Monday, July 30, 2012

Appalling Fourth Tier Trash Pit: Appalachian School of Law


This is the actual name of the law school, and it is located in Grundy, Virginia. Yes, it is fully accredited by the cockroaches and dung beetles at the American Bar Association.

http://www.asl.edu/Admissions/Tuition-and-Costs.html

Tuition: Full-time students who begin their studies at this “world class” institution in 2012 will face a bill of $31,525 - in tuition and fees - for the upcoming school year. To be fair, the commode guarantees this bargain basement price for the duration of one’s time at the law school, provided that you do not take time off or drop to part-time status.

Total Cost of Attendance: According to this same document, indirect costs will add another $21,600 to the big-ass tab. The toilet explicitly mentions that car repairs and auto insurance are not taken into account, when determining COA. Also, apparently these students will be required to hand over $2,400 for a “summer externship.” For $ome rea$on, that is not considered a direct expense.

Seeing that ABA-approved diploma mills do not provide twelve month costs, we will need to prorate the costs for housing, food, utilities, transportation, and personal expenses. With these adjustments, indirect expenses will amount to $26,566. As such, we reach a total, estimated COA of $58,091 - for 2012-2013. Isn’t it nice to see someone providing “affordable legal education” to this dirt poor region?!?! 

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings/page+6

Ranking: Are you planning to apply to this “institution of higher learning”?! If so, you may want to learn about its reputation. US “News” & World Report lists Appalachian Sewer of Law as a fourth tier pile of corrosive garbage. Of course, Pussy Bob Morse prefers to employ the term “Rank Not Published,” for this group. Do you still want to enroll in this trash pit?

http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/clearinghouse/?school=appalachian

Pathetic Employment Placement: The bitches and hags at this school did not bother to publish this data on their site. Instead, we glean this information from the LST clearinghouse. According to this database, only 30.8% of this commode’s recent grads secured long-term, full time legal employment. By the way, this figure includes desperate solo practitioners. Who wouldn’t want to spend three years of their lives - and incur a mountain a NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt - for such outcomes?!?!

http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/clearinghouse/?show=compare&sub=costs

Projected Debt Owed at First Loan Payment: Evidently, this school did not furnish its average law student indebtedness - for its Class of 2011 - to US “News.” For this reason, we rely on a link from Law School Transparency. As the site notes, this does not take scholarships into account. Based on their calculations, LST estimates that a member of ASL’s Class of 2015 could face up to $188,321 in student debt for law school. If that potential outcome doesn’t make your heart skip a few beats, then you may need someone to check your pulse.

http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2011/541/743/2011-541743079-07b5ce8e-9.pdf

Faculty and Administrator Pay: Let’s see how well the pigs are doing, in stark contrast to their students and graduates. Relying on this private toilet’s 2011 Form 990, we can see that Taxpayer ID 54-1743079 had a mere $24,637,682 in end-of-year net assets - as of June 30, 2011. In the context of U.S. “higher education,” that is a small sum. No wonder this pile of excrement landed on Law School Death Watch.

On page 6, note that Clinton Shinn, dean of the law school, raked in $275,186 in TOTAL COMPENSATION. Yes, this academic received $243,566 in base salary, as well as $31,620 in estimated amount of other compensation from the organization and other related organizations. The following figures also pertain to total income:

Sandra McLothlin “earned” $124,571 as associate dean for academic affairs and “associate law professor.” Paula Young raked in $111,968 as an “associate professor.” Dale Rubin made $133,723, for teaching administrative law, state and local government, employment law, and corporate governance. Lastly, Charles Condon pulled in $139,241 - as the damn director of the law library!

On Campus Shooting by a Mentally Ill Law Student - on January 16, 2002 - Resulted in Three Dead Victims:

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/01/16/law.school.shooting/

Check out this CNN article from January 17, 2002. The piece was titled "Suspect in law school shootings arraigned." Please read the entire story. Here is one of the key excerpts, from this report:

"Peter Odighizuwa, 43, did not enter a plea. A judge ordered a attorney appointed for him and set a court date for March 21.

Authorities said that Odighizuwa, who had flunked out of law school, opened fire with a .380 semiautomatic handgun just after 1 p.m. ET Wednesday. 

One of those killed was the dean of Appalachian School of Law, L. Anthony Sutin, 42 - a former acting assistant U.S. attorney general.
  
Killed along with Sutin were another faculty member, professor Thomas Blackwell, 41, and a student, Angela Denise Dales, 33, according to state police." [Emphasis mine]

Conclusion: Appalachian Sewer of Law is a pathetic, vile stench pile. If you are working in a call center, and making $11 an hour, you should not give up that job in order to enroll at this toxic garbage heap. You are better off in that position than an unemployed, heavily indebted TTTT grad living in your mother’s basement. Look at the numbers, lemming. You will not have a shot of landing Biglaw, as a graduate of this mill. In fact, you will have difficulty finding legal work. Also, non-legal employers are not too keen on hiring JDs- as they typically view them as litigious or combative. This school is such a piece of trash, you may need to field questions such as “Did you earn your law degree from an accredited institution?” and “Is that an online school?”

97 comments:

  1. It's bad enough that places like this exist at all. I would say that to put it in one of the poorest regions of the country is criminal, except that I don't want to insult, say, Al Capone. Even he had higher ethical standards than that.

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    1. Hello, I graduated from this law school. Passed the bar the first time in Virginia along with SOME who went to UVA. I went there because it was close and I did not have to relocate. I thought the teaching was excellent. True i am self employed but that was the plan from the beginning. I make a living and that's more than i can say for a lot of poor smucks that went to other schools. And yes I have won my share of cases in court including a murder. Do your own research. It may not be for the person wanting a job in NYC but it worked for me.

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  2. Nando, this school forgot to factor in an additional $800 that the student will need to purchase a Kevlar vest. It seems that this school is such a pressure cooker that it could lead to a deadly competitive environment. See this tragic shooting by one of Appalachian Law's former students. I am sure the school administrators omit discussing this tragedy to their customers/suckers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting

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    1. I attended ASL, paying my seat deposit only 1 week after the tragic shooting. I have to say that the education I received here was excellent! Most of the professors were top-notch, and had excellent real-world experience. I only had one "ivory tower" type professor with no real-world experience practicing law. Our Criminal Law prof was able to point to one case cited to in our text that was one of her cases, in which she had convinced the Virginia Supreme Court to recognize a defense they had never recognized before, although many other states DID recognize that defense. Another professor amazed us with great details about the case we were studying - this was in Criminal Procedure, and she was giving us really detailed information that did not appear in the text. She finally admitted that she was the prosecutor in the case from which the appeal we were reading arose. That was how she knew so much about the case - she actually was the original prosecutor in federal court! I cannot imagine getting a law degree where professors cannot give you "real world" experience - "ivory tower" profs don't know HOW to practice law, just the theory of practicing. I had our "ivory tower" prof for Constitutional Law, and it was all based on his opinions of what Con Law SHOULD be, not on what the law actually IS! Many of the things I learned for his class had to be unlearned before I took the bar, because they were not really the law!

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    2. i would love to know just what that professor's name is?

      :)

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  3. The school also lists $1400 for a computer fee. Do they lease you overpriced laptops like the assholes at U of Minnesota's law school?

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    1. Last I heard, most professors had banned laptops from their classrooms!

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  4. AtheistATLLawyerJuly 30, 2012 at 9:22 AM

    Criminal scammers should be put in jail.

    This country is completely fucked.

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  5. Al Capone had more morals and integrity than these bastards...by far. It's not even a contest.

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  6. Why the fuck would anyone choose to go to a school named Appalachian School of Law? I don't feel sorry for these students. I wouldn't go to this shithole is tuition was $10,000 a year.

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  7. If you attend this school and want to practice in NYC, please note that this school had a 0% bar passage for that state (July 2011 First Time test takers) and a historical 40% bar passage rate for NY.

    http://www.asl.edu/Campus-Life/Resources-and-Services/Academic-Success-Program/Bar-Exam-Preparation/Bar-Results.html

    The school had an overall pitiful 63% bar passage rate in 2011. If you are hell bent on becoming a lawyer and were accepted by this deplorable school, you should consider that you may share the same fate as Misty Kennedy, a 2005 Appalachian law grad whose first time in court was at her own bankruptcy proceedings in March 2010. She graduated with $145,000 in debt from this putrid stinkhole.

    http://newsandinsight.thomsonreuters.com/Legal/News/2012/02_-_February/Law_grads_go_to_court_-_for_bankruptcy_protection/

    Come to think of it, 3 wasted years, 150K of non-dischargeable student loan debt, poor career prospects and being the laughing stock of the legal community is enough to make any sane person go on a homicidal rampage.

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    1. I went to school with misty tje school wAs a breeding ground for every bad lawyer joke back then and i see nothing has changed. Things actually gpt worse after the murders.
      As a former student i would not recommended thiz school.

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  8. Why isn't this shooting at an American law school big news? I mean, the sick fuck was a former studnet and he killed the dean and a professor.

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    1. Because the shooter was black.

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  9. @1:41PM

    A few reasons: 1) The shootings took place almost 10 years ago; 2) this school isn't newsworthy; and, 3) there was no sympathy factor for the victims (i.e., law professor).

    I didn't know about these shootings if it weren't for someone I knew who attended this school for 1 year and then transferred to a TTT. From what this person told me (mind you, she wasn't too bright), the student body was comprised of dumb people. Also, I hear Grundy, VA is a very depressing place (which may have also contributed to the shooting incident).

    I wonder if this school gave money to the other law student that was murdered. Or did the school just take her student loans and tell her family "tough shit." I am willing to bet that the subject of this shooting is censored at Appalachian and has been neatly swept under the rug. I think it is material misrepresentation not to disclose the shootings to prospective students. God forbid there is another shooting and if the school failed to disclose the earlier shootings, I would believe the school is egregiously liable for misrepresentation (especially since an incident like that could factor significantly in the final decision to attend this school).

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    1. It's really sad that people like to comment on matters that they know nothing about. Buchanan County is not a depressing place, and its citizens are not poor. Do some research!! They have some of the highest salaries around.

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    2. Please don't be defensive, I'm just curious: Buchanan County is listed as the poorest county in the state-from the resources of wikipedia. What industries are those residents in that have high salaries?

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    3. Buchanan County has the highest rate of depression and suicide in Virginia. I lived there for ten years and it is by far the poorest, most ignorant, and most prejudiced place I have ever lived in or visited. Only coal miners, law professors and school principals make decent money. Most residents are old, on social security, or are younger and collecting SSI because they are too sorry to work.

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  10. The school should be required to post this on their site. Oops. I forgot. Law schools don't give a shit about their students. If you look at the story, you will notice the school had provisional accreditation at the time of the shooting.

    And the ABA gave it full accreditation anyway. Nothing gets in the way of money. But even this is crazy. You'd think the ABA would have shut this school down.

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  11. The shooting also exemplifies the type of characters this school attracts. For example, not including the shooter, it is clear that there were two versions of how the student shooter was taken down. Both versions were offered by students who were at the scene, which means one version is false or perhaps both versions are false. So you see, either one faction of students LIED or both LIED. A school that accepts a psychotic murderer and liars is not a school I would be dying (no pun intended) to go to.

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    1. What about school shootings that happen all over the country. Does that also show the character of the kind of people there as well.

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  12. Here is a picture of the shooter/former law student at Appalachian Law:

    http://www.nigeriamasterweb.com/NigerianKills3.html

    Just one look at this man and I can tell he is mentally imbalanced. And this is the type of student that Appalachian Law accepts? Apparently he was struggling in his classes and decided to "even" the curve with his .380 pistol. At some point these schools have to held accountable for destroying peoples lives, to the point of leading to this type of tragic incident.

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  13. A couple of startling quotes from this story:

    http://www.nigeriamasterweb.com/NigerianKills3.html


    1) "Forty three(43) year old Peter Odighizuwa had been dismissed from the school on Tuesday for the second time. According to reports, he was upset about his failing grades and dismissal."

    2) "It has been gathered Odighizuwa had a history of mental instability that the school was aware of."

    So the school KNEW about this guy's mental problems and decided to re-admit him after he flamed out the first time. Of course, as long as he was paying tuition dollars, why not give this sick man a second or third chance, after all, that means more money for repeating Constitutional Law twice. I hope the family of the student that was murdered sued the hell out of this school for knowing about this loose cannon and letting him walk around campus, thereby endangering the welfare of everyone else. What these dispicable pigs will do for $$$. What is your take on this Nando?

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    1. The family of the dead student and the three students who were shot sued the school and settled for $1,000,000, the limit of the school's liability insurance. I think the school should have had to fork over so much more, out of its own pockets!

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  14. I read this whole post and as I was doing so, all I heard was banjo music in my head.

    Damn you Beverly Hillbillies!

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  15. Like 243 said, you can take one look at this man and tell that he is sick. And the school let him back in after he failed out. Talk about criminal behavior!

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  16. In Grundy, VA and the surrounding region, everyone gushes about this school and how its presence has revitalized the local economy. In fact, they were so impressed with this institution's model, they founded an "Appalachian School of Pharmacy" in the same vein. No one in the area really seems to ask where all the money originates, and anyone cognizant of the reality that it's merely federal wealth--channeled through individual debtors--doesn't speak up. Of course, the "money that saved Grundy" will be owed by deceived and unfortunate individuals for the rest of their lives, leading to inevitable default in some form, and having served only to enrich a few administrators and increase the number of fast food restaurants in one small coal town. There is simply no story in American history as absurd as the one playing out within this and similar educational institutions. It's a golden goose, and I commend your efforts to destroy it. Wonderful Blog.

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  17. Apparently, the murdered student's family and other students sued the law school in the wake of Mr. Odighizuwa's criminal plea bargain. Look at the AP story dated June 2004 at the bottom page of this link:

    http://murderpedia.org/male.O/o/odighizuwa-peter.htm

    Here are a few choice quotes from that story:

    1) "In lawsuits totaling $23 million, former students Stacey Beans, Rebecca Brown and Martha Short, and the family of slain student Angela Dales, allege officials at the Appalachian School of Law could have prevented the Jan. 16, 2002, attack."

    2) "They claim school officials were well aware Odighizuwa had a history of outbursts and spousal abuse, and should have realized he was a threat to the student body. They also allege Odighizuwa was allowed to re-enroll after he flunked a first time because he was one of the school's few black students."

    3) "Plaintiff's attorney Emmitt Yeary said Odighizuwa's presence boosted campus diversity, a quality that the American Bar Association considers before granting accreditation."

    4)"'You have a mad dog, you take it out of the population,' Yeary said. 'You don't let that mad dog continue to walk the hallways.'"

    5) "For the students, who have since graduated, their anger comes in part from what they characterized as a waning interest by prosecutor Sheila Tolliver in discussing the investigation."

    6) "'You have these feelings and nobody's telling you 'This is what happened,' Beans told The Associated Press. 'It makes you feel like even more of a victim.'"

    7)"The lawsuit has been met with cold stares in Grundy, a close-knit community so tightly wedged between Appalachian ridges that the Army Corps of Engineers just finished blasting away the mountainside to make more room."

    8) "The law school, founded in 1997, was viewed as a sign that times are changing in this old coal town. By seeking money, the shooting victims say former friends and professors now treat them with disdain.

    'It's like we've got the plague,' Brown said."

    MY OPINIONATED TRANSLATION: Grundy was sold on the idea that a law school would revitalize the local economy after the coal mining business dried up. Mr. Odighizuwa was recruited by Appalachian Law because he was Black and it would help the school meet diversity quotas to obtain ABA approval. The school kept Mr. Odighizuwa enrolled despite having flunked out and knowing about his violent and unstable behavior. They kept him enrolled so as to not jeopardize their impending ABA accreditation and endangered the safety of the law school community. After Mr. Odighizuwa pled guilty, everyone, including the Prosecutors' office tried to shove this incident under the rug and proceed as business as usual. Law students and victims sued the school and they were probably met with the faculty and town's scorn since the threat of closing down this school would cripple the local economy. In the end, money wins out over human life. Yes folks, this is the legal profession.

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  18. Here is another take on why the shootings never made national headlines (it was a cover-up):

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/diversity-vs-safety-contd-innocents-pay-price-in-appalachia-killings

    Notice how all the articles have a common conclusion: the school knew the shooter did not belong at the school. They knew he was mentally sick. They were just using him to boost minority enrollment to look good before the ABA. A doctor was even quoted in the article as saying the shooter was "...a walking time bomb." So what do make of all this? Well to me it is clear that this school prioritized the ABA accreditation above all, including the welfare of the students. If the school had kicked the shooter out permanently, it would have saved 3 lives but probably killed Appalachian Law School. So the administrators kept the animal enrolled just to get the ABA's approval. In other words, you can see how the school valued the other students' lives. If you ask me, this school is just as morally bankrupt as Penn State in light of the Sandusky fiasco.

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  19. The more I read about the Appalachian Law School shootings the more I am outraged, especially since the liberals are trying to pull the same shit now in the wake of the Aurora, Colorado shootings. It appears that the Nigerian law student who went on the shooting rampage was subdued by two other students who had guns (one was a police officer and the other was a military veteran). Well liberal officials at the school and the local powers that be tried to descredit this version of the story to promote an anti-gun sentiment when in reality it would appear that two law abiding citizens with guns put a stop to the murderous rampage. The government will try to use the recent shootings to get more gun control legislation passed. You know the sad part is, a gun didn't kill those 3 people at Appalachian law school. No, it was the administrators that let in a sick man who were responsible for those deaths. The Nigerian guy may have pulled the trigger but how did he get to that point? Nigerians are the master scammers right? 419 scams? Ok, so imagine the shame this Nigerian student felt when he realized that he was on the victim's side of the scam. He probably couldn't process that thought and he probably went beserk. I mean, can you or I wrap our heads around the image of a chicken killing and eating a lion?

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    1. I was there. He was not subdued by any students with guns, no matter what one of them said to gain his 15 minutes of fame.. He put down his empty gun and was tackled Ted Besen, a former police officer, and Todd Ross, another law student.

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  20. This law sewer has no reason to exist at all. Its placement numbers might be the worst in the US. In 2011 Appalachian had 91 graduates. They placed eight students into law firms of over 11 attorneys, government, public interest or state jobs. That's 8.7% who made it into the type of jobs that law students generally go into law school to get.

    If this shithole closed down, I am 100% certain that no one would ever even notice. At least some TTTT crappers serve metro areas that might need some sort of a law school. If Florida CoasTTTTal had 40 graduates a year, Jacksonville's legal market might be able to absorb them. Same for commodes like OKCU or UMKC or Third Tier Drake. Cut their classes down by 75 - 80% and they would have some reason to exist in their markets.

    Appalachian School of Law, however, has no natural job market for its graduates. Putting a law school in Grundy, VA makes about as much sense as putting a law school in Rugby, ND or Marquette, MI. Without student loans and lemmings whose desperation for the presTTTige of a law degree is enabled by those loans, this dump probably wouldn't be able to enroll five students per year.

    I don't know which law school will be the first to fully go under, but this one should be it. Applachian Sewer of Law is about as necessary as keypunch machines in the age of the iPhone, or TV vacuum tubes in the age of 3D LED TVs. It has all the prestige of a rusted 1972 Ford Pinto in an Audi dealers showroom.

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  21. @2:49,

    Thank you for posting that story. I was aware of the shooting, when I researched this fourth tier trash pit. However, I recognize that shooting victims may want to forget these events. After several posters have mentioned the school's role in this carnage, I have decided to update the main entry - in order to mention the triple homicide which occurred on this campus on Wednesday, January 16, 2002.

    Looking back, I should have included this rampage in the initial post. This information should not be swept aside - even if some people want to forget this incident. If this upsets victims of traumatic events, I can’t control another person’s response. It is more important to highlight this shooting, for those who are actually considering enrolling in this garbage heap. The school is a foul turd, and does not need deserve to have this event whitewashed or ignored.

    http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/01/16/law.school.shooting/

    Check out this CNN article from January 17, 2002. The piece was titled "Suspect in law school shootings arraigned." Please read the entire story. However, here are a few key excerpts:

    "Peter Odighizuwa, 43, did not enter a plea. A judge ordered a attorney appointed for him and set a court date for March 21.

    Authorities said that Odighizuwa, who had flunked out of law school, opened fire with a .380 semiautomatic handgun just after 1 p.m. ET Wednesday.

    One of those killed was the dean of Appalachian School of Law, L. Anthony Sutin, 42 -- a former acting assistant U.S. attorney general.

    Killed along with Sutin were another faculty member, professor Thomas Blackwell, 41, and a student, Angela Denise Dales, 33, according to state police."

    Here is a damning portion:

    "This was Odighizuwa's second attempt at law school. The suspect had flunked out last year, said Briggs, a physician who treated Odighizuwa for stress about six months ago.

    "I had no idea that it would affect him this way, however. He was a time bomb waiting to go off," [Buchanan County coroner Dr. Jack] Briggs said."

    Does anyone doubt that the commode KNEW about this bastard's psychological condition PRIOR to the shooting spree, which left three dead and injured three other victims?!?! In fact, the other links provided by readers show that the school had such knowledge. It appears that the morons in charge of this in$TTTTiTTTTion chose to give a dumbass - with a history of violence and mental illness - multiple chances at law school, in order to boost its minority enrollment. This school is a true beacon of integrity and ethics, huh?!?!

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  22. I am thinking that you could build the plot of a horror movie around Appalacian School of Law, a kind of law school version of Children of the Corn.

    Malign scamming hillbillies lure a bunch clueless college kids into enrollment. The trapped and isolated kids must survive and try to remain sane as they contend with demented killers, monstrous inbred locals, eccentric sociopaths playing bizarre mind games (law profs), and witch doctors muttering incantations (career services). The horrifying denouement is that all of these fiends turn out to be vampires or zombies or insects in human form, and need to feed of the lifeblood (loan money) of the kids to survive.

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  23. Speaking of movies, I recently saw a cult classic "RAD" from '80s. In the movie, the town is almost broke and the mayor greases a BMX racing organizer to sponsor a race in town in order to generate revenue for the town. I can imagine in the mid '90s there was a town meeting in Grundy, VA and someone stood up and said "I have an idea. Why don't we open a law school in the old abandoned junior high school. Running a law school is cheap and we can charge out of state students huge sums of money to obtain the prestigious JD diploma. Yeah, that's the ticket!" And thus, a law school was born. I find it sickening that this school opened only to sustain the local Grundy economy. In the process, the town feeds off of the student loan dollars and futures of unsuspecting college grads. What disgusting system.

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  24. Does Alice Jackson's "The Lottery" come to mind when you think about this garbage school located in this creepy little town?

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  25. This school is the epitome of bottom feeding. Why on earth would anyone want to attend this school? I mean fuck if you want to be a lawyer that bad, enroll in an online law school like Concord and stay in your town/city but why give yourself a 3 year sentence to Grundy, VA?

    On a related subject, this school displays how much it cares for its students when it accepts mentally unstable and criminal minded students. The schools will take the money and the student will develop a false sense that they are eligible to practice law if they graduate and pass the bar exam. WRONG. The shooter involved in this story would have probably never passed the bar and would have been denied entry by character & fitness. The school doesn't care at that point because they got paid.

    Long story short, I went to law school with a kid who was jailed in college for participating in a protest. The school accepted him and failed to counsel him on the possibility that he would not be admitted by character & fitness. Well, it took my classmate 3 years to finally get admitted after doing community service and shit. That is FIVE YEARS of OPPORTUNITY COST LOST DOWN THE DRAIN. And it took him another year to find a job since many prospective employers saw a red flag in the 3 year gap between law school graduation and bar admission. Like I said, the schools don't give a fuck about the students. You have Tulane law admitting a convicted murderer, Mercer admitting a homicidal maniac who allegedly beheaded a female classmate. I mean who are these fucking people they are admitting? It is clear these bottom feeding schools are just letting anyone in as long as they have credit with Sallie Mae. What a fucked up system.

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  26. ^Tulane was trying to show liberals the school's happy to take a second chance on that underrepresented portion of the population known as convicted murderers. (On a weird note, I think the asshole was convicted of brutally murdering a professor.)

    Like others said, Appalachian was trying to make its liberal ABA overseers happy (it was trying to boost min. enrollment in the hopes it would help the shithole get full accreditation.) After this shooting, the school was still granted full accreditation. This is fucking unreal. I know we're talking about the worthless ABA but that is still madness.

    Here's something that confuses me: why do liberal academics believe we should help everyone around the globe, but yet still think it's okay to financially ruin young Americans for life via college education debt?

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  27. "Here's something that confuses me: why do liberal academics believe we should help everyone around the globe, but yet still think it's okay to financially ruin young Americans for life via college education debt?"

    Because liberal academics get rich off of those students.

    "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."

    - Upton Beall Sinclair
    Jr. American novelist and polemicist, 1878-1968

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  28. It is in the middle of no where, who wants to spend three years in a small town in Appalachia? The reason the law school was created was that it would be an economic engine for the town, not that one was needed or to serve any other legitimate interest.

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  29. Education as a new sustaining industry

    Grundy is home to the Appalachian School of Law, which opened in 1997, and the Appalachian College of Pharmacy, which opened in 2005. Buchanan County chose Grundy as the site for the ASL to revitalize the town, which had been in a steady economic decline since the Flood of 1977. The presence of ASL has brought $12 million to the local economy, and is credited with construction of rental homes and the opening of additional businesses in the area. Additionally, ASL has successfully demonstrated the concept of creating institutions of higher education as an economic development tool.[5][6] This success led to the creation of the Appalachian College of Pharmacy, located in Oakwood,[7] which, like the Appalachian School of Law, was created as part of a continuing economic redevelopment effort. ACP is forecast to add $20 million per year to the local economy.[6]

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  30. WHen are they gonna open up the Appalachian School of Business?

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  31. visit: www.studentdebtwar.org

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  32. How long before the Appalachia School of Dentistry is up and running.

    I hear the founder of this school drove the Arkansas Chug a Bug in the Wacky Races back in the day.

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  33. http://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/09/07/colonel-sanders/

    Speakin' a good ole' Arkansas, that be remindin' me a mah time as a Arkansas lawyer. Let's overlook me losin' meh license to practice da law 'cause of a fight in the courtroom, shall we?

    Ennyway, I even sold Prudential insurance fer a while. I done damn surely did. I not too sure whut a chug a bug is. But I did bang some fat chick in Arkansas once. Back in them days, we referred to 'em as chub-a-lubs. One time, jus' fo' shits 'n giggles, I went down on her. 'n I done damn nearly gotdamn suffocated t' death. She didn' clean her asshole out either and she had a long ol' bush so that didn' help wit' mah predickament.

    Then I went sellin' my lovely recipe fo' chickin all 'round da muthafuckin' country and da rest as they say be history.

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  34. ^^OMG Colonel! I know what you said is kinda crude, but thanks for the laugh today. I was feeling really down and needed it.

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  35. Now we know why KFC comes with those moist towelettes. I guess the Colonel didn't have anything to wipe his chin off with after feasting on that white meat.

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  36. Fucking Colonel. Ruining another thread. Get rid of this troll. He spouts nonsense and doesn't contribute anything to the discussion. Fuck off.

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  37. "Well I went down to the Grundy County Auction
    Where I saw something I just had to have
    My mind told me I should proceed with caution
    But my heart said, "Go ahead an' make a bid on that!"

    --Song by John Michael Montgomery

    Strangely, it applies to women and attending law school in Grundy, VA.

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  38. http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/index.php?topic=33883.0

    Check out this Law School Discussion entry, from May 16, 2005, labeled “Appalachian School of Law. Anyone know anything about it or the town of Grundy?” Original poster “steve23ucsb” claimed to be from California, but wants to leave the state – yet seeks to eventually return to practice law in the .

    http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/index.php?topic=33883.10

    On page two, scroll down to this epic comment from LSD poster “kilroy55” – which was published on May 17, 2005:

    “Most of my family is originally from the Grundy, Prater and Deel area. As a matter of fact, my mothers family name is Deel, so if you go there you will meet tons of my relatives. Anyway, I am a little off topic. I hate going there. My grandfather decided to leave that hell hole of a town, and has only gone back for short family visits over the past 60 years. First, there is no easy way to get to Grundy. From anywhere outside of far southwest Virginia, you actually have to drive through West Virginia to get there. Techincally you are in Virginia, but the people there have more in common with West Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee. Second, the town is flood prone. I am not sure if they have done it yet, but there was a plan to move the entire town to higher ground. It tends to flood a lot. Third, you will not see signs of civilization. There is nothing, I mean NOTHING to do in the town. Fourth, it is all coal fields and rednecks. You actually see people that look like they are straight out of deliverance. They speak in an Appalachian dialect, not a southern accent. If you can understand anyone, I will be impressed, considering my grandfather left that town 60 years ago, and I still have hard time understanding the man. And he speaks better than most people from there. Finally, it is flat out depressing. If you can cope with poverty, and places that look like they are straight out of third world nations, then Buchanan (Pronounced Buh-Can-nun by locals, not like the former presidents last name) County Virginia is for you. I personally refuse to ever go back, and i skip family reunions that are located there because it is just that awful.”

    On May 24, 2005 at 9:16:37 pm, guest “Stanimal” provided this comic relief:

    “They sent me two flyers last week (I took the Feb LSAT). I believe one of them is now in my coaster collection.”

    Who doesn’t want to attend a fourth tier trash heap law school located in a rural Appalachian dump, where a former student/mental case murdered two faculty members and a fellow pupil?!?! At “only” $31,525 per year – in tuition and fees – you too can take advantage of this TTTT offer!

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  39. This school gives Cooley a run for its money as the worst dung heap law school in the world. Speaking of "global solutions," Nando, are you aware that the ABA is having its annual meeting very shortly. On the discussion block will be whether to accredit foreign law schools in China and India. Yes, very soon you too will be experiencing the wonderful globalization project of the ABA and compete with foreigner who obtained their ABA for rupees on the dollar. Isn't the ABA an altruistic organization?

    One final note about Appalachian Law School and Grundy, VA. The people in Grundy, VA may be inbred dumb hillbillies but they sure outsmarted a lot of people who took the bait to attend law school there. I would not even hire the top student at that place since I met someone who was the number 8th student there after her first year and she was a fucking moron. The fact that the ABA accredited this place should indicate what direction it will go with foreign schools. Get ready to compete with Habib Singh, Esq. you dumb motherfuckers.

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  40. ^Would you hire the top student at Appalachian if she gave great head?

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  41. Spanish girls give very good head, the best, and they always swallow. Filipino are my favorite. The most beautiful girls at the Pacific Rim. But I digress, a top law student at the Appalachian would be hard pressed to outperform a Latino in going down competition.

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  42. White chicks give the best head. They know how to worship a man's penis and they like to swallow your load.

    signed,

    a black guy

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  43. Well looks like Concordia University School of Law in Boise is up and running! Time to rip apart another trash pit!

    http://www.concordialaw.com/

    The world does not need another law school.

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  44. Hey Colonel, I didn't know you liked to dip your drumstick in white meat and gravy.


    http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e86050c415/kfc-loves-gays-with-john-goodman

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  45. http://www.asl.edu/About-ASL/Accreditation.html

    “Accreditation

    ASL is fully accredited by the American Bar Association. As such, ASL graduates are eligible to sit for the bar examination in any U.S. state or the District of Columbia.*

    * The Appalachian School of Law has been fully approved by the Council of the Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar of the American Bar Association since 2006. The Section of Legal Education may be contacted at 321 North Clark Street, Chicago, IL 60610 or by phone at 312-988-6738.”

    You can call these cockroaches, and ask them why they fully accredited this dung heap. Don’t expect a candid answer from these pieces of trash.

    http://www.asl.edu/About-ASL/Mission-and-History.html

    “Mission & History

    Our History

    ASL, founded in 1994, began with the pioneering vision of local lawyers and leaders who wanted to bring a law school to Central Appalachia. Regional officials quickly embraced the idea and formed a steering committee to get the ball rolling. ASL's first class of 71 students was admitted in August 1997.”

    Notice how this garbage pit does not mention the significant events that took place at the law school on January 16, 2002?!?! Shouldn’t that be included under this heading? After all, how often do mentally imbalanced law students KILL the dean, another “professor” and another student on campus - with a gun?!

    “Our Mission

    ASL exists to provide opportunity for people from Appalachia and beyond to realize their dreams of practicing law and bettering their communities. We attract a qualified, diverse and dedicated student body, many of whom will remain in the region after graduation and serve as legal counselors, advocates, judges, mediators, community leaders, and public officials. We offer a nationally recruited, diverse, and well-qualified faculty, a rigorous program for the professional training of lawyers and a comprehensive law library. The program emphasizes professional responsibility, dispute resolution, and practice skills. The ASL community is an exciting, student-centered environment that emphasizes honesty, integrity, fairness, and respect for others. We also emphasize community service and staff and faculty development. At the same time, we are a full participant in our community, serving as a resource for people, the bar, and other institutions of the region. (adopted by the Board of Trustees, March 14, 2000)”

    Anyone who is over the age of ten and still dreams of practicing law and “fighting for justice” needs to be committed to a mental hospital.

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  46. More and More the legal industry resembles "The Hunger Games", Complete with some luckless people coming from Western Virginia coal country.

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  47. Oh come on, give the Colonel a break. He brings some trashy rant humor to an otherwise depressing topic. Some of his prior posts were epic.

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  48. Appalachian Law School is a certifiable shit heap. Anyone who defends this place should have their head examined.

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  49. I attended ASL from 1985 through 1988. Yes, the school administrators suck. However, the Professors are great and do a good job preparing students for Bar Exams. 80% of my class passed the Bar Exams they sat for. I passed both the Massachusetts and Texas Bars on my first attempts, and I was below the 30th percental in the class rank. However, prospective students need to look at the costs and benefits of attending any Law School. And again, the administrators suck and don't seem to give a sh** about the students.

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    1. That's impossible...the school didn't admit its first class until Fall 1997. I attended 2005 to 2007. Worst years of my life, grade manipulation, horrible isolation, suicidal thoughts, developed asthma and upper respiratory complications from coal dust...no, I'm not kidding. They left me heavily indebted, and feeling stupid.

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  50. Appalachian Law School is a piece of shit. Look at where it's located, people. Think you'll come out making lots of money? Anyone claiming to make big bucks after graduating from this shit heap must have 5 star blow job skills.

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  51. Appalachian School of Law is working hard to remake itself into a top-notch energy and environmental law program. While people on this site sit around and whine, there are students at the school busting their hind-ends to boost the school's reputation nationally. Yes, things may not have been as great in the past but the school now has a new Dean dedicated to making the law school a great place to be. Recently the school's Environmental Moot Court Team competed in the championship of the Pace Law National Environmental Moot Court Competition: http://law.pace.edu/2013-winners. You get out of it what you put into it.

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  52. To the waterhead above, who posted today at 11:53 am,

    No one gives a damn if a fourth tier trash can has a "top-notch" energy or environmental law program, Bitch. By the way, the only way to make a decent living in those areas is to work FOR the industry. In the end, these programs are mere feel good exercises. If you expect to reform then energy pigs and polluting cockroaches, then you are destined for constant futility.

    Furthermore, non-legal employers do not care if your school's EnvironmenTTTTal MooTTTT CourTTTT TTTTeam competed in a meaningless fake court championship. Hell, those HR departments do not give a rat's ass if you were on said team, mental midget.

    In fact, MOST legal employers are not that impressed by your "ability" to argue pretend cases. Perhaps, a toilet law firm might take a look at you - due to this activity. Have you ever noticed that TTTs and TTTTs tend to have stronger advocacy programs than their first tier counterparts? Guess which ones will have a MUCH better chance of landing nice law gigs, Waterhead?!?!

    You can pack that environmenTTTTal law program up your silly ass. Make sure to do the same, with that marvelous moot, i.e. fake, court team accomplishmenTTTT.

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  53. I agree with EVERYTHING Nando has said about ASL. All facts. ASL will never be top-notch. The only thing that pathetic institution does for its students is to put them in deep debt. That sad fact is the truth.

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  54. Appalachian School of Law is a steaming shit heap.

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  55. And if you go there thinking you can transfer, think again. The 1L year is pretty much a pass/fail system designed to stop transfers although the school claims its to relieve stress. Its hard to transfer with grades labeled proficient.

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  56. To the piece of trash who posted on April 3, 2013 at 10:45 am,

    You need to perform some basic research, Bitch, BEFORE posting idiotic drivel on this blog. To wit:

    "It's really sad that people like to comment on matters that they know nothing about. Buchanan County is not a depressing place, and its citizens are not poor. Do some research!! They have some of the highest salaries around."

    Check out the link below, waterhead:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchanan_County,_Virginia

    "Buchanan County is a county located in the U.S. state of Virginia. As of 2010, the population was 24,098. Its county seat is Grundy. As of 2009, it was the poorest county in the state of Virginia and one of the 100 poorest counties in the United States, when ranked by median household income." [Internal citations removed]

    Did that penetrate your tiny gray matter?!?! Or did the two inch thick candy shell between your skull and brain prevent you from absorbing that information?

    I noticed that you also commented at 10:46 am today. Learn some basic grammar and punctuation. Your 10th grade writing "skills" do not help your pathetic, weak-ass "argument."

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  57. In fact, the law school is even worse than every one above says. I lived in Grundy for ten years and it is even worse than any one can imagine. Go to law school if you must, but do not go there. Even with a full tuition ride that it gives to top LSAT takers to boost its stats, it is not worth it.

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  58. Sorry guys! ASL is a wonderful Law School.
    "THE VIRGINIA STATE BAR YOUNG LAWYERS CONFERENCE WILL PRESENT ITS 2013 R. EDWIN BURNETTE JR. YOUNG LAWYER OF THE YEAR AWARD TO MR. CHRISTOPHER FORTIER, ESQ., A GRADUATE OF ASL."

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    1. http://givetoasl.blogspot.com/2013/06/asl-graduate-christopher-r-fortier.html

      Of course, this commode is happy to take the opportunity to beg for more money. The Appalachian Sewer of Law Development Office runs a blog entitled "Give to ASL." Does anyone believe that the trash pit is going to use the majority of any donated funds towards student scholarships?!?!

      On June 4, 2013, Taylor Burgess posted an entry labeled "ASL Graduate Christopher R. Fortier Named Young Lawyer of the Year." Take a look at this portion:

      “While the [Professional Development Series] is still quite new and its effects aren't yet known, there is no doubt that Chris's vision and hard work have led to the creation of a useful practice resource for the YLC's members,” [Young Lawyers Conference "president" Brian P.] Charville wrote. “Chris simply has enviable abilities to brainstorm and implement programs that serve our profession well.”

      Let me guess: it is your contention that Chris Fortier never would have developed those managerial skills had he not attended Appalachian Sewer of Law. Typically, smart people accomplish a good deal, regardless of where they attended college or graduate school. They simply need the academic “credentials” to gain entry into a given field, first. Quit applauding your pathetic employer or alma maTTTTer, Bitch.

      http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings/page+6

      For your information, Appalachian School of Law is still ranked as a FOURTH TIER PIECE OF GARBAGE! Yes, that is quite impressive, correct?!?! You forgot to mention that fact, in either your 10:38 or 10:48 post.

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  59. Congratulations to Mr. Chris Fortier AND APPALACHIAN SCHOOL OF LAW!! You are BOTH winners!

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    1. http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings/page+6

      US "News" & World Report lists Appalachian Sewer of Law as a FOURTH TIER TRASH PIT, in its 2014 rankings edition! Clearly, something is wrong you mentally, if you believe or think that this school is a "winner." Get your head examined, tool.

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  60. I havent seen this many sour grapes since my last visit to walmart. Sounds like someone wanted to be an attorney but just wound up with a jd. My suggestion is
    spit out those grapes, get your head out of your ass, get some oxygen in your lungs and take the bar again (if they will allow you).

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  61. To the piece of garbage who posted on July 30, 2013 at 3:08 pm,

    I have never taken a bar exam, tool. During my third year of law school, I scored high enough on the personal responsibility portion of the test that I could have sat for any bar exam in the nation. Don't make idiotic assumptions, cockroach.

    The next time you head to Wal-Mart, make sure to pick up your mother's STD medication. Don't forget to grab the fat bitch some dog food, too. Otherwise, she'll be barking at you all night.

    The fact remains that Appalachian Sewer of Law is a foul, putrid "institution of higher learning." Here is a pop quiz for you, waterhead: How many U.S. law schools have been the scene of a shooting spree where a dean, faculty member and student were killed?!?!

    Quit crying because someone pointed out that your "school" is a festering trash heap. It is sad to see a supposed grown "man" getting butt hurt over this reality. Instead, you should be focused on the fact that painfully few students and grads will end up with decent employment, with their Appalachian JD. You are dismissed, Bitch.

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  62. Nando, what are you basing your opinion on. Personal experience? Did you fail out of ASL, or did you not get in? Just curious.

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    1. If you were curious - or knew how to read - then you would seen the following description, on the right side of the blog:

      "I am a graduate of Drake Law School. I am employed in a non-lawyer position. My goal is to educate people who are considering law school as a viable option. Do not go unless you are FULLY aware beforehand that you may end up with six figure student loan debt and no job prospects. Furthermore, you will find it very difficult to find work as a non-lawyer, as your J.D. will make you overqualified for most non-law positions."

      I also received a full-tuition scholarship to attend Third Tier Drake, bitch. Applachian Sewer of Law is a true trash pit. I did not apply to your garbage school. Hell, I never even heard of Appalachian SOL until I researched the dung heap for this blog entry, waterhead. I have relied on the sources above to reach that basic conclusion, cockroach.

      For your benefit, mental midget, I have included some of the links again:

      http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings/page+6

      As you can see, this pile of garbage is still rated as a FOURTH TIER WASTE SITE, by US “News” & World Report. What a great “accomplishment,” huh?!?!

      http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/01/16/law.school.shooting/

      Head to the CNN article entitled “Suspect in law school slayings arraigned,” from January 17, 2002. How many U.S. law schools have had a student who flunked out – and then returned to the campus to kill a fellow student, the dean, a “professor”?!?! The fact that the pieces of trash at the American Bar Association subsequently gave full accreditation to this place shows that the pigs do not give a damn about the students.

      Look at the placement numbers, as well, Idiot. Anyone who defends this cesspool does not have the mental capacity of a three year old chimpanzee. Your mother must be very proud of you, dolt.

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    2. I love when someone can not make a good arguement or lacks the intelligence to add to a discussion starts calling people names. No wonder Nando does not practice law

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  63. So the stated mission of your blog is "educating" people who are considering law school as a viable option. You are a graduate of Drake, you got a full ride there, and you passed the MPRE with a high enough score to sit for any bar in the nation.

    I'll admit, I'm not familiar with Drake other than a visit to their website, just as you admitted earlier in this series of comments you had never heard of ASL until such time as you "researched" it for this blog entry. Looks like a pretty good place...and I can tell you ASL was awesome too.

    During my time at the Appalachian School of Law, I learned how to practice from people who actually had career experience as lawyers, not just ivory-tower academics. I gained valuable friendships. I even had a great experience with the school's Alternative Dispute Resolution program, which taught me how to settle cases effectively, helped me get mediation credentials, and even landed me speaking gigs for mediation programs in other states.

    Speaking of those professional responsibility courses--we were at least taught a modicum of respect for those in the profession and to conduct ourselves with civility at ASL. Now granted, a high MPRE score doesn't necessarily mean you learned anything from your ethics course--it just means you retained enough information to pass a test. I passed the MPRE too...and I have avoided calling you a "bitch," "dolt," "waterhead," "idiot," "moron," "pig," "piece of garbage," or any other disrespectful name. That's called an "ad hominem attack," and frankly those kinds of comments get you nowhere in a respectful discussion. Nor do they educate anyone.

    Same thing with calling people "stupid bastards" and "fools" like you do on your front page. Al Swearangen was an awesome villain, by the way. Loved "Deadwood."

    The deaths of Sutin, Blackwell, and Dales were all tragic events that happened long before I arrived at ASL, and the memory of that day still lives on in the minds and hearts of those who knew and worked with those individuals. Don't you think it's a bit disingenuous, however, to associate some sort of criminal liability against the school because one student had an issue that sparked a tragic event? That's pretty faulty reasoning. The same applies to your suggestion that the "pieces of trash" at the American Bar Association accrediting ASL means its members "do not give a damn about the students" in the wake of that event.

    Frankly, I think it's pretty shameful for someone to take the deaths of three individuals in a tragedy and use it as the basis to strike out against an entire school. I think it's pretty rude of someone and speaks ill of your "educational" methods to call those who disagree with you "bitch" and "waterhead" (I'd go on with the full list, but I really don't have the energy in me to redo your full screed of obscenities), and I'd ask how that furthers any rational discussion.

    But maybe I'm an anomaly. I have, according to your rationale, less than the mental capacity of a three year old chimpanzee, I'm a practicing attorney, and I am quite happy with my life. And everyone's entitled to their opinion.

    People are entitled to know about yours, too. So I'm sending a copy of this blog post--and your blog address--to the entire faculty and staff at Drake University. I'm sure they'll be happy to see a successful graduate such as yourself taking time to trash other law schools and trumpet being a graduate of their program in the same breath.

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    1. Amazing Response!! I graduated from UVA Law and have met many ASL Students/Grads, Most were intelligent, professional and all around excellent individuals. The others were fun loving partiers...but competent attorney's nonetheless:)

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  64. Appalachian is such a shithole. Why is anyone debating this? It's fourth tier, isn't it? That tells you right there it's a worthless school.

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  65. Pieces of shit defend the school because they graduated from this 'school'. No real school would take them in. So they feel insulted when someone points out the school is garbage.

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  66. I personally know people with a "J.D." from ASL and most of them really don't know their dick from their elbow. Passing a Grundy, VA test does not equate being able to litigate in real life.

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  67. I'm pretty sure the person above who defended ASL is a faculty member pretending to be a graduate. Please, people who actually attended are ashamed of that shithole.

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  68. I went to this school and pass the bar. I graduated 6 years ago and I have never been fully employed by a firm. My resumes get tossed and laughed at. I have debt out the wazoo and because I have a law degree, no one will hire me in another field. I make around 27k a year as a process server.

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  69. I scored in the 150's on the LSAT and graduated with a 3.26 GPA so TTT and TTTTs are solid acceptance options. Until today, Appalachian School of Law was at the very bottom of my list.

    So I had nothing to do and decided a drive to Grundy, VA would provide a scenic backdrop to my 80's rock list and put a face to a school I know will accept me. As I arrived in Grundy the sun was still out and everything seemed ok. I then took the right turn onto highway 83 and, after driving for 20 minutes, began realizing that a) I must have passed the school and b) the sun is going down. These two occurrences scared the living shit out of me for the simple fact that turning around in any of the narrow driveways of the sideroad mobile homes was, simply, not an option. I found an abandoned parking lot and turned around. It was now dark. Wearing a buttondown and khakis shouldn't make a law student feel as if he's dressed for confrontation. I wished that I had just put on the ole' Wranglers and found an old NASCAR t-shirt from my bottom drawar, but I digress. After 20 minutes of blind steering around the tighest roads ever encountered I realized my mistake. I thought the damn law school was just a part of the neighboring Baptist church. I didn't even stop. The air emitted a sort of eeriness you would expect from sleeping next to a river you just buried a dead hooker in. I was hungry and the Taco Bell across the road, next to a mega-Walmart with a parking deck, looked new. I had to piss and went inside. Everyone stared at me with a hungry look in their eyes and pursed lips that were just waiting for me to go into the bathroom before they would utter "city boy." I was shaking as I pissed and my hands are now starting to shake just thinking about it. I decided drive-through was for me. I wanted to get out of that hell-hole as fast as I could. The entire ride home was filled with regretful longings for a re-do of undergrad so I wouldn't have even felt prompted to visit that scary little mountain town.

    I only write this to warn those of you thinking of making the same trip.

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  70. Check out the guy 3rd from the bottom. Is this a joke?!

    http://www.asl.edu/JD-Program/Externship/Externship-Testimonials.html

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  71. Sounds like someone is insecure. Puts me in mind of a bully in school that tormented others b/c he needed to feel better about himself.

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  72. To the piece of trash calling itself "bullet06":

    I laugh when someone cannot correctly spell the word "argument." Hell, you don't even know basic punctuation at the end of a sentence. By the way, waterhead: 10 year old kids have better writing skills. Get a life, Bitch.

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  73. ASL is a shithole. When you drive by it you can even catch the whiff of failure.

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  74. As a student who attended ASL back in 2001-2002 I can only feel sorry for the manifest arrogance and ignorance of many of comments posted here.

    First of all before ASL fully ABA accredited it was a struggling law school in a very poor part of the US. Part of its mission is to increase the number of lawyers in the area. Ever heard of black lung? There were many people who worked the coal mines and while they were making the mine owners rich were harmed in the coal mining process and were never justly compensated.

    ASL is what you make of it. It is certainly not for everybody...the rugged, mountainous terrain, the small town Appalachian environment, and the actual study of law makes ASL a very unique place.

    And I am absolutely sickened by the comments made about the shootings back in 2002...Dean Antony Sutin was a Harvard Law School graduate and was my advisor. Tom Blackwell was a graduate of Duke Law School and was my contracts professor. I tried to blow him once (during office hours) but he wouldn't have any of it.

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    1. Sutin & Blackwell were very intelligent and honorable men. I personally knew both of them. The Shooter was mentally disturbed from day one. Being from Africa and raised in a completely different culture placed a lot of strains on him. He shouldn't have been readmittd to ASL but it showed that people bent over backwards to try to accommodate him and his family. Professors, Students and Staff Members put in money to buy him a car.. get his family housed and fed. Everyone watched out for his family. He had 3 young boys and a wife and the community and schools efforts to help him was not enough. Mistakes were made and lives were tragically lost. Now ASL is caught up in the declining economy of the region and USA. Another tragic story has began to unfold.

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  75. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. I like to toss salads of old male law profs.

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  76. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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