Monday, January 30, 2012
Profiles in Blatant $elf Intere$t: Law School Industry Shill Shawn P. O’Connor, “President” of Stratus Prep
O’Connor Feels That Unemployed Lawyers Can Go Into Journalism or the Arts:
Shawn P. O’Connor authored a pile of filth, for US “News” & World Report blog “Law Admissions Lowdown,” under the headline “5 Unique Career Paths for Law School Grads.” This garbage appeared on January 23, 2012:
“After graduating from law school, you may think that practicing law is your only career option. However, some of today's law school grads, by choice or temporarily by necessity given the recovering legal market, are securing incredibly diverse careers outside of the law. The unique paths taken by these graduates reinforce the versatility of a law degree, which brings with it a plethora of marketable skills.
Should you attend law school and decide at some point in your career that you want to do more than simply practice law, you may enjoy numerous opportunities across a wide variety of industries.” [Emphasis mine]
This ass-clown lists the following five alternate careers, for those JDs and lawyers who cannot find legal employment: journalism, real estate, nonprofit management, entrepreneurship, and the arts. Guess what, moron? One typically is not required to earn/purchase a Bachelor’s degree in order to become a realtor, business owner or artist. Journalism is another glutted market. Ask the legions freelance writers who are scraping by on intermittent work, bitch. Lastly, why spend seven years in a classroom – and incur SUBSTANTIAL amounts of NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt – to work for a nonprofit?!?! How many people simply walk into a management position, upon graduation, with those agencies or organizations? Here is one excerpt from his idiotic article:
“Journalism: Countless well-known reporters, broadcast journalists, and TV personalities studied law as a precursor to a career in journalism. Geraldo Rivera, host of Geraldo at Large on FOX News Channel, graduated from Brooklyn Law School. Jeff Greenfield, former CBS News senior political correspondent, went to Yale Law School. Cynthia McFadden, coanchor of ABC News's Nightline and Primetime, graduated from Columbia Law School. Finally, Star Jones, former host of The View and contestant on Celebrity Apprentice, obtained her juris doctor from the University of Houston Law Center.
What has allowed these individuals to make the jump from law to media? In law school, you learn to synthesize ideas, communicate clearly, and quickly get to the heart of an issue—all skills that are critical in journalism.”
Charisma, charm and connections account for their success, far more than a damn law degree. Plus, the public enjoys controversy and sensationalism. See Crooklyn Law alum Geraldo Rivera’s broken nose incident, from his TV trash talk show Geraldo. For $ome rea$on, Shawn forgot to mention that Jerry Springer earned a law degree from Northwestern University.
O’Connor’s Background and Financial Interest in the Subject:
“Shawn P. O’Connor, Esq. is the founder and CEO of Stratus Prep, a New York City-based test preparation and admissions counseling firm. For nearly a decade, he has counseled thousands of law school applicants, many of whom have been admitted to the nation’s top law schools including Yale, Harvard, and Stanford. O’Connor is an honors graduate of Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School and is an attorney admitted to the bar in New York and Massachusetts.”
As you can see from the US “News” blog piece, Shawn is “president” and founder of Stratus Prep. According to the company’s website, Stratus Prep is in test preparation and admissions counseling industry, for business, law and graduate school applicants.
Currently, you can enroll in an LSAT course for only $1599. You also have the option of LSAT tutoring, at the hourly rate of $180. Plus, there is an LSAT tutoring 30 hour package offered at merely $4,320.
Hourly law schools admissions counseling will run you $250. However, the admissions counseling package will cost $3,250.
“Law School Bootcamp covers everything you need to know to succeed in your first year of law school, the most important year to ace your classes.”
This product can be purchased for a mere $1,799! With such a personal financial stake in the matter, we can see why O'Connor wants to describe a JD as “versatile.”
Reality Versus O’Connor’s “Argument”:
According to NALP’s Class of 2010 National Summary Report, a total of 44,258 graduates competed for 28,167 jobs requiring bar passage. Keep in mind that not all of those slots were traditional attorney openings. Basically, ABA-accredited diploma mills produced more than 1.57 graduates, for each available lawyer - or law-related - position. How ethical, huh?!?!
On June 27, 2011, the Economix blog of the New York Times featured an article entitled “The Lawyer Surplus, State by State.” The figures were calculated by Economic Modeling Specialists Inc., which focuses on employment data and economics. Based on their research, every state except Wisconsin and Nebraska is producing too many lawyers. Perhaps EMSI should determine how many lawyer-journalists each state needs.
Conclusion: In the final analysis, this “man” doesn’t care about the typical student's law school outcome. He simply wants more people to register with LSAC, apply to law schools, and enroll in his prep programs. At the prices listed above, you can see why he wants prospective law students to believe that a law degree is versatile. Shawn P. O’Connor simply wants to instill confidence in others – without regard to the prevailing job market. What a beacon of integrity, right?!?!
Posted by Nando at 5:25 AM
Thursday, January 26, 2012
Tuition: Missouri residents attending this Dumpster on a full-time basis will pay $16,730.40, in tuition for the 2011-2012 school year. This equates to $557.68 per credit hour. The school notes the following: “Non-resident fees are an additional $558.06 per credit hour and apply to all applicants who do not qualify as Missouri residents.” At 30 credit hours, tuition would run to $33,472.20 for out-of-state UMKC law students, for 2011-2012. Who says that public schools are cost-effective?!?!
Total Cost of Attendance: According to this same page, total COA for in-state, full-time UMKC law students will amount to $39,024 - for 2011-2012. Based on the info above, this figure will reach $55,766, for non-resident, full-time law students at UMKC, for the current academic year. By the way, unlike many other commodes of law, this school at least has the decency to explicitly state that it calculates costs, on a nine-month basis.
Common sense dictates that law students will require living expenses, for the entire twelve month calendar year. As such, total COA for a Missouri resident attending this dump on a full-time basis will be $44,964.40, whereas full-time, non-resident law students will face a total tab of $61,706.20 - for 2011-2012 alone.
Ranking: If you are eagerly anticipating attending this law school in Fall 2012, you may want to turn away for a minute. Robert Morse and the hags at US “”News” & World Report rate the UniversiTTTy of Missouri Kansas CiTTTy Sewer of Law as the 113th greatest and most magnificent law school in the nation. What an elite institution, huh?!
Embarrassing Employment Placement and Starting Salary Statistics: This PDF states that 72.9% of the UMKC Law Class of 2010 was employed or seeking another degree, within nine months of graduation! This is based on an alleged 100 percent response rate. Keep in mind that this figure includes grads working in non-legal positions, i.e. insurance adjusters, school teachers, baristas, etc. Yes, this school is clearly worth paying $16,370.40 or $33,472.20 in yearly tuition, right?!?!
The mean salary - for those in the private sector - is listed as $57,897. The school published a figure of $44,198 as the mean salary, for those working in the public sector. Furthermore, the school notes that 19 members of the Class of 2010, working in private practice, ended up as solo practitioners. Additionally, 41.3 percent of this cohort went to work for firms with 2-10 lawyers. Before any apologists cite the 96.9 passage rate, for UMKC taking the Missouri bar exam, know that your “argument” is undermined, by the figures above. In the end, bar passage does not equal legal employment - which is the point of attaining a law license.
Average Law Student Indebtedness: USN&WR lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the UMKC Law Class of 2010 who incurred debt for law school - as $90,767. Then again, only 84 percent of this dung heap’s particular class took on such toxic debt. This figure does not take undergraduate debt into account. Who wouldn't want to take out such monstrous debt for a law degree that is overpriced, based on student outcomes?!?!
When you enter the amount of $90,767 into the FinAid student loan calculator, at 6.8% interest, the results show $213,026.26 over 361 monthly payments. Enjoy making your $590.10 payment each month. By the way, at this level, you will end up taking out private loans, which means that a fair amount of your debt will be repaid at a much higher rate - perhaps 8.5 percent or even 10 percent. Do you still have your heart set on practicing law and seeking “justice”?!?! Keep in mind that the average listed does not include debt from undergrad.
“It is estimated that you will need an annual salary of at least $71,007.60 to be able to afford to repay this loan. This estimate assumes that 10% of your gross monthly income will be devoted to repaying your student loans. This corresponds to a debt-to-income ratio of 1.3. If you use 15% of your gross monthly income to repay the loan, you will need an annual salary of only $47,338.40, but you may experience some financial difficulty. This corresponds to a debt-to-income ratio of 1.9.”
Conclusion: The University of Missouri Kansas City School of Law is a third tier commode that provides its students and graduates with anemic employment prospects. Would you willingly take out $95K-$135K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt, for a chance to earn $45K-$55K per year?!?! If you attend this dump, that is exactly what you will be doing. Take your debt from undergrad into account, as well.
On November 3, 2010, psychotherapist and former Biglaw associate Will Meyerhofer succinctly sums up the law school model:
“For the record, a law degree is not “versatile.” Being a lawyer amounts to a strike against you if you ever decide to pursue another career.
So why do people keep insisting it’s an “extremely versatile degree”?
A bunch of reasons.
Law schools are in it for the money. Teaching law doesn’t cost much, but they charge a fortune – made possible by not-[dischargeable]-in-bankruptcy loans. That makes each law school a massive cash cow for the rest of the university. Money flowing from the law school pays the heating bill for the not-so-profitable Department of Neo-Structuralist Linguistics.” [Emphasis mine]
Have fun in financial hell, if you choose this TTT path.
Posted by Nando at 6:22 AM
Sunday, January 22, 2012
Tuition: In-state, full-time, first year law students attending this dung pit will be charged $17,784 in tuition – for the 2011-2012 academic year. Second and third year law students, from Missouri, will only pay $17,180. Non-resident, full-time, first year law students will be hit with a $34,000 tuition bill, for 2011-2011, whereas second and third year, out-of-state students will have a tuition bill of $33,144.
Estimated Total Cost of Attendance: According to this same page, the school estimates that a full-time, in-state first year law student will face $34,326 in total costs, for 2011-2012. The commode lists this figure as $50,542, for first year, non-residents attending this trash pit, on a full-time basis, for the 2011-2012 school year. Keep in mind that these hags only consider nine month living expenses.
Recognizing that actual law students will require twelve month living costs, we can reach a more accurate total COA. In the worst-case scenario, i.e. full-time, first year law students, Missouri residents will be looking at a total expenses of $39,299, for the current academic year. Non-resident, full-time law students will be burdened with a comprehensive tab of $55,515 – for 2011-2012.
Ranking: With such a hefty price tag, this school must have a sterling reputation, in legal and academic circles, right?!?! Well…according to US “News” & World Report, the Univer$iTTTy of Mi$$ouri Sewer of Law is the 107th greatest, most magnificent and wonderful law school, in the entire nation!! It shares this distinction with two other toilets, i.e. Third Tier Quinnipiac and the University of Mississippi. Their mothers must be very proud.
On April 16, 2010, scamblogger Angel, author of BIDER, posted the following entry, documenting the fall of this commode in the USN&WR rankings.
“Today is the big day. U.S. News and World Report released law school rankings for 2011. My alma mater has slipped 5 spots since I've graduated. At least I went to a T1 school (and according to me, that means #1 through #50)--but some schools have dropped quite a bit more. Take University of Missouri University School of Law, for example. Apparently, that school has slipped from 65 to 93. Woah!!! That is quite a dive. To me, it's still a second tier toilet, but it's a big deal to MU Law Students. I'm just wondering why this happened[.]” [Emphasis in original]
Based on the above post, this school has fallen 42 spots in this idiotic rankings scheme. That is truly impressive, huh?! By the way, why the hell does tuition keep increasing, when the job prospects are shrinking?!?! Anyone with an IQ above 80 can figure this out. The ABA – and its approved dung heaps - simply does not give a damn about the students, or recent graduates. The pigs will continue to defend their practices.
Alleged Employment Placement Rate: The school provides a chart, measuring employment “placement” rates over the last several years. For $ome rea$on, the trash can did not include overall median or average starting salary data. According to this graph, 82.3% of the Class of 2010 was employed, within nine months of graduation. Furthermore, only 78.5 percent of the commode’s Class of 2009 found jobs, within nine months of earning their JDs. Yes, those numbers certainly justify such high tuition, right?!?!
Average Law Student Indebtedness: US “News” lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the Univer$iTTTy of Mi$$ouri JD Class of 2010 who incurred debt for law school - as $69,046. Fully 90 percent of this cesspool’s particular class took on such toxic debt. This figure does not take undergraduate debt into account.
Law Faculty Salaries: Let’s see how well the “educators” are doing, in juxtaposition to the debt-strapped students and graduates. Collegiate Times furnishes this data, for this school. Keep in mind that the following figures – for 2009 – may not include bonuses, nontaxable benefits, or other compensation. Dean Ralph Lawrence Dessem raked in $230,420 in salary. (Apparently, that is not enough money to him to get his yellow teeth cleaned, at the dentist’s office.) Rodney J. Uphoff “earned” $214,680, as “Elwood Thomas Missouri Endowed Professor of Law” and Director of the University of Missouri South Africa Educational Program, while now-deceased James Richard Devine, then “David Ross Hardy Professor of Law” made $193,403. Does anyone with an ounce of integrity or honesty want to defend this wealth transfer program, from debt-soaked students to well-off, failed lawyers masquerading as “professors”?!?!
“Established in 1993, the Missouri Environmental Law & Policy Review (“MELPR”) is an academic journal published three times a year. MELPR focuses on regional and national environmental issues of interest to practitioners and policymakers. While under the umbrella of environmental law, the journal’s broad scope often includes: agriculture, criminal and civil litigation, property, administrative, maritime, and other areas of law.”
As a student of this public stench pit, you will have the unique opportunity to write onto the “world-renowned” Missouri Environmental Law & Policy Review. Imagine how impressed women will be, when you tell them that you are Notes Editor of MELPR . Potential employers are only group that will surpass your coeds’ enthusiasm. [Disclaimer: women and employers will actually continue to ignore your sorry ass.]
Conclusion: The University of Missouri Sewer of Law is an overpriced pile of waste, that feeds off of taxpayer assistance and the dreams and aspirations of naive, prospective students. You DO NOT NEED to incur an additional $70K-$100K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt, in order to have a chance at practicing law. The “scholars” and administrators are paid up front, in full – while YOU, the student and graduate, are stuck paying the bill, with interest, for the next 25-30 years. Furthermore, the law school does not bear any of the risk of these loans. This helps explain why ABA-accredited schools continue to enroll too many students, and pump out FAR TOO MANY grads each year – for the available number of attorney positions.
Posted by Nando at 6:33 AM
Tuesday, January 17, 2012
Tuition: Louisiana residents attending this public dung heap, on a full-time basis, will pay $17,473.75 in tuition and fees – for the 2011-2012 school year. Out-of-state, full-time LSU law students will be charged $33,799.75, in tuition plus fees – for 2011-2012. These rates apply to first and second year law students. Those enrolled in their third or fourth year will receive a lower tuition bill. By the way, isn’t it nice that the commode gives all of its students a discount of $0.25 for the Spring Semester?!?!
Ranking: As the “flagship” law school in the state, surely this school has a stellar reputation in the legal and academic communities, right?!?! Well, US “News” & World Report rates the Louisiana State University Paul M. Hebert Law Cesspool as the 84th greatest, most prolific, and amazing law school in the United States. In fact, the school shares this ranking with ten other trash pits.
Supposed Employment Statistics: The dung heap claims that 92 percent of its Class of 2010 was employed, within nine months of graduation. To wit:
“LSU Law graduates typically succeed in securing employment within nine months of graduation and bar passage. Some 92% of graduates from 2010 were employed within nine months. Starting salaries ranged from $59,568 to $160,000 for the students reporting for the Class of 2010.”
The overall average starting salary was listed as $59,568. Keep in mind that this information pertains to those who bothered to provide their income data. Those earning small salaries are much less likely to report their earnings, to their law school. The stated minimum salary was $23,920. For $ome rea$on, the dung heap does not consider the incomes of unemployed grads, in this category.
Average Law Student Indebtedness: USN&WR lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the LSU Law Class of 2010 who incurred debt for law school - as $69,462. A mere 79 percent of this trash heap’s particular class took on such foul debt. This figure does not take undergraduate debt into account.
Faculty and Administrator Pay: Since this is a public school, we cannot rely on Guidestar, for this information. Instead, we head to the worthless LSU Reveille:
“These figures reflect the non-classified 2010-2011 annual salaries of University employees as of July 1, 2010. Note that employee salary is not necessarily the same as employee pay; the latter can be affected by other factors like bonuses.”
The statement above is correct, regarding the fact that these figures do not represent employee pay. For instance, Les Miles, head football coach at LSU, is listed as earning a $300K salary, for 2010-2011. For $ome rea$on, the Lousiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College does not furnish the salaries of its “law professors.” Since these pigs claim to be performing a “public service,” they should not be ashamed to provide their incomes. Oh wait. That public service line is simply another lie.
Let’s take a look at one bastard employed by this commode:
"I think [ABA head cockroach William T. Robinson III] is absolutely right," said Paul R. Baier, a law professor at Louisiana State University. "The dire economy is obvious. In law we have a doctrine: You are assumed to know the law. I'd add to that and say you must know the economy." [Emphasis mine]
Check out the gray pig’s LSU faculty page:
“LEGAL DRAMA - LSU law professor Paul R. Baier, in the role of Professor Richard Henry Jesse, left, and Luling's Justice Harry T. Lemmon as Chief Justice E. D. White, right, starred in Father Chief Justice, a five-act play written and directed by Baier. The play was designed to preserve the memory and life of Louisiana's own Edward Douglass White, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States, 1910-1921. Father Chief Justice was performed in the Colonnade Theater at the LSU Union on March 25 and also featured Judge Mary Ann Lemmon, Chief Judge William V. Redmann, Garland Rolling, Harry Rosenberg and David Madden."
If you take a look at Baier’s 20 page resume, you will notice that the academic reveres judges, especially members of The Supremes. Isn’t it sad that such an educated man puts these rats in black robes on a pedestal?!
This drivel is entitled “What Else You Can Do With a Law Degree.” Here are a few of the fields mentioned: artists; actors; directors; scientists and inventors; media personalities. The pigs forget to mention that you can also wipe your ass, with a law diploma from LSU.
Conclusion: The Loui$iana $TTaTTe Univer$iTTy Paul M. HeberTT Law CenTTer is a sweltering, second tier scat pile. You DO NOT NEED to incur an additional $75K-$100K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt, for a chance to practice law in the backwaters of Louisiana. The “professors” will continue to make a fat salary; you do not need to personally go into financial hell, in order to pay their mortgages.
Posted by Nando at 7:04 AM
Friday, January 13, 2012
Tuition: Full-time, in-state students at the University of Kentucky Commode of Law will be charged $18,306 in tuition, for the 2011-2012 school year. Out-of-state students attending this public stink pit, on a full-time basis, will pay $31,716 in tuition - for 2011-2012. Notice how the pigs list the charges on a per semester basis. Mandatory fees add another $1,006 to the tab.
Recall that Cockroach William T. Robinson III stated that he sold off his Corvair, so that he could pay his first semester tuition and books, which cost roughly $330 in Fall 1968. The bastard graduated from this law school in 1971. How many current students could sell their car to pay off their tuition, plus books?!?!
According to this CPI Inflation Calculator, $330 in 1968 would equate to $2,145.28, in 2011. You might argue that this refers to purchasing power. However, this should also apply to the consumer good known as “higher education.” Wouldn’t it be nice to pay $4,290.56 in tuition, as an in-state student at this toilet, rather than $19,312 in tuition and fees?!
Ranking: The Ass-Clown who currently heads the ABA is a graduate of this public toilet. Surely, that must bode well for the school’s ranking, right?!?! Actually, Robert Morse and the hags at US “News” & World Report rate the University of Kentucky COL as the 71st most exhilarating and phenomenal law school, in the land. It shares this honor with the following “prestigious” institutions: Loyola-Chicago, Northeastern, UNLV, Oklahoma and Pittsburgh.
Purported Employment and Starting Salary Statistics: The swine claim that 97.5 percent of the Univer$iTTy of KenTTucky JD Class of 2010 was employed, within nine months of graduation. To wit:
"UK Law graduates consistently outperform national employment averages. For example, based on information relating to the Class of 2010, 97.5% of the Class of 2010 who were seeking employment were employed or pursuing additional education within 9 months following graduation. The other 2.5% were either unemployed and seeking or their job status was unknown."
According to this dung pit, the overall median starting salary - for its Class of 2010 - was a whopping $45K. The median salary, for members of this particular class working in law firms, is listed as $55K. The school notes that 63 percent of 2010 grads who reported being employed supplied salary data. For prospective law students, this means that these figures are skewed upward. Remember, those making decent money are happy to furnish that information to the school. Those who are selling women’s shoes are typically too embarrassed to report their situation.
Average Law Student Indebtedness: US “News” lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the Univer$iTTy of KenTTucky’s Law Class of 2010 who incurred debt for law school - as $49,059. Only 86 percent of this dung pile’s particular class took on such toxic debt. This amount does not take undergraduate debt into account.
Faculty and Administrator Salaries: Let’s see how well the academic gluttons are doing, in comparison to the debt-soaked students and graduates. According to this database, which does not specify the year, David Brennen, dean of the commode of law, made $256,875 in salary, for his role. Rutheford B. Campbell, “James and Mary Lassiter Professor of Law,” raked in $165,607, while Eugene R. Gaetke “earned” $150,109, as “Edward T. Breathitt Professor of Law.” Plus, who can forget Robert G. Schwemm, the “Ashland-Spears Disinguished Research Professor”?!?! The old fart received $161,905 in annual pay.
As a student at this garbage heap, you can write onto the Kentucky Journal for Equine, Agriculture, and Natural Resources Law!! Law firms with a focus on “equine law” will appreciate your “experience,” right?! Here is a partial description, from the commode:
“The Kentucky Journal for Equine, Agriculture, and Natural Resources Law (KJEANRL) is a multi-disciplinary journal of law, science, and policy published twice annually by the University of Kentucky College of Law. KJEANRL is edited entirely by students of the College of Law. A forum for articles by practitioners, academicians, policy-makers, and other professionals throughout the United States and abroad, the Journal welcomes original manuscripts focusing on the legal, policy, and ethical issues related to the environment, natural resources, land use, and energy.”
Conclusion: The University of Kentucky Commode of Law is an overpriced pile of trash, that provides its students with anemic job prospects. The school can claim a 97.5% employment “placement” rate if it wants, but it also lists a rather low starting salary, for recent grads. “Higher education” is supposed to be an investment in one’s future. People with an IQ above 75 typically want a positive return on their investment. You DO NOT NEED to incur an additional $55K-$80K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt, for a chance to practice law - and maybe earn $45K in annual salary.
Posted by Nando at 5:38 AM
Monday, January 9, 2012
The Subject’s Background:
When examining a subject, it is best to look at the specimen under the microscope. In this specific case, one should use a high-powered instrument.
“Robinson is a graduate of Thomas More College and the University of Kentucky, College of Law, where in 2004 he was inducted into the Alumni Hall of Fame. He served as Chair of the Kentucky Chamber of Commerce, Chair of the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport Board, Chair of the Cincinnati USA Partnership for Economic Development and is Founding Secretary-Treasurer of the Tri-County Economic Development Corporation (Tri-ED).”
Keep listing your “credentials,” Ass-Clown. As far as I am concerned, you can wipe your haunches with those “honors.” If you don’t have any integrity, then who gives a damn how many boards and committees you serve on?!?!
On August 9, 2011, Robinson’s employer proudly announced that he was named to lead the ABA:
“Frost Brown Todd is proud to announce attorney Wm. T. (Bill) Robinson III has been named president of the American Bar Association (ABA).
“I am extremely honored and enthusiastically accept the responsibilities of representing you as your next president,” Robinson said in remarks to the ABA’s House of Delegates. “I am determined to lead this great association with commitment, clarity and continuity, as we work together to guide the future of our profession.”
What makes this morally bankrupt organization so great, William?!?! It is CLEAR that this body doesn’t give one damn about current students, recent grads or small firm and solo practitioners. You can shove that “commitment, clarity and continuity” platitude up your ass, William T. Robinson III.
As you can see, William T. Robinson III, was named to Kentucky Super Lawyers, in four consecutive years, i.e. 2008-2011.
ABA Head Swine Shoves His Hoof in His Snout:
On January 4, 2012, the Chicago Tribune published a piece, by reporter David Ingram, entitled “ABA head has little sympathy for jobless lawyers.” Here is the opening paragraph:
“Young lawyers with huge educational debts and no jobs in a depressed U.S. legal market should have known what they were getting into, the president of the American Bar Association said on Wednesday.” [Emphasis mine]
The article continued:
“[William] Robinson, a lawyer in Kentucky, said anyone entering lawschool has already completed an undergraduate degree or more.
"It's inconceivable to me that someone with a college education, or a graduate level education, would not know before deciding to go to law school that the economy has declined over the last several years and that the job market out there is not as opportune as it might have been five, six, seven, eight years ago," he said.”
Apparently, this cretin fails to understand that the ABA law schools have consistently published misleading and distorted employment and starting salary statistics, for years. By the way, Bernard Madoff’s defrauded investors included highly educated, connected, wealthy and powerful people. I guess they should not receive any consideration or compensation either, correct?!?!
Other Commentators Have Already Grilled This Pig for His Boar-like Behavior:
On Thursday, January 5, 2012, Staci Zaretsky kicked Robinson in the face, with an ATL piece entitled “The ABA Thinks It’s Your Own Fault If You’re Poor and Unemployed.”
“That’s funny, because it’s inconceivable to everyone else that someone at the head of the American Bar Association would not know before deciding to make such a statement that law schools have been painting pretty pictures of an extremely opportune job market for the last decade, despite the declining economy.”
On January 5, 2012, Paul Campos, law professor at the University of Colorado, also backhanded this swine across the snout and jowls:
“I'm personally looking forward to seeing Wm. T. (Bill) Robinson III's testimony at the upcoming Senate hearings on the subject of, among many other fascinating topics, whether the current president of the ABA is as crooked as a three-dollar bill, or just remarkably stupid.
This isn't as easy a question to answer as you might imagine. It's true that it's hard to believe anyone with an IQ over 95 could say the things Robinson says in this interview (really, go read it). On the other hand, I've learned over the past couple of decades that there are some really, really dumb people in this business, some of whom, through the mysterious processes by which Persons of Quality rise to Positions of Leadership, are actually running important aspects of this thing of ours.” [Emphasis mine]
Willfully Ignorant William T. Robinson III Gets His Panties in a Bunch Over “Attacks”:
“These are difficult times in legal education," Robinson said, referring to the tight legal job market, skyrocketing costs and criticism from The New York Times and elsewhere. "The attacks are not fair, in our opinion."
Imagine the effects of unjustified, skyrocketing tuition and the shrinking legal job market on debt-strapped, recent law grads, Porky.
Conclusion: In the last analysis, William T. Robinson III, is a greedy pig who does not want to see the gravy train come to an end. As such, this highly-educated idiot will do and say whatever it takes, in order to detract from the main issue. In short, he does not want anyone taking a skeptical look at American “legal education.” He is a confidence man who needs to build up the trust of naïve and ignorant students, in his organization. In comparison, used car salesmen don't burden you with six figures of NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt.
Posted by Nando at 5:58 AM
Wednesday, January 4, 2012
Tuition: Ohio residents attending this garbage pit, on a full-time basis, will pay $22,204 in tuition - for the 2011-2012 school year. Full-time law students - from several Northern Kentucky counties, and using the Graduate Metro Rate - will “only” be charged $22,444 in tuition, for the current academic year. Non-resident, full-time law students at the Univer$iTTy of CincinnaTTi will be slapped down with a tuition bill of $38,720 - for 2011-2012.
Total Cost of Attendance: The festering dung heap estimates that living expenses will add another $18,336 to the big-ass tab. Of course, the rats are only counting nine-month living expenses. Seeing that law students face twelve month costs, this would amount to $23,935.
Applying this figure, resident full-time law students will have a total COA of $46,139 - for 2011-2012- while GMR, full-time students will be looking at a COA of $46,379. However, the estimated COA - for the current school year - for out-of-state law students attending this school on a full-time basis totals $62,655. Who says that a “legal education” isn’t a wise investment?!?!
Ranking: Based on the prohibitive cost of attendance, this school must have an excellent reputation, correct?!?! If you feel that way, then you should leave the room for a minute. You will notice that Bob Morse and U.S. “News” & World Report rank the University of Cincinnati Commode of Law as the 61st greatest, most mesmerizing law school in the United States. The trash pile shares this distinction with the following five dung pits: Case Western Reserve University, Georgia State, Chicago-Kent, Seton Hall, and TTemple.
Supposed Employment and Starting Salary Statistics: The toilet claims that 96% of its Class of 2009 was employed, within nine months of graduation. Take a look at the fecal matter that the school deposited on its web site:
“Since 2001, Ohio has been one of the top 10 states for entry level employment. 96% of the Class of 2009, known to be seeking, were employed or enrolled in a full-time degree program within 9 months of graduation. An office of attorneys with over 15 years of collective practical experience assists students individually with career placement.
The overall median salary was $80,000 for those reporting salary information. Similarly the median salary for those entering private practice was $115,000.”
Does the school realize that law students are not exactly interested in working in dead-end, low-paid positions?!?! NALP and the ABA consider licensed attorneys “employed” if they are selling insurance or tending bar. However, who the hell goes to law school with the intent for such a TTT outcome?
Average Law Student Indebtedness: US “News” lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the Univer$iTTy of CincinnaTTi’s JD Class of 2010 who incurred debt for law school - as $58,455. Furthermore, 89 percent of this commode’s particular class took on such foul debt. This amount does not take undergraduate debt into account.
Faculty and Administrator Salary Info: Let’s head to the Buckeye Institute's database, to see how well the “professors” are doing, in comparison to the debt-soaked students. Louis D. Bilionis, dean and “Nippert professor of law,” made $257,500 in base salary - for 2011. Dean emeritus Joseph P. Tomain took in $243,688 in base salary, for 2011. That is a nice arrangement, huh?!?! Paul Caron, “Charles Hartsock professor of law” and author of TaxProf Blog, received $191,209 in base compensation, for 2011 whereas Michael E. Solimine, “Donald P. Klekamp professor of law,” raked in $166,389 in base pay, for the same year.
On February 2, 2010, the Global Observatory blog featured a piece on this cesspool, under the label “Travesty: A Law School That Wants its Students to Save Money.” Here is an excerpt:
“The University of Cincinatti (sic) School of Law, a second tier public institution, is apparently quite desperate to recruit high caliber students. According to an email sent out a short while back, the admissions office is offering tips on obtaining residency status and saving money…”
Conclusion: The University of Cincinnati Sewer of Law is a grossly overpriced, low-ranked pile of garbage. The state of Ohio is home to nine ABA-accredited law schools. The general area is referred to as the rustbelt, for a reason. Drive through the region, and count the number of condemned, abandoned factories - and boarded-up homes and small businesses. If people are not gainfully employed, how in the hell will they be able to afford the services of a lawyer?! You may have your heart set on being an attorney, but you need to rely on your gray matter - in making this decision. Ask yourself if giving up three years of your life to learn “legal theory” - and taking on an additional $60K-$80K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt - is the best choice, for your financial future. If you are employed at a decent job, then do not even consider attending law school - let alone a middling, trifling one located in an economic dead zone.
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