Sunday, April 10, 2016

Bar Exam Results Continue to Plummet: February 2016 MBE Average Score Reaches the Lowest Point Since 1983

No Longer News: On April 1, 2016, the Wall Street Journal Law Blog featured a Jacob Gershman piece that was entitled “Bar Exam Scores Slip Even Further.” Check out this sharp opening:

“The vexing trend of declining bar exam performance is showing no signs of letting up. 

Average scores on the standardized portion of the bar exam administered in February sank to the lowest level in more than three decades, according to the developers of the widely used test. 

The ABA Journal has more on the latest figures from the National Conference of Bar Examiners, which prepares the six-hour, multiple-choice question Multistate Bar Examination: 

The mean scaled score on the February administration of the Multistate Bar Examination fell to 135, down 1.2 points from the previous year and the lowest average score on a February administration of the test since 1983. 

The number of test-takers was up 4 percent from last year, from 22,396 in 2015 to 23,324 this year, according to Erica Moeser, president of the National Conference of Bar Examiners, which developed and scores the test. 

February scores are typically lower than July scores, Moeser said, because July test-takers tend to be first-time test takers, who generally score higher on the exam than repeat takers. 

Disappointing but not a shock is how Ms. Moeser described the results. For a couple of years, she’s been warning — and arguing with some law schools — about the caliber of students they’re admitting.” [Emphasis mine] 

It’s uncanny how admitting lesser qualified students into ABA-accredited toilets directly results in lower bar exam scores, huh?!?! Thankfully, Erica Moeser has held firm against the law school pigs. Don’t be surprised if the swine start lobbying state legislatures hard for “diploma privilege.” After all, if TTTT grads can be admitted to practice without taking the exam, it would reduce some potential embarrassment for the diploma mills with weak-ass bar passage rates.

Other Coverage: Staci Zaretsky slammed the law school cockroaches in her April 1, 2016 entry, “Multistate Bar Exam Average Score Plummets to Three-Decade Low.” Enjoy the following excerpt:

“How can this “downward trend” be stopped? One need only look to America’s law schools to find both the source and the solution to this problem. 

When enrollment began to decline, numerous law schools lowered their admissions standards to fill their otherwise empty seats in an effort to avoid future financial troubles, with little regard as to whether their newly admitted students would be able to pass the bar exam after graduation. Admission standards must be raised to end this misery. If for some reason law schools find themselves unwilling to do so, they must institute and enforce the taking of remedial bar-exam preparation courses for all students, free of cost, for it was the law schools that set these students up for their incredibly expensive, but perhaps fruitless journeys in the first place. 

We’ve said it multiple times in the past, and we’ll say it again because it continues to bear repeating: “Until law schools realize they’re doing a disservice to everyone — their students, their graduates, and their graduates’ future clients — things will only continue to get worse.” Don’t let the dumbing down of the legal profession happen on your watch.” [Emphasis mine]

The “law professors” and administrators don’t give one damn about their students or graduates. The thieves still receive federal student loans, even when they enroll waterheads. As such, they have no incentive to maintain or increase their admi$$ion$ “standards.”

Derek Muller, who teaches law at Pepperdine Univer$iTTy, wrote a brief piece labeled “February 2016 MBE Bar Exam Scores Drop to Lowest Point Since 1983. It was also published on April 1, 2016. Read the full text below:

“I've written extensively about the bar exam, including the significant decline in bar exam scores, specifically the Multistate Bar Exam, and the corresponding the decline in pass rates in most jurisdictions. The February 2016 results are the fourth consecutive exam to display a significant decline in MBE scores. In fact, it's the lowest score on the February test since 1983--even worse than the July 2015 results, which were the lowest since 1988. Below is a visualization of February test scores since 2005--note the precipitous drop in the last two tests. (I may visualize results since 1983 in the future.) 

This will likely mean a decline in pass rates in most jurisdictions, news of which will trickle out over the next several weeks. The decline in scores continues to correlate with declines in student quality, as law schools admitted classes with an increased number of students at risk of failing the bar exam. Whether other factors contribute to the decline remains an open question. But this helps illustrate that the problems are not one-time issues as the result of ExamSoft--they are structural and long-term issues with significant consequences. I'll blog more about this in the near future.” [Emphasis mine]

Perhaps, Pig Nicholas Allard is correct, and the MBE is too damn difficult for the cretins who graduate from his cesspit. Then again, he is the rat bastard who is admitting the mentally deficient.

Conclusion: Don’t expect the law school pigs to accept any responsibility for the continued drop in bar scores. These “educators” have the morals and ethics of a career criminal. Hell, if they started recruiting – and enrolling – homeless bums and drug addicts, the bitches and hags would blame that on Erica Moeser. I can picture it now, i.e. “It’s your fault that we have to admit such dregs of society. People with an IQ above room temperature see the decline in bar passage rates, and they don’t want to take out $140K+ in student loans any more.” 


  1. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingApril 10, 2016 at 7:53 AM

    The best and the brightest will not seek a profession that is oversaturated and pay $150K to be a part of it. They don't want to end up being a solo like me. Exhausted chasing three bill retail thefts and being UNDERCUT by a desperate newbie with Sallie Mae breathing down their neck. Solos and micro firms (aka boutique law groups) are barely hanging on. Drive down Western Ave in Chicago and count the number of store front law OFFICES/FIRMS. Then pick a main cross street going east and west. Start your count again. This is replicated in LA. My law buddy from school sits at an In N Out Burger with his cell phone....he is too ashamed to go home...he has no work either.

  2. With the retards they're letting into law school nowadays what's next? Write a one page letter on why you really, really wanna be a lawyer?

  3. I have a neighbor who is attending law school at one of these TTTT diploma mills; she only shops at Whole Foods, drinks a bottle of wine every night and insists on paying laundry for her second hand $20 dresses. Do they even bother to teach compound interests in college anymore?

  4. Does it matter?

    Education does not create jobs.

    They're actually better off not passing. Ideally, better off had they not gone up front but the sooner they discontinue their efforts on the back end and move on from law, the better off the majority of these folks will be, albeit calling someone "better off" after they incur non-dischargeable debt of $150-$200K (excluding undergrad) may be quite a stretch.

  5. My ex is graduating from Coolie next week - looks like the odds are against her (~2.5 GPA). She has about $220k total in student loans...

    1. please delete - duplicate post.

    2. A 2.5 GPA from Cooley?!? I don't think she's qualified to breathe and walk at the same time.

    3. 2.5 at Cooley?

      She must be a stupid fucking bitch. When she's taking your order at McD's ask for extra ketchup.

    4. I would say average intelligence, but terrible test taker. She booked some (writing based) classes - but fails miserably on multiple choice...
      I tried to explain the concepts of loans/interest and compounding, but she is the "instant gratification" type.

    5. 8:04 AM "Average intelligence"; just consider that being a grad student she has reached her zenith. It's only downhill from here. Just wait until she's taking care of the kids, she'll seem like a babbling idiot.

  6. I oppose "diploma privilege". The last time I checked, Wisconsin and New Hampshire admitted graduates of their respective state universities without examination. By so doing, they entrust the law schools with the task of determining those candidates' competence. But we know damn well that the law skules will not do that responsibly: they take idiots in and turn idiots out.

    I also disagree with the suggestion that the law schools be required to pay for bar-review courses for the idiots that they have unscrupulously admitted. Coaching idiots into achieving a passing score on an already undemanding exam is no favor to the legal profession or the public.

  7. My ex is graduating Cooley next week... looks like the odds are against her (2.5GPA). Poor thing has over $200k in student loans... and was trying to secure additional $10-15k bar loan to pay for bar prep.

  8. According to this Sunday's Parade Magazine, Attorney Brian D. Bixby, Esq., 63 of Boston earns $875,000 a year. Do you have it all wrong? Maybe you are just lazy, along with the Captain?

    1. Yes, that's it-most lawyers in America earn $875,000/annually, and it's just the posters here who don't earn that amount. There's no crisis, no scam-it's all sunshine and lollipops.
      Seriously, Parade magazine? Get off the couch and maybe do some research. Even the vultures at the ABA don't claim that sort of income for lawyers.

      The TTTs graduating these dolts are tarnishing whatever was left(ok, it wasn't much) of this "profession". And it's a ticking time bomb; in the next 10 years the claims for legal malpractice will skyrocket, and it will come to the public's attention when underwriters refuse to write new policies-that will make news. The ABA will anguish, and appoint another committee of TTT deans to write a paper on what to do, which of course won't include any law school closures. As it becomes ever more clear that many, many attorneys are incompetent, then maybe just maybe a few of the worst will close.
      But not until then. It's April 2016; the scam is well known and still not one school has closed. The next thing we'll see is a coordinated TTT attack on the MBE, both through diploma privilege and through pressuring the state bars to lower the MBE score needed for passage. These scammers aren't giving up without a fight, and aren't going away anytime soon. And their apologists are everywhere-just see 2:35's post.
      It's almost impossible to believe-but it's true-that dolts are still incurring 200K+ in debt to attend the TTTs.

    2. Anecdotes are easy. Who is saying there aren't successful attorneys?

    3. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingApril 11, 2016 at 6:07 AM

      The problem is that this is the information this widely gets out there. It has a tremendous cultural attraction. Its the same thing for the Mega Ball. One guy wins the lottery and millions line up behind him. Or maybe Bixby is bullshitting? How did Parade Magazine find the ONE attorney who makes this coin? I know hundreds of lawyers and none, none come even close to his income. Most earn 10% and much lower and all out 10 years or more. I read that too and I called my buddy and asked, "What the fuck is wrong with us?"

    4. Age 63 is the key part there. He got into law before the scam really took off.

      Besides, if you want examples then you can find any number of Biglaw Partners making seven figures.

  9. I was recently at a social get together with alums of my undergraduate alma mater. One of my former classmates is now a professor at a local NYC cesspool law school. I asked him about the caliber of law students and he admitted they were morons. Law professors have always looked down on their students with disdain, even when the applicant pool was strong. Imagine how law professors view the current bumper crop.

    1. I'd appreciate it if you would elaborate, if possible. I want to know more.

  10. Nando,
    Thank you so much for the service you provide. You really are making a difference in the lives of people who read your blog. Many years ago, before the scamblog movement, I attended a 2nd tier cesspool. I was a member of my cesspool’s law review (a worthless academic distinction). During the fall of my second year, it became quickly apparent that law firms were not interested in hiring from my school. My good friend and I on law review did not receive a single call back interview. We were assured by our career services office not to worry, most people did not get jobs through on campus interviewing (despite bragging at an open house event a year earlier, everyone gets a job averaging about $100k, and all sorts of great employers come to campus to interview students). During this time, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan was not going well. The military was desperately trying to recruit anyone with a pulse, including criminals. I felt because the wars were going so badly, I had an obligation to serve. I had a naïve goal at that time to get a legal job and join the Army reserves. I had no interest in JAG, because I wanted to be a Soldier, not prosecute Soldiers. During the summer after my second year, I talked to a solo practitioner who was upfront with me about the legal profession. He told me my only options were to go solo or try to snag a government job. The chances of getting hired by a law firm as a graduate of my cesspool were quite low. During my third year and leading up to the bar exam, I applied to numerous jobs and landed nothing. So after passing the bar, I enlisted in the Army.

    I went through basic training, airborne school, and later went to Iraq. I paid off my $150k in student loans with my enlistment bonus, the Army student loan repayment program, and the tax free money I earned in Iraq. Iraq was a life changing experience. After what I saw in Iraq, I wished I was a doctor. I decided I wanted to become a doctor. But I only had a worthless liberal arts degree with no science background. Around that time, the economy had tanked and you started blogging about the legal profession. One day I just happened to come across your blog. The information you provided, along with all of the people who contributed with comments, helped me to realize that law was never going to be an option. I also knew that the military was not a reliable career either. The wars started winding down and the Army began cutting the fat. So I left the Army and used the GI bill to return to undergrad and take the science courses required to attend med school. I took the MCAT. Now I am a student at an MD program on scholarship.

    I cannot thank you enough for all that you have done. Reading your blog over the years helped me to realize there was no need for me to try to salvage some kind of law career as a solo in this saturated market or working in shit law. You gave me the courage to go back to school and pursue something much better. I’m not alone in the route I took either. In the Army I met a few law grads who choose to enlist after law school. I also met a med student who left the law and attended med school for many of the reasons same reasons so many other people leave law.

    Thank you again Nando. Keep up the good fight.

    1. Thank you for posting your story, sir. I am glad to have helped bring the law school scam to your attention. However, you followed through and made the smart decision to get into a real profession. Take care, and feel free to contribute comments here - as you see fit.

    2. Med school, the next, I mean, the last frontier. I hear they had so many doctors in Cuba many were driving cabs for a living, but I digress, that could never happen here.

    3. Regarding the falling bar exam scores, I do have a relevant story. While applying to medical schools, an admissions rep gave a presentation to a group of us premeds. She said that the medical school she represented did put a lot of weight on the MCAT. The reason was because after the 2nd year of school, students have to take the Step 1 exam, and if students don’t pass, they cannot move onto the third year. She said the MCAT WAS A GOOD INDICATION of whether or not a student would pass Step 1. Also, the rep said, the school did not want to put students in a situation where they borrowed a lot of money, only to fail Step 1 and be in a position where they would never practice medicine.

      A few other observations on law school after having gone back to school to earn a STEM degree and pursue a MD. Law school is the worst “education” I have ever received. In science and medicine, the objectives of every lecture are clear. Professors do not answer questions with more questions. Then proclaim they are teaching students how to “think.” The professors do not need to obfuscate because only a handful of students will get jobs and they need to differentiate a handful of students from the rest. Everyone can get a perfect score on a science exam. In fact, medical school courses are pass/fail. There is no grading curve in place so that the 5% of students that big firms will hire can be identified and so that schools can take away scholarships from students. STEM and medical school exams are not rambling, fanciful fact patterns that are subjectively graded. They are challenging objective tests designed to test your ability to think critically about the material. Also, medical school courses are clinically relevant to the practice of medicine. For instance, in biochemistry there was less focus on knowing every step of a pathway and more focus on knowing the consequences of a problem in the pathway, and the diseases that result. Contrast that with property law where you spend a day talking about who owns a stupid fox in 1800, instead of learning about actually writing a will or closing on a property sale. In addition, MDs who teach at medical schools and serve as Deans still practice medicine. The PhDs that teach at medical schools carry out meaningful research. Compare that to law, where JDs flock from big firms to law schools to avoid practicing law. The Harvard Law graduates that taught at my law school were blithering idiots, who were nowhere near as intelligent as the state school educated MDs and PhDs who taught me medicine. I doubt that a dean or professor of a law school cares about the poor quality of education at their school. They would just respond to this by trolling I never wanted to be a lawyer, I wasn’t smart enough to understand their brilliant teaching, or some other nonsense.

      One last note. Psychologists have observed that an unusually high number of sociopaths flock to the legal profession. These people enjoy inflicting pain on others and the legal profession gives them the avenue for fulling their desires. On top of that, the low pay in the legal profession, combined with the high levels of stress leads to an abnormally high rate of alcoholism and drug abuse in the legal profession. Reading some of the horror stories of recent law grads working shit law, working as solos, or working in document review, I sometimes wonder if I had it better in Iraq than these poor souls did.

    4. @ Anonymous; April 10, 2016 at 10:23 PM:
      First, let me just say, sir: Thank you for serving our country.

      Also, congratulations on finding better callings and using your earnings to pursue a better calling in life, like the noble endeavor of being a doctor who can save other people's lives.

      All that being said, good luck with all your future endeavors.

    5. @10:23,

      We need successful people like you to come out in the open and share their story. A favorite tactic of the scammer is to find any personal defect associated with a specific critic of the law school scam, and attribute said defect as the sole cause of failure for that critic. This is the same tactic MLM scams use; the sole difference being that failing at MLM isn't as punitive, and succeeding in it carries a much higher upside (to the idiot identifying the Boston attorney making 875k, check out what an Amway double crown makes, but that still doesn't change the fact that over 90 percent of MLM participants get fleeced).

      With your incredible academic success and service to our country, it would be very difficult for the scammers to pull that shit with you.

      Most of us in this filthy profession have to remain anonymous if we are to retain any employability. However, someone with your background is basically beyond reproach. You are the definition of success from all aspects in life, and if you share your story openly, I think it would deal these crooks a strong blow.

      Thank you for your service.

    6. He sounds like an advertisement for the army. Notice how your only options are to either become a debt slave or go kill people in a foreign land.

    7. I wrote about that Boston attorney earning 875K. You called me an idiot. I agree. I entered this profession 30 years ago and for the last 10 years or so it has been a struggle. My family accepted public aid. However, don't attack the messenger. The real problem is that purported salary and lawyer appeared in Parade Magazine. A mainstream far more widely than these Blogs or websites. The notion of a "million dollar degree" is out there and is pulling in newbies who don't know this one guy won the lottery.

    8. @ Anonymous at 8:50 AM:
      Really? It didn't sound like an advertisement to me. He wasn't encouraging others to join the army, and he pointed out that a lot of "fat" got cut after a certain time period.
      Still, you do raise a good point about both higher education and the armed forces becoming enrollment traps for clueless young people. You're not the first either; you might like this article:
      Possibly the best lines of the whole article...
      "In fact, college and the military share eerily-similar positions in American society, and it starts with the way the two are impressed upon us early on. At most high schools, the only recruiters who are given access to students are either from universities or the armed services. Thousands and thousands of possible organizations are in existence, but this pair is the sole, binary choice presented to students. If they don't push you into one, they'll feed you into the other. It really is disgusting.

      Both the military and higher ed also enjoy an untouchable status in the American consciousness. I was about to say that the two were sanctified beyond criticism, but that's not quite right. It's worse than that. Everyone recognizes the abject failure of these institutions, yet in some impressive Orwellian double-think, still justifies them as necessary evils. This is how deeply we've been conditioned."

    9. @ 8:50,

      For many young people who've been duped by the education industry, the army is their best bet at getting ahead in life. Sad, but it's how things have ended up.

    10. 9:58 AM, If by "getting ahead in life" you mean selling your soul to the devil, than yes, I agree. Of course, there are other options, like say, committing your life to God or at least some altruistic organization, but that is not nearly as glamorous or financially rewarding as becoming a lawyer or so Hollywood would like us to think. The point is, there are other options besides those two false choices.

    11. I'd like to correct some points from the medical gentleman.
      Most med schools are just as obsessed with the curve. NYMC differentiates the top 1 percent, for derm residency placements with outrageous tests and hidden class rank via dean letter templates. This results in half the class hovering around failing at any one time. Additionally, about ten percent of the class doesn't graduate on time or at all, with a further 2 percent not getting through residency training, all told an 8 year oddessey after undergraduate years.
      Classes in such an environment are anything but straight forward. the same nerd ego pushes around the departements, adding unecessary nonsense. My school made us memorize the Krebs Cycle, pure theoretical crap. Learning whole classes, such as embryology was on your own time, as there was not enough time to even begin to superficially present it in class.
      Also, the Hell factor is much higher in medicine. I won't go into the details of this, but there was much medicating and social pathology at NYMC.

      The above poster was lucky in that his classes are pass/fail, making class rank unecessary. If his lectures/tests are objective and geared to medical knowledge, good for him.

      Choose well...

  11. The real question is this:

    Has lowering law school entrance criteria hurt the legal profession/ or public?

    The answer is a big FAT - "NO".

    No increase in legal malpractice has surfaced "yet", so this is not that big of a deal.

    1. That's not the "real" question; indeed is one of many questions. And I'll tell you one of the many ways this criminal behavior and senseless misallocation of resources has hurt the public: 1.3 trillion in student debt and growing that the taxpayers are going to have to pay for one way or another! I know this is probably too hard to understand for someone with a 135 LSAT score, but when you default on your loans and the government steps in and bails you out, the rest of the "public" has to pay for it!

    2. They can't pass the bar and/or can't get a law job, so they are not practicing.

    3. Yes. Take a look at the at any jurisdiction's lawyer regulatory agency. You will see tons of newbies from 06 and later getting sanctioned. One recent graduate was disbarred for neglecting a federal case and had a 500K judgment entered against him.


    On April 7, 2016, Paul Caron’s blog featured an op-ed from Professor David Barnhizer, with the epic headline, “As LSAT and MBE Scores Fall, 1L Enrollment Needs To Fall To 25,000 (From 35,500 in 2015).” Look at his conclusion:

    “In understanding the implications of the data another critical question is how students are increasingly being distributed among the 200 plus US law schools. It is a “no brainer” to suggest that as the proportions and absolute numbers of high-end students have slumped dramatically the more highly ranked law schools have admitted many of the most qualified applicants in the shrunken applicant pool and siphoned away a tier of very good students who would previously not been admitted to the “elite” law schools but matriculated in a respected school in a slightly lower reputational category. This “siphoning” has not only left lower ranked law schools to reduce the size of their entering classes but, as indicated above, to also admit many students they would have automatically rejected only a very few years ago. A legitimate conclusion is that somehow, fifty or sixty US law schools that should disappear have created a kind of “Anti-Darwinian” universe in which survival does not depend on qualitative “fitness” but on the ability to “scavenge” on the carcasses of unqualified applicants who qualify for significant federal loans and subsidies they will never be able to repay.

    One point I would like to suggest is that in the “Below 150 LSAT” category perhaps only 1000 of those students ought to have been admitted, reducing that category in the 2015 class by 7500 entering students. I will also suggest that in numerous instances it is not unlikely that of the 150-154 LSAT category it is not unreasonable to think that some of those students would not have been admitted based on the total “package” of credentials of which the LSAT is a part. Just as with the “Below 150 LSAT” admissions where law schools may claim they have expanded their ability to recognize special qualities of applicants that indicate an enhanced prospect of success and factors that increase the likelihood they would be good law students and successful lawyers, we need to consider that in this difficult competitive climate law schools are admitting marginal students simply in order to fill seats and obtain operating revenue. It is not at all unreasonable to think that a number of the 150-154 students are not candidates for success as law students or lawyers.

    If we take actual demonstrated qualitative considerations into account and reduce the numbers of students entering law schools by 10,000 new First Year students (7500 “Below 150” and 2500 “150-154” admissions) that would mean US law schools should be admitting new First Year classes of 25,000 at most. Qualitatively, and in keeping with the availability of “lawyer jobs”, this scale seems to make sense. Economically, however, it would be the “death-knell” for a number of law schools and will never happen without external intervention.”

    So much for the concept of “survival of the fittest,” at least as it pertains to “legal education.” In the end, the pigs will continue to suck on the federal student loan teat for as long as they can.

    Take a look at the chart in this story. From 2010-2015, regarding first year students, there were 3,900 fewer enrolled with 165+ LSAT scores – while there was an increase of 1,500+ with LSAT results below 150. You can CLEARLY see that the cockroaches will do what they can to stay in operation. They have no integrity.

  13. Team AAMPLE:

    The message here is simple. Everyone deserves a chance to practice law. The legal field is no longer a Good O'l Boys club. Loans opened the door for a level playing field.

    The Cooley grads get taught the same subjects as the grads from the top 14 law schools.

    Don't let exam taking fool you:

    The LSAT: artificial barrier, that's why for years legal programs have existed to side step/ bypass the LSAT in admissions considerations.... CLEO, AAMPLE, LEAP.... there are so many more.

    The BAR: This has been dissolved in two states already, all you have to do is graduate from law school and you can practice. The BAR testing falls short on many level: ex. this is why new lawyers can graduate law school, take BAR/BRI - pass the BAR and still not know how to practice. (you should look at the stats in your local state for disbarred / malpractice affected lawyers.

    don't fall for all the "perception" BS people are selling. Its unfair to classify some law grads as inferior when they went through the same training!!

    Avoid the debt, consider the HCBU's !

    1. Team AAMPLE: Again with the Bonfire of the Inanities..
      First, it's HBCU(historically Black colleges and universities). For you to consistently mess that's clear that abstract reasoning skills aren't your forte.
      2. What is your area of legal practice again, and how long have you been doing it? You won't answer, b/c you aren't a lawyer and have no clue what you're talking about.
      3. Yes, the LSAT and the Bar are "artificial" barriers, as are the MCAT/DAT, etc etc and all the medical/dental/pharmacy/nursing boards. So I'll ask, again, should we remove the "artificial" barriers to entry for the healthcare fields? Would you be willing to visit an unlicensed physician? Again, you won't answer, b/c sometimes those "artificial" barriers are the only way to establish even minimal levels of competence.
      4. Oh, and NONE of the HBCU law schools offer the AAMPLE program-so if AAMPLE is so great, why are you recommending HBCU law schools?
      5. And forget everything else-it won't take you long-the bottom line: there are too many attorneys. Wayyyy too many attorneys. AAMPLE/no AAMPLE/HBCUs/all the tiers-it makes no difference-there are too many lawyers, period full stop.
      So get off the couch and learn something.

    2. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingApril 12, 2016 at 8:47 PM

      Everyone deserves to play in the NFL and earn $10.0 million per year. Everyone deserves to engineer your next car's safety systems. If you need surgery, would you want a surgeon who just feels she deserves it?

    3. @5:55pm

      In all fairness most if not all of the HBCU offer an alternative admit program for Law School, but by different names. (cousin programs to AAMPLE)

      An attorney graduates, passes the bar and still in not competent enough to practice. So your putting to much emphasis on the Bar. The other professions you mentioned operate way differently than law and you know it (they are required to get experience, in order to practice). Stop comparing apple to oranges.

      Also note: a typo never killed anyone. Yes, there are a lot of attorney's but a living can still be made, if you hustle hard, and swing for the fence.

    4. I talked to an attorney buddy about Cooley. He said Cooley is reserved for folks who can't even get into Chicago John Marshall. They are the equivalent of Blackstone College of Law and LaSalle Extension University.

    5. The politics of envy at work: "the legal field is no longer a Good O'l boys club." Yep, you are absolutely going to out compete those Park Avenue attorneys by getting that Cooley Law degree for 200k in non-discharge able debt. The practice of law is and will always be a Good Ol boys club. The good paying jobs are going to go to the children of the upper class, like the professors teaching at these filthy fourth tier cesspools.

      If you are a poor minority with a little ambition and hard work, right now, today, you can apply to municipal jobs in Los Angeles, New York City, Boston, etc. You will make six figures. You will retire within 25 years. You will be politically protected. You will have no student loans. AND if you want to go to law school, the municipality will pay for it!!!!

      A cop in New York City makes 110k with no student loans. A garbageman makes 100k with no student loans. An ADA makes 55k with 200k in student loans. (I didn't even get into retirement benefits). You tell me what sounds better. These charlatans want to steal your future to
      Get paid. They want to use envy to push you
      Into making an irrational decision. If you go to one of these toilet schools or one of these toilets programs, I.e AAMPLE, you are most likely going to be poor. You aren't going to compete with the Good Ol Boy on Park Avenue. The nice liberal people telling you to go to law school will never hire you to work at their firm. No. You will be forced to work for shit wages. You will be forced to sacrifice your life to make false attempts At helping the people in your socioeconomic class who lacked the ambition, work ethic, and drive that lead you to make at least an attempt at a better life. You will be forced to do this not because those selling you this fantasy want to help the poor, but because those selling you this are part of the upper class, i.e. Good Ol boy, they criticize, except they are lazier than their law firm counterparts. You are the vehicle for them to be parasites. You are a straw for them to suck the tax payer carcass. They don't care about you or the poor.

      Don't let envy govern you. Be governed by rational self interest. Get a job for a government entity and ride that gravy train into the sunset.

    6. Sorry 5:09am, you're flat wrong. You"re simply an apologist for the scam, so it's best for all that you admit it.
      And no, those other professions don't work differently-nurses, for example, graduate and take the nursing boards-if they pass, as brand new BSNs, they are fully licensed nurses. Same with dentists-and physicians can get licensed after one year of residency. So no, they aren't any different-in all three the licensing exams establish minimal levels of competence. So you're flat wrong about the healthcare licensing.
      No one ever suggested that a typo ever killed anyone-but glad to see you finally got the acronym correct(uh, and it is attorneys, not attorney's). But your pap suggesting "hustle hard" and "swing for the fences" is advice to give a Little League ballplayer(say about age 8). You consistently and conveniently ignore both the cost(FAMU non-resident tuiton and fees $34,000/year) and abysmal job stats(43 graduates flat unemployed 9 months after graduation out of a class of 174). So you're recommending that it's a good investment to spend 150K for a school with 25% unemployed?
      That's truly terrible advice.
      And I guess i missed it-do you practice law? If so, where and doing what?
      You never answer that b/c your utterly clueless, feeling wonderfully satisfied that maybe one person will take your terrible advice.

  14. 6:44 AM "Psychologists have observed that an unusually high number of sociopaths flock to the legal profession." I can confirm that my ex had a borderline pathological desire to appear as someone who clearly she was not. Thank you Nando for your efforts. Reading the comment section has been enlightening, and not only for those thinking about attending law school, but for those of us who considered marrying an attorney.


    On March 31, 2016, the ABA Journal published a Mark Hansen piece that was entitled “Multistate Bar Exam average score falls to 33-year low.” Here is the full text:

    “The mean scaled score on the February administration of the Multistate Bar Examination fell to 135, down 1.2 points from the previous year and the lowest average score on a February administration of the test since 1983.

    The number of test-takers was up 4 percent from last year, from 22,396 in 2015 to 23,324 this year, according to Erica Moeser, president of the National Conference of Bar Examiners, which developed and scores the test.

    February scores are typically lower than July scores, Moeser said, because July test-takers tend to be first-time test takers, who generally score higher on the exam than repeat takers.
    She said the results, while “a bit disappointing,” are not a surprise.

    “We believe we’re in the middle of a downward trend that is likely to continue for at least a couple more years,” she said.

    The multistate bar exam, a six-hour, 200-question multiple-choice test, is administered as part of the bar exam in every state except Louisiana.

    The July 2015 results were also down 1.6 points from the previous year, to 139.9, its lowest point since 1988.”

    As many critics of “legal education” have pointed out, you can expect the cockroaches to dumb down the bar exam – to accommodate the law school pigs and morons with JDs. Take a quick look at this excrementitious news in Oklahoma. What could go wrong with this garbage “solution,” right?!?!


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