Saturday, June 20, 2015

Excellent News: Law School Enrollment Continues to Dwindle


http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/06/09/law-school-applications-keep-falling/

The New Normal for ABA-Accredited Toilets: The Wall Street Journal Law Blog featured a Sara Randazzo entry labeled “Law School Applications Keep Falling” – on June 9, 2015. Take a look at that article:

“As the cost of law school rises and the number of entry-level legal jobs stagnates, the number of law-school applicants continues to fall. 

According to the latest numbers from the Law School Admission Council, 50,269 people submitted applications to nationally accredited law schools as of last week, down 2.5% from the same time last year. Those would-be lawyers applied to an average of more than six schools per person, and the total volume of applications was down 4.6% from 2014. At this point in the year, LSAC says it usually has around 95% of the year’s data collected. 

The numbers track with what LSAC reported in April, when applicants were down 2.6% versus last year and applications down 4.7%. 

Until the recession, law school often served as a stopping-off point for college graduates unsure what to do with their lives or looking to bolster their resume. Now, with the average cost of public law school tuition at $23,900 per year and the average private school tab at nearly $42,000 a year, according to the American Bar Association, it’s no longer a decision to take lightly. 

Law schools have adjusted by scaling back entry-level class sizes, boosting financial aid or cutting tuition price, and trimming staff ranks.” [Emphasis mine]

If the law school pigs were not so damn greedy and shortsighted, the bitches and hags would drastically lower tuition – and not merely offer rate discounts in the form of revocable “scholarships.” Of course, that might impact the UNJUSTIFIED, bloated salaries of faculty members, and that would be a travesty. After all, cockroaches who rehash dog-eared copies of their notes for the last 20 years – and “work” 4-6 hours per week – simply MUST make $160K per year, right?!?!

Hell, even Randazzo notes that the ridiculously high cost of law school tuition is a major contributing factor to the decline in applications. She also mentioned that the paucity of legal openings each year has discouraged college grads from enrolling in ABA-accredited dung pits and trash heaps. Yes, that is a terrible combination. The pigs are starting to feel the heat. At least, the “law professors” and administrators will not be the ones saddled with outrageous sums of NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt. 

http://www.jdjournal.com/2015/06/11/law-school-enrollment-continues-to-shrink/

Other Coverage: On June 11, 2015, JD Journal published a Daniel June piece entitled “Law School Enrollment Continues to Shrink.” Here is the entire text:

“We know the situation by now: there are more law schools in existence in these United States than ever before – more faculty, more buildings, higher expectations for enrollment – and meanwhile, conversely, enrollment is at a 30 year low. The 2008 market collapse pulled the rug out of the legal market, and unlike most the other industries, they still haven’t crawled out of oblivion. Pretty much if you are an accomplished JD coming out of law school, chances are you are straddled with six figures of debt, but have few prospects to help with that particular problem. 

The latest stats from the Law School Admission Council shows that this trend, which came into its own in 2010, hasn’t since diminished, but in fact, with 50,269 applicants for law school nationally, we are down by 2.5 percent from this point last year. 

More to the point, those applications are redundant: people are averaging submissions to six schools. And considering that this stat is up, that means even fewer students are actually submitting, down 4.6 percent compared to last year. 

In light that law schools are charging $23,900 for yearly tuition, or $42,000 for private schools, and this according to the American Bar Association, choosing to be a lawyer is no longer the natural next step for those undergrad graduates who still haven’t figured things out.” [Emphasis mine]

At what point will law schools simply start admitting people who can recite the alphabet correctly? As you can see from this Paul Campos post back on December 14, 2012, the rodents have consistently accepted more applicants each year for the last decade. Yes, what a “prestigious” degree to obtain, huh?!?! At this point in time, if anyone is impressed by your ability to earn a TTTT law degree, then that person is fundamentally ignorant.

Conclusion: In the final analysis, the law school swine have no one to blame, but themselves, for their current predicament. Unfortunately, many more legions of students will be put through the financial wood chipper, before these old farts/criminals retire from their academic posts. However, something has to give at these “institutions of higher education.” Many of these schools have resorted to faculty buyouts, staff layoffs, and pushing untenured “professors” out the door. Several law schools have decided to merge, in order to stay in business. 

The good schools, i.e. the ones actually worth attending due to their reputation and ability to open doors for your ass, will still be able to attract quality applicants. Although, the lower-ranked commodes will: (a) continue to be inundated with morons who have little chance of passing the bar exam; and (b) admit an even higher percentage of those mental midgets, in order to fill seats. Wait until some of these dolts start representing clients in legal matters. Then, the general public will have a better idea of how easy it is to get into law school. Seeing that many law students are seeking prestige, that will further impact enrollment down the line.

20 comments:

  1. Already they admit people who can barely recite the alphabet. Really, they'll take in damn near anyone who can sign the papers for student loans. Now that the number of applicants is approximately the number of matriculants from five years ago, the scamsters just want to put an ass—any ass—into a seat.

    Imagine teaching legal writing at a Cooley or a Thomas Jefferson. It's bad enough at the best law schools; it must be hell at the typical, to say nothing of the worst.

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  2. Lemmings realize law school is like walking into a buzzsaw. 3 years and $200k of debt to get a JD-Advantage job stocking shelves at Walmart.

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    1. Some lemming realize it-but tens of thousands still don't. What will it take to get through to those people? The information is out there, but Cooley and La Verne and (you fill in the blank)...isn't Charleston still open? Until an ABA accredited school actually closes, the scam will continue.
      And when is that going to happen?

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  3. Too bad the untenured professors get laid off first, but I don't have much sympathy for them. They were anxious to profit from the scam, but simply entered the market too late. Maybe some of them--those with PhD's, at least--can get jobs teaching their liberal arts specialties at half the salary of law professors. Or if they're not on the tenure track, they can make 10 to 20 percent of what law professors make.

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    1. Or they can walk into white shoe partnerships.

      BWAHAHAHAHA

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  4. Lives are being spared, but it's still not enough. I just can't see how anyone would want to go to any law school outside the top 8 in this day and age. There just aren't enough jobs being created to fill the number of law grads, and the jobs that are available are becoming increasingly shittier as the firms know the job market is completely saturated with desperate souls just trying to get any sort of job.

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    1. It's down to the top 6 now.

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    2. You mean top 3?

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    3. I tend to agree. T6 or better and even at that I'd take any T3 school with as much money as I could get to minimize the debt coming out if it were a choice between a T6 or one in the T3.

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    4. Even top 3 doesn't work. We've had plenty of Harvard Law grads post that Big Law chews them up and spits them out within 3 years, and they can't get back into law.

      Is that really a risk people want to take? Big Law is fairly awful, the first 3 years for most are like doc review or shit law except with a lot more pay. But that pay comes with a lot of stress and ravages a person's physical health and personal relationships.

      Even at HYS, you want to be one of the connected, so you can get a cushy high level federal appointment, clerkship or corporate legal job. Not too many good jobs to go around. There aren't so many "white shoe" firms that actually treat people well and guarantee a great long term career to go around for even half of the HYS grads.

      And if you're smart enough to get into HYS, you are smart enough to do better with your life.

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    5. Roderick Wentworth Brockingham IVJune 21, 2015 at 7:11 PM

      Yale or fail.

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    6. Increasingly it's both Yale AND fail, at least for aspiring law professors. Yale academic placements were abysmally low this year.

      Not only is law school hiring drying up due to Nando's heroic efforts at consumer protection. Even more important, the very process by which Yale selects is students is falling into disrepute. It identifies primarily narcissists who are far better at promoting themselves than at teaching legal skills. Law students at lower-tier schools are getting sick of deferring to imaginary prestige, given that their own degrees carry no prestige whatsoever.

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  5. I'm eagerly awaiting the opening of the Daycare Academy of Toilet Training and Law. Get 'em while they're young, saddle 'em with $200,000 in debt, and THEN send them to kindergarten.

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  6. People aren't really impressed with someone's law degree anymore. If someone asks you where you went and you saw Arizona State or Indiana, they go 'Oh.' If it's a really low ranked piece of shit, they raise an eyebrow and walk along.

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  7. Nando, that's excellent news for sure! It made my day to read that more and more lives are being spared. And today's my birthday, so you just gave me a priceless birthday gift.

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  8. I've noticed law school scam articles have become prominent in the nations largest conservative, liberal papers: NYT, WP, and WSJ.

    These pubs aren't known for advocacy for the poor but for the establishment; however, they have written prodigiously about the scam.

    This reminds me of the old saying, the only way to get tolerance from a conservative is when a problem affects him--much like how Nancy Reagan broke ranks with conservatives to support stem cells because Ronnie had severe alzheimer from the 1980s onward.

    Many of the editors and owners at these papers have children and peers in law...

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  9. Law faculty are parasitic scum feeding off of student loans.

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  10. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-19/law-school-applications-will-hit-their-lowest-point-in-15-years?hootPostID=3f8b2759fc893c20caac034bdfc64878

    Back on March 19, 2015, BloombergBusiness published an excellent piece – from Natalie Kitroeff – under the headline “Law School Applications Set to Hit 15-Year Low.” Check out the portion below:

    “[W]aning interest in law school has become an increasingly urgent threat to the business model underlying legal education in the U.S. As legal jobs have dried up, fewer people are applying to and enrolling in law schools, spurring panic across the industry. To cope with the new reality, schools have arrived at innovative tactics to help fill their classrooms.

    On Wednesday, Pace Law School in New York announced it would begin matching the tuition rate that out-of-state students received at their state schools, calling the program the first of its kind in the U.S. Dean David Yassky specifically cited declining enrollment across the country in an e-mailed statement explaining the new policy. Last month, the State University of New York-Buffalo Law School and the University of Iowa College of Law announced that they would not require the Law School Admission Testfor applications from top-performing students from their undergraduate institutions. Officials at the schools acknowledged that dropping the LSAT for this cohort could make it easier to funnel quality candidates into their programs.

    A more straightforward tactic, favored by the vast majority of law schools, is simply to lower admissions standards across the board. Nine in 10 law schools have allowed LSAT scores of students in the bottom quartile to drop–meaning those whose scores are already the lowest of the class are getting even worse–according to a December report by the nonprofit that creates part of the Bar Exam. Meanwhile, the employment rate for law grads fell for the sixth consecutive year in 2014, according to the National Association for Law Placement.”

    What a prestigious and “honorable profession,” huh?!?! Again, the article notes that NINE OUT OF TEN ABA-accredited diploma mills/trash cans have LOWERED THEIR ADMI$$ION$ “standards.” They have done so, in order to get asses in seats, even when the number of applicants continues to drop.

    At this point in time, getting accepted into any of the 200+ ABA-approved law schools is about as big of an accomplishment as beating your cat in a game of chess. Then again, that is against the common house cat. If you happen to defeat a Savannah cat – a big-ass cross breed – in such a contest, that is a much greater triumph than gaining admission into a second tier cesspool.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savannah_cat

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  11. nando, I can't believe you let University at Buffalo's law dean off your sight, after the dean was asked to resign after perjuring himself in court? I think another dean (not sure if it's the same guy) has problems from lying about some genocide from the African country he's from.

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  12. http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2015/03/20/law-school-applications-how-low-can-they-go/?mod=WSJBlog&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wsj%2Flaw%2Ffeed+%28WSJ.com%3A+Law+Blog%29&utm_content=Netvibes

    Back on March 20, 2015, the Wall Street Journal Law Blog featured a Jacob Gershman entry entitled “Law School Applications: How Low Can They Go?” Seeing that the pigs continue to accept higher rates of applicants – including waterheads and simpletons – the article could just as easily have been labeled “Law School Admissions Standards: How Far Can They Drop?” Here is the full text of Gershman’s piece:

    “The number of people applying to law school has been shrinking for some time. But just how far have the figures fallen?

    The latest numbers released by the Law School Admission Council are eye-opening.

    As of March 13, just over 41,136 people have applied to go to an accredited U.S. law school this fall, according to LSAC, which administers the LSAT entrance exam. By this time a year ago, the total number of applicants recorded had reached 43,156. Applications are down 6.7% from 2014.

    Going back further in time, the drop-off is much steeper. By this time in 2010, more than 77,000 people had applied to law school. In 2004, a peak year, law schools had already collected applications from more than 90,000 people, more than double the size of this year’s pool.

    Applicants usually have until March 1 to apply for regular admission, but it takes longer for the data to get reported to LSAC and to be posted online. In 2014, LSAC’s mid-March numbers ended up representing about 80% of the final tally for that year’s cycle.”

    The law school swine will continue to admit more applicants, in order to try and make up for the decreased interest in their garbage programs. What an honorable objective, huh?!?! At what point will law schools start accepting those prospective students who can merely count backwards from 100 in intervals of five?

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