Wednesday, March 20, 2013

First Tier Hot Waste: University of California Hastings College of the Law

Tuition and Fees: According to this document, California residents attending this trash pit on a full-time basis will be slapped down with a bill of $46,806 – for the 2012-2013 school year. Out-of-state, full-time law students at UC Ha$ting$ will have a telephone pole rammed up their asses - as the poor fools will be charged $52,806 - for 2012-2013. Who says that public schools offer much better tuition rates?!?!

The commode does provide some good news, for non-residents: “Tuition for the 2013-2014 academic year is estimated to be $39,500* with no distinction made between in-state and out-of-state residents.”  These students will continue to be financially raped, but to a slightly lower extent.

Ranking: At such ridiculous prices, one would expect this school to be an elite institution. However, US “News” & World Report rates the University of California Hastings Commode of “the” Law as the 48th greatest, most wondrous, amazing and fantastic law school in the entire country. In fact, this garbage pit shares this prestigious distinction with the following four schools: Florida State, Southern Methodist, Tulane, and the University of Houston. I’m sure that the cockroaches are bursting with pride at being included on this list.

Employment Placement Statistics: Review this PDF file pertaining to the toilet’s Class of 2011. There were a total of 411 graduates, in this cohort. Of that amount, employment status was known for 401 JDs. Only 320 members of this class were working, within nine months of graduation. This represents a “placement” rate of 79.8 percent. What an amazing school, huh?!?! 

Furthermore, 238 grads were employed full-time, within nine months of receiving their overpriced law degree. This equates to 59.35% of the 401 graduates for whom employment status was known. A total of 244 Hastings JD - from the Class of 2011 -were working on a long-term basis. Conversely, 76 grads were employed part-time - which amounts to 23.75 percent of the fortunate segment of this class.

Take a moment to reflect on this admission, from the commode:

“39 of these short-term positions were funded by UC Hastings - all of them were part-time.” [Emphasis mine]

Try re-paying your student loans with that arrangement. Of course, the primary purpose is to artificially inflate the ABA diploma mill’s job “placement” rate.

Average Law Student Indebtedness: US “News” lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the UC Hastings JD Class of 2012 who incurred debt for law school - as $114,736. Hell, 89 percent of this commode’s unfortunate 2012 class took on such toxic debt. Keep in mind that this figure does not include undergraduate debt. It also does not take accrued interest into account.

Last Year, the Commode Announced a “Voluntary” Reduction in Class Sizes:

On May 2, 2012, Elie Mystal wrote a solid ATL entry labeled “The Hastings Gambit.” Take a look at this opening:

“This week, the law school press has been focused on the UC Hastings College of Law. Hastings Law Dean Frank Wu announced that his school would be voluntarily reducing its enrollment by 20 percent over the next three years.

The mainstream press has noticed, too. The Wall Street Journal did an article about Wu’s attempt to “reboot” legal education, and the Dean gave a long interview to USA Today.

Hastings isn’t the first law school to reduce enrollment, but the school’s move is more significant because of the rhetoric Dean Wu is putting behind it. Wu is making the philosophical case against huge law school class sizes in this challenging job market.

But is it all about changing the nature of legal education, or is Hastings being pushed into these moves by the familiar forces of disappointing employment statistics, and a desire to climb up the U.S. News rankings? Critics have said that the school isn’t “voluntarily” doing anything.

Then again, if Hastings is doing something objectively good for prospective students, maybe it doesn’t even matter how the administration came to the decision…” [Emphasis mine]

Sure, the dean of this trash heap is doing this of his own volition - and I voluntarily chose not to enter the San Francisco Giants spring training, as a second baseman. Apparently, the hags cannot tell the truth.

Conclusion: Avoid this first tier toilet - which is currently barely hovering above the second group – at all costs. You simply DO NOT NEED to incur an additional $125K-$170K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt, for a chance to practice law in the legendarily-glutted California market. This is a free-standing, public toilet. If you have a career, or a good job with benefits, do not walk away from that position – in order to take your chances at law school. If you have an addictive personality or a severe gambling problem, then take your sorry ass down to the roulette and craps tables in Vegas. Bet all of your money on red, if you want. At least, in that scenario, you can claim bankruptcy. Plus, you will not piss away three years of your life on the task.


  1. Thank you for continuing to preach the word!

  2. Hastings is a perfect example of how unreliable and ridiculous the USN&WR rankings are. For example, in the early '90s, Hastings was ranked in the top 30 law schools. I know several people who went to Hastings based on the T30 ranking who later saw the school fall into the 50-60 ranking range when they graduated 3 years later. So you see, the USNW&R rankings are just a rearrangement of chairs on a sinking ship.

    I know 3 people who attended this school. They are barely earning a living and regret the Hastings experience as the school is not nationally well regarded and is outclassed in the region by Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA and USC. When UC-Irvine was announced, I thought the regents were going to close Hastings as another law school in the UC system would be superfluous. I was wrong. The UC system is a joke. Right now, you are paying more for a public education than you would for a private one.

    You would be crazy to go to law school today. When I think of the legal market, I think of a roaches climbing over each other to get to the top. Trust me, the only good outcomes out of Hastings are the law professors and administrators who all have generous compensation and pension benefits that resemble corporate golden parachute packages. Who pays for this? Ostensibly the suckers who buy into the 48th best law school hype but in reality, us taxpayers get saddled with the misguided decisions of our youths to attend this filthy cesspool of a school.

    1. Yeah, those "pensions" will go away for the profs at any private law school when it shuts down. State schools like Hastings will go on, though - those pensions will be paid for life, even if it means firing up the national printing press to bail out the Golden Turd State.

  3. 411 grads for one one year. No wonder California has such a horrenduos over supply of lawyers.

  4. 43,000 for base tuition for in-state residents to go to the 4th-best public school in the state?! Holy cow, these people are scamtastic. And that's not including LIVING EXPENSES for going to school in one of the most expensive cities in America.

    Apartment rates in that neighborhood seem to run around $1-2k/room. I just found a Studio apt. for 1500/mo, a room-share opportunity for 800/mo, and 2Brs seem to run in the 2k-4k range.

    Living expenses alone will probably run you $75k at this place. You couldn't even service THAT debt on what the average Hastings grad winds up with, I imagine, making this PUBLIC SCHOOL cost-prohibitive even on full ride scholarship.

    1. Thank you Nando! I wanted to emphasize this last point as I was once a young lost boy who still thought the Castro was going to be cool.

      According to many per-capital calculations, SF is the most expensive real estate in the country, moreso overall than Manhattan. Yet, it has ghetto public transportation but the most expensive car insurance rates. Also, there are substantially less legal jobs in the bay area, most taken by the Boalt grads. For those who travel to the jobs down south...they must contend with thousands of higher ranked grads from UCLA and USC and I forget the other higher ranked SoCal factories...not to mention the zillion low ranked skools.

  5. $46,000? Goo' lard dat's a lotta money! Fuck. y'all can put down a lil' ol' sum of $25 fuckin' grand for da inishul franchise fee fo' one o' mah chickin 'stablishments. Da total investment be plenty mo' than dat. But dat done damn gives ya a good ideamajiggy 'bout how fuckin' expensive does be da legal edumacayshun.

  6. Is this one of those schools where the professors are opening up law firms on the campus for graduates who cant find jobs and charge tiny rates and represent the poor? You have 15-20 unemployed grads under the thumb of a professor who at the University of FuckMe Law Firm for $20 hr while the professor supervises you for free but still gets his 300k university salary. The school raises its percentage of employed grads so it can enroll a future set of idiots and probably makes more profit off the legal fees it generates by paying grads to work for what they would make working at Chik Fil A.

    These scam artists will always be evolving faster then their fraud can be exposed.

  7. Well Nando, Lawprof is in the news a little now with this chestnut:

    Sort of anticlimactic, but good enough I guess.

    I wonder why the OLSS army of journalists didn't pick up on the article yet.

    1. Does he think that Paintroaches who live at home with their parents should go to law school?

      They should stop posting on blogs like they keep promising to do, that much is clear.

    2. Thanks for the link. Campos is such a fricking menacing hack. The ONLY people speaking on behalf of the movement should be people like Scott, Calico Cat, Nando, BIDER, Subprime, etc.


  8. You know something? Fucking prostitutes have higher morals than the typical law school professor.

  9. Actually @3:14PM is rather funny and ridiculous by now. A persistent anon hater that seems obsessed and consumed with hatred for me and obviously very worried about more posting by the person he is obsessed with stalking.

    Also it is very uncanny that the anon hater knows which posts are mine, although sometimes he gets it wrong :)

    I wonder why, and what the motive is?

    Look, I promise to not post anymore. Satisfied?

    I absolutely promise. I won't post anymore.

    Ok? You coward?

    1. LOL, not half as funny and ridiculous as you must've looked as you told the police about all the "crimes" that had been committed against you.

      Did you tell them your favorite story about your Gramps as well? I couldn't do it; I would feel like a complete jackass complaining about it to them out loud. I'll bet they wished they could arrest YOU for wasting their time.

      My "motive" - since you ask - is to convince you to "lose your excuse" and get a government job - then have your loans discharged in 10 years. I want you to be a roach that's made out of solid steel, rather than a puddle of painty tears and vaginal secretions.

      And yes, I'll be satisfied if you actually keep your promise - for once. Your first test: don't reply to this comment. Don't worry about getting in the last word. It's much easier after you pass that first test.

      Instead of posting here, start applying for government jobs. Don't be a snob - NO govt job should be beneath you.

  10. The law school pigs are getting desperate. Their A+++ pay and benefits packages are contingent on a certain number of students enrolling. That number is now decreasing.

    Once again, like this blog said a million times (and starry-eyed lemmings still ignore it): Cash is king. The admins only care about bringing in more $, which is why admissions standards are non-existent now.

    Pretty soon the adcoms will be visiting homeless shelters to round up some new 1L's, members of an "honorable" profession.

    Thank goodness so many woke up to this charade. Unfortunately many more ignore common sense and drop 200k for a school because "Their Dogbite law clinic is ranked 6th in the nation"

  11. @Dan 4:36PM

    I was reading your blog, and it looks like you have inherited my anon troll. Good luck with him! He loves people that are not anon and tries to wear them out.

    I will miss him in some ways. But whatever else he might have called me from behind his anon curtain, he never called me "man boobs" and/or "man boobs full of milk or poop milk" or something nutty or other like that.

    And he is a staunch advocate of compounded interest usury and 20% collection costs on a defaulted loan.

    My guess is that the troll is against the Petri idea, which would place a cap on SL interest at 50% of the original principal balance:

    Also Dan, I wouldn't be too hard on Campos. He did all he could, and it is perhaps many years too soon to really tell what kind of impact any or all of the blogs have had.

    All I know about the Conservatives today is that Rush and Hannity (on the radio) are constantly hammering home the message that there is 16 trillion in debt, and of course they are faulting the Dems. for that.

    1. His blog is being trolled? Why, is someone filling up the comments page with roachy poems and sex stories about his grandparents?

      So much for your latest ultimate promise. Don't look for a government job today or anything; they might actually give you one and then try to make you do some work. The nerve of them!

    2. Time elapsed since the latest promise to stop posting ever: 9 hours 55 minutes

    3. When was the last time you made a student loan payment anyway?

  12. Nando, please do UCLA, U Texas-Austin,Vanderbilt, Boston College, Boston University, and USC.

    These are all trap schools like Fordham

    1. Yes, please do Vandy. An outrageously expensive school that believes it is the "Harvard of the South".


    On June 27, 2011, Catherine Rampell posted a piece in the New York Times Economix blog, under the headline “The Lawyer Surplus, State by State.” Her piece relied on data produced by Economic Modeling Specialists, Inc.

    Check out these numbers, for California: Estimated annual openings from 2010-2015 was listed as 3,307. However, 6,258 people passed the bar exam in 2009. This figure represents a SURPLUS of 2,951 lawyers.

    Take a look at the original post, from EMSI, on June 22, 2011. The entry was labeled “Data Spotlight: New Lawyers Glutting the Market.” As you can see, California has the SECOND-MOST GLUTTED LAWYER JOB MARKET, in the nation. What a great distinction, huh?!?!

    According to this LSAC chart, there are 21 ABA-accredited law schools in the state of California. That is a ridiculous number, especially when you consider the overall attorney glut in that state. When will someone purchase a few double-wide trailers – with running water, some bookshelves, Westlaw and LexisNexis subscriptions, internet connection, and a fax machine – and be granted ABA approval, for yet another law school?!

    The following California law schools are ranked higher than this commode, by US “News” & World Report: Stanford, 2nd; UC Berkeley, 9th; UCLA, 17th best; University of Southern California, 18th; and UC Davis, at 38th greatest.

    If it is any consolation to you, the following six, in-state law commodes are ranked in the fourth tier: California Western; Golden Gate “University”; Southwestern Law Sewer; TTTThoma$ Jeffer$on $chool of Law; Western State College of Law at Argosy University; and Whittier College. UC Irvine and the University of La Verne are currently listed as “Unranked,” since both trash pits are currently provisionally-accredited by the cockroaches at the American Bar Association.

    1. Ironically, most of the actions Hastings took were to improve rankings.

      1) Increased in-state tuition (+6k) relative to out of state tuition (+3k) to attract applicants.
      2) Lowered overall class sizes.
      3) Retained teaching faculty but cut other programs, LEOP etc.

  14. Fuck off, Paintroachie. I'm watching the game right now. Memphis is stacked full of niggers. Did I offend you? You're an honorary black man aren't you? Not a single white guy on the whole team. St. Mary's doesn't have a prayer in this one.

    1. Stop arguing with yourself, Roach-man. If you hate blacks that much, why are you watching basketball in the first place?

    2. P.S. If you really want the police and - ahem - the FBI to take you seriously, you should start writing fake threats against yourself and then tell them I did it.

    3. Mr. Infinty just crossed the fucking line. Stop posting bullshit. If you walk up to any black man and call him the n word, I'll give you $100. (It won't come close to covering your medical bills.) Now shut the fuck up.

    4. Good call Infinity.

      The team with all the black guys squeaked by the all-white team. Way to call it. If the white guys knew how to make some free throws or wide open 3 pointers, it might have gone the other way.

    5. @1242,

      I'm about 90 percent sure that Paintroach himself is responsible for the 1153 comment. Just wants sympathy, of course.

      Earth to stupid Paintroach: you are not black!

    6. Let me guess, 11:53 AM. You are from West Virginia?

  15. I don't understand what the hell half of the people in this comments section are talking about.

    Hastings doesn't sound like a very good deal. In fact,it sounds like a right fucking. Pseudo-elite private schools like GW, Emory and Fordham charging 45-50K a year is bad enough, but how the shit do the UC schools get away with it? I thought they were supposed to be private. In my area, the flagship public law schools charge from 18K to 22K a year in-state. And each state has ONE such school - not fucking seven or however many CA has. What's their excuse?

    1. *correction - I thought they were supposed to be public.

      I grew up in California, but there's no way I'd go back. It's an absolute dead end, especially if you want to get into law.

    2. California has been suffering but its not really a dead end. You just have to be hyper-competitive to land a SF/SV/LA opening.

  16. My last comment until now was March 21, @1:19AM.

    I can swear to that and the troll knows that I am truthful.

    The racist comment that followed, and the attempts to say that I made the racist comment @11:53AM surely have to be criminal in some way.

    Publicly posting racist remarks, and then trying to blame the remarks on someone that has not made them is a whole new ballgame, and this is the second time this has happened.

    I don't even follow basketball, let alone College basketball games, and I never even heard of the two teams until tonight.


    As for the Outside the Law School Scam blog, it is probably causing Campos and DJM more harm than good what with its very unfair anon attacks of Brian Leiter, and I would say to anyone involved with OLSS to reconsider your involvement with OLSS as an author, unless you are willing to be completely above board and not anon and are also willing to own up to the pornographic remarks of your fellow writers against Leiter.

    And to be cryptic: Nutty and insane lawyers or law students are hardly unique BTW. And that is what the youngsters don't realize yet.


    1. I didn't post the remark. But I DO believe that you posted it. How is that belief a "crime," exactly?

      And who is it that "knows" you are "truthful?" Certainly not any of the people who loaned you money in exchange for your promise to repay it.

      Are you a racist? Only you know the answer to that question. But would you post something racist against yourself in order to get sympathy? Obviously, the answer is yes.

    2. Hi Antonio. How is Joe C doing?


    “University of California, Hastings College of the Law (UC Hastings or Hastings) is a public law school in San Francisco, California, located in the Civic Center neighborhood.

    Founded in 1878[1] by Serranus Clinton Hastings, the first Chief Justice of California, it was the first law school of the University of California (UC) system and was one of the first law schools established in the Western United States. It is one of the few university-affiliated law schools in the United States that does not share its campus with undergraduates or other graduate programs.”

    UC Ha$ting$ Commode of the Law is a public, free-standing in$titution. That must make it one hell of a prestigious law school, huh?!?!

    Check out this $elf-$erving drivel, from Frank Wu, dean of this first tier toilet:

    “What Makes UC Hastings Stand Out?

    It might be our location in the heart of San Francisco, near the Civic Center and the local, state, and federal courts. UC Hastings is steps away from every manner of transportation, from streetcars and cable cars, to ferries and BART, San Francisco's subway. Our urban campus is comprised of three buildings containing classrooms, offices, our award-winning library, conference space, student apartments, and numerous amenities, such as the Law Café, the Skyroom, several lounges and study spaces, a basketball court and fitness center.”

    Yes, lounges, study spaces and basketball courts should be at the top of every applicant’s criteria, when applying to law school, right?!?! By the way, San Francisco is the most expensive city in the entire nation. For $ome rea$on, Wu “forgot” to mention this in his sales pitch to prospective students.

    Aaron Sankin wrote a piece for Huffington Post, on March 14, 2012, under the header “San Francisco Rents The Highest of Any City in Country.” Check out this opening, from that article:

    “According to a report released this week by the National Low Income Housing Coalition, San Francisco is the most expensive place in the country to rent housing.

    The average rent on a two-bedroom property in [the] city is $1,905 per month. The report finds that someone would need to make at least $76,000 a year (or $36.63 per hour) to be able to afford rent without spending over one-third of his or her income on rent.”

    If you are an unemployed law student, how are you going to pay for rent? Presumably, if you do not come from a wealthy family, you will need to incur additional student loans, for living expenses. Welcome to reality, lemmings. It is MUCH better to recognize these monstrous costs now than to find out after you have already enrolled in these overpriced “legal education” programs.

  18. How the fuck can it be public and free standing?

  19. Great post. I'm sure you noticed that the 2014 U.S. News rankings came out last week and Hastings lists a 26% "employed at graduation" rate.

    I am at a complete loss as to why someone would gamble so much money on this school. It is absolutely criminal that they would charge that much to students who have a snowball's chance in hell of finding a lawyer job at graduation.

  20. Re: The Karen Bass "Student Loan Fairness Act 2013" Bill proposal:

    The Bill proposes and interest cap at 3.4% and mandatory payments of 10% of discretionary income and forgiveness after 10 years.

  21. Here is more info on the Karen Bass Bill:

  22. @ Recovering Lawyer,

    Thank you for pointing out that statistic. Apparently, that rag is starting to furnish detailed info, on these diploma factories. Here is the link to the USN&WR report breakdown of the Univer$ity of California Ha$ting$ Commode of the Law:


    Employed at graduation*: 26.0%”

    That is truly appalling - especially when you consider that the average law student debt - for the UC Hastings Class of 2012 - stood at $114,736. Again, this figure does not take interest accrued during enrollment into account.

    To be fair, the US “News” feature included the following information:

    “Median private sector starting salary : $83,600

    Median public service starting salary: $57,407”

    Even if you take these numbers at face value, keep in mind that it will be a tremendous struggle to pay off total student debt of $150K+ on a salary of $83,600. If you live in California, which features a high cost of living and a formidable tax structure, this will compound the situation.

    Now you can see why ABA-accredited trash heaps and diploma mills prefer to cite to useless data, such as the following:


    Total volumes and volume equivalents: 738,616”

    In the final analysis, the vast majority of students attend law school so that they can enter a profession. Why else would these men and women incur an additional $80K-$170K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt?!?! Sane people don’t spend three years of their lives - and take on monstrous debt - because they enjoy reading parsed public record, i.e. appellate court opinions, and learning about the Rule Against Perpetuities.

    If you have a brain stem, then you will not even consider this garbage pit. In fact, due to the mainstream press documenting the lawyer GLUT in this country, you will not even contemplate a “legal education.” This is an EXPENSIVE and risky venture. Do you want to be financially ruined, so that you can help pay for the cockroach dean’s luxury car and upper class lifestyle?!?!

  23. I can't wait till these schools start shutting down. Professors overreact to every little insult on the internet. Did LawBlows9 call you a loser on your blog? Better out his IP address asap.

    These scammers are terrified. They know declining enrollment means less $$$ for them, maybe even a pink slip. Most of a LS tuition goes towards feeding these morbidly obese hogs.

    Contrary to their oft-spouted nonsense, there is no six-figure private sector job waiting for them. Prof. Blowhard can't walk into a Wachtell partnership with his 1 year clerkship 30 yrs ago. Let's see these shysters truly "give something back" when their platinum income stream is cut off.

    Don't like losing your 6 hr/week 200k jobs? In the words of one of your own: Get Over It, or go find a job in Nebraska.

  24. I attended their 'admitted students day' today. They offered parking at $3 per hour, and a workshop on financial aid (please sign zee papers). They have free pizza at school every day, free beer on thursday nights. Lots of visitors looked far less than enthusiastic. All this for free coffee and doughnuts.

    But you could see it in the eyes of the employees, nervous handshakes, tapping feet, and obsessive checking of the cell phones. the apocalypse is near; just gathering the last of the tailings before the mine collapses. Last one out lock the door

    1. Maybe they should play "The End" by The Doors.

      This is the end
      Beautiful friend
      This is the end
      My only friend, the end
      Of our elaborate plans, the end
      Of everything that stands, the end
      No safety or surprise, the end
      I'll never look into your eyes...again

  25. @ March 21, 7:15PM

    Are you getting by ok moneywise and in a general sense?

    Not flipping out and out of control or anything like that, or cause to make us all worry about you as a loose cannon or possibly personally dangerous to anyone?

    We won't turn you in or destroy your possible future career in law, but you got to quit it with the over the top trolling.

    1. Sigh ... and I had hoped this blog might enjoy yet another roach-free day. I guess this is why we can't have nice things ...

      And LOL, you already *tried* to turn me in - only the police laughed at you and told you to go fuck yourself.

      At least we know that YOU aren't dangerous to anyone, you pissy painty pussy.

      How am I doing financially. Why are you so interested in MY finances, you creepy roach? Well, FWIW I make enough to send money to my parents every month instead of extracting it FROM them. And I also buy some gold Buffalo coins every now and then. I just wish the price of gold would collapse sometime soon; I would go all in if it did.

      Chirpchirpchirp, old Roachy. Now keep your promise (your many, many, many promises) and stop posting here!

  26. I just discovered this blog by chance today. I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. Thank you.

  27. I love that this post came the week of admitted students day. Awesome things I learned at admitted students day: everyone at Hastings loves to manipulate statistics ("don't look at the percentages!"), 60 class of 2012 grads were paid a school stipend so they'd be "employed," employment is shit and the CSO can't deign to help students get jobs, the dean can't be bothered to welcome prospectives, you should ask an alumna who knows the difference between alumnus/alumna/alumni to give the alumni welcome, the most oft-repeated reason to come to Hastings is because it's in the best city, and that doesn't apply to USF or GGU at all, every day is sunny in SF because it's only foggy on the west side of Twin goes on. And that was designed to part us from $250k, since of course there is no such thing as a real scholarship to Hastings. Credit goes to Professor Stuart for telling people one-on-one not to attend in fall.

  28. "I worked at a fast food restaurant in California where I was often told that I would be a good manager by the higher ups,....

    Mr.Infinity/WTLS- March 19th 2013

    "I have never been good at getting regular jobs, such as fast food, retail and sales, so how the hell do I expect to get a job in law?!"

    Mr. Infinity/WTLS -Dec. 12th, 2011

  29. This might lend some insight into why the troll is perversely obsessed with other people's families on OLSS:

    "My grandparents are on the brink of retiring and collecting SSI for the rest of their life. My mother is being forced out of her home and her fiance lives in a camper because the commute to his job is around 3-4 hours. My father has been unemployed for going on two years. So when I mentioned that I was considering dropping out of law school they were frenzied."

    The World Traveling Law Student/Mr. infinity Nov 29th, 2011

    But then again, one can never tell if what he is posting is really true.

  30. Here's an idea--how about USNWR publishes another statistic--the % of graduates for each of the previous 3-5 years who are on IBR/PAYE? That would be interesting.

  31. You forgot to mention that Hastings is located in one of the worst parts of the city, the Tenderloin. If you happen to leave the single butt-ugly high-rise building that constitutes the "campus", you will be accosted by an army of homeless winos begging for change. And get used to the smell of vomit and urine and diesel fumes.

  32. I've been an avid reader but never posted here before. There are just too many law schools, charging too much for tuition and too many graduates. Of course, there are not too many legal jobs.

  33. I'm a Hastings grad making $35k a year. And I live in my mother's basement. The prospects are only going to get better with an improving economy.

  34. The world needs ditch diggers too.

  35. I had such a good laugh reading this… I was actually considering this school, as an out-of-state applicant, but thanks for the heads-up!


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