Wednesday, January 27, 2016

Second Tier Toilet Villanova University School of Law Receives $25 Million Gift and Will Be Renamed After the Donor

News of the Gift: On January 20, 2016, the Philadelphia Inquirer published a piece from staff writer Susan Snyder, under the headline “Villanova law school gets $25M gift and a new name.” Check out this opening:

“Villanova University will rename its School of Law for a 1973 alumnus who went on to a career in investment management, marking the first time that one of the university's schools will carry the name of a donor. 

Charles "Chuck" Widger, founder and executive chairman of Brinker Capital, a Berwyn investment management firm, gave the school $25 million, the second-largest donation in Villanova's history, the university announced Wednesday. 

The money is largely to be used for scholarships for students who show leadership skills and an interest in both business and law - worlds that Widger has bridged. The funds also will endow a professor who will be based in the School of Law but work across disciplines and create an "innovation fund" for new academic programs, school officials said. 

"Giving to the law school has been on a tremendous upward momentum, and we see Chuck's gift as the capstone that will further propel us forward," said John Gotanda, dean of the law school, to be known as the Villanova University Charles Widger School of Law. 

The gift comes as many law schools around the country have coped with declining enrollment. It also gives Villanova's law school a boost as it overcomes a 2011 grade-inflation scandal that led to the departure of some administrators. 

Villanova's law school enrolls 492 students, down from 725 in 2011.” [Emphasis mine] 

You're welcome, bitches! Scroll down to this comical conclusion: 

“Founded in 1953, the law school counts among its graduates lawyers at some of the region's leading law firms, as well as former Gov. Ed Rendell. The school was rocked in 2011 when Villanova disclosed that a handful of administrators had inflated admissions data of incoming students to boost the law school's U.S. News & World Report rankings. Those administrators are gone. 

The school purposely downsized over the last few years as the market for lawyers declined, said Gotanda, who became dean in 2011. 

"We're to the point where we think we are just the right size," he said.” [Emphasis mine]

Sure, you pigs deliberately took in smaller class sizes – in the same way that losers choose not to ask out the pretty brunette in the office, i.e. the same woman who wouldn’t notice if their ass was on fire.  Quit trying to pass the drop in enrollment off as something that you jackals planned.

The Cesspool’s Press Release: On January 20, 2016, the dung heap posted a release that was labeled “$25 Million Gift Designated for the Villanova University School of Law from Alumnus Charles Widger, Esq. ’73 VLS.”

“Villanova University President, the Rev. Peter M. Donohue, OSA, PhD, today announced a transformative $25 million leadership gift to its School of Law from alumnus Charles Widger, Esq., ’73 VLS, founder and executive chairman of Brinker Capital. 

This investment is the largest ever to the Law School and the second largest in the University’s history. In recognition, the School will be named the “Villanova University Charles Widger School of Law.” With this designation, the Law School becomes the first named school at Villanova University.  
“Charles Widger’s historic gift recognizes the strength of Villanova’s Law School—our faculty, students and our alumni—and the unwavering belief in its future,” said the Rev. Peter M. Donohue, OSA, PhD, Villanova University President. “The gift will propel our Law School forward to new heights, and I am pleased and honored that the School will now and forever be connected to the Widger name.” 

This commitment will further strengthen the School of Law’s forward momentum and its position as a leader in legal education.” [Emphasis mine]

Enough with the hyperbole, morons. For your own sake, please use some breath mints, when you are done worshiping this man's ass. This large donation will not magically transform the school from a mediocre garbage disposal site to a stellar institution.

The Commode’s Ranking: Surely, this school must have one hell of a reputation, in order to attract such a big-ass donation. Well, US “News” & World Report rates Villanova Univer$iTTy Charle$ Widger Sewer of Law as the 87th greatest, most remarkable and exceptional law school in the entire damn country! In fact, it “only” shares this distinction with the following six toilets: Northeastern, Rutgers-Newark, St. Louis University, SUNY Buffalo, Syracuse, and the “University” of New Hampshire. What a tremendous accomplishment, huh?!?!

Tuition: As you can see, the bitches and hags are charging 1st year, full-time law students a total of $42,540 in tuition and fees – for the 2015-2016 school year. Somehow, I doubt that this $25 million contribution/purchase of naming rights to the trash pit’s coffers will help defray the cost of attendance for most of the students enrolled in this garbage pile.

Conclusion: This is such a great story. After all, there is such a shortage of academic buildings named after rich, white guys in this country! It’s nice to see such a large “gift” go to a “non-profit institution of higher learning,” right?! For $ome rea$on, these wealthy donors don’t shell out serious cash to have food pantries named after them. I suppose that these old fossils feel that would not be as “prestigious” as plastering their names on a law school – even if it happens to be merely ranked as the 87th “best” toilet in the nation.


  1. One has to wonder why an apparently successful investment manager would donate funds to a sinking 2nd tier toxic waste dump. Maybe he fancies himself a turnaround artist, or he just wants his name on the new building—some honor. Assuming the 25 million is paid in lump sum, and generates an inflation protected 3.5% endowment cash flow, the principal will generate about eight hundred thousand in scholarship revenue. This is enough for 20 full scholarships at the absurd full tuition rate of $42,000. That is one tenth of the total number of students lost since 2011.

    Academic research from Professor Harper at Northwestern has confirmed that Villanova Law is in the bottom third problematic sub-tier for legal employment outcomes. The bond rating agency, Moody Investment Services, in 2014 rated the school in the bottom quartile using its graduate employment metric.

    Bottom line is that even attending this institution on a full scholarship, plus living expenses and opportunity cost, is a very bad bet. Receiving a partial scholarship is even worse.

    1. Well put. You were no doubt a JD/MBA.

  2. Nando, I graduated from Villanova Law over two decades ago and have been bombarded with emails from the school crowing about this windfall. As you point out, the idea that Nova voluntarily reduced its class sizes is ridiculous. Nova’s admission standards have taken a nose dive since 2010 and it still suffered a huge decline in enrollment. Had Nova maintained its admission standards, there would probably be less than 50 students in a class. Dean Gotanda must think us all fools in making such a dishonest claim about purposely downsizing.

    1. I graduated from the dump about the same time and can only kick myself for not dropping out at the end of first year just like some of my smarter classmates. I told the pigs to remove me from any and all mail or contact lists. With one exception none of the people I know from my class are actually practicing law. Most are in non-law administrative jobs or working on their own fixing up and flipping residential properties. In sum, our law school money and time investment was a complete waste.

  3. If you're in Phyilly and you must go to law school, at least go to Temple.

    With Temple, you'll only have to pay half the price. A failed Temple graduate can still realistically pay-off their student loans by 60.

    1. The only law school worth attending in Filthadelphia is Penn.

    2. I did pretty well out of Temple. I wish I could say the same for some of my friends.

    3. Temple has been picking up many of the better students who would have otherwise selected Villanova. At least Temple LSAT scores are pretty stable over the past 5 years. Villanova's scores have plummeted over the same period despite all of the free money being handed out to suck in lemmings.

  4. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingJanuary 27, 2016 at 1:05 PM

    It would be kinda cool if I somehow hit the PI jackpot and with my referral fee I had a university name a the women's dorm after me...Captain Hruska Carswell Continuance Kind Women's Dorm. Old Guy, does that have a nice ring to it?

    1. An ass named Falik gave Harvard Law $100k to name a men's lavatory after him. For $24.9M more, he could have rechristened a different toilet—in Philadelphia.

  5. $42,540K per year tuition is a total rip off. You'd think that a $25M donation would help defray the cost of attendance a little bit.

    But the law school swine are only in it for the money.

    Factor in books, supplies, rent and living expenses, and a victim of this school can easily find his or herself living back with their parents trying to make $1500/mo. student loan payments. Prospective students really need to ask themselves the tough questions before signing their lives away for the dubious privilege of being a lawyer. And rest assured that a prestigious institution like Villanova won't care one bit if half of their graduates end up working as sandwich artists or baristas after they're gone.

    There are just not enough good paying law jobs out there capable of producing an income stream that will afford a graduate from a middle-of-the-road school the means of paying back a high student loan debt balance--and these law pigs know it.

    There's just no shame in this game anymore.

  6. Nando,
    I think this gift is a good thing, because it builds on and strengthens the old-fashioned and long-neglected concepts of "alumni importance" and "alumni involvement" in law schools.
    These days too many law schools focus on enrolling as many students as they can, because they get almost all of their revenue from tuition (well, the Federal loans, which derive from tuition). That is in sharp contrast to how it was many years ago, when alumni contributions were a good part of a school's revenue stream, and large gifts from grateful alumni were the bases of scholarships, endowments, and capital projects.
    Alumni give only when they are happy with their school, and keeping alumni happy used to be a major part of a law dean's job. Courting alumni was done for its long-term benefits, and there is a "virtuous-circle" effect in which happy alumni give so tuition need not cover all costs, and graduating students, appreciative of the contributions alumni have made, join the ranks of contributing alumni as soon as they are able to.
    Contrast this traditional concept with the "diploma mill" law school business plan of today, which focusses on maximizing this year's revenue through tuition increases (paid up-front with Federal loans), and ignoring alumni (especially recent alumni who DO NOT APPRECIATE the enrollment of large classes, the plummeting quality of new classes, and other decisions by the school that tend to devalue the J.D. they hold in a declining legal industry). The dean of a diploma mill does not pay attention to these concerns of alumni; he cares only about the short-term revenue stream, and this leads to the "vicious-circle" of unhappy alumni, ever-lower alumni contributions, and more dependence on tuition as the sole revenue source.
    I went to law school back in the 1990s. Students took out loans then too, and the job market had several soft points, too, including massive Federal hiring freezes. Each year the class size in my law school increased (tuition went up, A LOT, each semester), and the crowded facilities got ever more uncomfortable. Students grumbled about the crowded conditions, the tuition increases, and especially the fact that a lot of alums in the two most recent classes had not yet gotten jobs. Students brought these concerns to the dean, and to his credit he did listen to them, but the students did not succeed in getting anything changed.
    As a result, lots of students vowed that they would never give as alumni, because the school did not care about them as students. There was even a campaign to this effect called "N.O.P.E. - Not One Penny Ever". My school was not unique, au contraire!
    Getting back to the Villanova gift (my school was not Villanova), I remember the scandal a few years back and wondered if Villanova was ever going to recover from it. That an alumnus stepped up despite that scandal seems nothing short of miraculous, until you realize that the dean there actually did his job - he made an alum happy enough to give his alma mater a pot of money, nasty scandal notwithstanding.
    Would that other deans follow his example, law schools listen to their alumni concerns (including future alumni, who are current students), and the business plan of law schools abandon the "diploma mill" concept and revert to the traditional model of keeping alumni happy so they help cover the costs of instruction!

    1. Well, I went to law school in the 80s-at a TT, which may explain things, but our school didn't give 5 seconds of time to you unless you were top 10 and/or-preferably "and"-Law Review. All profs and deans made it clear we weren't to speak to them, and devoted all their efforts to the top 10%; the school made it clear the rest of us were on our own.
      That didn't stop ceaseless calls/letters after graduation-right up to today-but when I was a student there, I was the invisible man.
      So if this fat cat wants to give $25 million to an uber-trap school, that's his business. But it does not reflect glowingly on him, the dean, or anyone else-and it's clear from the press release and the interviews, the lying still continues.
      Once a TTT, always a TTT.

    2. If my law school ever hits me up for money, I'll donate a stream of very colorful profanity.

    3. In 2010, the LSAT score at Villanova's 25th percentile was 159. That's higher than today's score at the 75th percentile, which is 158. (The 25th percentile is down to 152.)

    4. The 2010 scores were inflated; the school has been a dump since the early 70s. Prior to the 70s, the school cut the bottom 35% of the class each year.

    5. How long ago were deans courting alumni? I can't believe they ever courted students. They see there job as 'gate keeper,' in reality lazy do-nothings, for the 'profession.'

    6. Absolutely correct. Teaching law or getting students to think like a lawyer is not on the agenda of the average law profe$$or. They are just screening the top 10-12% for big law. Too bad 80% of those getting big law associate positions will be cast out within 4-5 years. So the math is 2-3% of T-2 toilet grads will make big law partner. Great odds lemmings!

  7. Does adding $25 million to a shithole not make it a shithole any more?

  8. Hmm. Villanova in the second tier? I don't remember Villanova being rated so highly back when I attended law school in the early 90s. My alma crapper was (Shit) Pitt Law. For Pennsylvania it was No. 2 (i.e., a steaming pile of dung) after Penn in those days. Then there were a number of other shit-pits in the state for people with shitty grades or LSATS: places like Dick-in-son, Widener, and Duquesne. Temple was a little more selective, maybe a shade less than (Shit) Pitt. One thing about the many also-ran shit-pit Pennsylvania law schools that does not get much coverage in the scamblogs is that they actually place a fair number of grads in jobs, and many of them become successful attorneys and judges. Duquesne is especially prolific in this way. Granted, many of these jobs are political and are obtained via connections. Get this: I've seen a number of Cooleytards get DA, PD, and law clerk jobs here in western Pennsylvania. Another popular shit-pit for my region is Ohio Northern.

    Ah, I remember when I first matriculated at my dear alma crapper in 1990. Even then, it was said that there were more people in law school than there were practicing lawyers, and new classes were joining the law school ranks every year. Funny thing is, no one ever seemed to ask why so many people were admitted to law school, and what would happen to the superfluous law grads. Looking back, I guess the "JD advantage" was likely a comforting delusion for many.

    By the time I graduated in 1993, the legal employment market was depressed. My B average after first year fucked me completely; raising it to a B+ subsequently had no impact. At OCI no one would give me the time of day! Luckily, I was offered a job at the law office of a relative; I accepted reluctantly. Everyone knew I was a charity case, and I was poorly compensated and generally treated like piss. Through the same relative's connections, I got a legal job in local government, then leveraged that into a similar job in another county. The pay has never been great. I'm in my late 40s and I'm earning in the mid-60s. I'm hoping to hold onto my job until I can retire early and start drawing my pension. The family member that first hired me was a small-town solo practitioner whose practice is now in the fucking pits. Very few new clients come through his door and few want to pay. I would hate to be in private practice today.

  9. Just because someone is wealthy does not mean they know about the crisis in legal education, or even that they have much common sense. Imagine how much this idiot could have helped indebted Villanova grads if he had spent that $25M on establishing a public interest law firm which actually hired graduates to, you know, actually practice law.

    1. Why not write him a letter?

    2. Hmmm, I just may.

  10. Is this the same school where the law dean (guy before Gotunda) was frequenting prostitutes? My goodness. What a joke of a place.

  11. This guy with more money than brains apparently didn't practice law; he went into investment management instead. Where are all the happy lawyers with money to donate to this toilet?

  12. Only a fool would want to have his name on a toilet such as Villanova. And only a real idiot would pay $25M for that "privilege".

  13. Can someone help me understand why the law schools are not being held to the same standard?

    **FTC Sues DeVry University, Claims It Misled Students

    FTC chair says some grads end up working as delivery drivers


    Even though Devry is undergrad mostly and being sued for misleading graduate information.

    If we compared Devry graduates to public university graduates is there really a big difference in job placement.

    I wonder if only the "for profit" universities and law schools will be held to a higher standard.


    1. For-profit schools are an easy target for the government, but the non-profit institutions that people deify are about just as guilty of screwing over hapless kids in today's economy. Widger has done a little to ameliorate the law school scam, but it's spit in the ocean.

    2. Some graduates of law school end up as delivery drivers, too.

      I'm surprised that DeVry is a university. When I was in high school, it was a vocational institution. No college or university sent representatives to my high school; only DeVry did.

      "For-profit" and "non-profit" are just accounting categories. A "non-profit" law school just distributes the ill-gotten gains to the profe$$ors and other scamsters rather than to shareholders.

  14. “One can call a legal education many things: difficult, costly, rigorous. However, as long as lawyers use their talents to serve others and to bring fairness to our democratic system, obtaining a law degree will never be a bad investment.”

    You will be among the MOST highly educated members on earth. Welcome to the club!

    1. That's a beautifully worded pile of rubbish.

    2. Lawyers are not among the most highly educated….
      There ARE very smart people who are educated who also happen to be lawyers, but a legal education is a narrow and peculiar beast, taught inefficient (Socratic method) by non-practicioners, scholarly works edited by students (peer review, anyone?), and simply highly unrigorous. Physicians, engineers, architects, actuaries, etc, have much more rigorous educations.

      And, it is not a club. It is a tough, thankless job.

    3. Lawyers should be very smart and highly educated. Unfortunately, most are not. These days a lot of them are downright stupid. And the law skules are magnifying that problem by admitting truckloads of people who are barely intelligent enough to figure out which end of the pencil to use to mark the answer sheet on the LSAT.

    4. @Old Guy -- it's worse than what you say. They've actually dumbed down legal education in order to accommodate the stupid.

    5. You're right, 10:16. Many law skules nowadays are three-year bar-review courses. Indiana Tech is perhaps the leading example, with obligatory bar review in all six semesters—and the rest of the curriculum is probably little better.

  15. Just another old fool trying to buy himself a legacy. I hope the old coot got it in writing about how long the school has to keep his name....

  16. Why are people still going to schools like this? My neighbor's son last year started law school at a school ranked somewhere in the 90s. And he quit his job where he was making $65K a year. All so he could go to a terrible law school.

    People in this country have to lower their expectations. I have another friend who makes $70K with just a Bachelor's. He works at a financial company and is under a 3 year contract. But he got the itch for an MBA. Now he's doing the online MBA thing from a 'top 20' MBA program. Whatever that means. What is with the obsession to get advanced degrees. If you have a really good job (which is hard to do in the new economy) just work hard and distinguish yourself and get into management. That's your best chance at success. Getting into more student debt for a crappy degree certainly isn't the answer.

    1. "Top 20" means that it's no higher than 17th, and probably lower, on one or another idiotic ranking. If it were higher than that, your friend wouldn't say that it was in the top 20. Similarly, people who go to Florida or Tulane never stop gloating about their "Tier 1" law skule, whereas people who go to Harvard would never characterize their school in that way.

    2. As someone who has bounced from one low-paying job to the next for the past several years, hoping to finally catch his big break in life, I can't help but shake my head at these people making $70K, 65K, 50K or even 40K per year. My own annual pay for any job I've had so far has never even hit a $30K per year annual salary, and these idiots want to give it all up to take a gamble on friggin' law school? Don't these people even realize how good they have it?

      Where the hell are all these jobs which only require a BA and north of $50K per year, and what are they?

      Oh well, if these people really want to give up a good thing and commit financial suicide (and maybe even commit ACTUAL suicide many years down the road), then that's their fault.

      Sorry, I just needed to vent...

    3. My daughter is a middle school teacher at an upscale suburban private day school in her first year. She works hard, but makes over 50K with a 2 1/2 month vacation. Very supportive work environment with many perks and extra income opportunities for private tutoring. Most folks in the 160-165 LSAT trap school range would be better served getting a private school teaching gig than being an unemployed attorney.

    4. No, X-RWU, they don't appreciate what they have. They got it much too easily; it looks humble to them. They want more, and they don't understand that they already have quite a lot.

      Lots of jobs that require only a bachelor's degree, or even less, pay more than $50k per year. But those jobs may be few and rare, and they may require preparation or skills (in nursing, computer programming, and so on) that most people with a bachelor's degree do not have. The suggestion, common here, of taking an overpaid municipal job as a janitor or a garbage collector rings hollow because those jobs are rarely available and probably wouldn't go to a person like me anyway.

      As for your situation, have you considered taking up a trade?

    5. To answer your question, Old Guy: YES, I have considered taking up a trade, but I wouldn't know where to begin. I think I'd like to do something like work on houses (even painting the surfaces) or maybe something with carpentry, but how would I go about it? Do I just call up every such business in my area which I can find and ask them if I'm looking for work or if they're willing to train me?

      And I totally agree with you about the difficulty of someone like you or me finding a job like being a municipal garbage collector; I actually sort of sniffed around a while ago, looking for that kind of stuff. The prospects didn't look promising. Whatever I do, I just don't want to come off as desperate and begging.

      No, my greatest fear is that anyone else will see me as "too old" because I'm already pushing 30 as it is. Perhaps I should have made my moniker "Not-So-Old Guy" instead...

    6. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingJanuary 30, 2016 at 7:23 PM

      I am nobody, nobody sent. I sent John Edwards a twenty dollar check and look where it got me. With you, Old Guy.

    7. XR-U/Old Guy,

      It's true municipal jobs won't be available to people like us, but a 22 year old lemming with a shitty BA, or even better, no BA, has a very real shot, especially if they aren't in atrocious physical condition, can score a 155 plus on the LSAT, and don't have a criminal record. If you fit that profile, getting a municipal job is not that hard. It requires humility and overcoming years of social conditioning, that's it.

    8. X-RWU, maybe vocational training would be a better way to get started in a trade. Calling around isn't likely to get you anything but unskilled work, if that. Maybe you can even get a subsidy from the government for vocational school, if you have been out of work for a while.

      Just before getting a job as a lawyer, I was looking into vocational schools. I came close to giving up on law.

      Owing to rampant age-based discrimination in the legal profession, trying to break into law at age 30 or later is a bad idea. (I know: I did it in my mid-forties and had a hell of a time of it.) I doubt whether the same is true of carpenters, electricians, house painters, and other skilled tradespeople. But I can't claim to know much about that.

      9:04, those municipal jobs also realistically require established residence in the municipality. Those of us who come from small towns cannot expect to become garbage collectors in New York City or Chicago.

      I suspect that I would come across as a pointy-headed intellectual if I applied for one of those jobs.

    9. As noted above, those high-paying municipal jobs are almost impossible to get unless you are connected(sound familiar?). For example, try being a cop or a FF or a janitor in NYC; you'll find most of the accepted applicants were very well connected. So yes, those jobs do pay well, but good luck if you're unhooked. And in most smaller cities, while the work is honorable, it doesn't pay that well. Take a look at the salaries for janitors in places outside the top five cities-the pay starts very very low and advances very little over the years.

    10. Old Guy,

      Residency just gives you an extra number of points of the exam, usually (if that). However, you are correct; if you apply with too many degrees, getting the job will be difficult as you will be perceived as a pointy head intellectual, or perceived as having some other kind of problem. Now, once you get the job, you can get as many degrees as you want, and in that instance, getting the degrees might be helpful.

    11. Forget about getting a municipal job as a janitor in New York City if you live in Bumblefuck, Arkansas. You simply won't be hired. The job will go to a local with connections.

      And, as 10:50 said, you won't get high pay as a janitor in Bumblefuck, Arkansas.

      Coming from a big city offers huge advantages in life.

    12. X-RWU, I am obviously just one guy, but personally I would shy away from "trade schools". They can be pretty much as scammy as law schools. I hire some workers (fingers crossed that next work season is even bigger), and I would have a big credibility problem with someone who had never done scut work and had just gone to trade school. I didn't have good connections, so I started with bitch work.

      That said, don't psych yourself out. I've worked for successful outfits that had MAJOR turnover in their entry-level work crews, largely because they hired plenty of alkies and miscellaneous dodos. Just expect to start AT THE BOTTOM. Most degrees mean nothing to a business that does trades work. A late 20s guy with multiple degrees can't do anything more than an 18-year-old with a diploma, so expect the pay and work type to reflect that. And some of these outfits have already had overeducated workers. Hell, my first boss had two advanced degrees. Got any friends who are in trade work? Ask if they need labor.

      The first stuff I did was minimum wage grunt work for kitchen and bath remodeling. I've certainly known guys who started in room demolition who rapidly moved to $15/hour, and that's pretty much dumbass work that requires little equipment. Miserable shit though. Smashing a bathroom down to the studs might involve closing the door, putting on ear/eye protection (Bring it if it isn't provided), smashing a cast iron tub into pieces, ripping the sheetrock into pieces, and hauling hundreds of pounds of debris out in trash cans. The clouds of dust and summer heat don't help. The pros is that this kind of work doesn't require the kind of super connections that big city union/muni work usually seem to require.

      And build a reputation. Always be on time, don't show up hung over, don't steal shit, do your best, and don't bitch too much. You'll be better than a lot of hired help.

    13. Thank you to Old Guy and everyone else for the advice; I'll definitely look into it and look around, although something tells me that I'll sooner be successful taking my chances with my original writing before I ever get a job in the vocational fields.
      Also, if no one minds me playing devil's advocate for a moment... I've said it before and I'll say again: Just because white collar jobs are being decimated doesn't mean that blue collar jobs are the promised land. Remember, when the economy tanked because of the crisis with the housing market, a lot of these same blue collar workers lost their jobs, and some of them are still suffering. I totally agree that the mentality of "white collar good, blue collar bad" is BS, but I'm just saying, the answer to BS is not more BS.

    14. Also, thanks to Stonemason Esq. for his own advice as well. (And FWIW, Stonemason, you also touched upon another concern of mine: What if all the trade schools see the influx of people trying to escape and avoid college and higher education, and decide to get greedy themselves?)

  17. West Virginia University College of Law graduate here. I've also passed bar exams in two different states. I incurred approaching $100K in student loan debt while attending WVU and obtaining my J.D.. Thankfully however, I have a "J.D. Advantage" as I also passed the competency exam to obtain my taxi driver's license to allow me (unlike my law licenses) to pay for food and shelter.


    Back on October 14, 2015, the Philadelphia Inquirer publised an article, from staff write Chris Mondics, entitled “Law Review: Villanova law school paying a price despite doing right.” Take a look at the following portion:

    “Honesty is the best policy, goes the childhood refrain.

    But it can come with a price. Just ask Villanova University School of Law, which is finding that the truth still hurts years after it acknowledged a handful of administrators secretly manipulated admissions data of incoming first-year students.

    Before disclosure in early 2011 of the admissions fraud, which was perpetrated to boost the school's ranking in the U.S. News & World Report annual survey, Villanova was comfortably positioned among the nation's top 100 law schools. It was known for producing some of the region's best lawyers, and many of the leaders of Philadelphia's most influential firms had gotten their law degrees there.

    Villanova is still within the top 100, but its U.S. News ranking has plummeted 20 places since the disclosure to No. 87 in the newly released 2016 ranking.

    And it has had to spend lavishly to stay in the ratings game since it became known that the law school supplied falsified GPA and LSAT scores to both U.S. News and the American Bar Association for an unknown number of years before 2010.

    Nearly 20 percent of Villanova law students now attend tuition-free, under a generous scholarship program that has been a big draw for top students. It has blunted some of the effects of the scandal, but has cost the school millions of dollars.

    Villanova is listed No. 10 in the nation among law schools that discount tuition with scholarship aid and grants, providing an average grant of $26,755 in the 2013-14 academic year, according to National Jurist magazine. In one sense, the law school has been lucky. It has a stable of loyal, deep-pocketed alumni who stepped up after the scandal broke, helping to fund curriculum enhancements and tuition assistance that bolstered the school during a time of extraordinary trouble. Law school dean John Gotanda said all of this has had a positive effect; applications are up and so are the grade-point averages of incoming students.

    "We have been slowly building back up," Gotanda said.”

    Fast forward three months, and John GoTTTanda tries to pass off the decline in student enrollment as a deliberate plan by the law school. The pigs have spent millions of students, and the commode’s reputation remains lower than whale excrement. Unless, of course, you foolishly believe that being ranked as the 87th “greatest” law school in the land is a grand accomplishment, Dumbass.

    1. Not many "top students" are going to Villanova, where the LSAT score at the 75th percentile is 158.

  19. Villanova is too low-ranked to be a true trap school. It is a trap school wannabe.

    1. It's now a No Name School.

    2. Spot on. A real trap school is ostensibly what US News characterizes as a 1st tier-- something between a Georgetown (14) and a Boston U. (26). Instead of the top 10% having a shot at big law, the range is expanded to something between 15-25%. Still, what kind of odds are these? That 165 LSAT taker is pretty smart, and competing with a bunch of hard working fellow students with like credentials. Someone at med school has a 97% chance of being a medical doctor. The industrial legal education complex—what an utter scam.

    3. Georgetown is the quintessential trap school: great prestige (so-called "T14"), desirable location, high cost, poor outcomes (less than 50% of the class gets the sort of job—Big Law or a federal clerkship—that might enable the graduate to pay off the student loans).

  20. Wow, this guy must have been really grateful to Villanova for whatever he thinks they did for him and his success in life. Still... TWENTY-FIVE MILLION DOLLARS ($25,000,000)? You think he still would have gotten a building named after him and everything if he had offered only $1M?

    And something tells me that this isn't going to benefit the students at all, and will somehow go straight into the scampigs' wallets. How quickly do you think they'll blow through it all?


    Back on July 7, 2009, Philadelphia Business Journal published a Jeff Blumenthal piece, entitled “Villanove law dean resigned over prostitution.” Read the following:

    “Villanova University officials said former law school dean Mark Sargent will not return to the faculty in the wake of his being linked to a prostitution ring.

    On Monday, Villanova released a statement saying that at the same time Sargent resigned, he informed school officials of his connection with the investigation being conducted by Pennsylvania State Police. The university said it accepted his resignation.

    “We are deeply saddened and disappointed about these events; as an institution of higher education we take the reputation of our administration and faculty very seriously,” the statement read.

    Less than a week after Mark Sargent’s abrupt resignation on June 29, when he cited personal and medical reasons, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported that Sargent was apparently patronizing prostitutes. Citing a report from the state police, the Inquirer reported Sargent was one of two customers who provided information that culminated last week in a no-contest plea by the man promoting the business. The Inquirer said Sargent was a customer at a Kennett Township house suspected as a site for prostitution when police raided it Nov. 25. He was not charged.

    Citing the police report, the Inquirer said Sargent paid a woman $170 for 35 minutes of sexual contact between noon and 1 p.m. on Nov. 25, and that Sargent, who is married, said he saw an ad on Craigslist, “got curious,” and responded to it.

    When I reported on his resignation last week, I noted that Villanova did not provide any background information in its press release about Sargent’s accomplishments, of which he had many considering he held the job for 12 years. Nor did it state whether he would be returning to the faculty. Instead, it focused on his interim successor, Associate Dean Doris DelTosto Brogan.

    Sargent’s lawyer, former Montgomery County District Attorney and current Montgomery County Commissioner Bruce Castor Jr., did not respond to requests for comment.

    Chester County District Attorney Joseph Carroll, whose office is prosecuting the case, said before the news became public, he did receive a call from Castor asking if he was planning on releasing Sargent’s name. He said he told him no.

    But Carroll said that Sargent did not receive any special treatment in the case after the brothel owner, Stephen Clark, who pleaded no contest and is serving a prison sentence, accused prosecutors of going light on the dean. Carroll said if the case had gone to trial, Sargent would have testified and was treated the same as the other alleged customer.

    Sargent had been Villanova Law’s dean since 1997, when he joined the school after serving as a professor and associate dean at University of Maryland School of Law. He also taught at the law schools of American University, Southern Methodist University and the University of Baltimore. He was the longest-tenured law school dean among the six local schools.

    Chief among his accomplishments was overseeing the construction of the new law school building.”

    Unless the trash pit has since constructed yet another building, then it seems that Charles Widger’s name will be featured prominently on the edifice that former Villanova Law dean, Mark Sargent, oversaw. By the way, does this commode offer any courses or certificates in Prostitution Law?!?!


    Back on February 4, 2011, Elie Mystal wiped his ass with Villanova University Sewer of Law in an labeled “Villanova Law School Knowingly Reported Inaccurate Information to the ABA.” Check out this epic opening:

    “In a letter just released to students and alumni of Villanova University School of Law, Dean John Y. Gotanda admits that Villanova Law knowingly reported inaccurate admissions information to the American Bar Association, for years prior to 2010.

    The school has conducted an internal investigation and has been independently audited by Ropes & Gray. In response to the investigation and audit findings, the school will reorganize its admissions reporting process, with the goal of implementing “a reporting system which is above reproach.” In addition, according to Dean Gotanda’s letter, “the University will hold those responsible accountable for their actions.”

    Sadly, this is not the first scandal that has rocked the law school in recent years….

    Dean John Gotanda is the new Villanova law dean. The previous dean, Mark Sargent, resigned under difficult circumstances.

    Dean Sargent’s problems had to do with his personal life. Right now Dean Gotanda is dealing with a more important professional crisis. Regardless of what you say to prospective law students, you’ve got to be accurate in your direct dealings with the ABA.

    It seems that Dean Gotanda is at least getting out in front of this issue. Below is his full letter to the Villanova Law School community.

    UPDATE: There’s some additional information over at the ABA Journal. A Villanova spokesperson told the publication that “at this point it appears that [the inaccurate information] is limited to LSAT and GPA scores.”

    In the final analysis, this rancid pile of trash KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY lied about LSAT and GPA metrics. As a result, the toilet’s reputation has taken a hit. Fewer have applied to this dung heap. However, morons continue to enroll in this stench pit.

    This is the equivalent of dating a hideous, fat woman - out of a sense of desperation. If these waterheads cannot be bothered to look after their own financial well-being, how in the hell can they be entrusted with representing others in legal matters?!

    1. Hah, they lied, but the students didn't "rely" on that, and are just lazy dumb losers that need to network harder and have been smarter right after they signed their student loan papers.

      I remember personally feeling like after 1L year I lost a significant degree of my marketability. And that was even placing top 10%. I should have just quit right there, and boy do I wish I had.

      I've had so much misery since then, I am so glad to know I'm not the only one. Sometimes it gets really depressing thinking it was just me being so fucking stupid and everyone else has that million dollar career premium.

  23. Old Guy,

    Not true. If you come to a big city, establish residency for a few months, work some shit jobs, and take the tests and score well, you will have the job. I know plenty of connected folks that could not get on, and plenty of transplants that got the jobs. It is true though that you can't do this when you are older, and you can't do it if you are overqualified. The guys in these jobs, many of whom make well over six figures, feel that they are underpaid, and they feel white collar is the way to go. They have aspirations that their kids will go to college, and do better. They don't want this belief challenged by reality. The other half knows the deal, and they feel that the people who were wise enough to get into a city gig should be rewarded, and the idiots who fell into the traps should be kept out.

  24. Bottom line, if your degree is not engineering or STEM, or you are not Ivy League or top 10 liberal Arts, forget about a professional career. You will be in a trade or the gig economy. Of course, if Daddy owns a business, nothing else matters if you take advantage of the opportunity and work hard...

  25. Former Dear Sargent paid $170 for 35 minutes. At least he got something for his money. Same can't be said of the poor fools who graduate anything other than top 10 or 15% at Villanova Law School.


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