Sunday, May 29, 2016

Indiana Tech Issues Toilet Paper Law Degrees to Twenty Numbskull Graduates of Inaugural Class


http://www.nationaljurist.com/content/indiana-tech-celebrates-charter-class%E2%80%99s-graduation

Wipe Carefully: On May 23, 2016, the National Jurist published a Katie Thisdell piece that was entitled “Indiana Tech celebrates charter class’s graduation.” Here is the full text of that article:

“It was a GOOD week for the 20 graduates from Indiana Tech Law School who had faith in their school. 

The school’s inaugural class started with 27 students when it opened in 2013, but some left when the school failed to gain accreditation after two years. The remaining 20 students chose to stay despite the fact that they would be ineligible to take the bar exam if the school did not secure accreditation before they graduated. 

Indiana Tech received provisional accreditation this spring. 

“They’ve got to be better than just good lawyers,” andré douglas pond [c]ummings, associate dean for admissions and student affairs, told the Indiana Lawyer. “That’s how our reputation increases is when people that graduated from other law schools work with our law students and they see how competent they are, how ethical they are, how sort of well-ahead of the curve they are from the other law school graduates.” [Emphasis mine]

Would you mind telling us how graduates of a brand new stink pit are going to achieve that lofty goal, Pond Scummings? Which firms are even hiring Indiana TTTTTech JDs?! 

http://www.theindianalawyer.com/class-of-20-is-first-to-graduate-from-indiana-tech-law-school/PARAMS/article/40355

Prior Coverage: On May 16, 2016, Marilyn Odendahl’s article, “Class of 20 is first to graduate from Indiana Tech Law School,” appeared in the Indiana Lawyer. Check out this opening:

“The charter class of Indiana Tech Law School participated in commencement ceremonies Saturday, marking another milestone for the Fort Wayne institution. 

A total of 20 students walked across the stage inside the Allen County War Memorial Coliseum to receive their law degrees as part of the 95th commencement ceremony for the Indiana Institute of Technology. Dean Charles Cercone introduced the law school Class of 2016, saying the faculty was proud to award degrees to the charter class.

Originally 27 students matriculated when the law school opened in August 2013. Several students became academically ineligible to continue while a few left after the law school parted ways with its founding dean Peter Alexander and then failed to gain provisional accreditation in the spring of 2015. 

Indiana Tech Law School has since been able to secure provisional accreditation from the American Bar Association. The institution was notified it had received approval in March 2016, which enables the Class of 2016 to sit for the Indiana Bar Exam. 

After commencement, the graduates and their families gathered at the law school for a special reception. Associate dean for admissions and student affairs andré douglas pond cummings made some brief heartfelt remarks, recounting the school’s difficult journey to get accreditation and thanking the graduates for continuing their studies at Indiana Tech. 

The class will now begin studying for the bar exam that will be given in July. Many graduates are planning to return to Indiana Tech in about a week to take a bar preparation course.” [Emphasis mine]

Apparently, the commode didn’t have enough money to hold its own graduation ceremony. Then again, what the hell is the point when there are only 20 law degrees handed out? By the way, I'm sure the pigs were even prouder to cash those federal student loans.

http://outsidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.com/2016/05/gee-wally-thats-swell-indiana-tech.html

On May 15, 2016, “Old Guy” posted an OTLSS entry labeled “Gee, Wally, that’s swell: Indiana Tech produces graduates.” The entire article has an edge and features biting commentary, but enjoy the portion below:

“[Jerry] Mathers was eminently qualified to address Indiana Tech's graduating class of 2016. Presumably through parental connections and geographic circumstance, he stumbled into acting for the boob tube at age 2. Whatever that early gig was, he parlayed it into Leave It to Beaver, which ran until Wally and the Beaver were simply too old to carry on the boyish farce. Since then, he has done … well, nothing, really. According to the introduction given at the ceremony, he worked at a bank for a time and also sold real estate. He seems to have had a few minor acting gigs over the past 40 years or so. That's it. 

So why exactly was this actor manqué selected as keynote speaker? Well, the baby boomers who chose him must have looked with nostalgic admiration upon their childhood hero, even though most of the graduates probably hadn't heard of him. In addition, he must have been cheap. More prominent celebrities have exacted six-figure honoraria—too expensive for Indiana Tech, whose coffers have been depleted by a certain failed law school that shall go unnamed. And that is how Indiana Tech came to hire this flash in the pan. [Emphasis mine]

Conclusion: The commode doesn’t have an alumni base and it is only provisionally approved at this point. These poor fools are limited to the practice of toiletlaw  – if they pass the bar exam. What law firms are seeking to hire Indiana TTTTTech Law Sewer grads anyway? Perhaps, these dolts will try to start up their own practice – or simply return to their old line of work. Does anyone with a functioning brain stem think that any of these JDs will see a positive return on investment?! Well, at least they were able to support the “law professors” for three years.  Now, have fun repaying those NON-DISCHARGEABLE loans for the next 25-30 years.

40 comments:

  1. Nando, want to set the odds on what the bar passage rate will be for this inaugural class? My money is on a less than 30% pass rate.

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  2. Also, what are the odds that Indy Tech Lawl Skule will offer bribes, >ahem<, "stipends" to its 20 grads in exchange for sitting out on the July 2016 Indiana Bar Exam?

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  3. How many students did this class start out with? 27, 28, maybe more? I thought it was 28 tops. That means about 1/4, or 25% of them, left the school before they could graduate. I wonder who they were and why they did it.

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    1. "Several students became academically ineligible to continue while a few left after the law school parted ways with its founding dean Peter Alexander and then failed to gain provisional accreditation in the spring of 2015."

      Apparently some of the waterheads flunked out. I didn't think it was possible to fail out of college these days.

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    2. "Apparently some of the waterheads flunked out. I didn't think it was possible to fail out of college these days."

      Especially this one.

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    3. @Anonymous (8:27 AM)-
      Or maybe they heard and heeded the scamblogger wisdom of "cut your losses and run" - it's possible.

      Although I definitely agree about the likelihood (or not) of people flunking out of college, and being more likely to run out of money first. I'm sure the "fine institutions" of higher education themselves don't mind, as it only means more money for them [flowing into their already bulging pockets]...

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  4. Elle Woods should be the commencement speaker at one of these schools.

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  5. Jerry Mathers did have a memorable appearance in an episode of Married with Children.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haV5NBOaq_w

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  6. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingMay 29, 2016 at 10:09 PM

    You guys shouldn't throw shit at Indiana. After all, that is where Price Charles spent his Honeymoon.

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  7. So actually only 20 people collected a diploma from Indiana Tech Law Skule? An earlier report said 21. What accounts for the 5% error?

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  8. Here's a money making idea for the law school: Pay toilets.

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  9. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingMay 30, 2016 at 8:04 AM

    This Indiana Tech school, or whatever, is a breath of fresh air for the State. Let's look at Indiana Beach Amusement Park in Montecello, Indiana. It is emblematic of Indiana. I have been there. What a dump filled with Trump voters. Tatted up white shirtless guys dragging on cigarettes driving '96 LeSabres and Intrepids with airbags hanging out of the dash all eating all manner of fried shit and swilling Miller Lite. Lots of Miller Lite. There is a malodorous haze of smelly garbage, cigarette smoke, burning cooking oil, old beer and belching. You can shop at the gun boutique, leather boutique, sex shop, lougerie shop, pithy t-shirt shop, smoke shop, beer sign shop and motorcycle accessory shop. Tons and Tons of screaming unsupervised kids.

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  10. This shit ass school is the Touro of the midwest

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    1. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingMay 30, 2016 at 11:57 AM

      Touro is in the league of Marshall-Chicago, Valpo, NIU. Indiana dreck is a step below.

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  11. Because it has provisional ABA accreditation, its graduates can take the bar in any state.

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    1. And any bets on whether it gets its full accreditation from the ABA this year? I"d hope not, as history tells us that it's already been decided: IT gets its full ticket.

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  12. Crazy to go to any law school today let alone Indiana Tech.

    Just looked up a classmate who was an honors grad of a T4 and before that an honors grad of an Ivy undergrad. Now retired, this person lost their home in their 40s and is living in one after another rental dump. Moving every year or two. Owns a 20 year old car and nothing else.

    Not someone who became an alcoholic or had mental problems. Someone who went to elite schools from high school on. This relates to the lack of good jobs for middle aged and older lawyers, even from elite schools. This person was one of the most in demand law students in the elite law school class when it came to getting a summer job. Went to one of the most prestigious law firms in America.

    The problem is if you want to get a JOB, not be a solo, when you are 48 or older, there is no market, even with those top credentials. The in house jobs that often follow big law do not always last a lifetime. After that, there seem to be no employment opportunities for many lawyers, even if they have superb resumes.

    Hopefully, it is cheaper to live near Indiana Tech than where this lawyer lives, so these 20 lost souls who just graduated, or at least a few of them, will be able to have careers, or portions of careers.

    There is a big problem opening law schools and graduating 33,000 law grads a year today, when the legal job market is so age triangular. The system of relying on big law is a path to disaster today. The big law triangular hiring practices and eating up of profitable mid law means there are few good jobs left for lawyers with several years of experience or more.

    If a top law school and top undergrad is a path to financial ruin for many because of the lack of employment opportunities down the road, it has to be downright awful for most people who attended non-elite schools.

    People see that X person "made partner", a few times even with a modest law school in their background, and think the sky is the limit. They don't figure that the partner jobs are no longer permanent by any stretch. The partner job may last only until the deals die because the economy is no longer booming with deals.

    Making partner for five years and then what, is not a career. It is struggle. Same thing with going in house for five years, and then what.

    Law is an unstable profession. Even if you are up at some point in your career, you will almost always be dropped into a ditch.

    Even if you see people making it from your law school, you need to be skeptical. For how long, and what happens afterward?

    The law school scam lives on. It never dies.

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    1. what a sad story. Truth is that many high school teachers have higher salaries, ten years into their profession, than solo attorneys--plus job security and great benefits. Family health coverage for a solo attorney in the mid-Atlantic region is $12,000 year with a $6,000 annual deductible for EACH adult or kid. Net for the average solo is barely a lower-middle class lifestyle even with a working spouse... I know plumbers and electricians that make a heck of lot more.

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    2. Indiana Tech would be just fine if you have a GUARANTEED law job via family/connections lined up; as with any other non-prestige skool like this, all others beware. This generation of kids knows or should know the score by now. The scamblogs have been speaking the truth for some time. These garbage schools profit by the fact the feds are SOLD on the value of "higher education" and the student loan money tap continues to flow unabated.

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    3. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingJune 1, 2016 at 7:34 AM

      4:43 is spot on. My family has slipped into the lower middle class. Unbelievable. My neighbor, with a 2 year Associates and another with a HS diploma drive 50K pickups and have a nice, middle class existence. They have money in the bank. The schmoo lawyer, me, drives an '05 car with bad exhaust and the house is somewhat ramshackle. I bring in enough to cover our Obama Care and student loans. I am home today because I have no work.

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    4. Captain, I am truly sorry to hear this. It is not fair, and it is not right.

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  13. Hey Nando- if you don't mind me asking, were you going to do something like an "Open Letter to the Graduating Class of 2016" this year?

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  14. "Worked at a bank for a time and also sold real estate"?

    Um, why is a scamblog throwing down on THOSE jobs? That would be a PHENOMENAL outcome for most of the people who come here to complain. Except for the fact that it might require you to actually, you know, do some work from time to time.

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    1. You don't need close to a decade of post high school education for those jobs. They are fine if you start doing them at 18, 20, or 22 with no debt or manageable debt. If you have a law degree doing those jobs, you made a big, big mistake because, even if things work out, you wasted alot of time and alot of money on an assett that is at best extraneous and at worst detrimental to progressing in said jobs.

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    2. Mathers was not invited to give that speech on the strength of a bit of work in banking and real estate.

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  15. The 20 graduates just need to get out and hustle, and meet the right people. After law school, a job is not going to be thrown at you; you have to work for it. The dream crushers on this blog just didn't want to do the extra work!

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    1. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingJune 1, 2016 at 7:28 AM

      Correct. They will have to hustle. That worked for the up till 2006. The problem is that 1.6980 millions and multiplying every year are hustling just as hard for a limited share of work, fees and clients. Drive down Western Avenue in Chicago or any commercial arterial street and on every block you will come upon a store front law office. In the suburbs, there are scores of dilapidated "professional" buildings with multiple lawyers all hustling for a limited pool of elusive three bill DUI clients.

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    2. 11:39, what is your particular practice area? How do you define "hustle" when referring, presumably, to kids who have had no prior legal experience or mentoring? How does one "hustle" in that instance? What does "hustling" consist of for the totally inexperienced, un-mentored law grad?

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    3. Hustle probably means work for free or even pay for the privilege of working. Hah.

      You'd think the state bar would throw attorneys a bone like free CLE or waive registration fees for young attorneys/pro bono attorneys, but apparently the state bar does not believe in giving out handouts. Only demanding it from broke attorneys that can't fight back.

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    4. 11:39's post is simply attention seeking behavior from a person who has zero legal experience.

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  16. Ey yo Bruh don't be hatin on Indiana Tech, cuz. Y'all fixin to get capped fo dis sheeit. I dun gradiated n P Diddy axed me represent him in dis Hip Hop litigation shit I done learned @ tech. Don't be hatin cuz I boutsta get paid.

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  17. Here is the commode's press release from May 23, 2016. It is entitled "Indiana Tech Celebrates the First Graduating Class of Law School Students." Notice the brevity. They must be extremely proud!

    http://law.indianatech.edu/student/indiana-tech-celebrates-first-graduating-class-law-school-students/

    "Indiana Tech Law School welcomed its first class of alumni on Saturday, May 14th at the 95th Indiana Tech commencement ceremony. Twenty members of the inaugural Charter Class crossed the stage at the Allen County War Memorial Coliseum to be hooded and receive their degrees. An article in the The Indiana Lawyer, saluted the pioneering Charter Class and reported that Law School Dean Charles Cercone noted how proud the faculty was to award those J.D degrees to the inaugural graduates. After criticism and a long but successful road to provisional accreditation, students are celebrating for a moment before beginning preparation for the July bar exam.

    “They’ve got to be better than just good lawyers,” Associate Dean, andré douglas pond cummings said at the graduation celebration held later that day at the law school. “That’s how our reputation increases is when people that graduated from other law schools work with our law students and they see how competent they are, how ethical they are, how . . . well-ahead of the curve they are from the other law school graduates.” Being ahead of that curve should be a breeze for this charter class, who had the benefit of receiving their instruction from a nationally renowned faculty and Indiana Tech’s one-of-a-kind practice based experiential learning curriculum. Many will return to the law school for an intense summer of bar preparation courses leading up to July. The journey has just begun for these newly minted Juris Doctorate degree-holding students."

    How exactly are BRAND NEW graduates from the inaugural class of a toilet law school going to be ahead of their counterparts from established schools?! Even the TTTTs have alumni bases. Indiana Tech Law Sewer cannot call around to alumni to see about any law firm openings or internships. This is a sad situation for the students and newly minted JDs. Then again, they chose to ignore facts when they applied and enrolled in this dump.

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  18. Nando,

    Did you see where Burlington College and Dowling College both announced just in the last two weeks that they are closing?

    While neither has law schools, perhaps this is at least a sign that some educational organizations will cease to exist.

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    1. I forgot St. Catharine College (KY) is closing, too.

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  19. This is off the topic of those very special snowflakes from Indiana TTTTech. But it is related to what Nando has always said, that universities do not give one damn about their students. Over the past several years, Baylor University covered up sexual assaults and other violent crimes by members of the football team. The “Christian” school discouraged victims from coming forward and even retaliated in one case. These “educators” were willing to put student safety at risk to protect the millions of dollars rolling in from the football program. The scandal led to the firing of Ken Starr as university president, but he has a golden parachute. He will continue working as a constitutional law “professor” at Baylor School of Law. When it comes to law “professors,” this guy has a leg up on the rest. Ken Starr has a lot of experience in legally avoiding military service during the Vietnam War, examining crusty semen stained dresses, and covering up sexual assaults. He’s the perfect pig to rehash old arcane cases to special snowflakes at Baylor. Now that Ken Starr can focus more of his energy on the snowflakes in his ConLaw classes, I bet Baylor moves up a couple spots in the US “News” rankings.

    E-4 Mafia

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  20. New Website "Jammed Up" Allows Lawyers to Bid for Criminal Cases

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  21. On June 1, 2016, the Indiana Lawyer published a Marilyn Odendahl update labeled "Indiana Tech Law School graduates under pressure to be exemplary attorneys." Enjoy the following excerpt:

    http://www.theindianalawyer.com/indiana-tech-law-school-graduates-under-pressure-to-be-exemplary-attorneys/PARAMS/article/40472

    "Coming from a school that still raises doubts, the members of the charter class know they have more pressure on them than most law school graduates. Their credibility and the reputation of the Fort Wayne school relies on the graduates passing the bar exam and becoming exemplary attorneys.

    “They’ve got to go out and be great,” associate dean for admissions and student affairs andré douglas pond cummings said. “…They’ve got to be really smart about how they represent clients, how they are ethically, how they engage in interactions with other lawyers. They’ve got to be better than just good lawyers.”

    Bar exam preparation courses were scheduled to begin just days after graduation and the class has set a goal to have a 100 percent passage rate. Despite the task ahead, the graduates took time to celebrate their commencement.

    Before the morning ceremony at the Allen County War Memorial Coliseum began, members of the charter class assembled for a group photo in front of the graduation stage.

    Afterward, many returned to the law school with their families for a reception. During the light lunch, cummings recounted the triumphs and adversities of the past three years and the class presented the school with a grandfather clock as a gift. Several graduates thanked their professors and some even shed a few tears, underscoring the particularly close bond between the charter class and the faculty.

    Graduate Amy Thompson said the tight relationship bolstered the school’s curriculum that focuses on producing lawyers who are ready to practice. The law professors kept their office doors open so students could walk in anytime for help, and the classmates developed close friendships that trumped feelings of competitiveness and insecurity.

    “Knowing that we were a small school, I did expect that we would probably build relationships,” she said. “Never did I expect to build them as closely as we have.”

    See how well those relaTTTTTionships help you when your ass is looking for a job. While you may share a sense of sacrifice or accomplishment with this cohort, it will not result in meaningful connections. In the end, you will have an advanced garbage degree.

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    1. Of course they developed close relationships. The whole fucking class would fit inside a Volkswagen, with room to spare for Dougie Fresh's four lower-case names and a dozen copies of Lamparello's lascivious memoirs.

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  22. Good luck to the poor bums getting a job at a bottom tier institution without an alumni network in a state saturated with lawyers. Absent personal connections, solo practice or doc review seem like the only two realistic options.

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