Saturday, September 28, 2013

First Tier Bovine Excrement: University of Texas School of Law

Tuition: Texas residents attending this school on a full-time basis will be charged $33,162 in tuition – for the 2013-2014 academic year. Non-resident, full-time law students will be grabbing their ankles at the rate of $49,244, for 2013-2014. It’s nice to see that this public univer$ity is looking out for the students, right?!?! 

Estimated Total Cost of Attendance: According to this same document, indirect expenses will amount to $21,174 for out-of-state, full-time students and $20,374 for in-state, full-time law students for the current school year. The public toilet lists the estimated COA for Texas residents as $53,536, whereas non-residents will face $70,418 in total expenses.

Keep in mind that ABA-accredited diploma mills base living costs off of a nine-month academic year. Seeing that actual students will require 12 month expenses, we need to prorate the following items: room & board; travel; and miscellaneous. Doing so, we reach the subsequent, more accurate figures. In-state, full-time law students at the Univer$ity of Texa$ will have a total budget of $59,463, and non-resident, full-time students will have a total COA of $76,345 for one damn year of “legal education.” What a bargain, huh?!?!

Ranking: Vagina Bob Morse and US “News” & World Report list the Univer$ity of Texa$ $chool of Law as the 15th best law school in the country. In fact, it only shares this rating with one other ABA-accredited money pit, i.e. Vanderbilt University, which is located in cosmopolitan Nashville, Tennessee.

Published Employment Statistics: There were 373 members of the University of Texas JD Class of 2012. Damn, that’s a lot of people! Of that amount, 343 were employed in some capacity. Only three graduates did not supply their job status to the school. As a result, the “placement” rate for this cohort was 92.7 percent, i.e. 343/370.

By the way, this supposed 15th best law school in the nation resorted to hiring 21 of its Class of 2012 grads in law school or university-funded positions! Only two of the posts were full-time and long-term. The remaining 19 jobs are listed as full-time and short-term. Yes, the pigs hired 5.6% of the entire big-ass cohort, i.e. 21/373. Without these direct placements, only 87 percent of the class would have been employed within nine months of graduation, i.e. 322/370.

Scroll down to Employment Type. Notice that a total of 187 JDs from the Class of 2012 ended up working in private law firms. If your goal is to go into such a law practice, you had a roughly 50% chance of doing so, coming out of the 15th most amazing law school in the United States.

Of that figure, two desperate souls opened up solo practices, 46 went to work for toilet law shops with 2-10 lawyers, another 19 found employment with offices of 11-25 attorneys, and seven JDs were hired by firms with 26-50 lawyers. On the high end, 22 grads became associates in firms of 251-500 attorneys - while 69 were hired by Biglaw. If you want to land such employment, your odds were 18.5 percent - i.e. 69/373 - if you were a member of the University of Texas JD Class of 2012. Do you still want to take this risky gamble, ass-clown?!

Average Law Student Indebtedness: USN&WR lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the UT-Austin Law Class of 2012 who incurred debt for law school - as $86,312. $omehow, only 74 percent of this school’s 2012 class took on such foul debt. Remember that this figure does not include undergraduate debt – and it also does not take accrued interest into account.

Faculty and Administrator Salaries: Let’s see how well the academic thieves/filthy swine are doing, in comparison to their students. For this info, we head to the Collegiate Times Salary Database. The following figures are from 2010, the most recent year available. The numbers do not take bonuses, benefits or other compensation into account.

Sasquatch Lawrence Sager made $374,167 as dean. Robert Bone and his yellow teeth, big-ass nose and ratty mustache raked in $252,500 - in his role as the G. Rollie White Teaching “Excellence“ Chair in Law. Ronen Avraham received $251,389 as something called the “Thomas Shelton Maxey professor in law.” How can a group of pigs who each make at least $250K annually not use any of those funds to buy decent haircuts or dentist visits?!?! Harry Martin - now described as an adjunct “professor” - somehow “earned” $250,000 as interim director of the law library.  Yes, that must an incredibly challenging job!

Conclusion: The Univer$ity of Texa$ $chool of Law is an overpriced public commode. If you do not come from a wealthy family, then you will essentially be required to incur an additional $90K-$125K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt for a chance to practice law. Don’t forget that more than a quarter of the Class of 2012 did not take out any student loans for their law degrees. This means that you will be competing with connected, rich kids for good jobs. Unlike you, those boys and girls can rely on their wealthy father to call in a favor in order to get them a position.

Do…you…understand…that, Bitch?!?! Or do I need to draw you a diagram with Crayola on poster-board, so that it will penetrate your gray matter? For the benefit of the tools who are intent on attending this school, I post the following list. Your rich classmates have the following advantages over you: (a) they will not take on any student debt; (b) these coddled kids do not necessarily need to have stellar undergrad GPAs and top LSAT scores to gain admission; (c) once in school, they do not need to study hard or earn the best grades; (d) the spoiled brats do not need to “network” since they already know influential people well; (e) they speak the language of the elite pigs and they share the same culture, worldview and mannerisms; and (f) they have employment lined up. 

In fact, these privileged children can get drunk every night and spend their days, nights and weekends chasing pussy and playing video games. You, on the other hand, will spend countless hours in the library. Furthermore, YOU will be expected to “work hard” and make connections. Guess what, genius? Those who already have money and/or access to power BEFORE attending law school are way ahead of you. They have several significant advantages over your debt-strapped ass in the job market.


  1. Nando, I did a search and found that the average UNDERGRAD tuition at UTA for residents was approximately $5,000. Why do you think the law school is so much more? Are law schools these days just a tool for profit? I mean, I could understand if it were a medical school where there are significant costs for equipment, etc. What do you think?

    1. Sounds like you haven't been reading scam blogs for very long. Law school costs so much more because, regardless of the fact that it is technically part of an organization that the IRS deems a non-profit, it is run as a profit-making business, the profits being distributed not to shareholders but to professors, administrators, and other stakeholders such as building contractors. Price is not set based upon cost to provide service; it is set based upon what the market will bear which, in an era of unfettered student loan access, is a heck of a lot.

  2. I'd be interested to see how many nonresidents enrolled here. They're paying just a shade under $50K a year for the experience. That's just crazy.

    1. With those huge graduating classes you have to figure a lot of non-residents are enrolled. Plus, it is a name brand school.

  3. I graduated from UT Law in 1981, when resident tuition was $4.00 per hour (about $250.00 per semester, including fees, books extra), non-resident tuition $40.00 per hour (about $750.00 per semester). 1500-plus students were crammed into a facility built for 1000. Book lockers lined crowded hallways. The student nickname for the law school was Townes High. Lawprofs (many of them pre-eminent) wrote casebooks and practiced a little to make extra money. Alumni donations established endowed chairs to boost salaries. Now, about 1000 students rattle around in a facility built for 1500, and most of them strap on serious debt to pay for the fancy buildings and lawprofs. I no longer contribute to the Annual Fund.

  4. This is a good university. Great campus and it's located in the best city in the state. That said I wouldn't recommend the law school to anyone who doesn't come from money. The same can be said for a lot of national (name brand) law schools.

  5. A couple of years ago, the visionary dean of Texas Law, Larry Sager, recognized that law professors were inadequately compensated. I mean, the poor things worked six-to-nine hour per week, and all they received in exchange was six figure salaries and endless perks.

    So noble Sager gained access to a loosely-supervised University Foundation, and used it to reward his 23 favorite law professors, almost all male for some reason, with a total of 4.6 million dollars in, uh, "forgivable loans." Larry Sager also rewarded his much beloved self with $500,000 in forgivable loans without notifying the University President or provost, leading to his dismissal.

    1. One more thing-- and forgive a long cut-and-paste, but this interesting account, from "former ut law school employee" deserves some attention. It is anonymous, but in light of surrounding circumstances, I would say it has the ring of truth.

      "In my function at the Law School I was privy to details of how both state funds and foundation funds were disbursed and it was apparent from dealing with salary documents that female professors were regularly offered lower salaries as a matter of practice.

      What is not mentioned is that the most glaring example of gender inequity at the Law School occured [sic] among the administrative staff. During his brief and pitiful time as Dean, Larry Sager encouraged and put in place a system of de facto economic and professional apartheid between professors and administrative staff. It should be noted that the administrative staff is largely comprised of females, while the professors are predominantly male. During times of supposed “austerity” at the Law School, Dean Sager eliminated the relatively small but much needed $200 holiday bonuses that long-time staff received to buy necessities such as toys and food for their children. He also spent less than $200 for food and refreshments for over 100 staff for the annual holiday party, a function that had traditionally served as an opportunity to thank the administrative staff for another long year of hard work and give a general state of the Law School address. Not only that, he made his secretary purchase the refreshments out of their own pocket and get reimbursed roughly a month later.

      While the administrative staff were asked to work two or three separate jobs in some instances in the same amount of time due to the hiring freeze and austerity measures, without increased pay and merit-based raises or cost of living salary increases, Larry Sager was “loaning” himself $500,000.00 The cost of his modernist, Italian-import office renovation alone cost $750,000.00.

      Considering that President Powers occupied that same office before him, one can be certain it was already very nicely furnished and appointed without the three quarters of a million dollars worth of glass and marble furnishings, calf-skin chairs and original works of art Larry Sager lavished on it.

      The renovation was of course managed by his wife, Jane Cohen, who also used UT Law funds generously for her own personal benefit.She is in the top ten of best compensated UT Law professors and yet still had her hand so deep in the pork barrel that she went as far as using the University’s Fedex and UPS accounts for her own personal business. Basically these two nickel and dimed UT for every cent they could get."

  6. The biggest tier 1 trap schools out there are these "prestigious" state universities (Texas, Virginia, etc.). State schools used to be for state residents to get an affordable legal education and graduate with a minimal amount of debt. Then they could go out and practice in their state without having to worry since they didn't have $200k in debt hanging around their necks. Nowadays the in-state tuition is marginally less than out-of-state and state schools actively recruit out-of-state applicants so as to get the increased tuition. Plus, let's remember this is Texas, where the legislature and governor have been leading a crusade against lawyers generally for close to a decade now via tort reform and capping awards. Texas is probably one of the most hostile states for legal professionals. Read more here:

    And $50k/yr for out-of-state tuition is fucking absurd. This is what the phony USNWR rankings does, it gives the law school pigs carte blanche to increase tuition to outrageous levels, justifying it because some corrupt ranking system says they are they 15th "best" law school.

  7. Re: Sager

    What do you expect from academic thieves? They're fucking parasites.

  8. A friend of mine was told recently by a paralegal job placement agency/recruiter that he could not forward her resume to his client because his client does not want to hire someone with a JD for a paralegal job.

    I call that a fine howdy do and I miss the blog called: "Shit law jobs" in that sense because it reflected the reality of the job market.

    I too have seen job postings for paralegal positions that say: "JD's need not apply"

    So there is no next step down before financial ruin in other words, and the great paradox is that the JD will over qualify you for anything else if you have no connections or outside help.

    After a while you will learn to never discuss the fact that you ever went to a law school because it absolutely makes people very uncomfortable when they are dealing with you in most any capacity.

    Legal academics will never be able to understand this. Not even Campos. But that is the word from the streets and the land of employment not through networking as Joan what is her name says, but from the classified ads online.

    Blah blah blah

    1. Andrew Carmichael Post has a job and is paying his down.,0,2034018,full.story

    2. That is an anomalous story and is full of good intentions but only time will tell if he succeeds in paying off 200K of debt in six years.

      One commenter wrote a typical comment that I have read and in so many words and for quite a dew years now. But it doesn't change anything:

      "Yes, student loans should be dischargeable in bankruptcy just like any other unsecured non-fraudulent debt. The main reason college fees have risen at rates far outpacing inflation is that greedy college administrators know that anyone, no matter how poor a risk, can take out virtually unlimited government-guaranteed loans to pay them.

      Notwithstanding Mr. Stewart's comment below, unless you have a very unusual tale of misfortune -- e.g. contracted a rare debilitating disease, rendered paraplegic in a car accident that wasn't your fault -- it's damn near impossible to have student loans discharged in bankruptcy. The law specifically provides that they are non-dischargeable."

      He is in College at age 13?

  9. I recently had lunch with a colleague who works as a senior associate at a V20 firm. While I was in the building's elevator, I ran into a childhood friend who apparently was also working at the firm. We exited the elevator and parted ways. During lunch I asked my colleague about my childhood friend and he did not recognize the name. He called the receptionist to ask who and in what department my childhood friend worked in. Well, we found out that he was not an employee of the firm. He was placed on a temporary doc review gig by an agency. I later looked up my childhood friend on LinkedIn and saw he attended Cornell for undergrad and UTexas for law school. Disclosure: he is African-American. I hope for my childhood friend's sake, he obtained scholarships to attend such expensive schools. What's even worse is for all their collective prestige (Cornell being bottom Ivy League) and UT (being a T15/T16 school), my friend is still slumming it in the doc review circuit.

    1. Jesus dude..

      If that's the case, it's truly Game (the fuck?) Over in the legal field. Yes, I'm sure your friend was / is suffering from non-Wasp / Jew Syndrome in the field but here is a man with the "right pedigree" and name-tags on his resume and look wtf he's at.. Shameful. Sad and shameful.

      He did everything right, by objective standards, and still lost the game. Only in America.

    2. Times have changed. When I graduated from law school over 20 years ago, someone with those credentials, even a minority, would have a shot at a decent legal career. Today, credential stacking is ubiquitous. Being an Ivy league grad in NYC isn't impressive as Ivy league grads are a dime a dozen.

      Today, the name of the game is who you know. For example, I know a kid who went to Cardozo, graduated middle of the pack, but works in Biglaw because his dad is a rabbi for the synagogue where one of the senior partners frequents. Today, it's all about WHO you know, not what you know or where you graduated from. Minorities have it harder because the "profession" is stacked with rules, customs and prejudices designed to exclude them from practice. So to recap, it's not about pedigree so much as it is about who your dad is or whose dick your mom is sucking. I am usually not this profane but this is the brutal truth.

    3. 5:11 is spot on. I know many a TTT grad who works in state/local government, as state judicial clerks, or in shit/midlaw because their family knew a politician, judge or partner at a firm. My neighbor's son went to a TT school and got a job at a pretty respectable boutique real estate firm. Interestingly enough, his dad was a major client for that firm over the years since he owns a large construction company. Do you think that firm was going to higher anyone else after a well-paying client picks up the phone and cashes in a favor? The kid isn't a dumb shit, but he definitely isn't some braniac. They could care less if you went to the 15th "best" law school and this kid went to Seton Hall. They want to keep my neighbor in their good graces for potential business so they hired his son.

      I could talk ad nauseum on this topic because so many lemmings buy the law school pig lie about magically graduating and walking into a firm job or prosecutor's office without anyone pushing you through the back door. You absolutely need connections to successfully break into this field and that isn't accomplished by starting a network on day 1 of your legal education. Don't listen to the career troll who comes on here extolling the virtues of "getting ahead with hard work" and not needing clout. He is delusional. There are simply far too many law grads for the amount of legal jobs available. Law firms are bastions of nepotism and back-scratching, government posts require political connections. I'm not saying you need to know the governor but you absolutely need a handful of well-placed, reliable connections. The vast majority of "elite" grads who get biglaw after graduation get canned in 4 years and then they try to weasel their way into the government or a law school. Do not take on $200k in debt so some law school pig can go and eat at a steakhouse every Friday night and have car services drive them to and from campus.

      Don't say you weren't warned, lemming.

  10. @ Russ McCoy:

    Read the epic New York Times piece from David Segal, which was entitled “Is Law School a Losing Game?” This was published on January 8, 2011, and it was a game changer, with regards to the law school scam. Review the following segment:

    “Number-fudging games are endemic, professors and deans say, because the fortunes of law schools rise and fall on rankings, with reputations and huge sums of money hanging in the balance. You may think of law schools as training grounds for new lawyers, but that is just part of it.

    They are also cash cows.

    Tuition at even mediocre law schools can cost up to $43,000 a year. Those huge lecture-hall classes — remember “The Paper Chase”? — keep teaching costs down. There are no labs or expensive equipment to maintain. So much money flows into law schools that law professors are among the highest paid in academia, and law schools that are part of universities often subsidize the money-losing fields of higher education.”

    In sum, the vile pigs charge outrageous law school tuition because they can get away with this nonsense. Administrators at college$ and univer$itie$ know that they can use those profits to underwrite other academic programs. Plus, they also don’t give one damn about the students.

    Great research, dybbuk! Thank you for providing those links.

    Check out the December 12, 2011 story entitled “Chancellor orders review of UT Law School Foundation funds,” from the Texas American-Statesman. The piece was written by staff writer Ralph K.M. Haurwitz. Look at this opening:

    “The chancellor of the University of Texas System on Friday ordered tighter controls on the flow of money from a charitable foundation that has directed millions of dollars to the UT School of Law over several decades.

    The directive from Chancellor Francisco Cigarroa came a day after Larry Sager was forced out as law dean after the release of records showing that some law professors, including Sager, have received hundreds of thousands of dollars in forgivable loans from the UT Law School Foundation.

    The records, obtained under the Texas Public Information Act by three law professors and separately by the American-Statesman, also show that 19 members of the law faculty are paid $300,000 or more a year — a sign of the highly competitive market for legal scholars but also a source of consternation for faculty members who earn far less.”

  11. Later on, Haurwitz furnished this meaty portion:

    “The Law School Foundation, a private, nonprofit organization established in 1952, has been highly effective in amassing donations, with assets totaling $167 million, according to its website.

    Officials of the foundation could not be reached Friday, but Jon Newton, president of its board of trustees, said Thursday that the law dean is not empowered to write checks from the foundation's account. By the same token, he said, the foundation does not get involved in managing the Law School, and it routinely allocates money to faculty members on the dean's recommendation.

    The process has unfolded with relatively little oversight by the dean's bosses, UT-Austin President William Powers Jr. and Steven Leslie, the executive vice president and provost. That appears likely to change, in part as a result of Sager's $500,000 forgivable loan in 2009, awarded at a time when deans and other top university officials were supposed to be under a pay freeze.

    Sager said his payment was initiated by Robert Grable, then-president of the foundation, and approved by the foundation's executive committee. Grable, who is no longer a foundation officer, declined to comment, but Newton confirmed Sager's account. Powers has said there is no indication any funds were misappropriated.

    All told, 20 law professors received forgivable loans from 2006 to 2010. Except for Sager's, the payments ranged from $75,000 to $350,000. Professors do not have to pay the loans back if they stay on the job.

    The faculty uproar over the compensation information, coupled with complaints by some female law professors that their pay lags behind that of male colleagues, figured into the decision by Powers to ask Sager to step down.”

    Yes, it certainly pays to be a white or Jewish male in legal academia. Hell, simply take a look at the list of the 10 highest paid bastards at the school - which was provided at the end of the article. But these pieces of trash are truly concerned about the students, right?!?!

  12. Now even these top law schools are producing a fair share of doc review monkeys.

    It's a dying profession. If you're in it and you have a good non law job lined up, get the fuck out. If you're in law school now and you're not in the top 5% of the class, drop out. If you're considering law school, get your fucking head examined. Stay in your job and make connections with the people you work with. With some luck and showing what you can do, maybe you'll move up.

  13. @501,

    Then travel to South America and pay some medical butcher to sever your spinal column, you fucking cockroach.

    Better for you to be a quadriplegic than do any work. And don't worry, you'll still be able to blow into a tube to activate your precious YouTube videos.

  14. Welcome to the New Economy, where full-time "employment" is disappearing as a socio-economic concept, college degrees are as worthless as Weimar currency, and entire economic sectors spring up just to claim federal tax credits, but we're "capitalist" so it's your fault if you can't find a way to earn a living. Instead of law school, take your money and buy an RV and drive around doing temp jobs, or a dumpy house with a really big yard so you can at least grow some fresh vegetables. Itinerant laborer, subsistence farmer, scrapper, handyman, selling crap on Craigslist - you're going to end up there anyway, so why fight it? Skip the middleman and at least you'll avoid the debt.

    1. Friend, you are awake. This is the world around us now. I like the RV idea. Wandering handyman, etc. There's no upward mobility left in "Edumacation". As others have said, unless you are already heavily-connected and / or wealthy very much prior to enrolling, law school will likely be a Sucker's Bet for you. For the connected types, it's essentially a Rubber Stamp for them before moving into their 1% jobs.

      Learn a trade, travel, and make money. Avoid the trap of education today.

    2. You are spot on with the RV idea. I told my parents about 5 years ago that I should've bought an RV vs. going to law school because the economy is different. Gone is stability and the white picket fence. I think we all should become mobile - meaning we could pick up and move at the drop of a hat. The RV is a marvelous way to do that. Too bad I am riddled with six figure debt. I have a well paying job, but seem to be making little headay on the student loans. Its depressing.

    3. The RV idea could work if you are content being alone for the rest of your life and not laying down roots anywhere. But some want to have families and be a part of a community and that precludes us from driving our families and spouses around the country in perpetuity doing odd jobs. I'm not saying homeownership is right for everyone, far from it. I rented for years because I didn't want to lose my mobility. In fact, I think another modern con in America aside from education is the idea of the "American dream" and universal homeownership. That idea is what got us the crash of 2008. But you have to grow up eventually and realize driving around American in an RV for the rest of your life is an insane idea for most people who have family obligations and want to start a career. The government incentivizes like crazy homeownership and marriage via the tax code and countless other programs and people take advantage of them.

      If you are content to be alone forever (no chance any decent woman will want anything to do with you) driving around America doing odd jobs then cool. But I think most people would want something more out of life.

    4. And, of course, settling down into a career is best achieved by taking out 100,000 of NONDISCHARGABLE DEBT for a useless academic diploma in a field with no career opportunities. Explore the country, do varied work until you find a life that you can tolerate. And, "Decent Women" are not exactly immune to the stunning collapse of jobs where one can actually earn a living.

  15. Hey man, your blog kicks ass. I thought I'd tell you about a tragicomic exchange I had this weekend. My wife decided she wanted to attend our 20th law school reunion. I figured what the fuck, if it'll make her happy; plus, there's a cash bar. Our law school used to be at the bottom of Tier I, but now it is flirting with Tier III status. My wife and I met there as students, got married, and ended up working together in the same county law office (let's just say we work in criminal law). There is no way we would have got these low-compensating shitlaw positions if not for having certain valuable connections along the way. Anyway, at the reunion we encountered our crim pro professor, who is definitely one of the most venerated profs in our law school. When we told him where we worked, he started telling us how important it is to "find something you love and stick with it, that's the most important thing." Thing is, he was using this pitying, consoling tone. I think he felt sorry for us for working in shitlaw. Then he started poormouthing us, implying that money was tight for him--all with weasely, nervous laughter. The sooner the world comes crashing down around these bleeding fuckholes, the better!

    1. Law profs are terrible about poormouthing. They act like they sacrificed and took low paying jobs (because they aren't biglaw partners) and fail to realize that they are paid better than 90+% of JDs.

  16. My response is that right now the lawl skools and the legal industry are just rolling along under inertia, but that situation will change in the near (2-3 year) future. The next two decades will be THE END of the industry as we have known it, as school after school fades away because nobody wants to risk the law anymore. The ABA will probably desperately hang on, but really the die has been cast.

  17. Thanks for the support, 9:43 am. I don't have any respect for my TTT, either. By the way, does that mean that your old crim law “professor” loves to financially ruin dozens of students each year?!

    I am glad that Third Tier Drake has smaller enrollment numbers. The current first year class size has 113 students. Before we started documenting the overall law school scam, graduating classes were typically 145 students at this commode.

    I emailed one of my former "professors" about this fact. The bitch has yet to respond.

    Anyway, as a student at the 15th "best" law school in the United States, you have the unique opportunity to write onto the Texas Review of Entertainment & Sports Law! Hell, that will make you more popular on campus than the starting QB on the Longhorns football team, right?!?!

    "It is with great pride we announce the availability of Volumes 12 and 13 as well as the opportunity to order Volume 14:1-2 (2012-2013).

    With the TRESL mission statement as our guide, to “chronicle, comment on, and influence the shape of the law that affects the entertainment and sports industries, throughout the United States and the world,” we continue to provide an informative and compelling collection of articles by active attorneys, distinguished professors, and talented law students."

    Now take a look at the Texas Environmental Law Journal:

    “The Texas Environmental Law Journal (TELJ) is proud to announce the availability of Volume 40:1-3 (2010), Volume 41:1-3 (2011), Volume 42:1-3 (2012), as well as the opportunity to pre-order our upcoming V.43:1-3 (2013). TELJ is an official publication of the Environmental and Natural Resources Law Section of the State Bar of Texas and is published jointly with students of The University of Texas School of Law.

    Intended to be published tri-annually, the Journal gives timely and practical information about developments in environmental law. It includes articles by practitioners and academicians; information about recent developments involving cases, statutes, and rules relevant to environmental law; and notes submitted by law students throughout Texas.”

    Yes, with all of those wealthy oil and gas pigs located in the state, I’m sure that Texas has a pristine environment. The school ought to establish a Barbecue Law journal.

  18. This was the sad truth for me. After graduating from my Toilet (Chicago-Kent Law School!) in the top third, I was unemployed. I was trying to support my wife and my baby and it was a very stressful and depressing time for me.

    I had to resort to selling stuff on Craigslist and doing part-time handyman work to make ends meet. I was lucky to get a garden plot at the local community gardens.

    If you live near or in a big city it's slightly easier, as there are a lot more social services available, and people throw out a lot more useful things than they do in smaller or poorer areas. I'd advise people who have to do this to look at the Craigslist "Free" section and also get onto Freecycle. Make a point of patrolling the alleys the night before garbage pickup. I always found something I could sell on Craigslist or "Offer" on Freecycle to offset the times I got stuff from them.

    It was a tough, long two years. To survive like that you have to put away all your pride and hustle. I wouldn't go to law school if I could do it over.

    I couldn't even get volunteer work. The local legal aid agencies were glutted with T10 law graduates who got one year "fellowships" for working at said agencies, and Toileteers were ignored.

    I suppose I'm not astonished that some Toilets haven't closed down, despite all the stories that have come out about the scam. People hear what they want to hear, and are shockingly bad at making rational decisions. Now I just try to talk people out of it, knowing full well they're rationalizing away anything I say. I'm sure they have no idea what I'm talking about. But they will one day.

  19. You would have to be crazy to go to law school these days, with all the information that is out there.

  20. Check out these other world-renowned law journals from the Univer$ity of Texa$ $chool of Law:

    "The Texas Hispanic Journal of Law & Policy is pleased to announce the opportunity to order Volumes 17 and 18 and the upcoming Volume 19:1 (2012-2013). The Journal seeks to advance legal scholarship through feature articles, essays, book reviews, and student notes relevant to a national and international audience of legal scholars and practitioners.

    Our latest issues have inspired the academic community to recognize the importance of Latino legal representation."

    "The Texas Journal of Women and the Law is pleased to announce the availability of Volumes 20 and 21 and the publication of this academic year's Volumes 22:1-2 (2012-2013).

    Since the release of Volume 1 in 1990, the Journal has secured its place at the forefront of contemporary legal issues through the publication of articles, essays, notes, and reviews that enhance and maintain discourse on gender concerns. To this end, the Journal aims to expand feminist legal thought and inspire dialogue about legal, social, and political issues affecting women, ultimately enhancing the relationship between theoretical and practical perspectives of gender and law."

    As you can see, the commode currently offers 13 different publications. Apparently, every student should "serve" on at least one of these damn things. Why not combined some of these TTT reviews and save some resources? For instance, the oil, gas and energy law journal would fit into the environmental arena. The Hispanic and women's publications could be rolled into a minority law review - since feminists categorize women as such.

    Then again, if the school wants to have journals focused on specialized areas of “the law,” I suppose the pigs could offer a separate periodical about Hispanic women. Hell, why not a publication regarding left-handed Hispanic women?!?! I can see the title now, i.e. the Texas Journal of Left-Handed Hispanic Women and the Law.”

  21. Nando- here's the ABA Journal story. Did you get sued by Cooley? If so, congrats on successfully defending yourself!

    A federal judge has nixed a defamation suit filed by Thomas M. Cooley Law School against a law firm and bloggers who criticized the institution's portrayal of its graduates' employment statistics.

    Finding that the law school is, at minimum, a limited-purpose public figure, U.S. District Judge Robert J. Jonker on Monday ruled (PDF) that, as a matter of law, Cooley could not show clear and convincing proof of actual malice and granted a summary judgment motion by the plaintiffs, dismissing the case. The law school vows to appeal.

    "After a federal trial court and a federal appeals court both found the Kurzon Strauss misrepresentation case against Cooley to be without merit, it's hard to reconcile Judge Jonker's ruling that Kurzon Strauss's unfounded accusations can't be pursued as defamation" said general counsel Jim Thelen in a press release. "We will pursue the case in the appeals court now, where we'll have a new hearing on these issues."

    In a competing press release (PDF), founding partner Jesse Strauss of Strauss Law called the ruling "a victory for free speech."

    Meanwhile, although the Strauss firm has, so far, had limited success with the litigation it has pursued against Cooley and other law schools on behalf of individuals allegedly misled by inaccurate statistics about students' post-graduate employment, the judge offered a zinger amidst a discussion of non-defamatory hyperbole.

    "Further, the statement that 'Cooley grossly inflates its graduates’ reported mean salaries' may not merely be protected hyperbole, but actually substantially true," Jonker wrote, citing two opinions in which courts had reached similar conclusions.

    "MacDonald v. Thomas M. Cooley Law School, 880 F. Supp. 2d 785, 794 (W.D. Mich. 2012) (finding that the average starting salary for all graduates specified in Cooley’s 2010 Employment Report 'does not represent the average starting salary for ‘all’ graduates; nor does it even represent the graduates’ average starting salary for whom Cooley knew the employment status. Standing alone, the representation is objectively untrue.'); MacDonald v. Thomas M. Cooley Law School, 724 F.3d 654 (6th Cir. 2013) ('We agree with the district court that this statistic is "objectively untrue.”')."

  22. Is that a photo of a law professor?

  23. My old firm had two UT grads as paralegals. I am surprised at the recruiter who refused JDs for such jobs. You can often make a great paralegal out of a JD

  24. This school is an overrated shithole. The kids with money are going to do very well. And the rest will end up with a shitload of debt and a measly income. Fuck this place.


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