Saturday, October 19, 2013

Second Tier Baptist Bile: Baylor University School of Law

Tuition: Full-time law students/victims at Baylor University - a private Baptist school - will have their anuses penetrated to the tune of $47,334 in tuition - for the 2013-2014 school year.  I suppose the pigs feel that Jesus would charge such outrageous rates.  For some reason, these ass-hats still use a an archaic three quarter academic year.

Total Cost of Attendance: Now we head to a form labeled "2013-2014 Law Full-Time Budgets."  For the poor souls attending for all three quarters, the cesspool estimates that other cost will amount to an additional $21,779.  This brings the total estimated COA to $69,113.  By the way, fees account for $3,372 for the current school year.

Keep in mind that ABA-accredited trash pits only calculate living expenses on a nine month basis.  Seeing that actual law students will require these costs over the entire year, I will prorate the following items: room; board; transportation; and personal expenses.  Books, supplies, and fees remain unchanged.  After these adjustments, we reach a more accurate, total COA of $74,607 - for 2013-2014.  That's one hell of a bargain for the student, huh?!?!

Ranking: According to US "News" & World Report, Baylor University Sewer of Law is rated as the 54th greatest, most marvelous and sensational law school in the United States.  It only shares this wondrous distinction with one other commode, i.e. Georgia STTaTTe UniversiTTy.  Who wouldn't be proud of this "achievement"?!

Published Employment Placement Statistics: Based on the Employment Summary for 2012 Graduates, there were 164 members of this cohort.  Of this total, only three did not furnish their employment status to the commode.  The placement rate for this class was a mere 85.7 percent, i.e. 138/161.  That is an incredible figure, right?!?!  Again, this includes law grads working as insurance adjusters, elementary school teachers, or restaurant servers.

One graduate was enrolled in an advanced degree program full-time, while four had their start date deferred.  Furthermore, three Baylor grads were unemployed but not seeking, whereas 15 suckers were out of work and looking for a job.  At least, the sewage pit only hired two members of this class in university of law school funded positions.

Scroll down to Employment Type, to look at the overall job outlook.  You will note that exactly 100 graduates from this cohort ended up working in private law firms.  Four desperate souls opened up solo practices, while 47 found employment in firms of 2-10 lawyers.  Another 19 were hired by offices of 11-25 attorneys, whereas 12 grads were working for firms of 26-10 lawyers.  In stark contrast, four members of Baylor's Law Class of 2012 were hired by firms of more than 500 attorneys.  Do you still want to take the gamble, Lemming?!?!

Average Law Student Indebtedness: USN&WR lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the Baylor JD Class of 2012 who incurred debt for law school - as $99,852. In fact, 78 percent of this school’s 2012 class took on such toxic debt. Remember that this figure does not include undergraduate debt – and it also does not take accrued interest into account.

University Administrator Salary Info: We will scroll down to page 81 of the 2012 Form 990 for Baylor University, i.e. Employer ID No. 74-1159753, in order to see how well the cockroaches are doing in comparison to the students.  The TOTAL COMPENSATION figures below are for the tax year ending May 31, 2012.

Surprisingly, no member of the law faculty makes the list as one of the highest compensated employees at this dung heap.  Then again, this supposed “institution of higher education” was too busy paying its head football coach $2,426,360; its head men‘s basketball coach a total of $2,133,120; and shelling out $1,324,969 to the head women‘s basketball coach.  The university “president” is none other than one of the most vile dogs in this country, i.e. Kenneth Starr.  This bastard raked in $706,426 in TOTAL COMPENSATION - for the tax year listed above.  Yes, Piggy made $585,808 in reportable compensation, but that wasn’t enough to satisfy the swine - so the university threw in another $120,618 in “estimated amount of other compensation from the organization and related organizations.”

Conclusion: Baylor UniversiTTy Law Sewer is a grossly overpriced, private toilet.  The direct cost of attendance currently stands at $50,706, i.e. tuition plus fees.  Try paying just the tuition, and see if the pigs allow you to enroll.  This fact further shows that private Chri$tian colleges in Texas are motivated by money.  In the final analysis, if you want to play Texas Hold 'Em with your future, it's your life, Idiot.  But don't complain that you were not warned, when you are strapped down with an additional $110K-$140K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt - while earning a meek $35K per year.


  1. What happened to the previous post, the one about the tool from Marquette?

    And why was your blog down for several hours yesterday?

  2. "Georgia STTaTTe UniversiTTy"

    That's a nice turn of phrase.

  3. They spend a lot of money on athletics. But that's what all these colleges do. No one even bats an eyelash at this shit anymore. It's accepted.

  4. But Baylor is the only ABA school in Waco, TX. That has to count for something.

  5. Kenneth Starr was mad at the whole Lewinsky thing because wanted to blow him.

  6. Love your fall tour of the law schools of the old Southwest Conference: UT, SMU, Baylor. Maybe you already profiled Houston and Arkansas. Then there's TTTT Aggie Law (formerly Texas Wesleyan.)

  7. What happened to the Timmy Patterson post? Did you get a cease and desist letter?

  8. I wonder how much longer this system will be able to sustain itself?

    Whatever happened to the notion of the poor scholar?

    "“The pale Usher—threadbare in coat, heart, body, and brain; I see him now. He was ever dusting his old lexicons and grammars, with a queer handkerchief, mockingly embellished with all the gay flags of all the known nations of the world. He loved to dust his old grammars; it somehow mildly reminded him of his mortality.”

    Herman Melville

  9. That stinks @ 2:57 PM - just noticed this. I love Nando - I hope everything is cool with him. I don't like that the other guy won. It's just one battle in their budding war.

  10. In response to 2:57 pm,

    Some piece of trash lifted portions of a law student's online resume and tried to pass itself off as someone else. Academic thieves and their shills should be punished for their vile actions, regarding the law school scam. Those who have had been impersonated by anonymous cockroaches clearly don’t fall into either category. Only a sick person would want to see a victim get slammed further.

    Under the “Why Choose Baylor” tab on the front page, you will find a link to the following nonsense. Take a look at the portion below:


    If the amenities of the building where you end up studying law are not your first considerations at this point in your legal career, they soon will be. You're going be spending many, many hours studying and going to classes there. Your facilities need to be the best.

    That's why Baylor Law School's Sheila & Walter Umphrey Law Center was designed to be truly be state-of-the-art. It is one of the nation's premier law school facilities. The school sits on the banks of the Brazos River, with expansive water views from the library, the student lounge, and veranda. The building's aesthetic appeal, the view of the water, and even the landscaping provide the sense of calm and quiet needed for rigorous study and focus.”

    This is TTTT conduct. You don’t see real law schools making the following arguments for attending their particular program: “We have the 2nd best environmental law program in the nation” or “Our law school is located in the capital city, which provides students with access to state representatives, federal courts and a large legal community.”

    The description later includes this nugget of comedy gold:

    “Even burning the midnight oil is a pleasure here, rather than a chore, thanks to the abundance of study carrels, reading rooms, and conference rooms of various sizes. You'll also find WiFi connectivity throughout Baylor Law School, dataports at every seat, and full access to numerous databases, including Westlaw and Lexis Nexis.”

    Yes, studying archaic, parsed public record in a stuffy law library can be a real treat, right?!?! After all, wouldn’t you rather do that than go out on a hot date or engage in some activity that you truly enjoy? Furthermore, I laughed when I saw how the pigs act as if providing Wi-Fi and access to Westlaw and Lexis databases sets them apart from any other ABA-accredited diploma mill. Hell, I’m sure that Indiana TTTTTech Law Sewer furnishes the same internet connections.

  11. Lol skool is a bad decision for most students. But it's sold as a solid investment by the shitbag profs and deans. You know, the guys making great salaries off this shit. That's like ponzi scheme assholes telling you their scheme will work out for you.

  12. Was there any comment about the bathrooms? Law schools are TTT unless they have dyson air dryers in the restrooms.

  13. What happened with the previous post? Did Paterson treated to sue?

  14. You're forgetting that Baylor has a really good football team this year. They put up 71 points today. And RG3 won the Heisman at Baylor. That's what counts in higher ed.

  15. What happened to the Timothy Patterson (Marquette) post?

  16. Texas Hold 'em?

    These kids are playing roulette with their lives.

  17. What is happening to our country?

    It used to be that going to college was almost always a good bet. And it used to be that buying a house was almost always a good investment. Our country is in trouble.

    1. All of that was replaced by getting a government job as the best and surest thing.

      Sounds a bit like socialism maybe?

      Especially when the Socialists offer to wipe out your debts in 10 short years if you work for the government, and the rest of the slobs working in the private sector are screwed.

    2. The most likely answer is a simple economic concept called Crowding Out. In short, if the capital pool (i.e. savings and investment-ready money) is sucked up by government borrowing, or consumer finance, or inflation, then new businesses can't raise capital or borrow money and the productive economy stagnates. No production means no jobs, which means no middle class, which means no wills for lawyers to probate. The American capital pool is so shallow the Fed has to print money to fund government borrowing and mortgage lending....

    3. investment runs to the most profitable investments. the system can no longer sustain socially useful profitable investments...

  18. Whatever happened to Christopher Knorps? Did he pass the bar exam?

  19. At last, an unanswerable rebuttal to the scamblog critique: an "abundance of study carrels" and the "pleasure" derived therefrom.

    Another priceless phrase from the "amazing facilities" section: "roomy faculty offices designed with student/professor mentoring in mind." You hear that, law students? Be very appreciative that your professors have big offices! You see, the roomier the professor's office, the more he or she mentors you.

  20. To the commenter from October 19, 2013 at 1:20 pm,

    Good observation, even though I was not trying to blast all of the members of the old Southwest Conference in a row.

    Here is my entry for the University of Houston Law Cesspool, which I posted back on August 21, 2011:

    You can also check out my December 27, 2011 profile of the University of Arkansas Sewer of Law, via the link below:

    I have also covered the law school at TTTexas TTTech UniversiTTTy.

    If you want to be technical, the University of Oklahoma was a member of the conference from 1915-1919. I flushed the ABA-accredited toilet a while ago also.

    Surprisingly, Rice Univer$ity and Texa$ Chri$tian – both wealthy, private “institutions of higher learning” - do not have law schools.

    On July 5, 2012, Bailey McGowan of TCU 360 wrote a piece entitled “TCU expanding graduate programs, no interest in law school.” Check out this opening:

    “When it comes to its offerings for graduate students, TCU is looking for programs that promote employability and that are a good mesh with what it currently offers.

    TCU will continue to expand its graduate programs but that doesn’t necessarily mean a law school is in the works, Chancellor Victor Boschini said.

    With the news of Texas A&M University’s purchase of Texas Wesleyan law school and TCU’s past history of looking into a deal to buy Texas Wesleyan, people started to question whether or not TCU was interested in a law school again.

    So what can people look forward to for TCU’s graduate programs? More emphasis in the graduate nursing program for one, Boschini said.”

    Now, scroll down to the article’s conclusion:

    “Short term, a law school might not be the best option for TCU, alumnus Bob Craig said.

    “In today’s economy, the law profession is finding that many of the students that are graduating are having difficulty finding jobs,” Craig, the vice president for Charles Rivers Associates, said.

    Craig also said he agreed with TCU’s decision to not get into the market for a law school right now.”

    Again, you shouldn’t believe any univer$ity official who claims that they are looking only into programs with good employment prospects for students. With the severe drop in applications – with a concurrent drop in quality of JD candidates – TCU administrators know that buying or establishing a law school does not make business sense for the university.

  21. On September 4, 2013, Tool Jack CriTTenden’s rag, i.e. NaTTTional Juri$TTT, published a story labeled “BYU, Baylor top list of Best Value private law schools.” Don’t eat or drink anything while reading the following portion or you may choke:

    “Brigham Young University and Baylor University School of Law are the best value private law schools, according to a new study by The National Jurist.

    Notre Dame Law School, Duquesne University and Hamline University round out the top five. (See below for complete list).

    The National Jurist ranked private law schools in addition to an overall Best Value ranking for the first time. The overall ranking will premiere in the October issue of The National Jurist. Brigham Young University is the only private law school on the overall list this year, and was one of only two on the list last year. In 2007, there were 13 private schools on the Best Value list.

    “With rising tuition, it has become increasingly difficult for private law schools to make the Best Value list,” said Editor in Chief Jack Crittenden. “But some schools have made great strides to keep debt low through scholarships, even if tuition is high. We felt it was important to recognize the schools that deliver excellent results and have a lower debt load than most private law schools.”

    Apparently, CriTTenden forgot to look at the fact that Baylor grads from the Class of 2012 – those who took out student loans for law school - still incurred an additional $99,852 in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt. Plus, the overall placement rate for this cohort was 85.7 percent. Keep in mind that this number includes those working in non-law jobs.

    Again, this publicaTTTion has no real credibility. Nearly half the pages – if not more - include advertisements for various TTT and TTTT garbage law schools. Hell, even Third Tier Drake placed 9th best value among private schools.

    As you can see, Baylor Univer$iTTy Sewer of Law was proud of this “achievement.” The school posted a “news and events” report entitled “Baylor Law Tops in 'Best Value'” – on September 10, 2013. For $ome rea$on, the commode did not point out the average law student indebtedness figures, for the Baylor Class of 2012, from US “News.”

  22. They're in Waco?

    Do they have a endowed David Koresh Professor of Religion Law?

  23. Actually...BYU is one of the better cheaper law schools believe it or not due to the university funding through its tithing to keep tuition prices down and they have small class sizes,...I know a few people that went there.

  24. Another law student looking for a job.

    Lawyer Tries To Start Social Media Movement By Posting Nude Pictures Online

    1. ^If he gets any clients before the 9 months goes by, he'll be counted as employed won't he?

  25. Anony Oct 21 at 5:59pm thanks for link, found the article interesting.

  26. Check out this page from the toilet’s CDO pigs. The information is targeted as prospective students.

    “Career Development as Part of Your Legal Education

    People choose to go to law school for many reasons. Some have very clear career goals in mind when they begin classes; some have a general idea about options that may be available to people with law degrees; some are interested in the scholarly pursuit; and some choose to go to law school because of advice or recommendations from family or friends.

    Baylor Law School's CDO encourages all prospective students to spend some time thinking about their potential legal careers before making the commitment to attend law school. Many factors affect market demand for laywers, (sic) and the demand among the various practice specialties. In recent years the job market has become very challenging for law school graduates from all parts of the country.”

    ANYONE who attends law school because they are “interested in the scholarly pursuit” is a waterhead. Even if the mental midget comes from a wealthy family, this is foolish. People with brain stems go through all the trouble of going to professional school, because they want to enter worthy careers. Why the hell else would you spend seven years in “higher education,” take on significant amounts of student debt, and delay your full-time work schedule?!?!

    By the way, notice how the cockroaches misspelled the word “lawyers” – in the second paragraph. Apparently, the bitches and hags don’t know how to spell simple words. It’s even funnier when you consider that they posted this drivel, without first running it through Spell Check.

    Lastly, take a look at how the school mentions that the job market for recents JDs has become “very challenging.”

    According to the NALP Class of 2012 National Summary Report, 84.7 percent of this massive cohort was employed within nine months of graduation. This figure includes non-law positions, attorney jobs, part-time and full-time work, plus long term and temporary posts.

    Overall, there were 46,364 members of the JD Class of 2012 – competing for a total of 28,567 jobs labeled “bar passage required.” Keep in mind that not all of those positions were traditional attorney openings. Then again, only 45,434 graduates had their info sent to NALP. Using the entire class size, a mere 61.6% of all JDs ended up finding such legal work, i.e. 28,567/46,364.

    Do you like those odds, simpleton?!?! Do you still “think” it's a good idea to take on an additional $110K-$140K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt for a TT law degree from this Baptist stench pit?!

    1. Has anybody gotten any useful assistance from their school's CDO? After the 9-month mark, they wouldn't even respond to emails... CDO's exist to juice the employment "statistic," I know that, but you'd think they would at least make it LOOK like they were trying.

  27. Interesting article about the uselessness of law reviews:

  28. This law school is a genuine piece o' shit.

  29. I don't know what athletic coaches have to do with your post. Baylor made $18 million from the Fiesta Bowl alone. This doesn't include ticket sales, nike contracts (usually in $4-8 million range), summer camps, etc. Coaches not only earn their salaries but are a big part in bringing in huge sums of money to universities.

    1. Hello, Ignorant Bitch. Get your facts straight before coming on this site, cockroach.

      Take a look at this September 15, 2013 USA Today piece from Cliff Peale. The article is entitled "Athletics cost colleges, student millions."

      “College sports create undeniable campus pride and identity, but spending has increased so fast it's taking money from academics and student services.

      The University of Cincinnati and Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, for example, added $6 million and $1.2 million, respectively, this year to prop up their already heavily subsidized sports programs and keep up in the national arms race.

      "There's always a ripple effect. They say, 'We've got to keep up to be competitive,'" said Brit Kirwan, chancellor of the University System of Maryland and co-chairman of the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics. "When we reach the breaking point, I don't know."

      The Knight Commission says Division I schools with football spent $91,936 per athlete in 2010, seven times the spending per student of $13,628. Division I universities without football spent $39,201 per athlete, more than triple the average student spending.

      Nearly every university loses money on sports. Even after private donations and ticket sales, they fill the gap by tapping students paying tuition or state taxpayers.

      Athletics is among the biggest examples of the eruption in spending by universities that has experts concerned about whether higher education can sustain itself.

      The lethal combination of exploding spending, tuition and student debt could lead to a wider financial crisis, reminiscent of the Internet bubble of the late 1990s or the housing bubble in the late 2000s.”

      This is a well known fact, moron: nearly every univer$ity loses money on its athletics programs. By the way, cretin: I attended an undergrad school where the football team won both of its BCS bowl games. The school does not get to keep all of that money, dolt, as they split the loot with the other members of their respective conference.

      Pull you head out of your ass, mental midget. When you develop a brain stem, you can return to post comments on this blog.

  30. First of all, what the heck is TTT? Second, as a BU law student, I completely agree with a the bitching on this blog. The place is a shithole. If I could have gotten into TX I would be in Austin, looking forward to a job when I graduate. Instead I'm studying at "BAYLOR" (insert hick voice) where everyone thinks they go to the best school in the country. Seriously, these people think its the best law school. Forget Yale, Harvard, Stanford. Someone needs to tell these ignorant people that this school is ranked 51 in the nation! If I can give anyone advice about law school, it is DO NOT go to Baylor... Unless you really want to be miserable.

  31. Sad. Baylor has roughly the same price tag as Harvard with a quarter of the reputation. Why bother? If you can get into Baylor, why not apply elswhere...


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