Wednesday, June 22, 2016

Fourth Tier Explosive Diarrhea: Valparaiso University School of Law Once Again in National News

The Story: On June 17, 2016, the New York Times published a Noam Schieber piece that was entitled “An Expensive Law Degree and No Place to Use It.” Check out this splendid opening:

“By most measures, John Acosta is a law school success story. He graduated from Valparaiso University Law School — a well-established regional school here in northwestern Indiana — in the top third of his class this past December, a semester ahead of schedule. He passed the bar exam on his first try in February. 

Mr. Acosta, 39, is also a scrupulous networker who persuaded a former longtime prosecutor to join him in starting a defense and family law firm. A police officer for 11 years in Georgia, Mr. Acosta has a rare ability to get inside the head of a cop that should be of more than passing interest to would-be clients… 

Yet in financial terms, there is almost no way for Mr. Acosta to climb out of the crater he dug for himself in law school, when he borrowed over $200,000. The government will eventually forgive the loan — in 25 years — if he’s unable to repay it, as is likely on his small-town lawyer’s salary. But the Internal Revenue Service will probably treat the forgiven amount as income, leaving him what could easily be a $70,000 tax bill on the eve of retirement, and possibly much higher.

Mr. Acosta is just one of tens of thousands of recent law school graduates caught up in a broad transformation of the legal profession. While demand for other white-collar jobs has grown substantially since the start of the recession, law firms and corporations are finding they can make do with far fewer in-house lawyers than before, squeezing those just starting their careers.” [Emphasis mine]

Broke-ass, criminal defendant scum clients will not be able to appreciate Acosta’s background – at least not where it counts, i.e. with dollars. Now scroll down to this disgusting portion:

“Belatedly, many schools are starting to respond to this brutal reality, or at least the collapse in applications it has set off. In February, Valparaiso announced it was offering buyouts to tenured professors. As of May, 14 of 36 full-time faculty members had either accepted the package or retired. The law school plans to reduce its student body by roughly one-third over the next few years, from about 450 today. 

To the faculty at Valparaiso and the roughly 20 percent of the 200 or so American Bar Association-accredited law schools that have cut back aggressively in recent years, these moves can feel shockingly harsh. 

“Maybe I was na├»ve, but I didn’t think it would be as stark,” said Rosalie Levinson, a longtime constitutional law professor at Valparaiso who recently headed a committee on restructuring the school. “The number of tenured faculty that would be leaving — not gradually but immediately — just personally, that was difficult.” 

But from the perspective of the students caught up in the explosion of unrepayable law school debt, the shake-up at the school, and others like it, look rather pedestrian. 

Given the tectonic shifts in the legal landscape, the relevant issue may not be how much law schools like Valparaiso should shrink. Today the more important question is whether they should exist at all.” [Emphasis mine]

As you can see clearly, the law school pigs do not give one goddamn about YOU, the student or recent financial rape victim/graduate. Instead, their hearts bleed for their fellow swine who were given buyouts. What beacons of integrity, huh?!?!

Other Coverage: On June 17, 2016, Elie Mystal wrote an ATL entry that was labeled “Vivisection Of A Dying Law School.” Enjoy the following excerpt:

“The New York Times: Dealbook had a brilliant article yesterday, written by Noam Scheiber, called “An Expensive Law Degree, and No Place to Use It.” Don’t let the 2009-era headline fool you, this thing is actually a case study of one, totally screwed, lower tier law school. It’s jammed packed with personal anecdotes that put a human face on the tragedy of bad law schools. I encourage you to read the whole thing. 

The school is Valparaiso and… Jesus, the confluence of bad decisions is just amazing. Look at the first student profiled, a 39-year-old former cop who is trying to start a criminal defense practice.. 

Just marvel at the things that are wrong in those two paragraphs: 

* You don’t borrow $200,000 to go to Valparaiso Law. If somebody gave you $200,000 and you spent it on Valpo Law, you should be kicked in the nuts, daily. 
* You don’t borrow $200,000 to go to ANY law school, if your goal is to hang out a shingle as a criminal defense attorney. 
* You are not a “success story” if you can only crack the top third at freaking Valpo. Going to Valpo and finishing out of the top five percent means you failed. 

John Acosta had a good job and not $200,000 of debt, and he traded it for a Valparaiso Law Degree and the magic beans of hope. 

And Acosta isn’t in the worst shape. The article closes by profiling a woman who graduates in 2015 and now works at Meijer (Meijer is like K-Mart and Gristedes had a baby that grew up homeless in Flint) having failed the bar twice.” [Emphasis mine]

Acosta is in TERRIBLE financial shape. According to the NYT story, he managed to get engaged to another Valpo Law student – and they will have close to half a million dollars in debt. She also has a child to support. Yeah, law school was a great decision, right?!?!

Conclusion: In the final analysis, Valparai$o Univer$iTTTTy Sewer of Law is a FOURTH TIER TRASH PIT – as rated by US “News” & World Report. The jackals running that cesspit could not care less about you, the student or recent graduate. They saw an easy mark, and they enrolled your ass. I’m sure they told you that you were “special” throughout the application process and during OrienTTTTaTTTTion. Three years later, they dumped your corpse along the side of the road – and moved on to the next group of victims. After all, “professors” and deans need to make bank for pathetic amounts of “work” each week. You, the student, are a mere means to an end.


  1. Scary to say, but attending Trump University would have been a wiser decision.

  2. Law students do not understand that even if they are fortunate enough to land a job they will most likely hate the work. What we do on a day to day basis is not enjoyable. Also, practicing law is a terribly inefficient way to make money. Do something else with your life.

  3. In response to this article, several law school pigs have been squealing things like “million dollar degree,” “peer reviewed,” and other nonsense. These pigs are either too dumb to understand research or simply want to con more lemmings into attending their commodes. When researchers study the world, they form a hypothesis and they test the hypothesis. One way to test a hypothesis is through observation, like the squealing pigs did with their “million dollar degree” study. They looked at a sample of the population and assumed that because JD holders in their 40s, 50s, and 60s are earning a certain level of income, then recent/future JD graduates will eventually earn the same incomes when they reach those ages. The squealing pigs then added up the income they assumed recent/future JD graduates will eventually earn, and determined it equals a million more dollars than those with only a bachelor’s degree. Then the squealing pigs did something that all studies go through before publication, they had their results peer reviewed! The squealing pigs want the research to stop right there.

    But that’s not how this works. One study does not prove a hypothesis is true. The results of their study should be repeatable. And more in-depth studies should yield similar results. For instance, an economic study could be conducted to examine the productivity of JD holders vs. those with only a bachelor’s degree. Or a study could look at the demand for JD holders vs. those with only a bachelor’s degree. Those studies may be hard to do. So a simple survey could be done, asking employers for their attitudes toward JD holders. If a JD is a million dollar degree, employer surveys should reveal preferences and premiums for JD holders. These kinds of studies are done all the time. For example, studies have examined employer attitudes toward the disabled and felons.

    Want to know why the pigs aren’t going to build upon the “million dollar degree” study and investigate the subject more deeply? The reason is because they are afraid of what they will find out. Many peer reviewed studies have turned out to be wrong over the years. When it comes to honest academics, this is not a problem. Other researchers come along and discover a hypothesis is wrong. But the subsequent research provides more knowledge and understanding of the world. When it comes to the “academic” pigs working at law schools, they want the pursuit of knowledge to grind to a halt when it comes to the fate of their victims. If you questions them, they squeal “million dollars peer reviewed” repeatedly like a little child.

    But here is some recent data the squealing pigs are willfully ignoring. According to Georgetown Law’s “2016 Report on the State of the Legal Market,” demand growth for law firm services is flat and lawyer productivity declined. Legal staffing firms are sprouting up that provide lawyers on a part-time or short-term basis. That sure sounds like a lucrative career. Document review software using predictive coding based on a “seed sample” of documents is reducing the need for lawyers. And law firms are providing clients with “self-help” tools that allow clients to perform tasks that previously required active participation by firm lawyers. How will a lemming make a million extra dollars when demand for their services is declining? Or consider how the military values a JD. There are over 1 million people serving on active duty, making the military one of the largest employers in the country. The military offers specialty pay to medical officers, including physicians, nurses, dentists, veterinarians, physician assistants, and pharmacists. The military offers no specialty pay to attorneys and no specialty pay to officers with a JD. Isn’t it interesting that Congress and the military don’t see the need to offer specialty pay to JDs, who otherwise would leave to earn their million dollar premium? Or perhaps the “million dollar degree” study is hot garbage.

    E-4 Mafia

    1. E-4's cite that there are a million Soldiers serving on active duty is incorrect. The number is more like 440,000.

      The Army offers $60,000 for loan repayment, and if a JAG, after the first four years, signs on for an additional four, the JAG is entitled to a $40,000 bonus. However, during the second four years, the Army will send you to a place where no one wants to go.

      E-4 is right on only one level.

      The JAG Corps has a selection rate of less than 1.4% for all applications it receives, making it difficult, if not impossible, for many graduates from T-14, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Tier law schools to get JAG jobs. The Army used to conduct JAG Selection boards in the Spring and the Fall, but has eliminated the Spring board. Moreover, JAG interviewers (called Field Screening Officers) usually employ a process of exclusion, not inclusion. It is extremely subjective. Thus, a person who ranks in the top 5% of their class, is on law review and moot court, and voted most likely to succeed, can be excluded for minor reasons, and is indeed usually excluded for reasons that the applicant will never know. In the end, if you are thinking of going to law school with the attitude that if you do not get a firm job, you can always go military, think again. Recruiters are trained to screen out such people.

      In the end, law school right now is not a good idea.

    2. Actually, E-4 said there are 1 million on active duty, which would include all components, and that number is essentially correct, if a bit low(1.3 million):
      He's also right that there's no specialty pay for JAG. And any "bonus" requires an additional tour of duty.
      And what's the authority for your selection statistics? There's no blanket "JAG Corps" as each branch has its own JAG officers and selects its own JAG officers.

    3. Actually, E4 is right. There are just over 1 million on Active Duty in the US Military today. That counts all branches of service (Army, Navy, AF, Marines). Also, the Army does offer an incredibly generous offer to those already in. It's called FLEP. It allows Officer the chance to attend law school, as their assigned duty, and return once they graduate and pass the bar. The Army picks up the tab for law school AND pays you your full salary. Not a bad gig if you can get it. I'm currently stationed at the "five sided dream factory" (aka-the Pentagon) and will be starting a part-time JD program in a couple weeks. I'm using my GI bill and will have 0 debt following it. As for going JAG...hell no! Way too much of learning curve since I have 12+ years of active duty already and I really don't want to practice law for the Army. I'm getting my JD since the writing is on the wall: with all the military retirements in the next 6-17 years, you better have something other than a MBA or an online Masters if you want to be competitive in the civilian job market.

  4. Some people are beyond help. Here you have a woman who graduated from Valpo up to her eyeballs in debt, can’t pass the bar exam, and is working a bottom of the barrel retail job that you could get as a high school dropout. And she still wouldn’t trade her law degree for anything, just the debt. HEY DUMMY, the law degree is what caused the debt - there is no separating the two! Or as Elie Mystal noted, it’s like saying that you wouldn’t trade all the unprotected sex for anything, you would just trade the AIDS diagnosis.

    1. lol, the comment she made about separating debt from her law school "education" was never stated before by anyone else. it was soooo dumb that no one ever mentioned it (that i know of, after years of reading about LS shilling.)

  5. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingJune 22, 2016 at 1:54 PM

    Valpo is a breath of fresh intellectual air to the State of Indiana. I have traveled extensively around Indiana. It is dystopian, flat landscape filled with diabetes clinics, CVSs, Walmarts, Chick Fil A's, new jails (the one's with the green metal roofs), Pawn Shops, Title Maxs, Rent a Centers and used car lots with vintage 90s Saturns, Pontiacs, and Hyundais. Their governor closed down the remaining Planned Parenthood and STD rates have soared in the State. So, Nando, stop picking on Valpo.

  6. wow this bitch is retarded. she referenced Making a Murderer on Netflix. what a basic ass bitch. if i wrote for The Onion, I would've written the excerpt below:

    Ms. Tapia struggled her first semester at Valparaiso, but she said her grades steadily improved after that. After graduation, she took a bar prep class and threw herself into studying full time, undeterred by her “massive” debt load. When she found out she failed, she took a job in the clothing department of Meijer while she prepared to take the test again this past February. But not long before I showed up, she found out that she had failed that test, too.

    Ms. Tapia is a small woman with long brown hair who often looks down when she speaks. But it would be a mistake to confuse this with a lack of conviction. She urged me to watch the Netflix documentary series “Making a Murderer,” which raised questions about the murder conviction of a man named Steven Avery. “It’s exactly what I went to law school to do,” she said.

  7. See that disgusting picture of shit, kiddos? Good. That picture is better than your future as a TTTT grad. And here's why. 'Cause that shit in the toilet didn't cost you $200k in loans.

  8. We need to talk about Sarah Tapia:

    She's from a lower socio-economic bracket, went to a no-name college and picked a worthless major. She got into 2 law schools, both of them terrible. She also failed the bar twice. We can ascertain that she is a mediocre student, so just getting into law school probably felt like an accomplishment, with no need to press her luck for a good tuition discount.

    She grew up in a family with sibling who got into trouble with the law, and she blames their problems on the system... "because of money, because of race, they never got a fair chance at justice." So, she has that Social Justice Warrior personality that meant she wouldn't be deterred from going to law school by the lousy employment stats - There's more to life than money, man! - and after it blew up in her face, she still doesn't regret going to law school. She dislikes the debt, but doesn't think going to law school was a mistake. It'll be the fault of capitalism, or racism, or economic prejudice, but not going to a bad school.

    This girl was the absolute perfect mark for the law school scam, especially for toilet schools like Valpo. Now, she's a low-wage employee with tons of debt, and her life is ruined, but she doesn't see it and won't try to warn others of her missteps. Absolute, perfect, mark.

    1. Now you're getting to the heart of the matter. There's a huge psychological component to the Scam and it's now geared itself to exploit precisely these types.

      The predators adapted.

      It's no longer "join the whiteshoe boys profession". Now it's "join the profession and crusade for justice!"

      Nope, she doesn't see it and probably never will. Your assessment is dead-on.

      "She dislikes the debt, but doesn't think going to law school was a mistake. It'll be the fault of capitalism, or racism, or economic prejudice, but not going to a bad school."

      Bingo. And it simply feeds on the SJW ingrained programming at this point. The Russians - if you get a chance look for videos by this man - couldn't have come up with a more effective Psy-Op:

    2. You're correct-the scammers did indeed adapt. Valpo's website: entering class of 2015
      2015 Entering Class Profile

      Our 133 new students possess a wide range of life experiences, proven leadership and team skills. 44 (33%) are from groups underrepresented in the law and four are from other countries. Collectively, they attended undergraduate schools in 21 states, and are fluent in 16 languages other than English.

    3. Well, then we'll just need to adapt too.

  9. This is not a fair responce. Where is the accountability of the grown adults who are pursuing these law degrees?

    Are they not able to"

    - Crunch the numbers to determine the financial implications?

    - Use forsight to determine how their decisions today imact their future?

    - Perform due dilligance with ALL of the available data on the internet?

    - Relise that a law degree is a product, like going to walmart and choosing between --name brand and generic -- with various price points in between.

    - That law schools are a busines only to educate, nothing more, and the prodcut they are selling are JD's.

    I understand that the legal game has shiffted, but if the num nut mentioned in this article cannot do any of the above, then goies out an blames the world for his poor decision, then you should not want this type of guy as your lawyer.

    where is team AAMPLE when you need him??

    ps - had he gone to an HBCU he would not be in such of a financial pickel.

    etc. FAMU, is only 14k a year. Go figure!!!!

    1. 11:13, you're a scammer too-the OOS tuition for FAMU is $34,000-NOT the $14,000, which is for in-state only. And even FAMU's website lists another $27K in "fees".
      So why, 11:13, are you trying to intentionally mislead poeple?
      Go figure, indeed!

    2. Ah, Team AAMPLE, we missed you-although it's pretty strange that you're now referring to yourself in the third person.
      But once again, you completely miss the points made by previous posters:
      a. Most, if not all, of the debt is guaranteed by the taxpayers-as you spend most of the day watching reruns of "The Practice" not sure if this affects you, but here's the reality: the law schools get the $$$, the unemployed grads get the debt, and taxpayers are left holding the bag.
      b. For years, many law schools actively lied about job prospects, selling a professional degree for which there was no demand.
      c. And as scams go, it's a beauty-people in positions of authority-the deans/profs/admin-telling the uninformed that they will be earning a "million dollar degree". Of course there's no factual basis for this, but..
      d. And finally-AAMPLE is a proprietary program of a three private law schools, all of which charge more than $40,000 for tuition alone. So please explain how Team AAMPLE-you, in other words-can justify this?
      And please supply your contact information, as it's clear you're willing to cosign loans for any student wishing to attend a HBCU law school. It's time to put your money on the line since it's such a good idea.
      Remember as you sign those loans-hustle! network! reach for the stars!

    3. What is an HBCU? Is that some type of climate control or air handling unit?

      Anyway, NO, these are NOT "sophisticated consumers" able to effectively sift out these loser skools and make good choices as a result. No, instead these terlet skools prey on the very fact these low-LSAT types, who would have never been in the game in the old days, can't discern what a risk these shameless schools are. This is the same crowd that vill never pass a bar exam.

      FYI, FAMU is one of the hundred or so law skools that needs to be nailed shut, never again to blemish the academic landscape.


    Says it all. I tried to find the USN&WR ranking but I could not find it. Meaning, I assume, this school is otherwise unranked and costing ~$40,000 per year. Nice!

    Sure, there's a "way out".. Just watch the into to the old M.A.S.H. tv series.

    I didn't say it was the best way, or even a good way, out. But there is a way out.

  11. Mein Gott! These lower-tiered schools continue to create almost irreversible human disasters, and I'm only talking about the loan debt, let alone the human cost of misleading these unfortunate people into thinking they're making a good career choice. Egads. Something is very wrong with this "profession."


    "A Career Deferred

    A few hours after I spoke with Dean Lyon I drove about 75 miles east to a Meijer store in Goshen, Ind., where I met a 2015 Valparaiso Law School graduate named Sarah Tapia.

    As a child, Ms. Tapia had siblings who were in and out of jail. She decided in high school that she would become a lawyer to help people like them. “I kind of grew up with that my whole life,” she said. “Because of money, because of race, they never really got a fair chance at justice.”

    She attended Goshen College, where she studied history, and was admitted to two law schools: Valparaiso and a for-profit school in North Carolina, Charlotte School of Law, that won full American Bar Association accreditation only in 2011.

    Ms. Tapia struggled her first semester at Valparaiso, but she said her grades steadily improved after that. After graduation, she took a bar prep class and threw herself into studying full time, undeterred by her “massive” debt load. When she found out she failed, she took a job in the clothing department of Meijer while she prepared to take the test again this past February. But not long before I showed up, she found out that she had failed that test, too.

    Ms. Tapia is a small woman with long brown hair who often looks down when she speaks. But it would be a mistake to confuse this with a lack of conviction. She urged me to watch the Netflix documentary series “Making a Murderer,” which raised questions about the murder conviction of a man named Steven Avery. “It’s exactly what I went to law school to do,” she said.

    From the perspective of an admissions committee looking to take a chance on a high-risk applicant, Ms. Tapia must have presented a compelling case. She had already defied long odds by graduating from college. She had an obvious passion for the law.

    She had that unteachable impulse to succeed that Dean Lyon said she was looking for. Even today, with two strikes against her, she is determined to keep taking the bar exam until she passes it. There is no doubt in her mind that she will one day be a practicing lawyer, and she may well be right.

    Still, in the meantime, she has a crushing amount of debt and a job that doesn’t pay her enough to so much as dent it."

    When you attend a toilet law school, your future is limited from Day One. Biglaw firms and federal agencies don’t actively seek to hire TTT students. Plus, first semester grades are – by far – the most important. It doesn’t matter if your grades steadily improve after that point. Decent firms will not look at your ass, if you are not on law review. I suppose you can grind away to eventually working for a garbage law firm, making peanuts. However, what is the point of incurring an additional $130K+ in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt, for a chance to earn $45K per year?!?!

  13. I make 45K a year w/o a bachelor's degree!! You got played by the system!

  14. "She had that unteachable impulse to succeed that Dean Lyon said she was looking for. Even today, with two strikes against her, she is determined to keep taking the bar exam until she passes it. There is no doubt in her mind that she will one day be a practicing lawyer, and she may well be right."

    What a load of shit. What Dean Lyon was looking for was this mark's student loan dollars. An impulse to succeed? This woman needed to be protected from her impulses. That means she should never have been allowed anywhere near law school - even a shit pit like Valpo. Instead, she was taken advantage of and had her life destroyed. And even now, she's too dumb to realize it. What a pathetic story.


    On June 18, 2016, Paul Caron provided a list of online responses to the recent NYT piece regarding Valparaiso. The piece was entitled "Reactions To Yesterday's NY Times Article On The Human Cost Of The Law School Crisis." Check out the portion below:

    "Paul Campos (Colorado), End Game:

    Over the last few years, all but a handful of the most elite law schools have had to engage in some combination of reducing class size, cutting admission standards, and cutting effective tuition (sticker minus discounts). Valpo has done all three. The school cut admissions standards drastically three years ago, with its median LSAT dropping from the school’s historical 150 range to an astonishing 143. The last two entering classes have compiled 50th/25th LSAT percentiles of 145/142 and 145/141. These scores all but guarantee that the school will be unable to come anywhere close to meeting the new ABA requirement that 75% of a school’s graduates who take the bar pass it within two years of graduation. ...

    I emphasized to Scheiber that Valpo’s historical journey from a modest but respectable regional law school that didn’t cost much to attend to an institution with something resembling Harvard Law School’s financial structure (minus HLS’s two billion dollar endowment of course) is a completely standard one in the context of American legal education. ...

    Here’s the average tuition at private ABA law schools over time: (All figures have been adjusted to constant 2016 dollars):

    1956: $4,178
    1974: $11,232
    1985: $16,803
    1995: $26,480
    2005: $35,550
    2015: $45,123"

    If you are still considering attending a cesspool such as Valparai$o Univer$iTTTTy Sewer of Law, then you should be committed to a mental institution. Give up the dream of becoming a successful lawyer, dumbass. Here is a more productive use of your free time: go finish your coloring book.


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