Thursday, November 14, 2013

First Tier Vomit: Vanderbilt University Law School

Tuition: Full-time law students at Vanderbilt Univer$ity will be ass-raped to the tune of $47,746 in tuition - for the 2013-2014 school year.  These sewer rats are essentially charging medical school rates.  In fact, Vanderbilt Law charges a higher amount of tuition than the Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, i.e. $44,030.  Someone explain to me how in the hell the law school incurs higher costs than the medical school!

Estimated Cost of Attendance: According to this same document, living expenses will add another $21,198 to the gigantic tab.  Loan fees account for an additional $1,158, while books and supplies amount to $1,842.  Using the first tier toilet’s numbers, the total COA - for the 2013-2014 academic year - is $71,944.

At least, the pigs at Vanderbilt are up front about basing their living costs on a nine-month school year.  Actual law students will require twelve months of expenses.  In order to reach a more accurate figure, we need to prorate the following items: housing; miscellaneous; meals; and transportation.  After doing so, the total estimated cost of attendance - for 2013-2014 - amounts to $79,010.  Yes, the school truly cares about the students, right?!?!

Ranking: Bob Morse and US “News” & World Report lists Vanderbilt Univer$ity Law Sewer as the 15th best law school in the entire damn country.  It only shares this distinction with one other ABA-accredited commode, i.e. the Univer$ity of Texa$ $chool of Law.

Employment Placement Statistics: The Class of 2012 had 196 members.  Of this amount, three graduates did not supply their job status to the school.  Ten JDs from this cohort were unemployed.  Notice that the bitches and hags cannot add, as the column only amounts to 195.  As such, the employment “placement” rate was 94.8 percent, i.e. 182/192.

Under Employment Types, you will notice that 52% of employed grads went to work for private law firms - of any size.  From this segment, 37 percent were hired by firms of more than 500 attorneys.  Basically, 18.24% of this class entered Biglaw, i.e. 94.8*0.52*0.37.  Still like your odds, ass-clown?!?!

Average Law Student Indebtedness: USN&WR lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the Vanderbilt JD Class of 2012 who incurred debt for law school - as $124,493. Yet, “only” 76 percent of this school’s 2012 class took on such vile debt. Remember that this figure does not include undergraduate debt – and it also does not take accrued interest into account, while the student is enrolled.

Law Faculty and Administrator Salary Info: Let’s see how well the academic thieves are doing, in juxtaposition with their debt-strapped students.  In order to do so, we will look at the 2012 Form 990.  Head all the way down to pages 359 and 360 of this document, to find highest paid swine.  Yes, you read that correctly.  Can you believe this nonsense?!?!  The following TOTAL COMPENSATION figures are for the tax year ending on June 30, 2012.

Nicholas Zippos “serves” as chancellor, but he is also listed as a “professor of law.”  This rodent raked in $1,234,749 - with $1,007,183 coming in base salary.  Meanwhile, David Williams II rolled around in $1,215,566 - for his dual role as vice chancellor for university affairs and athletics and “law professor.”  Who says that “higher education” doesn’t pay off handsomely?!

Vandy Law Grads Waiting Tables:  Check out this story, from Jennifer Brooks, which appeared in the February 16, 2010 edition of The Tennessean.  It was entitled “Young law school grads face uncertain job market.”  Read the excerpt below:

"After graduation, I think as many as 20 to 25 percent of my (classmates) were laid off. Either they had (job) offers taken back, or they worked a few months and then were laid off," said Sarah Laird, who graduated from Vanderbilt Law School in 2008, just as the economy was beginning to tank and her classmates were beginning to notice that lucrative job offers from big corporate law firms weren't rolling in as expected.

Laird landed a clerkship with the state court of criminal appeals. Some of her classmates weren't so fortunate.

"I know a couple that waited tables. I've even done that, when I needed some extra money," she said." [Emphasis mine]

Yes, what great outcomes for graduates of the co-15th greatest law school in the country, right?!?!

Vanderbilt Law Faculty Member Warns Students About Law School: Back on October 29, 2009, Herwig Schlunk published a draft law and economics paper entitled “Mamas Don’t Let You Babies Grow Up To Be…Lawyers.”  In that document, Schlunk concluded that law school is a poor investment for MOST students.  I remember citing to this paper during the early days of the scamblog movement.  Now, look how far the message has spread since that time.

Conclusion: Vanderbilt University Law Sewer is ridiculously overpriced.  REMEMBER, THE VANDERBILT LAW SCHOOL PIGS CHARGE MORE IN TUITION THAN THE MEDICAL SCHOOL!!  You will essentially be required to take on an additional $135K-$170K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt - for a chance to enter the legal “profession.”  Also,  it is significant that the two founders of Law School Transparency were former students at Vanderbilt Law.  Plus, don’t forget the importance of VULS “professor” Herwig Schlunk’s law and economics paper.  In sum, avoid this commode unless you come from a wealthy family and you don’t really need a career.


  1. "...the total estimated cost of attendance - for 2013-2014 - amounts to $79,010."

    Multiply that figure by three, and then tack on interest accumulating while you're in school. Fast-forward to after graduation - the interest ALONE will be unmanageable for most graduates. It's economic suicide, plain and simple.

    1. That is a great point regarding the interest and is vastly understated. I think in addition to adding in the total costs for 12 months of living a running count of accumulated interest should always be thrown in.

  2. Holy cow. One million plus salaries for worthless admunistrators? Got to admit, these people are pieces if garbage. Their audacity in compensating themselves so much at the expense of their students is breathtaking.

  3. You've posted pictures of shit (which I think does accurately describe the schools and the product) for years. But that has got to be the nastiest photo I've ever seen on this blog.

  4. I went to this school. I was amazed by the number of law grads working as waiters and shoe salesman after graduation. It is an extremely expensive school. Zeppos, now Chancellor was a civil procedure professor. With his bonus and other perks, his pay is over $2.5 million...disgusting.

  5. Vanderbilt grads will have to compete with those from Belmont, a newly accredited bottom-rung school also operating in Nashville. I don't mean for law jobs-- nobody is going to hire out of Belmont. I mean that unemployed Vandy and Belmont grads will compete against each other for waiter jobs.

    1. 14.5% were working for restaurants with more than 100 employees, 5.8% were working for restaurants with 11-100 employees, 7.2% were working for restaurants with 2-10 employees. No word on whether any started their own restaurants.

  6. Holy shit that school is expensive. Vandy's website has 2013-2014 total estimated cost of attendance (undergrad) at $61,112. So, 4 years at that plus increases and 3 years of law school plus increases (?) will run a cool 500K. No outcome could possibly justify that.

    1. I believe that in order to attend Vanderbilt law school one has to have a bachelors degree, take out half of your total there Anonymous. Consider that with an academic scholarship of $35k per year ($105,000 over 3 years) plus any other scholarship money one could find, say $5000 over 3 years, and the $5000 tuition deferment offered through work study the summer between your first and second year, the actual out of pocket cost of a law degree from Vanderbilt comes down to approx. $120,000 over 3 years. Consider that if you attend law school and are in the top 25th percentile and you have a field of study that offers better employment opportunities and better salaries, then one's probability of success is certainly much higher. If on the other hand one goes to school to play and discover oneself, not really focus so much on actual learning and preparation for a profession, then perhaps a law degree is not the best thing to throw your money away on.

  7. Is this the school that loves to tout itself as the "Harvard of the South?" There was a time when I knew people that graduated from Vandy--bright people too. But at these insane tuition rates, you would have to be a fucking moron to attend this school in light of the dismal employment opportunities out there. In fact, their most famous recent alums includes those two guys that run the law school transparency project.

    Cravath ain't hiring from this place. Don't believe me? Search the lawyers engine on the Cravath website for Vanderbilt grads:

    Zero. Now you may say Cravath is not the only Biglaw shop around but with the average student looking at $250-300K in student loans, working for Tom, Dick & Harry, LLP isn't going to pay your bills. Lemmings beware.

    1. Vandy class of 2011 here. Had an offer from Cravath, didn't take it. Just because none of us work there doesn't mean none of us COULD work there. Biglaw might be your goal, but it wasn't mine.

  8. Law tuition higher than med school? Now that is funny. That needs some serious explaining. I can imagine the med school dean saying the same damn thing to the dean dean.

  9. UTexas calls themselves "Harvard of the South."

  10. Vanderbilt. The name says it all. Railroad tycoon cocksucker with a university named after him.

    Rich assholes leeching off of everyone else's labor. And getting schools and endowments named after them. As a legacy. That's the name of the game. Let that be a lesson to you all.

    1. The Angry AccountantNovember 17, 2013 at 4:27 PM

      All the Railroad Tycoos were pig, vermin. It is funny hpw a lot of these vermin were religious when in reality they were satanists. They worship money at all costs. Railroad work was horrible, especially in those days, shitty pay and no work safety. They used poor Irish and Chinese immigrants to do the work. All scum of the Earth.

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  12. Stories about obscene pay to the piggies at non-profit Vanderbilt. They have no problem shafting cafeteria workers making $16,500 a year. When, I get my never ending requests for donations from Vanderbilt, I always think why don't they cut some of these bloated salaries.
    Law schools are mainly run for the benefit of high level faculty. The trustees and faculty are too cozy, so they will approve anything.

    Vanderbilt Sets an Expensive Precedent, With 10 Million-Dollar-Plus Earners

    Councilman to Vanderbilt: 'Do the right thing' for dining workers

  13. @5:42PM

    I extend the same offer of peace that I made to Mr. Infinity:

    Just cut it out and all will be forgotten and half ass forgiven though I'm still annoyed and I don't even want a real apology.

    Yeah I sat in Alcoholics Anonymous meetings and heard the lawyers talk about their substance abuse problems and everybody clapped and cheered and I suspect you are like that.

    Your racist remarks will really get you in trouble though if you don't straighten out and get sober and in your right mind.

  14. I thought UTexas was the "Cornell of the South."

    1. As a Cornell alum I'm offended. We are barely Ivy League, but don't confuse use for the south (save for Duke, I would accept that comparison)

  15. Keep in mind that Schlunk made some big-ass assumptions at the start of his conclusion - on the bottom of the 8th page:

    “I assume that each of my law school graduates has an expected 35-year legal career. I also assume that the incremental earnings from a law degree are earned as an annuity with a 3.5% annual growth factor reflecting increased productivity.” [Internal citation removed]

    I suppose you can’t have an economics paper without a bunch of assumptions.

    Now, head down to pages 10 and 11 of the PDF:

    “How does the current state of the market for entry-level law school graduates affect the analysis? It does so in three ways, I think. First, it means that the expected immediate pay-off of a law degree earned today may be less than was anticipated; currently, not even a Harvard graduate is guaranteed that he will get, much less be able to keep, a Biglaw job. Second, it means that the incremental income stream from a law degree is actually more risky than recent law school attendees have probably been led to believe. And this, in turn, means that the appropriate discount rate is surely higher than the one such attendees have implicitly been using.

    But there is a third effect as well, and it may be the most important of all. There is no reason to believe that the currently-experienced changes in the legal market for freshly-minted law school graduates are temporary; indeed, some legal scholars think they may well be permanent. If so, then it is not just the current crop of Hot Prospects, but all future crops as well, who will need to ratchet down their expectations not only with respect to first-year compensation, but also with respect to job security and chances for partnership. And that could easily tip the balance with respect to the investment decision from somewhat positive to decidedly negative.” [Internal citations removed]

    The legal “profession” is undergoing a fundamental restructuring, along with the rest of the U.S. economy.

    Hell, back on April 1, 2009, Adam Cohen’s piece, “With the Downturn, It’s Time to Rethink the Legal Profession,” appeared in the New York Times.”

    “The economic downturn is hitting the legal world hard. American Lawyer is calling it “the fire this time” and warning that big firms may be hurtling toward “a paradigm-shifting, blood-in-the-suites” future. The Law Shucks blog has a “layoff tracker,” and it is grim reading. Top firms are rapidly thinning their ranks, and several — including Heller Ehrman, a venerable 500-plus-lawyer firm founded in 1890 — have closed…

    Leading firms have historically avoided mass layoffs, concerned that their reputations would take a hit. But some have been putting those inhibitions aside, perhaps calculating that the stigma of pushing out their colleagues has faded.”

  16. Cryn Johannsen is now is a writer for a company called "DNS Made Easy."

    Here is a definition of DNS below:


    (1) Short for Domain Name System (or Service or Server), an Internet service that translates domain names into IP addresses. Because domain names are alphabetic, they're easier to remember. The Internet however, is really based on IP addresses. Every time you use a domain name, therefore, a DNS service must translate the name into the corresponding IP address. For example, the domain name might translate to

    The DNS system is, in fact, its own network. If one DNS server doesn't know how to translate a particular domain name, it asks another one, and so on, until the correct IP address is returned.

    (2) Short for digital nervous system,a term coined by Bill Gates to describe a network of personal computers that make it easier to obtain and understand information.


    Here is the link to what is possibly the most recent article by Cryn and for DNS made easy:

    Strange to me and incongruous with Cryn Johannsen's educational background.

  17. Sorry, this link shows who the author of the Nov 14, 2013 DNS Made Easy Press release is:

  18. The parent company of DNS imade easy is called Tigee and Steven Job is I am sure an acquaintance of Cryn and here is his some info on Steven Job:

    Still digging, but I wonder if there is some stockholdings in Sallie Mae or similar financial entity's that deal with student loans by Steven Jobs and the companies he owns or represents?

    A 10K or annual report would reveal such things and I still think a publicly traded company is obligated to mail a hardbound copy of their annual report to any member of the public that requests it.

  19. Correct spelling: TIGGEE

  20. Just one more quote from the parent company of the company that Cryn Johannsen writes for now:

    "Tiggee has years of experience in designing and building state and local government systems. There is no doubt that Tiggee has the solution for your requirements."

    Maybe Alan Collinge was right all along and called it when he said in so many words that Cryn works for the banks and in my suspicion the US government that is beholden to the banks.

    And to think.... Cryn was the very first commenter on the Paul Campos ILSS blog and even offered her help in getting some publicity for Campos as an anon blog.

  21. I hear that Cryn Johannsen gives excellent head.

    1. That's funny. I heard she likes it when men sucks on her toes and cum on her belly.

  22. Congrats Mr. Koch on getting over 10K hits on your site Student Loan Debtors Anonymous!

    1. What percentage are from Department of Homeland Security because of his suicide stories posting?

    2. Most were actually bf that post. Again, keep on with your entries Mr. Koch!

  23. You mean this?

  24. Thank you for those links, 6:01 pm. First, I’ll take a look at the July 8, 2010 piece from Alexandra Tinsley. The article was entitled “Vanderbilt Sets an Expensive Precedent, With 10 Million-Dollar-Plus Earners” - and appeared in the Chronicle of Higher Education. This portion shows what the pigs truly care about, i.e. raking in the money!

    “Vanderbilt University isn't afraid to pay to get what it wants: Ten of its employees earned more than $1-million in 2008, and four of those employees broke the $2-million mark, according to the university's most recent tax filing.

    The numbers, which resulted in part from large retention bonuses paid to top administrators, are unprecedented. In the previous reporting year, relatively few colleges nationwide had more than one employee who earned more than $1-million, and the largest number of million-dollar employees at any one university was seven—also at Vanderbilt.”

    This is the endgame. The online “viewbooks” and glossy brochures and DVDs showing manicured lawns, bridges, architecture and trees in autumn are simply designed to lure in suckers.

    As noted in this September 2011 Travel + Leisure magazine article, “America’s Most Beautiful College Campuses”:

    “If you ask freshmen why they chose their colleges, they usually say one of two things,” says Baltimore architect Adam Gross, who’s worked on projects at the University of Virginia and Swarthmore. “Either they got a good financial aid package or they thought the campus was beautiful.”

    Why the hell do you think these college$ and univer$ity pigs spend so much on maintaining their campuses?!?! Coupled with PR and college fairs, the greedy bastards are making a hard sell. When recruiters, i.e. salespeople, see you at those artificial settings, do you think - for one goddamn second - that they have the slightest interest in your future?!?!

    YOU are a mere target to these cockroaches. The same applies to the law school swine. You will notice that the commodes are starting to rely on young men and women to represent the school at the fairs. They will smile and be polite, and then they will mention how their school has the “2nd best environmental law program in the entire country” - or they will highlight the school’s “innocence project.”

    In the end, they know that they are competing with 200 other ABA-accredited commodes. On the undergrad level, there were 2,774 U.S. colleges that granted four year degrees in 2009-2010 - according to the National Center for Education Statistics. They need to make their brand stand out, in order to get more asses in seats - and keep the federally-backed student loan spigot running.


    Head back to the 2012 Form 990 for Employer ID No. 62-0476822, i.e. Vanderbilt University. Look at lines 20-22 on the first page. As of June 30, 2012, the $chool had $7,437,841,959 in TOTAL ASSETS. The pigs also held total liabilities of $2,439,535,434 on that date. As noted on line 22, this “non-profit in$titution of higher learning” had TOTAL END OF YEAR NET ASSETS amounting to $4,998,306,525!!

    Can anyone say - with a straight face - that these rodents are putting the students’ interest first?!?! The kids are just a means to an end. It is that simple.

    Thanks again to the commenter from 6:01 pm, for the link to the City Paper‘s May 18, 2012 piece labeled “Councilman to Vanderbilt: 'Do the right thing' for dining workers.” The reporter was Joey Garrison. This opening truly makes one want to throw up all over the floor:

    “A Metro Councilman has asked Vanderbilt University to sit down with the school’s dining workers to “work towards improving their quality of life” and perhaps find them employment over the summer instead of laying them off each May.

    “This is an opportunity to continue to win over the hearts of Nashvillians and do the right thing here,” first-year District 7 Councilman Anthony Davis wrote to Vanderbilt Chancellor Nichloas Zeppos in a May 10 letter.

    “The dining employees are simply underpaid to raise a family,” he wrote. “There should also be a grand effort to give them summer employment if at all possible.”

    Notice how the pigs at all of these august in$titution$ always pay the cafeteria workers and landscapers dirt wages - and then lay them off first when times get a little “tough.” Again, this univer$ity has an endowment of just under $5 billion!

    That alone tells you all you need to know about college administrators, law school officials and the cockroach-infested boards of regents and boards of trustees. These men and women have NO INTEGRITY. They merely want to keep the money flowing in - and they have not the slightest concern about the students or lower end workers. It goes without saying that they don’t even consider the taxpayers.

    At this point, ANYONE defending the “higher education” $y$tem is a piece of trash. I don’t care if you are being paid to represent these demons. If you are knowingly participating in the scam, then you are a vile pig, as well.

    1. That's the way I feel about it. Anyone who defends the Higher Ed. Scam and esp. those who do and take any money and profit from it.

      These morons ... you have to wonder if they understand how the Internet works or the power of it. The school treats cafeteria workers like this, how do the students - whose tuition / Fed. loan money pays their salaries - think they fit into the Equation?

      These people don't care. One bit. It's all about the money. Nothing more. Nothing less.

      And if you thought students at Duke needed a trust fund, that must go triple for this shithole. You'd better have one or come from money willing to pay your way.

      No way - No way - any law school should cost more than any med school. Period. Pure scam. Plain and simple.

  26. I was kicked off the OLSS blog, but still I have a suspicion that this comment is from the same troll that has been obsessed with me for the last couple of years give or take some months:

    The thing of it is is that I was accused by OLSS of making his comments.

    And if you care to go above and read a prior comment it must be him too:

  27. You have to be fucking kidding me about law school costing more than medical school. Is this really true? If so, it is criminal what these scam law deans are getting away with.

    1. If you don't like it then go to another law school.

  28. The Valvoline Dean is the Themistocles of Newark Bay. Honor and libations unto Him.

  29. Pre-law advisors should be held accountable for abetting this horrific scam. They know the employment numbers, but then again these self serving pinheads would themselves be on the street if the law school industry contracts.

  30. Nando,

    Just got an alumni letter from my alma mater (Tulane LS) asking for money as usual. Two items in the letter caught my attention. First of all, they referred to having "a smaller, stronger law school" with a 30 percent reduction (from 250 to 182 students) over the next two years. They also spoke of a "lawyering skills boot camp" (are you kidding me?) with over 100 lawyers coming to the school to teach these skills. I wonder why the profs aren't doing this as the students certainly pay them enough. Anyway, asking an alumnus for money at this stage is like a burglar asking for a loan after he cleaned out your house! What unbelievable audacity!!!

  31. The federal government created a monster in higher education. By facilitating enormous amounts of non-dischargeable student loans to clueless 18 year olds and scared 22 year olds, the emboldened the law schools to charge more, which meant more money in the pot to distribute to lazy and greedy law school deans and professors.

    As law graduates, you can do something to slay the beast. My preferred method of killing the monster is by starving it. No more donations, contributions or endowments. Every year my alma mater gets more desperate for contributions. I used to get 2 or 3 solicitations for donations a year. Now, it seems that I get one every month. The also have current law school students call asking for money. On one occasion, I asked the student what year they were in. She stated she was a 3L. I asked her if she had a job lined up and she told me she had some "feelers" out there. I then apologized (for having been duped) and wished her good luck in her future.

    Let the schools waste the postage and stationery sending these outlandish requests for money. In my experience, the money never goes to the students and it always either goes into building more facilities, establishing some ego-stroking chair (e.g., Karl Llewellyn Professor of Law & Philosophy), sending professors to fancy conferences in Hawaii or into the administrators' pockets. If you give money to your law school, then you are a glutton for punishment seeing as they already took 3 years of your life and left you with a lifetime of debt and usually nothing to show for it.

    1. I have a form letter addressed to the dean that I include in the "postage prepaid" return envelope that comes with those - don't know if they get to him, but somebody opens the mail....

  32. Chancellor Zeppos, the million dollar man, panhandles for more money from the federal government. I guess even with sky high tuition, non-profit status, endless fundraisers, government back student loans, Pell grants, GI Bill benefits, and an over $4,000,000,000 endowment, there are still opportunities to reach out for more money from the federal government.

    Rush Limbaugh talks about Chancellor Zeppos, former Civil Procedure law professor's bloated salary:

    Big News. Tuition at the law school is drastically slashed? No. It has increased at the slowest rate since 1966, only 2.7% for the year. After years of huge increases, considering the economy was in negative growth, recessionary, ANY increase is out of line with the economy and certainly legal employment. It is not BIG NEWS to only increase tuition by 2.7%, is that their idea of sharing in the pain! Clueless, idiotic!

    The Billionaire Head of the Board of Trustee's get's her butt kissed, a statute, and the trustees hand out unprecedented millions of dollars to the administrators in salaries:

  33. As a student at the co-15th best law school diploma mill in the country, you will have the unique opportunity to write onto the world-renowned Environmental Law and Policy Annual Review. From the publicaTTTion’s description:

    "For Interested Students

    Work on The Environmental Law and Policy Annual Review qualifies for one academic credit per semester, and students have the option of working on the review for up to four semesters. Enrollment, open to interested second- and third-year students, is subject to the approval of the instructors, Professor Michael Vandenbergh and Linda Breggin.

    Enrollment is limited to a maximum of 20 students per semester. Students will earn one academic credit each semester (up to a total of four credits over four semesters), and participation in this course does not preclude membership on the editorial staff of one of Vanderbilt Law School's three scholarly journals, which include The Vanderbilt Law Review, The Vanderbilt Journal of Transnational Law and The Vanderbilt Journal of Entertainment and Technology Law."

    You can also become a student editor of the presTTTigious Vanderbilt Journal of Entertainment & Technology Law. If the following text does not excite you, then consider yourself normal.

    “The 2013-2014 JETLaw Symposium, “Patents 101: Eligibility from Computer Code to Genetic Codes” examines the interaction of Section 101 and patent eligibility of software and DNA, as well as the implication of current jurisprudence on patent eligible subject matter. With the recent Supreme Court decision in Myriad and the number of cases in recent years addressing the patent eligibility of software, Section 101 has once again moved to the forefront of patent litigation. Chief Judge Randall Rader of the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit will deliver the keynote address and will be joined at the Symposium by Judge Kent Jordan of the US Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, former USPTO Solicitor John Whealan, and leading scholars from across the country.

    Date: Friday, January 24, 2014
    Location: Vanderbilt Law School
    Symposium Schedule [forthcoming]”

  34. Hezus Kristos man... ENOUGH already with the fucking Environmental Law and Blah and So-and-So "prestigious" journals.

    What, exactly, is it about these rags that causes idealistic Lemmings to drool. IF they had a brain, they would know that "environmental law" consists largely of assisting greedy, piggish, uncaring, polluting corporations - Can you say GE? - in getting around existing laws.

    Enough already!

    Just more BS grist for the mill..

    1. Haha you nailed it. God only knows how many young idealistic 1Ls are drawn to these environmental law programs because they want to save the earth, only to find that they cant get an environmental law job, or if they do, it is a job enabling corporations to pollute the earth.

  35. Nando - in case you missed this -

  36. I wish these new students understood how sleazy law practice has become. Biglaw on down. I have decided I would rather swat flies for a living than continue in this vile septic tank of a profession.

  37. I graduated in the top half of my class from Vandy Law. I now live in a motor home with 3 of my old buddies from law school. Yeehaw! Go Vols!

  38. Actually, Zeppos' salary is now over $2 million.

  39. I graduated from there many years ago. While things worked out, from day one I regretted my decision to go there. The bright ones left after the first semester.


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