Sunday, September 28, 2014

Great News: Northwestern School of Law at Lewis and Clark College Closes Legal Clinic Due to Low Enrollment

The Pigs Cite to Smaller Revenues: On September 18, 2014, the Oregonian published a Jeff Manning article entitled “Lewis & Clark Law School closes downtown legal clinic, cites enrollment, revenue decline.” Check out this opening:

“Lewis & Clark Law School is closing its namesake legal clinic in downtown Portland that provides services to the poor, a high-profile victim of the school's budget constraints.

As Lewis & Clark and the state's two other law schools get their new years underway this month, they are dealing with 13 to 30 percent enrollment declines from the peak two to four years ago. Corresponding declines in revenue have forced the schools to cut costs, downsize staff and make other efficiency moves.

"What we have to do, like everybody else, is face budget realities," said Jennifer Johnson, the new dean at Lewis & Clark. The clinic "has largely been a tuition-driven enterprise that we can't afford. It's purely financial."

The clinic's pending closure -- the doors will close Dec. 31 -- has disturbed other public-interest lawyers in town who say the move will worsen an already significant shortage of legal services for the low-income.” [Emphasis mine]

It is ALL about the money, people! You heard if from the dean's excrement-encrusted lips. Apparently, the “professors” and administrators at this dung heap were unwilling or unable to donate their “services” – in order to keep this clinic in operation. Perhaps, the cockroaches feel that they are of best use to “the needy” and “under-represented segments of society” – by sitting in their offices, drafting law review articles and reading the Wall Street Journal.

Towards the bottom of the story, Manning reported the following:

"I don't think anybody thinks, we certainly don't, that we will go back to those big classes," Johnson said.

Meanwhile, some painful decisions have to be made, Johnson said, including closure of the legal clinic.

"Everybody is shocked by it," said Shelly Matthys, executive director of the St. Andrews Legal Clinic. "We're losing some really important, valuable representation. I know they will be sorely missed by the courthouse staff downtown."

The clinic provided debtor-creditor, landlord-tenant and family law services for low- or no cost. It offered to help people representing themselves to produce legal filings acceptable to court staff. And it offered law students, some of them from privileged backgrounds, hands-on experience in dealing with the plight of the poor.” [Emphasis mine]

It’s nice how the paper refers to some of the students as coming from privileged backgrounds. For $ome rea$on, it did not mention that the academic pinheads could use some hands-on experience in working with poor people. Then again, the swine would likely try to exploit them further.

Other Coverage: On September 2, 2014, Elie Mystal posted an ATL entry labeled “This Week In Law Schools In Trouble.” He discusses the problems at unaccredited Concordia Law Sewer, before bitch-slapping Lewi$ & Clark. Read this excerpt:

“Another tipster had this reaction:

Lewis & Clark Law School in Portland, OR is quickly becoming a bare bones operation!

They just announced a complete close down of the law schools main legal clinic! Major cuts to the law library have already been executed over this last summer.

Looks like a whole lot of students are in for an unexpected surprise on their 1st day of class Tuesday morning!” [Emphasis mine]

Yes, these are signs of financial health, correct?!?! Who wouldn’t want to enroll in this sinking turd?!

Ranking: According to the defunct magazine known as US “News” & World Report, the NorTThwe$TTern Sewer of Law at Lewi$ and Clark College is rated as the 72nd greatest, most phenomenal and amazing law school in the entire country. Hell, it “only” shares this distinct honor with the following SIX commodes: American Univer$iTTy, Chicago-Kent, LSU, New Mexico, Tennessee-Knoxville, and the University of Tulsa. What a tremendous accomplishment, huh?!?!

Average Law Student Indebtedness: US “News” lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the Lewi$ & Clark JD Class of 2013 who incurred debt for law school - as $119,048. In fact, 89 percent of this vile trash pit’s 2013 cohort took on such foul debt. Remember that this figure does not include undergraduate debt – and also does not take accrued interest into account, while the student is enrolled. Evidently, the Oregonian feels that many of the privileged few at this toilet landed slots in the affected TTT clinic. What in-depth reporting, right?!?!

Conclusion: The Northwestern School of Law of Lewis and Clark College, i.e. Lewis & Clark Law Sewer, is a pathetic sewage pit. The law school pigs DO NOT GIVE ONE DAMN about their students. Why the hell would they care about broke-ass people seeking legal assistance?!?! In the final analysis, the rodents at ABA-accredited diploma mills realize that they are circling the drain. They can continue to drop admi$$ion$ “standards” further – but this will lead to lower bar passage results. Will they then pay students - in cash - not to take the exam? Something has to give, people. State bar associations, clients and the general public – including social commentators – will start to catch onto the scam. Do you think those groups will keep their mouths shut?!


  1. My cousin graduated from there several years ago … and has never practiced. One of those people with a decent technical background who was employable before they matriculated.

    Too bad about the clinic, as it may be the only real-world experience some L&C students get.

  2. Just closing down the clinic? Shut down the whole fucking law school. Oh, but wait...that would affect professors.

  3. This story illustrates the antiquity of tenure and the administration's allegiance to faculty and willful disregard of the students' best interests.

    Most clinics are taught or supervised by adjuncts (non-tenure lecturers) who usually get paid no more than $10K to teach a semester. Tenured law professors hate adjuncts because 1) adjuncts actually know how to practice law; and, 2) adjuncts are respected more by students who feel they are being taught practical skills rather than useless and trite doctrines.

    The administration of this school chose to cut the "fat" by eliminating adjuncts who coordinate these clinics. The law students are screwed because the clinics are the only part of law school that I thought was useful. Instead, they will be dragged back to the classroom where some tenured windbag will teach "Critical Race Theory and the Law" or some other bullshit course that is designed to keep you occupied while the administration cashes and spends your student loan checks.

    These schools don't give a fuck about the students or the community. The ABA or the state bar will just raise the pro bono requirement for poor newbie grads to make up for this school's misguided priorities.

    As an aside, a colleague of mine had to close his solo shop after 11 years of practice. He cited the following as reasons for shuttering his office: 1) pro se litigants are on the rise thanks to DIY kits that are offered for free on many courts' websites or at OfficeMax/Staples; 2) new attorneys are charging low fees which takes business away from established attorneys (e.g., charging $500 for a divorce or taking 15-20% contingency fee on a PI case); 3) clients don't want to pay and will take you to fee arbitration which will cause your malpractice insurance premiums to skyrocket; 4) too many laypeople are going around offering legal services as paralegals, paralawyers, "notarios," etc. and discounting fees by thousands of dollars. The authorities will not go after these people and the state bar says it has no authority to sanction non-attorneys; and, 5) there is a small pool of paying clients out there as the recession is in full effect.

    The aforementioned reasons should be a concern to anyone thinking of applying to law school. The field is just too saturated and the days of making decent money out of this profession are long gone. It seems to me the only ones making money from the law are the professors, deans, book publishers, bar review companies, etc. The only thing you will be left with is a six figure bill which is accruing compounded interest while you sit in class and listen to mouthbreather professor proclaim how great he is and how lucky you are that he is teaching you rather than making over a million bucks as a partner at some tall building white shoe law firm.

    1. Great comment and excellent list of reasons why the profession of law is in the toilet for the most part. Unless you're a highly-specialized, extremely-experienced practitioner with a powerful referral network, you're going to need to compete viciously on price and market yourself like a payday lender. Unless you get a BigLaw gig and you somehow manage to hold onto it (it's not about "hard work" for all you idiotic hopeful law students out there), law is simply not a good way to make even a modest living as a new practitioner.

      The field is glutted beyond belief and increasingly filled with morons. Laymen are learning how to do simple legal work on their own.

      You're right about who's making money. It's like Levi Strauss when he went to California to exploit the gold rush. He made money selling supplies and clothing to all the suckers who thought they would strike it rich. It's ironic on some level that the people making money in law, which is already a parasitical profession, are parasites who feed on parasites.

      I think 2015 is going to be a glorious year for all of us who have been brutalized by the legal education industry. We are going to see the first school closings. I think we may also see the first meaningful political action on student loans. Everything up till now has been mostly meaningless (e.g., stopping the increase of loan interest and expanding the PAYE eligibility pool), but I think we're going to see some movement finally. We can all hope the legislative action will come in the form of tightened student loan lending restrictions.

      Thank you for your continuing work Nando. You should put a donate button on your site.

    2. 8:37, I saw the same thing as your friend in my town ten years ago. It's impossible to compete with cpa's realtor and other consultants who are practicing law. The bar just looks the other way and comes down hard on the poor lawyer who took a couple thousand bucks from his trust account to keep the lights on. I was lucky enough to escape ten years ago and when I got out I was very honest that I was getting out because the $$$$ didn't work. I got a bunch of condescending crap that it was too bad that it didn't work out for me and even more garbage about how great practice was for the person who was being condescending to me when i knew they were not doing as well as they said. It has been rather gratifying when two of the clowns have approached me in the last three months trying to get a job where I work now. One said things were so bad he might try to sell plasma to get by. He was only half kidding.

    3. With respect to laypeople practicing law, there are several empirical observations I wish to add. First, it seems like in densely populated cities like NYC, Miami, LA, there are many educated foreigners who are practicing law without a license. Most of these people are from Nigeria, Haiti, Central/South America, Eastern Europe, Russian and Chinese. I can assure you that most of these people have no student loans because they didn't bother attending law school or sitting for the bar exam like most lemmings. No, instead these folks target immigrant communities to file immigration petitions, divorces, draft real estate documents, mortgage loan modification documents, bankruptcy petitions and pleadings taken from CLE manuals. They will typically charge $300 to $5,000 for these legal services. Moreover, these people have an advantage in that they are not required to keep a trust account, balance business accounts, are not subject to audits, are not required to do pro bono work, do not need to pay for CLE and client protection funds. They have the best of all worlds because the police will not prosecute these people even though they are breaking the law (i.e., practicing law without a license). I know a lawyer who went to the police with victims willing to testify about a Nigerian who stole money and didn't perform the legal services he was contracted to do. The police at the station told the lawyer "You want us to eliminate your competition for you, don't you? What happened to free enterprise? Are you a communist? Don't you believe in capitalism?" The authorities simply refuse to do anything about these scofflaws.

      Another attorney I know reported a notorious notario who was submitting phony registration petitions to USICE. Again, ICE failed to do anything and the attorney was told that the notarios make their job easier since the petitions are usually denied and the immigrant client is ordered to be deported.

      Lastly, a bankruptcy attorney reported a "paralawyer" who prepared bankruptcy petitions to the US Trustee's Office. The trustees office refused to take action because these notarios fuck up simple cases that contain mistakes which lead to the discovery of non-exempt assets which the clients wind up losing.

      The state bar ethics board will say their hands are tied because they have no jurisdiction over non-attorneys. If God forbid you bounce a check on your trust account, the ethics board will be all over you and treat you like a scum criminal. How is that for justice?

      So kids, consider that when you pay more than $100K for a law degree, you will not only be competing with other established lawyers but also laypeople who practice law with impunity from the law.

      Of course your local favorite law school dean will neglect to tell you these market conditions.

    4. Just disgusting. Is there anything about our legal system that isn't completely rotten? Is there even a single redeeming quality?

    5. Yes, that's quite right 1:10 PM.

      They do nothing about the notarios but you, the person who spent $150k++ of money you didn't have and did things the "legal" and "right" way get crapped on. That, my friend, is the modern American system in a nutshell.

      And it ain't right..

  4. The school did indeed choose to cut the fat by getting rid of adjuncts. Heaven forbid the deans, admissions assholes and tenured shitbags take a pay cut.

    1. Or get their asses downtown to the law clinic.

      I note that they have an LL.M in Animal Law and in Environmental and Natural Resource Law.

  5. interesting how they have Northwestern as part of their official name...

  6. Fuck you.

    This school's doing the best it can. They're making the hard decision that got to be made.

    1. Ahh. The frustration of an apologist who see's that the end is near...

    2. You know what? Fuck you too.

      All's I'm saying is this school's not turning it's back on the community the way you guys is saying it is.

    3. Seriously, why are you here? Yes the school had to make hard choices-but instead made the easy choice-kill the clinic, doing a disservice to both its students and the community. It could have cut the pay of the dean/tenured faculty/administration-now that would have been a hard choice. But it didn't do it, because before all else, it's going to make sure that the fat cats get paid.
      This is a genuine embarrassment-and theses guys ought to be ashamed, but they have no shame.
      And in light of your finely-honed critical reasoning skills, I know your response. Save yourself the keystrokes. It must be exhausting being an apologist for the indefensible.

  7. Oh no.. 3:59 PM.

    They could've done much, much more. Why don't these overpaid douchebag professors volunteer their time to keep the clinic open? Or both their time and some money?

    Oh no.. See, it's always those who are the most vulnerable and downtrodden that should accept even more burdens. Just like NY where some Jew arbitrarily decided that 50 hours pro bono from law students was now going to be required to sit for the Bar Exam.

    Not for practicing attorneys. Not professors, etc. Only for those that could be forced to do it without pay. You know, for the "justice gap". Well, doesn't closing down a clinic create a "justice gap"?

    Guess not... Not when you're admin, staff, or some overpaid prof who talks about "justice" but won't actually DO anything about justice and helping the underprivileged.

    It's only worthwhile to be a Poverty Pimp when you're well paid, can get others to do the work for you, and have a secure job and a pension without much ado and can sit in your office reading the WSJ or Daily News for 4 hours a day and call that "work". And occasionally write a bullshit article or two or speak about all the unmet needs for "social justice" and demand for legal services - without ever having to actually DO something yourself about any of it.

    Just collect that fat paycheck and call it good.

  8. I have many friends who are lawyers, and they all have hilariously sad stories of "pro se" folks trying to litigate their own cases, or handle their own transactional/estate/trust issues, and usually end up making a complete mess of their legal situations. All because they either can't afford a lawyer's services, or simply do not want to pay.

    Money drives everything in our society, and with the "information boom", people are feeling - often wrongly - qualified to do anything that they spend twenty minutes learning about via Google. Everyone wants results, right now, and for cheap. It's the post-recession American Way.

  9. Take a look at this brilliant, anonymous comment - posted on a prior TTR entry, on September 18, 2014 at 6:52 pm:

    “From 735 to 609 (wow!!) and the school is still shuttering their clinic.

    I guess helping the poor and underprivileged gets to take a back seat to budget constraints.

    None of these noble professors, staff, and administration can volunteer time and money to keep the clinic operating?

    No one?

    Think of how thin they must be running to have to close down their clinic.

    And we all know the cause: Spend like drunken sailors on Gold-Plated Everything.

    It's all lip-service from the people in academia and it's all about getting that money.

    It's all about the money.


    This man made some excellent points, in that comment. Apparently, NONE of the filthy pig "professors," staff members, secretaries or administrators at this dump could volunteer their "services." Evidently, not a single one of these cockroaches stepped in to help save this clinic. You KNOW that none of these bitches and hags offered to donate money – from their unjustified, BLOATED salaries – to keep this program afloat. How noble and honorable, huh?!?!

    I blocked the angry bastard who posted at 12:12 pm and 1:17 pm today. Learn how to make a valid argument as to why students should take on insane levels of NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt for a watered-down law degree. Good luck with that task. Hell, “law professors” – with degrees from Ivy League schools – have not managed to do so yet.

    1. Nando, how do you expect these professors to volunteer their time at a clinic? Clinics involve real clients and the actual practice of law, not the pontification of abstract legal principles. Do you really think law professors can handle real cases? They would be doing a disservice to the community by volunteering their limited "skills."

      I agree with other commenters that the school should be offering buyouts or cutting faculty salaries before firing lowly adjuncts. These "Band-Aid on cancerous tumors" solutions will not help the law schools in the long run and they are only delaying the inevitable. Then again, what action do you expect from short-sighted law school deans?

    2. More importantly Nando, lawyers themselves - even experienced ones - are calling law school a bad bet in this day and age. This is anecdotal but speaks volumes - a family friend and Biglaw partner of many years had several strongly cautionary words when asked about the law school gamble.

      Unless you're well-connected or attending one of the top thirty or schools (I'm being generous here) on a full tuition offer, guaranteed for each year of attendance, law school is a *likely* financial ruinous bet. Even kids from the "T14" are finding themselves is very undesirable career positions.

      Law schools need to cut class sizes, some by half or more, and all of them need to seriously reduce tuition. And as we all know, many of them need to just f---ing close altogether. Student-consumers now know this, and the plummeting LSAT & law school enrollment numbers clearly reflect this fact. Thank God.

    3. How ironic that this school cut one of the few programs that benefits both the public (by providing legal services to those that can't pay) and its students (by providing practical training).

      This illustrates perfectly just where the priorities of the deans and tenured faculty are. All these places pay lip service to serving the public, but when the chips are down it's clear that public service is a low priority. Limousine liberalism at its finest - they are all for helping the poor as long as it doesn't involve their own time or money.

  10. The best way to cut the fat?

    Get rid of the highest paid assholes first. Do some buyouts. Make the profs take a significant pay cut in return for security. Oh wait...that would never happen (because the greedy whores would rather eat shit off a $5 bill and keep it than see it go to someone else.)

  11. @Nando -- you stated the following in your conclusion: "They can continue to drop admi$$ion$ “standards” further – but this will lead to lower bar passage results"

    Do you not worry that the state bars themselves will lower standards? It's very possible the bar exams will be made easier and easier in order to accommodate dumber and dumber graduates.

    For example, the NY area has the largest glue of attorneys, yet neither NY, NJ or CT (as far as I can tell) have restricted entry to practice.

    1. I have seen a brain drain in the bar for the past 10 years, but it has accelerated like a cyclone in the past 5 years. The bar will lower the standards as well. They want more customers as bar dues, CLE dues, client protection fund dues are a valuable cash grab.

      If you don't believe me (re: dumb lawyers) go to court on a motion day. You will see these lawyers make asses of themselves and most are inarticulate.

      The standards will drop across the board as the state bars are in bed with the law schools. In fact, all the courts are dismissing the lawsuits against the law schools by going ignoring the reasonable person standard and utilizing the "sophisticated consumer" standard when it comes to dumb impressionable lemmings.

    2. NY? Restricted entry?

      In NY, you can do a one-year LLM as a foreign law grad and then sit for the NY Bar.

      Just more CLE / bi-annual fees Brother.. It's that simple.

    3. Trust me, I believe you! That's why I'm worried.

      Looking at bar admissions may be the next phase of the scam.

    4. Honestly, the problem with law is there really isn't much intelligence involved in most of it.

      What is really the difference between a really articulate, intelligent argument and a by the numbers stupid one? Both are flapping their gums, and ultimately the judge decides the issue each time. And that's usually based on who donated to his campaign or how s/he feels that particular day.

      If law was truly intellectual work where ability set people apart, then there would indeed be opportunities for intelligent, hard working young lawyers to work their way up based on their effort and intellect.

      But that isn't what we see at all. Instead we see pedigree matters more than anything else because there is really no good way to differentiate people by ability. If you start off at Big Law or in a great government agency, you are given pretty much all the resources you need, and then everything else is simply going through the motions and a lot of luck.

      A lot of professions might be like that, but law is the absolute worst. In other professions it's indeed possible for someone to go from entry level and work their way up progressively.

      But in law, if someone does those entry level small law jobs where are they going to go? Even if you go to Big Law to start, you don't go up, you lateral or go down to mid law. You start at the top and then move on.

      Law is an obsolete field because it mostly needed to exist where there weren't systems already in place to resolve those issues, and where economic activity was high enough that there would be questionable issues.

      But if all most people need are forms or a will or some tax advice, they can get that from better sources. They might need a lawyer to litigate a case for them, but the average responsible person that is an employee and doesn't own a business isn't going to have that happen to them, maybe once in their lifetimes but that is even highly doubtful.

      If everyone could just prescribe themselves drugs how much would people need a doctor? If nurses and PAs could do the vast majority of checkups (they can and do actually) why would someone pay a doctor the much higher price? People would only then need doctors for maybe surgery (the equivalent to litigation).

      Any profession that isn't protected isn't a profession at all. Prior to unions pretty much every field looked like law does now. Unions changed that and gave people a chance to build lives, and now people want to throw that away and a lot of things are going to be pretty bad.

      As bad as law is, it's not like other things are going to be great going forward. They just have the decency in other fields not to load students up with ridiculous debt and then pigeon hole them into one garbage area. Your average college grad does not work in the field of their major, but that has been accepted as okay.

  12. Another law school I never heard of before.

  13. Does this shithole have an environmental law clinic?

    1. They offer an LLM in environmental law apparently... laughable.

      But its good this snakepit is under financial distress, bad though that the first thing they cut is this legal clinic which actually does some good and provides some useful legal training.

      But I bet they would cut their tenured professors loose if they could - the contracts they have must be pretty ironclad though.

    2. Does *anybody* get a job with an LLM?

    3. LLM degrees appear to benefit two classes of people. First, graduates of foreign law schools who need an American credential to pass a state bar exam. Second, graduates of Top 25 law schools, with some practice experience, who want to get into academia. In the latter case, the LLM probably needs to be from a Top 5 school, but in and of itself won't get anyone hired. There also needs to be evidence of an orderly progression to academia with law review, clerkships, publications, and so forth.

  14. Another thing that distinguishes the shitty legal profession is that you're only licensed in one state, or a few states if you waive in or pass several bar exams.

    Doctors don't have to put up with that bullshit. You pass the boards and you're licensed everywhere. No need to beg a doctor in another state to let you sit in on an exam.

    1. A notario don't need no stinkin law license. Alberto the Notario can practice law in East Los Angeles to the Lower East Side in NYC. The bar police will not go after Alberto and he can "represent" clients before the immigration courts. Meanwhile, the lemming who spent 7 years in college and law school, while incurring six figures for the privilege, has to pass the bar exam, pay bar dues, CLE dues or else face suspension. Isn't the law the paragon of all professions?

    2. That's actually not true. Doctors too have state specific licenses, and the process can take several months to complete.

      However, there is nothing like the Bar exam, so doctors need not study to take another test. It's more an issue of filling up a bunch of papers, paying a fee and waiting for approval (which can take a while).

  15. How do multiple law schools manage to share the same ranking? When I went to Tulsa about ten years ago, it was fourth tier and Lewis and Clark was second tier. Law schools are shit and I hope most of them shutdown.

  16. Yet, another law grad graduates into debt, uncertainty, and food insecurity. Great profession. She was a perfect student loan conduit used to pay for law deans and law professors' cushy salaries and benefits with guaranteed tenure.

    Law school is a scam.

    1. The Establishment and Education Industrial Complex know their customers. They are the ones who have been relentlessly pounding the Education Mantra into people's heads for decades now.

      Not because it has anything whatsoever to do with truth, especially in today's economic climate. But simply because it lines the pockets of the various interested parties.

      It's all about the Bottom Line. Collateral damage - ruining people's lives in the process - means nothing to them.

    2. Just another sucker who thought education was magic. Keep in mind, every American is told that education is magic starting at around the 1st grade, but even so, the powers-that-be will assume absolutely no responsibility for this at all. They'll make student loans available to everybody because of fairness and important national policy, but when it all goes to hell, suddenly there is this renewed piety about "personal responsibility." End Student Loans, and see how long this can last in a truly free market....

    3. The comments are harsh but didn't she do what was expected of her, after all? Lemmings: Let this be another lesson for you. Americans, to paraphrase the words of George S. Patton, only love a winner and will not tolerate a loser.

      Do you feel like taking a 95% losing proposition that costs $150k, on average, and carries debt that is non-dischargeable for life?

      If you do then by all means attend law school.


    Back on September 2, 2014, “Law Skills Prof” wrote a blog entry entitled “Lewis & Clark Law School closes student clinic due to budget contraints.” Read the excerpt below:

    “Above the Law is reporting that Lewis & Clark is reorganizing its "downtown" clinics resulting in the closure of its "main law clinic" due to financial constraints that are presumably related to the slump in applications. According to ATL's story, the law clinic in question was an important source of hands-on legal skills training at the school. The dean said in an email to students that those affected will be integrated into "alternative" legal aid organizations such as the St. Andrews Legal Clinic in downtown Portland. Here is the dean's email courtesy of ATL:

    Due to budget constraints, we are reorganizing two of our downtown clinical programs effective December 31, 2014. We will discontinue the Lewis & Clark Legal Clinic, which provides lawyering skills training for upper division students through the representation of low-income clients…

    The Lewis & Clark Legal Clinic has traditionally offered students opportunities to handle a variety of civil and administrative disputes and issues, including family law, consumer law, bankruptcy and landlord-tenant law. Through our externship program, we are integrating students with interests in these areas into alternative organizations such as the St. Andrew Legal Clinic and legal aid organizations.

    We regret the need to discontinue a program that has been a part of the Law School for many years, but current budget realities—for both the law school and our students—make this move necessary. We highly value the service that the LCLC professors and staff have provided to our students and look forward to working with them over the course of the coming year.”

    For $ome rea$on, the law school pigs at this pile of rancid fecal matter are not taking significant pay cuts – in order to keep this clinic in operation and “serve the community.” Yes, they truly are beacons of integrity, huh?!?! If you are a student and you are still considering this second tier sewage pit, then you would be an excellent candidate for a brain shunt.

    1. The "budget realities" are that the higher paid, "senior academics" need to have their incomes supported, at the expense of all inferior beings.

      "They were expendable."

      Well, soon, the "professors" will be in line with their students for the same food stamps, with any luck.

      Hopefully, law professors across America will be pondering their futures "post-professorship" lacking any book of business, and "no visible means of support." (They can always take up boxcar art.)

    2. Blah, blah, blah…

      "With a broad butter knife slathered in numbing salve, we will cover over a failure and paint it as a success, so that the adherents will step forward and drink the coolaid. Drink deeply from the cup of our deceit so that you may be cleansed in the spirt of the law, and seek deeper wisdom therein, and we will flourish and multiply, and you will be condemned for your faith in us."

    3. ^^ Well, look who's back. What, did he run out of YouTube links and suicide threats?

  18. Nando--

    "Follow the money."

    Time to "flush" the ABA, and more importantly, the ABA "standards." One at a time.

    The ABA is the group who prescribes how accredited law schools act, and those "standards" need to be assailed. Exposed. And destroyed.

    The ABA is the "Head."

    Rumsfeld, or someone "We will cut off the head…"

    Get a copy of "Gandhi." Watch it a hundred times. I did. My local Boy Scout council certainly regrets going to war with me and my friends. (I was described by an establishment member as a "moderate." I WAS Cincinnatus.) We won.

    Principals are power.

    YOU have the attention of the community.

    The schools dance to the ABA. The ABA is the source of the problem.

    Graduate, top 21, 1974.


  19. It is necessary to undermine the confidence of 0L's in all schools below a certain ranking number.

    That ought to be a "mantra."

    If not in top X, at a% ride., decline.

    If not in top X +??? at ??% ride, decline….

    And so on.

    I don't know what numbers ought to set the breaks, but some one does.


    1. I'd say the numbers there are dependent upon each individual school. Someone borrowing, say, $120,000 to attend Harvard is in a completely different life situation than someone borrowing the same to attend John Marshall Chicago. And unfortunately, even if you are top of your class at a top school, you might get no-offered, a market crash might occur, etc. There is no real security anymore, for anybody.

      What I would LOVE to know, is how the f--- John Marshall and Harvard are the same damn price.

      It's like a Honda Fit and an Aston Martin having the same price tag, but you have to be more intelligent to own the Aston Martin.

    2. I greatly appreciate your principles and your comments, Cincinnatus.

      Here's the beginning of an outline of the decision matrix for attending law school.

      Top 5--paying sticker may be justifiable.

      Top 12--need some kind of discount to attend.

      Top 18--need at least half tuition discount to attend. Since Georgetown is so stingy with discounts, this could rule out Georgetown.

      Top 50--justifiable only if receiving full tuition scholarship. Even then, you must be willing to practice or work in the same city or state. Since Fordham is so stingy with scholarships, this could rule out Fordham.

      Below top 50--Do not attend. No, Temple, Denver. Miami, and Chicago-Kent are NOT well regarded schools.

    3. Remember, additional information and the facts of your own situation can easily rule out schools in the Top 20, 50, or whatever. But it's extremely hard to justify a law school not in the Top 50, even with a full-tuition scholarship. Even if you're just borrowing living expenses, places like Hastings, American, Oregon, or San Diego are death traps for the unconnected.

  20. Thomas Jefferson Law School skewered.

    LOL! Why would anyone go there? The only person that gets a really good outcome from this law school every year is the law dean with a 500K+ salary. Law schools are a cancer on society.

  21. So the whole purpose of this blog is to rip on anything that isn't top 8! Let's evaluate the time you have spent writing this & then translate that into time you could have spent volunteering, perfecting your resuming and all around working on your craptacular attitude! Hmm, WHY are there unemployed JDs? Because if you showed up for an interview at my firm with this kind of attitude, we'd be happy to see the door hit you on the way out! What a waste to try to discourage other folks because you can only focus on the negativity.


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