Saturday, September 5, 2015

Indiana Tech Law School Gives Free Tuition for One Full Year, and Still Only Fifteen Dolts Enroll for Fall 2015

Free Tuition Offer: On September 1, 2015, “Old Guy” posted a hilarious OTLSS entry that was labeled “Indiana Tech can’t be given away.” Check out the following portion from that article:

“Indiana Tech Law School had great expectations. Two years ago, before the fateful opening of its doors, it confidently charged a $50 application fee, which it generously reduced to $25 for those single-minded centurions who signed up for its binding "early admissions" scheme. In the sugar-plum visions of soon-to-be-former founding dean Alexander, that glorious Harvard on the Wabash would open with a hundred students and a median LSAT score placing it third among the Hoosier State's five law schools. 

Alas! not even thirty students showed up, and their median LSAT score came in ten calamitous points lower than Alexander's pie-in-the-sky prognostication. Changes were in order. Out went the application fee. In came numbers-based "scholarships" advertised by spam. Out went the dean. In came a series of specialties, among them "global leadership", for the best damn law students in Allen County. 

In year 2, under the masterly interim leadership of AndrĂ© Douglas Pond Cummings (who during a Mormon mission reportedly rechristened himself "Dougie Fresh", with or without the capital letters), Indiana Tech drew roughly the same number of incoming students. It nonetheless soldiered on, confident of getting accreditation. 

But, woe! this time the ABA withheld its seal (rubber stamp?) of approval. Now those intrepid centurions of Indiana Tech's inaugural class, resplendent in their rented orange-yellow polyester caps and gowns, may not even be allowed to write the bar exams in Indiana, never mind any other jurisdiction. And who is going to pay $30k per year in tuition for a school that couldn't even get provisional accreditation? 

Desperate times call for desperate measures. And the raffling off of a "scholarship" to someone who had not even applied was not nearly desperate enough. With a new scam-dean to open year 3, Indiana Tech proved its vaunted innovative spirit by eliminating tuition. Yes, this year anyone enterprising enough to attend Indiana Tech won't spend a sou for the intellectual fellowship of such godlike figures as Dougie Fresh and Lamparello! 

Indiana Tech was hoping to draw in twenty first-year students this year. How many people actually enrolled? 

Fifteen.” [Emphasis mine]

Yes, you read that correctly. Only 15 souls bothered to enroll in this unaccredited trash pit – even with the offer of free tuition. Then again, how many people want to piss away three years of their lives – in order to receive a law degree from a garbage institution?!?!

"Holistic" Admissions: In the rodents’ own words:

“Indiana Tech Law School uses a holistic approach in reviewing applications for admission. Three members of the faculty and the assistant dean for admissions serve on an Admissions Committee and they review every application that is received. Multiple factors are considered when determining whom to admit to our program.”

In other words, weak-ass LSAT scores and low undergraduate GPAs will not prevent you from gaining admission to this dung heap. Surely, this policy has nothing to do with the “educators” getting their hands on federal student loans, right?!?!

TTTTT SelecTTTTTiviTTTTTy: Take a look at the following numbers, courtesy of the Indiana Tech 2014 Standard 509 Information Report:

“GPA and LSAT scores [for calender year 2014]

# of apps: 96
# of offers: 78
# of matriculants: 35 
75th percentile GPA: 3.15 
50th percentile GPA: 2.85 
25th percentile GPA 2.49 
75th percentile LSAT: 151 
50th percentile: LSAT: 148
25th percentile LSAT: 142” [Emphasis mine]

Apparently, “holistic” means “admit anyone with a pulse.” Frankly, these numbers are pathetic. Of course, that doesn’t stop the school from accepting and enrolling such students!

Conclusion: Indiana Institute of Technology decided to open a law school, in the midst of a fundamental restructuring of the lawyer job market. Outsourcing/LPOs, automation, LegalZoom, etc. had already taken a huge toll on this “profession.” The commode first opened its doors in August 2013. Anyone with a functioning brain stem could see that this was a terrible idea. The pigs hoped to enroll 100 people in their inaugural class. A total of 35 matriculated, and several of them dropped out quickly. Now with free tuition and extended deadlines, the “school” failed to sign up more than 15 students in its current first year class. As of June 30, 2011, the college had an endowment of $41.065 million. How much longer will the parent university and its board of trustees continue to fund this TTTTT venture?


  1. There was once a time when even TTTT schools had median LSAT scores over 150 (rarely under 155).

    My T2 admitted me with a 150, and I was the applicant with the third lowest LSAT score they admitted that year (median was a 160).

    1. Indeed, just four or five years ago, 150 was considered a horrible score. (No disrespect to 10:36 intended; I'm just reporting the facts.)

  2. I went to law school about a decade ago and I clearly remember when applying I spoke to an acquaintance that was a computer science major. He told me he wanted to go to law school but his LSAT was too low, he could only score about 155 or so.

    I scored a 167, and really could have scored higher if not for some second guessing (my practice exams were generally 169+ minimum). At that time it was thought you should only take the exam once, or at least I was told that, when really I should have re-taken.

    At any rate, I never did get a real legal career, and 10 years later he is earning very good money in a stable field and doing very well. He lucked out at getting such a low score, and I screwed up by getting a decent but not nearly good enough score (although, from reading these blogs, I have come to the understanding that more than likely a better score really would not have guaranteed a career anyway, most like I would still be out of law).

    I don't even understand how a 142 is even possible. Those scores indicate some sort of learning disability and cognitive disfunction, certainly not entry into a "prestigious" or "noble" "profession." Law is an absolute joke and at some point, all law schools will need to be shut down and law needs to be changed to a 4 year undergrad BA, like in other countries.

    The law profs and admins will scream to high heaven of course, because undergrad profs are actually expected to teach, assign work, and grade, things law profs don't really ever do. Undergrad profs also get paid a lot less.

    1. This is totally correct. If applicants are admitted with 142 that means the test is nothing more than an administrative hurdle to admission much like filling out your name on the application. If anyone scores below 155 they should be auto excluded. In other words below 155 should be sorta like flunking the test.

    2. Oh, 142 is far from the bottom. Last year the Univershitty of Texas admitted some people with scores in the 120s.

      For years I have recommended a floor of 160—plus other measures to weed out people who don't belong in a learned profession.

  3. This IT law school is reminding me of south Harmon institute of technology in the Jonah hill movie accepted. What in the hell could these 15 people be like? What in the hell is the curve? My guess is that it's 3.75.

    Can't wait to see bar pass rates next year. Oh wait . . .

  4. Been lurking on here for a while, first comment. Regarding the $41.065m endowment as of 2011, considering that the academic and administrative swine at all law $chools earn such fantastic wages, the burn rate of that endowment must be astronomical. Add in building maintenance, $tudent $upport, $upplies (paper, ink, toilet paper, etc.) and this shithole is probably sinking faster than a 50lb lead ball in a 10 foot pool. 1-2 years left in this shit hole. In advance, good riddance.

    1. Consider also that the law school has 28 employees—almost two for each first-year student! With no tuition coming in and presumably no other significant source of revenue (the gift shop must not sell many autographed copies of Lamparello's lascivious memoirs), the law school must be relying on the university to cover payroll (and all other expenses). Payroll alone will come to a few million this year, and that's a big chunk of what had been a $41M endowment. In just a few years, the law school will have ruined the university's financial situation.

  5. I seem to recall the Board of Trustees at Indiana Tech paid a research firm a nice six figure sum to come up with a "feasibility study" which concluded that Indiana was in DIRE NEED of another law school, which propelled the launch of this stillborn enterprise. I wonder if Indy Tech can get its money back. I doubt it since former Dean Alexander probably instructed the firm to produce a study with a preconceived conclusion.

    Why the Board is continuing to sink money into this losing venture is beyond me.

    1. For more on the "feasibility study":

  6. Actually, with tuition at zero, the school isn't getting any student loan money. They're just hoping that accreditation will allow them to charge tuition in the future, most of which would be funded by student loans.

  7. What's the total enrolment at this shithole? 65 people? The school has got to be losing a ton of money.

    1. Losing money faster than an asshole loses diarrhea. shITLS has money squirts like nobody's business, shitting gallon after gallon of it into this toilet school.

      Soon it'll be dehydrated and Indiana Tech won't want to keep feeding it Gatorade bottles of cash. Instead it'll end up shitting out blood and then dying on the slippery toilet floor.

  8. 142 as the 25th percentile score means the school has admitted people that got even lower than 142 on the exam.

  9. Some possible signs that perhaps your business model isn't working:

    1. You can't sell your goods and services for cold, hard cash.
    2. You can't sell your and services on credit, even when there are no credit checks for your potential buyers.
    3. You can't even give your goods and services away.
    4. ....

  10. D.O.L.T.S = Department of Low Test Scorers


    On August 25, 2015, the Indiana Lawyer published a Marilyn Odendahl piece that was entitled “Indiana Tech Law School restarts accreditation process, welcomes Zoeller.” Look at the following segment:

    “We’re just proceeding along,” said Indiana Tech Law School Dean Charles Cercone. “We’re very optimistic about the year.”

    The incoming Class of 2018 is comprised of 15 students who have a median LSAT score of 151 and a median GPA of 3.42. This is the smallest group yet to enroll in the Fort Wayne law school which opened in 2013. The institution’s first two classes each had about 30 students, and the Class of 2017 came with a median LSAT of 148.

    The law school has also started the accreditation process again, submitting its reapplication last week. The American Bar Association denied the Fort Wayne school provisional accreditation earlier this year.”

    Two paragraphs later, the article continued:

    “While recruiting, Cercone said he told prospective students about the accreditation process along with explaining the school’s program and mission.

    “I’m sure that the accreditation uncertainty entered into a lot of students’ thinking,” he said.

    A concern after the denial was that the students starting their third year would opt to transfer to an accredited law school. Indiana does not allow graduates of unaccredited law schools to sit for the bar exam. However, Cercone said only one member of the Class of 2016 decided to leave because of that.”

    According to Cercone, potential students appear to be more concerned with the commode’s accreditation status rather than those who are already enrolled. That’s odd, considering that the state does not permit those who earn a law degree from an unaccredited school to sit for the bar exam. Those pupils have already invested at least 1-2 years at this cesspool. Yet, the dean says these students are not leaving for other law schools. Then again, perhaps they realize that the American Bar Association cockroaches will likely approve the school’s application next time.

    1. The Indiana Supreme Court has ordered that the inaugural class will be permitted to sit for the bar exam, accreditation or not.

    2. The Indiana Supreme Court has issued an order which will permit the inaugural class to take the Indiana bar exam, accreditation or not.

  12. I was reading New England Law's admission page and they said that applicants with GPA's below 2.0 should not, selective. Dominos and Pappa John's need to get in on this high speed, low requirement JD scam. Get a law degree and we will throw in a garlic bread.

    1. The guy who founded Dominos Pizza has also been trying to build up the Ave Maria school of Law.

      It has a Third Tier Reality Entry (
      It is a Forth Tier Law School according to US "News" and World Report
      And is overall a Fifth rate establishment.

  13. Um, how do you graduate from college if you don't have a 2.0 GPA?

  14. You mean there are NO high power, intellectual, lawyer jobs as depicted on TV in the 90's..... "The Practice"... etc..?

    I was so looking forward to dressing up in my expensive suit and power tie, defending criminals and being a minister of "justice" by day in court. (cooley)..

    And by night, sipping martinis at the bar/lounge telling court room stories illustrating my high powered legal career as I picked up the babes.

    Not worth it for $100k debt.... sheesh !

    And to think for 80% of graduating law students, starting salaries are between $35k to $60k. You can do that with a bachelor degree.

    Watch Dave Ramsey's show .... these type of people call his show all the time, to get help to dig there way out of the life altering soul crushing law school debt !!!


    Back on July 27, 2015, the Wall Street Journal Law Blog posted a Jacob Gershman piece that was entitled "Law School Promises Free Tuition to All of its Students*." Look at this brilliant opening:

    "A law school in Indiana is offering students an unbeatable price — a year of law school tuition free.

    Indiana Tech Law School in Fort Wayne, which opened its doors two years ago, is waiving the more than $30,000 it normally charges tuition and fees, promising a full one-year scholarship to any student who enrolls this fall.

    Students have to cover room and board but the rest is on the house. To stay eligible, they don’t even have to maintain high grades, as long as they stay in good academic standing, according to its dean.

    There is a catch, though.

    *Graduates of the school may not be able to take the bar exam and become a practicing lawyer.

    The American Bar Association last month refused to grant Indiana Tech provisional accreditation for reasons neither the school nor the ABA will disclose. That means at least until next spring, enrolled students will be stuck in law school purgatory.

    Most states, including Indiana, don’t let students take the bar exam unless they graduated from a law school accredited by the American Bar Association.

    The private law school, part of Indiana Institute of Technology, enrolled 60 students last year, but it’s unclear how many of those students are sticking around and new ones are matriculating while the school tries to straighten out its accreditation status.

    Indiana Tech entered the legal academic world at a time of crisis — driven by a dramatic plunge in applications — from which law schools are only now starting to emerge. Last year Indiana Tech accepted 78 out of 96 people who applied, according to ABA data."

    Yes, what a grand in$TTTTTiTTTTTuTTTTTion! Hell, stray animals are more selective in their diet than the law school pigs.

  16. Isn't this all such a sad, lamentable mess?

    Why would ANYONE go to law school unless they were in the to 3 or 4% of their undergraduate class, and admitted to a top 5 or 10 law school?

    The debt to employment ratio is just so horrible.


    Back on October 9, 2012, the Wall Street Journal Law Blog provided this warning to the idiots at the Indiana Institute of Technology. The entry was written by Sam Favate, and it was labeled "A Fifth Law School in Indiana?" Here is the full text of that article:

    "Given the news on the legal job market and recent criticism of legal education, the opening of another law school in Indiana — a fifth — may strike some as poorly timed.

    Indiana Tech Law School intends to open its doors in 2013, and the founding dean plans to distinguish it among the competition by focusing on ethics “from the very start of school,” according to Business Insider. Prospective students have been critical of the school in an online discussion at “A pulse is all that is required” (for admission),” wrote one person. “Indiana has too many law schools,” wrote another.

    Dean Peter Alexander defended the school in a response to students in the forum, saying it will enroll only 100 students in its initial class, and that all students will complete a professionalism course in their first year, which he says in an innovation “sorely needed” in legal education. He also said he hopes the school will open in third place among five Indiana law schools. Tuition is about $30,000.

    On the blog Inside the Law School Scam, law professor Paul Campos of the University of Colorado in Boulder, points out that Indiana already has four law schools accredited by the American Bar Association, two of which have legal unemployment rates of about 40%, and are currently placing only about 20%-25% of graduates in firms with more than ten lawyers.

    “Chutzpah has been defined as murdering your parents and then pleading for mercy because you’re an orphan,” Professor Campos writes. “How about setting up another legal diploma mill in a hyper-saturated market, while claiming that what will set your school apart is its emphasis on ‘ethics’ and ‘professionalism’?”

    However, Dean Alexander points out that the school’s tuition for the class beginning in 2013 is about $10,000 less than other schools’ 2012 rates and promises that scholarships will be available, Business Insider noted. He also doesn’t expect the school to have difficulty being accredited.

    Law Blog has reached out to Dean Alexander for further comment."

    The morons and greedy swine decided to open a new law school anyway. After all, these academics only saw potential dollar signs, i.e. students, coming their way. They did not even consider the fact that many graduates of the state's existing law schools were already struggling to find work. Then again, the law school thieves get paid up front, in full.


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