There have been many tragic stories from Fordham law. In fact there was a homeless caption contest featuring a man wearing a Fordham law cap. It wasn´t confirmed whether said hobo was a Fordham law grad but it would not shock me.

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  24. Here's an idea for a title to a possible Fordham entry: Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition Fordham University Shitter of Law.

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  25. Nando, if you are going to profile Fordham law, I suggest you use the following picture:

    http://abovethelaw.com/2011/09/caption-contest-winner-what-can-you-do-with-a-fordham-law-degree/homeless-fordham-law-e1315516812577-2/

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  26. You haven't done Fordham yet? Fucksake man. You can't let these overcharging pigs off the hook like that. I like the picture from the ATL link. It reminds me of that movie where Joe Pesci plays a fucking bum that wears a Harvard sweater.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR7kVDwGiRg

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  27. wth Nando why are you attacking them for charging $12k tuition?

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  28. http://law.uark.edu/prospective/jd/33-programs.html

    “3/3 Program Arts & Sciences

    The School of Law and the J. William Fulbright College of Arts & Sciences offer a program that enables outstanding students to enter the School of Law after their third year of college. Students in the Fulbright College are eligible to begin at the School of Law after the completion of at least 94 hours of college work if they have:

    completed all university, college, and major course requirements for their undergraduate degree;
    earned a cumulative grade-point average of at least 3.5; and
    received a LSAT score of at least 159.

    Such students will receive a Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Science degree after the completion of sufficient hours of School of Law work to meet the regular requirements of the Fulbright College. These students will then receive a J.D. degree after completing the required number of hours of School of Law coursework.”

    Another ploy to gain additional tuition dollars from students - and taxpayers. While this program ostensibly helps “outstanding” students save money - by permitting them to bypass roughly one full academic year undergrad - apparently its biggest aim is to retain those students, for their tuition. If these students have excelled at the University of Arkansas, then they may have many more options for law school.

    Furthermore, in an era of grade inflation, it is not extremely difficult to earn a 3.5 undergraduate GPA - depending on the major area of study. For instance, I graduated from college, with a 3.82 grade point average. Someone who enjoys History or English Literature - and has a decent intelligence level while not spending much time drunk at parties - can presumably reach a 3.5 GPA. Will the school provide some scholarship money to these “exceptional” students, even if they only score a 159 on the LSAT?!?!

    “3/3 Program Agriculture

    Exceptional students in the pre-law concentration in the Dale Bumpers College of Agricultural, Food and Life Sciences may enroll in the School of Law in their fourth year provided the following requirements have been met. Students must have:

    completed all university, college, and major course requirements for the pre-law concentration;
    completed 12 hours in the specialization list for pre-law;
    earned a cumulative grade-point average of at least 3.5 without grade renewal; and
    received an LSAT score of at least 159.

    A student admitted to this program may substitute Law School course work for the remaining total hours required for the bachelor's degree in agricultural business.

    It is a requirement of the Law School's accrediting standards that no student be admitted to the Law School until they have completed at least three-fourths of the work necessary for the baccalaureate degree. The requirements embodied in the 3/3 programs satisfy this requirement.”

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  29. @ 5:29 AM

    12k Tuition? For what? Not learning how to practice law? Not obtaining a legal job? It doesn't matter if they charge 12k or fucking 50k. The education they provide is 100% WORTHLESS.

    This is the fucking retarded line the Deans take.

    "Tuition is only 12k per year, so that leaves our graduates with a lot of flexibility!"

    AKA, when they can't find a job, (because they won't) 12k isn't THAT big of a burden to carry!

    BULLSHIT. I want my 3 years back.

    Worthless law school. Worthless profession. Worthless country and worthless society.

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  30. True. This school is shittier than piles of wet hog shit.

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  31. Some stories to cite or consider if you are thinking of featuring Fordham law:

    Fordham law grad becomes a cleaning lady after getting laid off from Biglaw:

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2010/09/2007-fordham-law-grad.html

    Or check out this recent Fordham law grad who has an Ivy league undergrad degree and she is at best a glorified blogger. Click on her name in the article for her ¨legal experience.¨ In a twist of irony, she writes about whether law school is worth it:

    http://www.sociablelawyer.org/over-educated-under-employed-reflections-on-law-school-debt-from-a-recent-grad-93073

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  32. @ Atheist Lawyer,

    At least the racketeer influenced and corrupt organization known as the American Bar Association recognized Cynthia Nance of the Univer$iTTy of Arkan$a$ Sewer of Law - for promoting diversity!

    http://law.uark.edu/news-and-events/archive/2011/ABA-to-honor-Nance-for-advancing-diversity.html

    “The former dean of the University of Arkansas School of Law will receive the American Bar Association Spirit of Excellence Award for promoting a more racially and ethnically diverse legal profession. Cynthia E. Nance, who now serves as the Nathan G. Gordon Professor of Law at the University of Arkansas, will be recognized at the American Bar Association midyear meeting in New Orleans on Feb. 4.

    "Nance is a trailblazer, becoming both the first female and first black female dean of a college or school in the history of the University of Arkansas," said Reginald M. Turner, chair of the American Bar Association Commission on Racial and Ethnic Diversity in the Profession.

    Nance is a member of the American Law Institute and the Law School Admissions Council Board of Directors. She serves as chair of the Finance and Legal Affairs Committee of Law School Admissions Council. She is also a member National Association for Law Placement Foundation Board and the American Bar Association Labor and Employment Law Section's Council. In addition, she is past chair of the American Association of Law Schools Employment Discrimination and Labor & Employment Law Sections.”

    Is anyone else bored with this long list of idiotic memberships? The fluff piece continued:

    "Women, and particularly minority women, law professors look to Cyndi Nance as one of the most inspirational leaders in academia," said Stacy L. Leeds, dean of the University of Arkansas School of Law. "She is a true trailblazer in demonstrating effective leadership as a university administrator while remaining fully engaged in social justice issues."

    Yes, the law schools care so much about diversity, right?!?! In the end, they are simply trying to paint themselves in the best light, i.e. this is largely for public consumption. (For an apt comparison, notice all of the smiling, attractive brown, black, yellow and white faces the next time you look at corporate job advertisements. Does anyone think that these scenes/photos reflect workplace realities?!)

    How many minority lawyers are struggling to make it, in this fifth rate job industry? Many simply do not have the correct family name or connections, in order to succeed in this filth-covered “profession.” Even if the schools throw scholarship money, MOST racial minority law students will end up with additional, non-dischargeable debt - and anemic job prospects in the legal sector. In the end, the commodes seek to ensure that the makeup of their student enrollment will not cause any agencies to take a hard look at them. As an added bonus, by “opening up the doors to groups that have been historically under-represented,” the schools may win over a few more interested minorities - which would then lead to larger class sizes and more money.

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  33. @Nando

    I've read post after post on your blog, some of it reasonable criticism, most of it hyperbolic venomous bullshit. One thing you have consistently refused to do is answer the simple question of whether or not you ever took or passed the bar exam. Why are you evasive on this point?

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  34. Hello Fat Pig Raymond,

    I can see that you still have your heart set on attending law school, Dumbass. That is unfortunate. By the way, I have answered that question dozens of times on this blog. I did not take the bar exam. I landed a decent non-legal job about two months after graduating from Third Tier Drake. Maybe you should learn to read more than one or two entries, before reaching stupid conclusions, cockroach.

    Furthermore, I did not have any prospects for legal employment, bitch. Seeing that I had a decent job with great benefits - and no serious law firm prospects - I did not see the need to take the stupid-ass bar exam. I am not one of those people who needs outside validation, in order to bolster my sense of self. I am secure in who I am, Raymond.

    In the end, taking the bar exam - with no prospects - is nothing but folly. At this point, I have no desire to practice law. Hell, PLENTY of practicing lawyers are looking to leave their pathetic, demanding “profession” - on a daily basis.

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    Stick to losing weight, you corpulent ass-wipe. You are an undergrad student at the University of Tennessee. YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LAW SCHOOL, OR THE GLUTTED LEGAL JOB MARKET.

    http://thirdtierreality.blogspot.com/2011/05/wash-your-hands-thoroughly-washburn.html

    Head to this thread, to see where I stomped a mudhole in Raymond’s rotund ass. Scroll down to his initial comment on October 18, 2011 at 3:55 pm - and then view my response. The fat bastard was upset, because I profiled Washburn University Sewer of Law. I wonder how many cheese puffs he ate, in order to cope with someone legitimately criticizing his beloved (potential) school. Go devour a jelly doughnut or consume another bag of Fritos, Raymond.

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  35. How is life in the Topeka/Lawrence, Kansas area, lard-ass?!?! Are you visiting your family, for the holidays, bitch?

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    Visits: 7
    Language: English
    Location: Topeka, KS, USA
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    Jan 1 2012 5pm 68.93.193.173 10 actions 13m 53s google.com/search
    Jan 1 2012 10:47am 68.93.193.173 2 actions 1s google.com thirdtierreality missouri
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    The fat pig even had time to check out this blog from a Seattle, WA Starbucks - on December 21, 2011. That was quite a layover, from his Kansas destination. Hopefully, he didn’t stuff his face with a bag of cookies or several rice crispy treats.

    Are you now looking into applying to the University of Missouri School of Law? Your LSAT and UGPA must not be that impressive, if you are considering such cesspools. Remember, your feelings were hurt when I profiled Washburn back in May 25, 2011. Since I have answered your idiotic query, you should provide your LSAT and GPA scores. Then again, what is to prevent a dishonest cockroach such as yourself from giving false info?

    In all seriousness, if you want to attend law school, then go ahead and apply, Stupid. In fact, in your specific case, you should go to the most expensive law school that accepts your big ass. Make sure to take out plenty of student loans, take advantage of any foreign trips, and incur tons of credit card debt, too. People will think that you are cool, if they constantly see you eating in restaurants. Who knows? You might run into important local judges, prosecutors, and defense lawyers.

    Yes, go and purchase their meals for them. Order their favorite drinks, before the main course arrives. Then, they will realize how devoted you are to becoming an attorney. Hell, why don’t you try to wine and dine members of the state supreme court?! If you want to ignore the advice of others who have COMPLETED law school - and know what the hell they are talking about - then be my guest. But don’t cry when you end up with HUGE student loan debt, and anemic job prospects - as a result of your foolish decision.

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  36. Shouldn't have a problem if your graduate at the top of your class then, right?

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  37. To the piece of trash who posted on March 23, 2012 4:33 pm,

    You admit that the schools are accepting too many students. (The facts CLEARLY support this position.) Could you imagine if U.S. medical or dental students needed to graduate near the top of their class, in order to land decent employment, bitch?!?! Do you see medical student losing sleep because they did not ace their classes, moron? Likewise, how often have you seen people stress out, because they did not get into a top ten dental school, cockroach?! Pull your head out of your massive ass - before commenting on this topic.

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  38. Apparently, some piece of garbage at the Univer$iTTy of Arkan$a$ is sensitive about people posting the pigs' salaries online. Grow up, bitch.

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    Jul 18 2012 8:40am 130.184.236.172 1 action 10s google.com university of arkansas professor salaries

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  39. I wonder how many of the "advanced" degrees are law school grads ?
    http://rt.com/usa/college-graduates-minimum-wage-174/

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  40. Arkansas has TWO law schools (Fayetteville & Little Rock), providing good livings to a variety of professors, chancellors, etc - taking refuge from private practice - which is a form of genteel poverty. No dental school. Lots of struggling private practice lawyers barely making it.

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  41. Let's see, law degree or real estate license, law degree or real estate license ?

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  42. 38 years later 75 grad u ark law would I do it again. Probably not will retire this year private practice self employed Big family all finished college daughter lawyer all successful My only legacy. Tried lots of pro bono cases criminal they ordered us in old days hurt financially. Highlights vacations a few nice places Europe Hawaii beaches basketball tournaments. Murder trials. Downs dom rel petty crimes judges with iron dockets Made a decent living retire with small retirement decent savings still have va benefits give my life a c minus one divorce during law school just another small fish in small barrel. I did learn the law at u of a Fay but I studied a lot i am a good lawyer for whatever that is worth good luck to you all

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  43. I think what I appreciate most from this post is the blatant name calling and insults that have been thrown out by some. The last time I looked lawyers were intended to be professionals and treat each other with respect. I guess I missed the lesson in class where its okay to call my peers "lard ass" and "bitch."

    The fact is yes schools like UofA, Mississippi College of Law and countless other schools are not Tier 1 schools. Do not go there if you want to go get a job in big law. If however, you are from those states and want to remain in those states they offer you an avenue to practice.

    UofA graduates, both in undergraduate studies and law, are recognized locally and are held in high regard as most of the major partners at the firms within the state are alum.

    I did not go there and I have no dog in this fight. I just don't really care for bullies who think they are the end all be all.

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  44. ...it appears as though law school is as similar to any graduate school in Arkansas. I was offered a full-ride to UAM as a graduate student and learned nothing. Though I may seem more qualified on paper, I have gained very little except how to kiss ass. I recommend not attending UAM for any reason.

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