Tuesday, December 16, 2014

Third Tier Diarrhea Pit: University of Idaho College of Law


http://www.uidaho.edu/law/admissions/payingforlawschool/costsandfees

Tuition: In-state residents attending this rat’s nest full time will be charged $16,480 in tuition – for the 2014-2015 school year. Out of state, full-time law students will be bent over a coffee table – to the tune of $30,010, for 2014-2015. Can you name one well-known, practicing lawyer who has graduated from this dung heap?

Total Cost of Attendance: This same document also lists other expenses associated with attending this trash heap. The pigs estimate that room and board, books and supplies, transportation, and personal costs will add another $15,816 to the tab. This brings the supposed total to $32,296 for Idaho residents and $45,826 for nonresidents – for the current academic year. The transportation figure is suspect, as it is listed as $1,106. Apparently, the cockroaches think that everyone is going to ride a bike or take a bus to class – or otherwise not incur any maintenance or repair fees for their car.

Keep in mind that the bitches and hags base this on a nine-month calendar. Seeing that actual students will require things such as food, shelter and gas for the entire damn year, we will prorate the following items: room and board, transportation, miscellaneous and personal. Doing so, we reach a more accurate total COA of $35,926 for in-state lemmings – and $49,456 for out-of-state dolts. What a great bargain, right?!?! 

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings/page+5

Ranking: The Univer$iTTTy of Idaho Commode of Law is rated as the 118th greatest, most wondrous and amazing law school in the entire country – by US “News” & World Report. In fact, it only shares this distinction with two other ABA-accredited diploma mills – Albany and Quinnipiac. What a tremendous in$TTTiTTTuTTTion, huh?!?! 

http://www.uidaho.edu/law/careerdevelopment/employment-statistics

Employment Placement Statistics: Based on the Employment Summary Report for 2013 Graduates, there were a total of 117 members of this class. Of that total, one person did not supply their job status to the toilet. Seeing that 103 JDs from this cohort reported securing within nine months of earning their TTT degrees, the “placement” rate was 88.8 percent, i.e. 103/116.

Under Employment Type, you will notice that only 46 people from the class of 2013 landed jobs as lawyers! This figure includes the nine desperate souls who started solo practices. Hell, here is the full breakdown: nine solos; 34 in firms of 2-10 attorneys; two in offices of 11-25 lawyers; and one damn person hired by a law firm of 26-50 attorneys. Yes, that is truly impressive!

This school did not produce one single, solitary graduate who entered Biglaw – from the Class of 2013! Hell, not one person from this cohort ended up in a firm of larger than 50 lawyers. Let that sink in for a moment. Now, look at the average debt load these students took on, for their TTT degree. 

http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/grad-debt-rankings/page+6

Average Law Student Indebtedness: USN&WR lists the average law student indebtedness - for those members of the Univer$iTTTy of Idaho JD Class of 2013 who incurred debt for law school - as $98,008. Hell, 78% of this garbage pit’s 2013 cohort took on such noxious debt. Don’t forget that this amount does not even include undergraduate debt – and also does not take accrued interest into account, while the student is enrolled.

http://www.uidaho.edu/law/aboutthecollegeoflaw/diversity

The Trash Pit’s Commitment to Diversity: Sometimes it is best to quote the swine verbatim. To wit: 

Diversity Statement 

The University of Idaho College of Law embraces diversity within the law school community and the legal profession. Our law school protects and fosters an inclusive and respectful learning environment for the discussion of legal principles, concepts, and practical skills. As a preparatory ground for future practitioners of the law, we adhere to the standards of legal professionalism within our classrooms, our offices, our hallways, our student organizations, our gathering places, and our activities. The calling to law is an important one with significant impacts on society, and as a law school we take that significance to the core of our purpose. The law school community values people of diverse cultures, races, ethnicities, genders, physical abilities, lifestyles, opinions, citizenship, philosophies, sexual orientations, religious backgrounds, ages, life experience, and identities. Diversity is an essential component of the University of Idaho College of Law and requires legal professionalism from all sectors of our community to provide an appropriately respectful learning environment.” [Emphasis mine]

Yes, be all things to all people. That’s the spirit! By the way, how exactly does diversity “require legal professionalism from all sectors of [the law school] community” in order to provide a respectful learning environment? Does Aryan Nations have a presence on campus or something?

In the end, this is merely a ploy to appeal to applicants of all backgrounds. After all, the cockroaches need asses in seats – in order to grab all that federal cash. This is not cutting edge stuff, people. As long you have a pulse – and a 147 LSAT score or 2.75 UGPA – these vile pigs will be happy to take your borrowed money!

Conclusion: While nearly 4/5 of the graduates took on serious debt for a TTT law degree from this pile of waste in 2013, fully 22 percent did not incur an additional dime in student loans. Good luck competing against them – and their influential fathers – for attorney jobs in the state. Lastly, look at the job prospects facing these young men and women. Ask yourself the following: Why in the hell should these students be essentially required to incur $110K-$145K in additional, NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt for such an employment outlook?

31 comments:

  1. Another law school now trying to lure students, AKA Lemmings, under the guise of diversity and inclusiveness. When businesses falter then they act like they are trying to carve out a niche market. Case in point, Idaho lists physical ability in their inclusiveness protocol. Yet look at the statistics from the ABA itself for disability inclusiveness. Only. 25 percentage, not 25% but POINT 25 percent, or only one out of 400 attorneys are disabled. That statistic right there tells you how law firms value the disabled. Yet these law schools want to entice the disabled with false dreams they will practice law since they obviously are not going to be cops or construction workers. So a disabled person will be $250,000 in the hole with non-dischargeable debt and a POINT 25 % chance of landing any job. The law school hustlers are lower than your neighborhood crack dealer to sink so low targeting the most vulnerable people in society. Even targeting racial minorities at third tier law schools is not as low because maybe the minority who cannot find a job at a law firm can be a cop or construction supervisor. I know a big black man with a law degree who never found a legal job at least is a city cop who rose up the ranks and is doing.something. Check out the ABA official website for physically disabled graduates.....they admit they are "under-represented." A euphemism for saying that law firms don't want them around. But the ABA claims they are addressing the issue by having law schools and law firms sign a rhetoric filler "Pledge." The law school scam movement.should focus on warning the most vulnerable members of society, the disabled, to stay clear of these predatory institutions. They are better off collecting SSI and living.a peaceful life. They want to learn the law to be so called enlightened, go to your local library and read law books at your own pace. These law school deans remind me of a crackheads hard up for money mugging a disabled man with a cane. And the claim that diversity enriches the legal community is nothing but sophistry. All they want is asses in the seats and students who can obtain a higher bar pass rate for bragging rights to advance rankings. Nothing more or nothing less. Diversity is a scam.

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    1. The law schools only.play the diversity card when the high LSAT scorer who can raise the bar passage rate decides not to.attend law school. Diversity is a fall back position to fill the empty seat with a sorry ass rather than the law school's mission for diversity.

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  2. What in the hell is the savannah law school??? I read it was just aba accredited. They open these places faster than Starbucks. I'm thinking of renting a burned out old building and starting a law school. If you can't beat them join them

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  3. This preftigious school is also taking large numbers of transfers students from the state's other law school, unaccredited Concordia.

    This school won't let its students' job prospects or brand value get in the way of those sweet tuition dollars.

    Employers, take notice: if you hire from this school you're just as likely to get a barely conscious dolt who transferred from the local unaccredited T5 "school" as you are to get a typical mediocre T3 law grad. Caveat emptor.

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    1. Concordia was also a ship that the captain ran aground in Italy and then leaking oil polluted the waters. Perfect metaphor what law schools like Concordia, and other trash pits, do to the legal industry

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    2. The only flaw in your reasoning is that oil is a valuable commodity.

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  4. This school is a complete shithole. You're going to take out another $100K for jobs making what $35K a year? Fucking ridiculous.

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  5. Diversity is a sales tactic. Not attracting people with decent LSATs? Few people applying to your toilet? Have no fear. Open the doors to people with 144 LSAT scores.

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    1. Some of the instructors at Idaho law graduated from there. This says something about the educational quality available. One instructor in August 2014 made a big deal during orientation (when she (surprisingly!) taught a class about professional attire telling everybody that her LSAT score had been 144. Idaho law school should be put out of business … NOW!

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  6. All of the T4 feces pits primarily service the disabled--that is the mentally disabled. Anyone with an LSAT below 160 has no business attending law school or attempting to practice law. Shut down the forth tier trash pits, and then go on and close the 3rd tier schools. The law school industry should not be pandering to or victimizing mentally retarded cripples.

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  7. Re: "Diversity is an essential component of the University of Idaho College of Law and requires legal professionalism from all sectors of our community to provide an appropriately respectful learning environment.”

    Rumor has it that some idiot [seriously] said that women don't belong in law school in front of the ABA accreditation committee visitors. Now the administration has to say stuff like that to show how much it disapproves of idiots like that, even though they manage to admit a number of these charmers every year.

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    1. Things could have been worse for the ABA accreditation commuter, they could have been visiting the Appalachian School of Law when a student snapped and went on a shooting rampage and got caught in the crossfire.

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    2. *I meant ABA accreditation commitee

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    3. After that asshole shot the school up, the cocksuckers at the ABA gave Appalachian full accreditation. Yeah. Gatekeepers of the legal profession and stuff.

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    4. I've noticed that the scamdeans and ABA visitors all appear to be monsters and perverts, while the scambloggers all appear to be clean, wholesome, productive individuals. I'm left to wonder why this is the case.

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  8. Don't forget about Concord Law School--that place is a COMPLETE HEAP OF SHIT, sure to close soon.

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  9. Filthy freaking whores! Unleashing even more cockroaches upon an unsuspecting public! When will this load of shit ever become exorcised?!?!?!?

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    1. The whores are also the cockroaches, unleashing themselves upon the unsuspecting students.

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  10. Savannah Law School is now accredited by the ABA? Is this an early April Fool's Day joke (a bad one at that) or does the ABA just rubber stamp every application for accreditation?

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  11. When is someone gonna open a law school out of their fucking garage?

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    1. why open a law school in a garage when you can get some california-backed 100 million in bonds to build a casino-looking palace??? and if you default on said bonds, BAILED THE F OUT! CAN'T LOSE!

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  13. "Doing so, we reach a more accurate total COA of ... $49,456 for out-of-state dolts."

    I laughed reading this - well put.

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  14. http://www.uidaho.edu/law/academics

    Let’s review this toilet description:

    “Academics

    For more than a century, we have prepared state and national leaders in law, business and public service. Whether you want a legal career in private practice, judiciary, government, business, education or public interest, our academic programs will equip you for success anywhere in the country or the world.

    We teach the way you learn: case studies of appellate court decisions, classroom discussion, advanced readings, trial practice, simulations, problem-solving exercises, experiential learning. You will be deeply engaged in your education – analyzing, reflecting, criticizing and creating from day one.

    You will develop comprehensive legal expertise, high-level reasoning and critical thinking abilities, and sharp written and verbal communication skills. Our students also gain a profound understanding of the lawyer's ethical responsibilities as a representative of clients, an officer of the legal system, and a public citizen with a special responsibility for the quality of justice.”

    No one with a triple digit IQ and a sense of honesty believes in the myth of the “public citizen” or notions of “justice.” Hell, the entire legal $y$tem is a sick joke. I laughed when I read the end of the second paragraph. The pigs act as though these TTT students are going to be composing symphanies or engaging in worthwhile activities.

    This trash descripTTTion then continues:

    “Learn the Law Firsthand

    Ranked in the nation's top 35 law schools for public interest and clinical opportunities, our nine clinics and our rigorous Pro Bono Program give you valuable practical experiences representing real clients.

    Under the guidance of practicing lawyers and faculty, our students serve as advocates and advisers on a range of legal issues – from taxes and small business law to victims' rights and immigration. Externships and the "Semester in Practice" program in Boise provide further opportunity to polish your lawyering skills alongside the professionals.”

    The reality is that “law professors” cannot give much guidance on how to practice law. If they were so great or “passionate” about this work, then why are they sitting in a classroom boring everyone to death – rather than “taking on the system” and “representing the downtrodden”?!?! In the final analysis, “legal educators” are lower than cockroaches.

    By the way, does anyone really think that a decent law firm would hire either of the supposed students pictured on this page? Neither is listed under faculty. The woman on the left is unattractive, and she parts her hair in the middle. The man next to her sports a hirsute, salt and pepper beard and a $5 haircut. Plus, both appear to be in their early 30s. We all know that law firms discriminate against nontraditional students. They simply don’t want people to hire your “old” ass.

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  15. http://www.uidaho.edu/law/academics/areasofstudy/nativelaw

    Now, check out the Native Law Program at the Univer$iTTTy of Idaho Commode of Law:

    “The Native Law Program at the University of Idaho College of Law is focused on providing law students with a foundation in Tribal Law, Federal Indian Law, and the intersection of State Law. The overview course, “Native American Law” provides a broad view of the field and provides law students an introduction into the basics of Tribal civil jurisdiction, criminal jurisdiction, sovereignty, and natural resource management; the basics of Federal Indian law including the foundational cases, federal pre-emption of Indian affairs over state interests, federal delegation of authority to states, and the federal trust doctrine; and the basics of state law impacting Tribes, such as P.L. 280 jurisdiction in Indian country. On a rotating basis, the courses “Native American Natural Resources Law” and “Tribal Nation Economics & Law” are offered.

    The University of Idaho College of Law has an on-going commitment to educating law students in the area of Native American Law and encouraging Native Americans to enter into the field of law. Over the past several years, distinguished faculty teaching in this area at the law school include Emeritus Professor of Law Dennis Colson, Associate Professor of Law Doug Nash (Nez Perce Tribe) now with the Seattle University School of Law Institute for Indian Estate Planning and Probate, Former Interim President and former Dean of the College of Law Donald Burnett, Jr., Honorable Steve Aycock the former Chief Judge of the Confederated Tribes of the Colville Reservation, and currently the Native American Law Program is headed up by Professor and James E. Rogers Fellow in American Indian Law, Angelique EagleWoman (Sisseton-Wahpeton Dakota Oyate). In the area of Native Water Law, Professor of Law Barbara Cosens has published extensively and was an organizer for both the Indian Water Rights Settlement Conference and the Winters Centennial Conference. She also has served as a mediator in Indian water rights settlement negotiations. Upon this firm foundation of expertise as exemplified by the individuals who have contributed in the area of Native American Law, the University of Idaho College of Law continues to build.”

    Yes, this seems to be a lucrative area to practice in, huh?!?! Good luck trying to make a living by representing impoverished people. By the way, even if your heart is into the work – if you can even get a damn job in the area – you have a hell of a hurdle to overcome.

    http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/10/28/indian-law-attorneys-advice-tribes-stay-out-courts-151957

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    1. I could see native American Indians wanting to enter this practice area. In fact, I'd admire and respect them for it, as long as someone else was paying the inflated tuition. For all others, Native law Law is nothing but a juvenile fantasy adulterated by militant, vindictive guilt-mongering. All the Euro-Americans I've known who got involved in advocacy for Native Americans were real pieces of shit.

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  16. Practicing bumkin law in Shitcreek, Idaho is really prestigious. You can practice law out of your doublewide, go to court in cut off jean shorts and flip flops and use crayons on legal forms. Yee-haw!!

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  17. http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2013/04/a-cleaner-ranking-of-schools-long-term-full-time-employment-minus-law-school-funded-jobs.html#more

    Back on April 10, 2013, Dan Filler posted a Faculty Lounge entry entitled “ New Law School Rankings: Employment Data Cleaned of School Funded Positions.” From his opening:

    “I've taken the same data that Gary Rosin used in this post (which ranked schools by percentage employed in full-time, long-term jobs requiring a JD) and cleaned the list...by excluding all such positions that were funded by the law school.

    One concern I have about Gary's list - similar to concerns about US News rankings - is that once you eliminate the top schools, an ordinal ranking suggests large distinctions between schools with small acutal differences. Thus, the gap in Gary's list from the #1 school (Penn) to the #31 school (Georgia) is 25 percentage points; Penn placed 94.4% of its students and Georgia placed 69.4%. But the gap between Georgia and the school 30 places down the list - #61 FIU (which placed 63.6 of its students) - was only 5.8 percentage points. A law school candidate might be agnostic as between Georgia and FIU, based on placement, but not between Penn and Georgia.

    I am going to publish my list from number 1 to 197, but a savvy reader would be well advised to consider schools in clusters. For example, this time using my list, schools 1 to 6 place over 85% of their grads in legit L/T, F/T JD required jobs. Call that cluster 1. Schools 7-19 place over 75%. Schools 20-52 place over 65%. Schools 53-98 place over 55%. And so on.

    Even this clustering obscures important facts for anyone comparing law schools, the primary one of which is this: outside of a few elite schools, most grads with jobs are working somewhere geographically close to their law school. So a graduate of #34 Campbell University has a comparatively good shot at a job; it's probably going to be in North Carolina. Ditto #28 South Texas College of Law. And if your goal is Big Law, particularly in $160K-ville, you'd best take that #17 Northwestern offer (even if you did get into #16 LSU or #15 West Virginia.) I do love Alabama - after all, it was my first academic home - but if I had an offer from #14 Yale and #13 Alabama...well, you know where this is going.”

    In the very next paragraph, Filler makes a great observation:

    “And a close reader might consider whether a particular school claims a very high number of graduates going into solo practice. While solos are treated the same as associates at Wilmer Hale, for statitstical purpose, the average solo is probably going to earn less during her first few years than she would have made in a non-JD job.”

    This is common sense. Then again, there are still plenty of morons who cannot conduct basic research – even though this is an ECONOMIC DECISION that WILL financially affect them for the rest of their lives.

    This chart is labeled “Class of 2012 Employment Report – JD Required, FT, LT Minus Law School Funded.” At any rate, the Univer$iTTTy of Idaho Commode of Law ranked 92nd “best” with a 57.63% “placement” rate. Don’t forget that these kids end up in toiletlaw, meaning that they busted their asses to land such positions. The law school pigs didn’t do any of the groundwork – but they will gladly take the credit for this “success.”

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