Sunday, January 12, 2014

Second Tier Scalding Hot Sewage: University of South Carolina School of Law


http://www.law.sc.edu/admissions/tuition.shtml

Tuition: In-state residents attending this trash pit on a full-time basis will be charged $22,360 in tuition, for the 2013-2014 school year.  Non-resident, full-time law students who received a merit scholarship will pay $24,688 in tuition - for 2013-2014.  Of course, those who do not have such an offer will be ass-raped to the tune of $44,752, for the current academic year.

Estimated, Total Cost of Attendance: The pigs provided the following additional costs: books, $994; room, $10,237; board, $2,352; transportation, $1,665; and personal expenses, $2,420.  Using the commode’s figures, this would amount to a total COA of $40,028 for full-time law students who are South Carolina residents - whereas their non-resident counterparts will face a total budget of $62,420.

For $ome rea$on, the bitches and hags at ABA-accredited diploma mills always use a nine month estimate on living expenses.  We will prorate the following items to reflect the reality that actual students require costs over the full year: room, board, transportation and miscellaneous.  Doing so, these expenditures add up to $22,231.  After including textbooks and tuition, we reach the following, estimated cost of attendance for the first year of law school at the Univer$iTTy of $ouTTh Carolina Sewer of Law: $45,585 for in-state residents and $67,977 for out of state students.  Who says that state schools are affordable?!?!

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings/page+4

Ranking: At such prices, one would expect this public “non-profit” in$titution to have a stellar reputation in the legal and academic communities, correct?!?!  Well, according to US “News” & World Report, the University of South Carolina Sewer of Law is the 98th greatest, most fantastic and amazing law school in the entire United States.  What a tremendous accomplishment!

http://www.law.sc.edu/career/docs/NALP-Class_of_2012_Summary.pdf

Published Employment Placement and Salary Statistics: Based on the trash heap’s 2012 Employment Summary, there were 226 members of this cohort.  Seven grads did not bother to report their status to the school.  Apparently, these JDs had more important things to do, such as finding a damn job.  Of the remaining amount, a total of 196 reported being employed within nine months of graduation.  As such, the commode’s “placement” was 89.5%, i.e. 196/219.

Scroll down to the bottom of page 2 of this PDF.  Under Size of Firm, you will see that a total of 76 graduates - from the Class of 2012 - ended up working in private law practices.  This figure includes three desperate solos - and 33 poor bastards who were hired by firms of 2-10 lawyers.  Another 14 landed in offices of 11-25 lawyers.  By the way, only 39 of these private practitioners reported their salary info to the school.  That speaks volumes!  Also, six damn members of this cohort were employed by law firms with more than 500 attorneys.  That is super-fantastic, huh?!?!

On the top of the first page, the pigs list Full Time, Long-Term Salaries.  You will see that only 116 grads provided such info to the Office of Career Services ass-clowns.  Here are the figures: 25th percentile, $40,334; median, $49,025; 75th percentile, $60,000; and a mean of $57,000.  Those numbers are not impressive - especially when you look at the level of student debt taken on by the last graduating class.  Furthermore, if the ABA and NALP were concerned with honesty and integrity in the slightest, then the schools would be required to include short-term and part-time salaries, as well.  That would give applicants a better picture of the job market and their potential income.

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/grad-debt-rankings/page+7

Average Law Student Indebtedness: US “News” lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the Univer$iTTy of $ouTTh Carolina JD Class of 2012 who incurred debt for law school - as $85,602. Hell, 82 percent of this toilet’s 2012 class took on such toxic debt. Remember that this figure does not include undergraduate debt – and it also does not take accrued interest into account, while the student is enrolled.

Conclusion: If you value your future, then do not attend this sweltering dung pit.  Get this fact through your thick skull, Lemming: only ONE THIRD of this cesspool’s 2012 graduating class, ended up working in private law practice!  Again, that includes desperate solo attorneys and those working in toilet law.  Could you imagine if U.S. medical students faced such outcomes?!?!  Hell, MDs would grab the administrators of such a program - and beat them senseless with bamboo sticks.

You will not be served well by incurring an additional $95K-$135K in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt, for a chance to enter the GLUTTED legal “profession.”  Don’t forget the salary data furnished by 116 grads to the school.  Keep in mind that this represents a mere 59.2 percent of those who reported being employed within nine months of graduation from this garbage pile, i.e. 116/196.  Use your gray matter, potential law students.  You likely wouldn’t purchase a car if the customer reviews were this poor.  Why in the hell would you piss away three years of your life - and take on ridiculous amounts of debt - for such prospects?!?!  In the immortal words of Tyler Durden, “You are not special.  You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake.”

20 comments:

  1. 400 new lawyers per year into the hole state of South Carolina. But the other one is Infilaw owned ...

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  2. Looks like one of those schools where you have to be at the very top of the class to have a reasonable shot at a good job (or have excellent connections).

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  3. But, but, but Leiter says law school pays off for even the people in the bottom of most law schools.

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  4. That sewer drain represents the law school. And the crap coming out are the students being dumped out into a flooded job market.

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  5. Those numbers are shit. After rent, food, taxes, and utilities, $50k looks like crap. And with an average of $85k student loan debt to pay off, it looks even worse.. Then, of course, there's the unemployment periods. And underemployment, etc. None of the above factor into the raw, some might say fantastical, numbers provided by the schools.

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  6. I graduated from this school 6 yrs ago. After having to defer repayment on my loans twice (periods of unemployment) I now owe $30,000 more now than when I graduated. And I only make $35K. That's before taxes and insurance. My wife divorced me last year. I make so little, she actually pays me alimony. That's not what she expected when she married a young law student. So for anyone to say law school pays off in the long run for pretty much everyone, go fuck yourself.

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  7. If you go to Wikipedia and read its ranking you will notice this turd sank to the bottom in 2011 and was unranked third tier and the previous Dean stepped down. Then it floated back up in the toilet to # 98. Who knows where in the toilet it will be next year?

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  8. This gives an interesting historical sketch, but the author, who is a law professor, commits himself to nothing regarding the crisis and scam:

    http://blog.oup.com/2014/01/current-crisis-in-american-legal-education/

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  9. That tuition rate is ridiculous. The job outlook is shit for most grads but they're charging a king's ransom.

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  10. Check out this garbage description of the Real Property, Trust & Estate Law Journal - from the Univer$iTTy of $ouTTh Carolina Sewer of Law:

    http://www.law.sc.edu/rptelj/

    “Statement of Purpose

    The University of South Carolina School of Law plays an integral role in the publication of the Real Property, Trust & Estate Law Journal (RPTE Law Journal), a peer review law journal published by the American Bar Association's Section of Real Property, Trust and Estate Law. The Journal is published on a quarterly basis, and is the premier scholarly publication in the property and probate fields. It is the second largest law review in the country in terms of numbers of subscribers. The Journal's 22,000 subscribers include Section members as well as major law firms and law libraries. Articles in the Journal are written by leading practitioners and academicians from across the United States.

    USC students perform the core editing for the Journal, ensuring that its rigorous scholarly standards are maintained.

    USC's association with the ABA and the Real Property, Trust & Estate Law Journal brings considerable respect and national attention to our University, and we are committed to maintaining the Journal's high standard of excellence. The Student Editorial Board shares the Section's goal of providing the highest quality scholarly publication covering topics of interest for practitioners and academicians in the areas of real property, probate, estate planning, and trust law.”

    Yes, many people use this publicaTTTion to wipe their ass with, when they run out of toilet paper. Evidently, it also makes a nice coaster for beverages. What a prestigious journal, huh?!?!

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  11. Just another overpriced shithole law school.

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  12. Does anyone else find it damn sad that I read these tuiton numbers and thought shit that's cheap for fucking law school. Lmfao what a racket these rapists have going.

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  13. Federal Student Loan focus reveals recognition of threat to economy:

    http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloomberg/article/Fed-Student-Loan-Focus-Reveals-Recognition-of-5144832.php

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  14. 733,

    It's all relative, man. Parasite singles who prey on their parents for life (to say nothing of the taxpayers) are a far greater threat to the "economy" - they are basically superfuturistic 21st-century digital LOCUSTS.

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  15. "This is a microcosm of the greater economy - an economy that has produced the "lost generation" of young Americans (18-34 year olds) with an unemployment rate of nearly double the national average. A generation for which underemployment is the norm. A generation often burdened with tens of thousands of dollars in education debt, and unable to secure employment and compensation commensurate to their skills and education despite doing all the right things, doing what almost ensured success for prior generations of Americans."


    http://politix.topix.com/news/9807-i-went-undercover-and-learned-a-shocking-truth-many-americans-are-working-for-nothing

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    1. And this generation (mine) keeps voting for politicians from both parties who institute huge programs of generational theft to keep our parents' generation living fat off the government hog.

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  16. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_South_Carolina_School_of_Law#Ranking_and_recognition

    “Ranking and recognition

    The 2011 edition of U.S. News & World Report's Best Law Schools saw South Carolina Law fall to the unranked third tier of schools. In response to the drop in rankings it was announced that that Dean Walter "Jack" Pratt would step down following the 2010-2011 academic year. The 2010 edition of U.S. News & World Report's Best Law Schools ranked South Carolina Law was ranked 87th.” [Internal citations removed]

    See how much hinges on these idiotic rankings schemes? I’m sure that Old Wrinkled Vagina Bob Morse creams his panties knowing that he has this effect on the law school cockroaches.

    This section continues:

    “South Carolina Law was also ranked #54 overall according to the 2010 ranking by the AALS. The ILRG ranked South Carolina Law #68 overall in its 2009 ranking of law schools. The ILRG also has numerous other categories and ranks South Carolina law as the #75 most selective law school, #94 for job placement before graduation, #95 for job placement after 9 months, #27 for best bar passer rates among first time takers, and #44 when ranking the school versus the state average for bar passage rates. Law & Politics' 2010 ranking of law schools ranked South Carolina Law #38 overall. TLS' ranking of most desirable law schools lists South Carolina as the #10 most desirable law school in the country. Law.com ranks South Carolina law as #94 overall for best job placement and employment trends into "BigLaw". In 2010, The Hylton Rankings place South Carolina Law #90 overall among all law schools. Leiter's ranks South Carolina Law's Professor David G. Owen as #7 among most cited law professors in the field of Tort Law. Most recently, South Carolina Law moved back into the Top 100 law schools in the 2014 edition of U.S. News & World Report's "Best Law Schools" at #98.” [Internal citations removed]

    Yes, people really care about these other moronic ratings. By the way, who the hell knew that there so many worthless law school rankings schemes in existence?!?! It’s well known that the people who come up with these foolish systems have smaller balls than a gnat.

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  17. It's silly that ranking from a fucking magazine causes the law schools to run around like chickens with their heads cut off. It could be an SNL skit.

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  18. The ABA needs a coup d'├ętat. The quality standards for this profession are so low. The glutted legal field is run for the benefit of law schools, not graduates.

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  19. Interestingly I was talking to the retired general counsel of an oil major several weeks ago, and he made the point that if he were starting out today he would not attend law school.
    He said he would advise his grand children to study engineering or medicine, or otherwise learn a trade like welding or plumbing. (Welders in the Philadelphia/ New York area make over 100K with overtime).

    This guy was over 80 years old--but is aware of the dire current employment prospects in a declining legal services industry.

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