Tuesday, September 6, 2016

For the JD Class of 2015, NALP Reports That Private Practice Jobs Were at Lowest Point Since 1996


The News: On August 17, 2016, the Wall Street Journal Law Journal published a Sara Randazzo piece entitled “Law School Graduates Findings Fewer Private Practice Jobs.” Enjoy this stellar opening:

“The number of law school graduates entering private practice after getting their degrees has shrunk to the lowest level in nearly two decades, according to a new report.

The overall employment rate for the class of 2015 has rebounded somewhat from a post-recession plunge. But not since 1996 have so few graduates secured jobs in private practice, according to the National Association for Law Placement’s 2015 employment survey released Wednesday.

Among the roughly 40,000 students who graduated last year, 17,168 landed private-practice jobs, NALP’s report found.

Another 9,829 graduates were clerking for judges or were employed either in government, the public-interest sector or academia. And another 5,769 graduates got business jobs. 

“I was surprised to see that the private practice number was so low,” NALP’s executive director, James Leipold, said in the report. “You have to go back to 1996 to find a comparably small number of private practice jobs.”

Mr. Leipold called the entry-level market “remarkably flat by almost every measure” and noted that many new graduates have to compete with lawyers already in the market for jobs as the number of positions set aside for entry-level hires shrinks. 

At 86.7%, the class of 2015 employment rate didn’t change from the year before. That figure is two percentage points higher than in 2012 but more than five percentage points lower than the class of 2007. The more stable rate figure reflects a steep drop in overall law school enrollment[.]” [Emphasis mine]

Still want to take the law school plunge, waterhead?!?! These private practice jobs also include solo practices and firms with 2-10 lawyers, which typically feature high stress, instability, and low pay.


Other Coverage: On August 17, the New York Times DealBook posted an Elizabeth Olson contribution, which was labeled "2015 Law School Graduates Got Fewer Jobs in Private Practice."  Review the following excerpt:

“Last year’s law school graduates landed fewer jobs in private practice than any class in the last two decades, according to the National Association for Law Placement, which tracks developments in the legal profession. 

“You have to go back to 1996 to find a comparably small number of private practice jobs,” said James G. Leipold, the association’s executive director. Private practice includes firms of any size as well as solo practitioners. 

In 2007, there were 37,123 such jobs, the association found, compared with 33,469 last year, according to the report, “Employment for the Class of 2015 – Selected Findings.” 

The number of such jobs for newly credentialed lawyers probably shrank, Mr. Leipold said, because graduates are competing “with other junior lawyers for most jobs other than entry-level associate positions at large law firms, some judicial clerkships and some government honors programs.” 

And there is little change in sight, he said, because law firms of every size will face a smaller head count “in the coming years and even decades” as law firms incorporate “growing efficiencies created by technology and business systems and increased competition from nontraditional legal services providers.” [Emphasis mine]

Did you get that, mental midgets?!?! Or do you need Big Bird and Elmo to break this stuff down for you, right before they give you the letter of the day?


One Important Distinction: Let’s go to the organization’s report, Employment for the Class of 2015 – Selected Findings. Consume this nugget, courtesy of Judith N. Collins, director of research at NALP:

“With the Class of 2014, NALP began measuring the employment rate of law graduates as of March 15, or ten months after a typical May graduation. Previously employment status had been measured as of February 15, an important distinction when making comparisons with employment rates prior to 2014.” [Emphasis mine]

This means that the “unchanged” employment rate for JD classes in 2014 and 2015, was due to the fact that the latest class covered had an extra month. Remember, the law school pigs lobbied for this added time. While you, as a lemming, may “think” that this is not significant, you are dead wrong. Many grads will take a job out of desperation, within that additional 30 days. Also, your significant other may leave your ass if you go another month without contributing to the household.

Conclusion: This is a public service announcement for those still considering law school. Pretty much the only guarantee that you have by attending a “legal education” program is that you will accrue outrageous sums of NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt. Avoid financial ruin, and stick to your current job. While you’re at it, make sure not to stick your hand in a lion’s mouth either. It’s also not a good idea to do any of the following: pick up a cub in front of its mother, stick a fork in a power socket, or make a run at an unrestrained, ferocious dog.


  1. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingSeptember 6, 2016 at 6:44 AM

    One attorney I know who graduated in 1983 from a T-1 school and law review has been unemployed now for two years. He is a top litigator. He tells me his travails each night. Even for a 50K PD job, there are hundreds of applicants for EACH position. In Illinois, there are 98,000 lawyers in Illinois. There are 95,954 people working in or for new car dealerships in Illinois. Nearly every adult in Illinois owns a car or two and will purchase several throughout their life times. All of those cars will need servicing from time to time. How often does the law abiding adult need an attorney? Not much.

  2. This post is not accurate. If you attend Seton Hall LS part time you and land on the good half of the stats you will have it made!


    - Decent Salary
    - JD holder, = lots of legal knowledge
    - Marketable legal skills
    - Ability to hang own shingle
    - Be your own boss

    The legal field has been in transition over the years, but it is still possible to make a good career.

    So what big law is not an option. Being a lawyer and helping fellow citizens with your expanded legal knowledge, not to forget you ability to think outside the box, will help you land on your feet.

    I know, some d-Bags say "I was only able to pull down $29k on My schedule C last year". To these guys, STOP WHINING .... TRY HARDER !!!!

    Salute to mt fellow T4 grads, who are there making it happen, not taking no for an answer, and are moving mountains!

    P.S. - The LSAT is an artificial barrier that needs to be abolished !!! Your score will have very little impact on how good of a lawyer you will become!

    You get out of life, what you put in, and do not let anyone stop you from your dreams !

    1. Try harder means what? What if those in your network are in the same position? Struggling. What do you suggest? Poaching, Hallway hustling, ambulance chasing, going to the hospitals, soliciting? We aren't sales people---"Always Be Closing." There are Professional Rules and reputations only so much one can do unless you want your Ticket pulled. Check out all of the newbie Solos with less than 5 years experience who have picked up Bar Beefs.

    2. AAMPLE doofus is back-so two questions:
      1. Have you visited your unlicensed dentist yet?
      2. When are you going to start co-signing student loans?

      It's good to see that you don't quote TV characters anymore, but you posts are still inane and uninformed. And please, stop pretending you're a lawyer, because that's just...well, pretending.
      First, why you are fixated on Seton Hall is puzzling-and the esteemed SH would not appreciate being lumped into your "Salute to mt(sic) fellow T4 grads" but here's the key point: per SH's website, COA annually is $74,584.00 for an independent student. So an independent SH grad is looking at a cool quarter million dollar debt upon graduation.
      But you don't care, and have no interest in being confused with the facts.
      Glad to see you're still milking the cliches, though.
      But read 10:27's post carefully, as it mentions a very important point: regulation counsel going after solo/small practitioners engaged in desperation tactics to get work. Go to any state bar and read the published opinions-as s/he points out, following your advice leads in only one direction-disaster.

    3. @646,

      Try harder?

      More like TROLL harder. Bro.

      I don't see how anyone on this site could fail to see through your blatant, 2x4-upside-the-head-it's-so-obvious. Are you writing the outraged responses as well, possibly?

  3. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingSeptember 6, 2016 at 6:50 AM

    One more thing. Solo practice for a newbie is functional unemployment if you have zero connections, unstable income, no experience or just a few people to throw you a traffic matter here and there because they feel sorry for that kid. And don't think a big PI referral is in the cards. Those are like the lotto....Folks are not going to go to a newbie like you.

    1. Solo practice for anyone who is over 40 and does not have a spousal partner with a substantial and steady income is a disaster. I am in my mid-50s and have seen a friend or acquaintance in my cohort become unemployed about every month. Many toy with the idea of solo practice but when they've tried it, it's always an unqualified disaster. Solo practice income is usually the equivalent of a "hobby loss."

    2. Spot on at 1:02. My CPA told me a few months that I practice for a year just to loose 7K. Not good friends, not good.

  4. "Or do you need Big Bird and Elmo to break this stuff down for you, right before they give you the letter of the day?"

    I understand Taylor Swift (mental age 13) is the preferred role model nowadays.

  5. You also need to go back more than 13 years to find any increase in overall jobs in the legal sector (only a third of those jobs are lawyer jobs) versus the number of legal jobs today.

    See for yourself. Google jobs report. Go to the bottom of the page and look at the first table under Table B. Open it and search for legal.

    Then look for historical jobs report. You can pick any year. January of 2003 has about the same number of legal jobs as now. No growth in 13 years.

    This shows you that the lawyers coming in have to push out lawyers already working for there to be jobs.

    Today a quarter of people over age 65 are projected as trying to work because they have to work. Most lawyers aren't rushing to retire after having their incomes severely clipped in an oversaturated market for legal services.

    There you have it. No growth in law firm jobs. New lawyers pushing out existing lawyers. Only fools rush into this .

    1. Nailed it.

      This, btw, is how "Biglaw" firms continue with the illusion of growth. They do indeed hire start classes every year. What they don't tell you is that some 3rd-8th yr. Associate just got kicked to the curb so that there's room for them.

      The firm can bill them out at almost the same rate and pocket more money for itself.

      That is the business world today, especially with law.

      Everything is a lie.

      Oh and.. "network".

      If people just "networked" harder, there would be no unemployed / under-employed lawyers. (sarc).

  6. Unfair Nanado!

    I reject the fact that you and your fellow cronies classify T4 grads less
    caliber than grads from T1 grads (ok... inside top 10 schools .. understood).

    Its just hard to accept your position when all law students, from all tier schools, use the same text books,
    same canned briefs, same Socratic method of learning, and same study material to achieve the goal of graduating-- ALL ACROSS THE NATION!!
    From Boston College down to FAMU law school.( and all 100 + law schools in between).

    Then WE ALL DOUBLE DOWN ON BAR BRI to pass the bar! Cant you agree that this is like a re-cap of (core classes) of law school but in a canned experienced. (minus useless electives that do not appear on the bar) ???

    This is why people in the state of California are able to by pass law school -- take the baby bar -- then "Read the LAW" (and... wait for it... yeah....use Bar/Bri to pass the bar).

    Do the research. Abraham Lincoln ...yeah you should know him...was a lawyer and never stepped foot in a law school.

    Tuition is out of line with the market realities, but you have to admit... some of you guys are suckers... you should have questioned the legal teaching system, and did your research on the past.

    NY - Only need one year of law school to sit for the bar (wait for it... Bar/Bri to re-cap (all core subjects) and pass the bar).

    multiple other states have alternative solutions to the LSAT, and the Bar. YOU hold these two elements so dear, but admit, even passing them both on high levels, a person with 1. A HIGH LSAT...2. PASSING THE BAR...still cannot "Practice Law", even with the tuns of tuition spent! (standingg on the education alone.....you would need to find a mentor of some sort...but for $100K I would expect a better ROI) So in the end the two elements mean nothing!


    These challenging times call for a re-engineering of Law studies as we have known it. Look to the IT field... the answers and fundamentals lie there .

    1. So, why didn't you pick a better school? The same reason one buys a Chevy Aveo, Mitsubishi Mirage and a few years ago, a Yugo. They were desperate for a new car and couldn't afford better. You were desperate to be an attorney and couldn't get into a better ranked school. You went to a Yugo quality school. Everybody in the profession knows it.

    2. 4:58 has a point. After $100k of tuition and you do not come out "Practice Ready".

      This doesnt happen in the medical school system. Nor Dental.

      Thats not a good ROI.

    3. Again, more drivel from AAMPLE doofus. A suggestion: invest in spellcheck.

      And you seem to be missing Nando's point: he is looking at the present, and to the future, and advising prospective applicants to think long and hard BEFORE attending law school(take a look at the objective in the right column).
      And if you want to extinguish the LSAT/Bar exam, have at it. But you consistently refuse to recognize one rock-solid reality-there are too many lawyers for the market to support, period.

  7. NALP says what now? For years they were saying the lawyer job market was gonna pick up to where it was before.

    1. It is where it was before...in the gilded age where financially successful lawyers most often came from resource-rich environments.

  8. This should put to all of the articles by the scam deans who postulate that since the U.S. population is increasing the number of private sector legal jobs will naturally increase. That is, these scam deans assume that the percentage of jobs to population is fixed. It is not. The percentage is decreasing, and while I have no data, I believe it will decrease at an increasing rate, due to increased automation, outsourcing, use of para-professionals, etc. etc.

    P.S. Can any find out how many newly minted MDs, RNs, Engineers, police academy graduates, or educators/teachers found jobs?

    1. I can provide some info about newly minted MDs.

      But the issue with newly minted MDs is that they have to complete a residency program after medical school before they can practice medicine. I can’t find any data on the number of residency graduates who found jobs. That data is more difficult for medical schools to collect, because residencies vary in length depending on the specialty. Also, graduates can choose to further specialize by entering a fellowship that can also last a few years.

      But there is data on the number of MD graduates who matched into residencies. In 2016, 93.8% of U.S. seniors matched into a residency. These residency programs pay about $50k with increases for each year in the program. It is worth noting that there are more residency slots than U.S. MD graduates each year. The remainder of the slots are filled by foreign medical school graduates and DO graduates applying for the allopathic residencies rather than the osteopathic residencies. As for the 6.2% of U.S. MD grads who did not match, a common reason is that the student only applied to very competitive residency programs. But some medical schools are now offering to pay graduates the interest on their student loans for one year if they fail to match into a residency.

      We can get an idea of the job outlook for residency graduates from other sources. According to the BLS, employment of physicians and surgeons is projected to grow much faster than the average for all occupations. Job growth is projected due to increased demand for healthcare services by the growing and aging population. Another indicator of the job market are the perks. Many states offer scholarships with stipends to medical students that agree to enter primary care and work in an underserved area for a period of time. Also, many health care groups offer bonuses and student loan repayment to recruit physicians. There is salary data available from national surveys that is provided to medical students. For instance, the average starting salary of a family practice doctor is $165,000. The average starting salary for specialists is considerably higher.

      So we can infer that newly minted MDs are doing very well. I remember someone who regularly contributes to this blog mentioning their son was a medical student or resident. They may be able to provide more info.

    2. That would be me.

      First son-radiology resident, now in year 3, $65,000 salary. (For those of you not familiar, a resident is a medical school graduate, but not an attending physician and can’t practice medicine on their own. Us JD grads who pass the bar immediately after graduation, can practice. MD’s have residencies-apprenticeships of 3 to 565 years.) Two more years of residency, he will be earning about $70,000 to $71,000 in year 5. One year of fellowship will be a pay cut of about $8,000.

      Then starting salary will be somewhere between $250,000 and $320,000. Not lifetime earnings-annually. About 3 times what I earn after 39 years of law practice.

      (They do have A LOT more to learn than us mere attorneys. Did I mention, mucho grande A LOT?!!! Law school is far behind accountants and actuaries, engineers and probably everyone else, and certainly veterinarians, dentists, and physicians in difficulty, complexity, and volume of material.)

      I have never understood how the law schools and law professors were held to such high levels of prestige in academia, when the curriculum is really rather "light."

      What makes legal education "hard" (read horribly inefficient) is the Socratic method. Like baseball, 2 hours of excitement packed into 6 hours.

      The “sacred principals” taught by the Socratic method could be dramatically boiled down to a semester or two, to allow time to teach useful things. The Socratic method is resorted to in my opinion as the primary teaching method to spread out 1 or 2 semesters of material into three years, thereby increasing the cost to students. All the while neglecting teaching other material necessary to practice law.

      (As an aside, when a colleague mentioned a particularly vexing legal case he had, I told him he should research the principal of “ejusdem generis.” I didn’t learn that from any professor. Just came across it. Don’t know what it is? Look it up. My colleague asked me three times over the phone, to explain it, and then, “are you sure?” “Absolutely.” I was right and it saved the day.)

      I believe that law schools lean heavily on the Socratic method for several reasons.

      1. The teaching burden on law professors is dramatically reduced if they only have to take their 30 year old lecture notes and grind through the same old questions. It is EASY to ask questions without having to provide answers. Not having to lecture, explain, AND BE RIGHT. (I taught real estate law for 10 years or so at a junior college to real estate license candidates, and I filled my lectures with useful tips and pointers.)

      2. Law professors, (anecdotal, just guessing) don’t have the real world practice experience to actually teach how to practice law. (Now some in my law school had practiced, but in Big Law, and not in the areas 80% of all lawyers practice. Why hire some unblessed, common folk who is a fine small law practitioner to teach in a prestigious law school that only hires academically qualified or Big Law qualified folks.)

      3. Law schools want “name” professors. The unblessed who are experienced practitioners and teach legal practice well, are not welcome. “Cold mashed potatoes.” (There may be a latin equivalent-but I don’t know it.)

    3. I have mentioned this before, but for those of you who are new to the party:

      A. When you are headed into surgery, you would hope that your surgeon’s medical school did not teach your surgeon by the Socratic method and actually required your surgeon to CUT something, before cutting you. Law schools do not require law students to draft a Will, Motion (there be hundreds if not thousands of them), Complaint, Release, Answer, ordinance, statute, board policy, condominium restrictions, opinion, memorandum of law, trial book, chronology, letters (thousands to millions of them), client guidance documents, and so on…corporate minute books, real estate contracts, easements, leases, subpoenas, summonses, court orders, oh, and so many more…

      B. What is the aversion of law schools to teach practice ready skills? I believe it is that it will turn law schools into “trade schools” and the prestige of professor’s positions will thereby be diminished. Along with their incomes. So law students can pay, and pay, and pay, merely to support their egos. Look at the number of law students who become law professors upon graduation on the basis of their grades. What the Hell is anyone thinking? I would propose that in NO OTHER PROFESSION are fresh graduates promoted to professorial status based on grades.

      C. Medical professors do not have the burden of having to hype their prestige, as their field is extremely complex, and if practical medicine, like cutting patients, is taught, it does not diminish the prestige of the medical school. I believe that the law schools and law professors have perpetrated a gigantic shell game fraud. “We don’t have much to sell, so we will restrict our teaching to “sacred principals” and thereby hoist ourselves upon the altar of the law, and thereby be revered, and charge accordingly.”

      I have reflected on my legal education, my career, my preparedness for practice, and my job prospects and marketability for 39 years now.

      I graduated in the top 25% of a top 22 ranked school. I graduated undergad in 3.5 years and law school in 2.5 years with summer school time. The job market was horrible when I graduated law school. Took me 2 years to find a job with a respectable firm. My youngest sister started at a Fortune 50 corporation at $22,000 a year with full benefits. She had a 4 year computer science degree. I started work after a 2 year search at $14,000, with no benefits and 7 years (actually 6 due to taking 18 credit hours a semester) of college. She is 7 years younger than me.

      I knew then that I had made a life-long strategic mistake. And that I would suffer until I quit.

      I graduated law school with $1,500 in debt with a monthly payment of $32.92 per month.

      My law school tuition was $1,100 per YEAR. Yep.

      My father, a mechanical engineer at the same Fortune 50 corporation was earning $35,000 per year at that time and was in the top 1/4 of 1% of wage earners in the country. (My mother told me this-she had a Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics from the University of Wisconsin-she was Salutatorian of her high school class and was much smarter than me.)

      My second son, attended a private university in our town, and we were paying $23,000 a year in tuition.

    4. Now, get this:

      For me to have kept EVEN with my dad in the tuition game, in paying my law school tuition, I would need to earn $731,818 per year with respect to my second son.

      Rest assured, good readers, were I making that, I would not be here espousing the cruelty of the law school scam, and were I able to do that for 2 years running, I could retire.

      I would never be a lawyer, were I able to start over.

      (Don’t put me in the category of “disgruntled.” One year, I paid nearly a quarter million in income tax due to a case on which my share of the fee triggered that tax. Sounds great? Well, that fee added about $10,000 per year to my overall average annual income, so that year was great, but it only happened once. I have a nice house, but still struggle to pay my bills from month to month, and I am very busy and well respected.)

      Remember, it is your hands which put the noose of law school around your own neck.

      I wish I had not done it to mine.

      39 year solo

    5. And the core of my 39 years of observation, and heart-felt "wisdom" draws not a single comment.

      It depresses me that each Fall, thousands matriculate at law schools, nearly all substandard. I wouldn't enroll in MY law school and it was in the top 24 when I attended law school.

      And my radiology son sent me an email today of job openings for radiologists-totally unsolicited.

      $450,000 to $500,000 starting salary. This is for the typical radiologist. And NO law grads start anywhere that level. And virtually none EVER attain that income.

      When mothers speak of their daughters marrying doctors or lawyers….. There is about $350,000 in annual income difference between the two.

      So, let’s talk real world. I had a client, marrying a physician. The physician had experienced a brutal divorce. My client had nothing but love in the eyes and was willing to marry with no prospect of inheritance. The physician had a few children by the physician’s first marriage.

      The physician’s attorney sent me a draft of the premarital agreement. I redrafted it entirely as it was a work of confusion (and total incompetence). At the signing in my office, the physician looked at me and asked if the physician could take the executed originals to the physician’s office and make copies so that the physician’s fiancé would not have to pay me for copies.

      (Assholes treat experts in this fashion. It is a clue that you should show them NO MERCY.)

      No, copies will be made here, at about a cost of $4.00. (Can you afford that? You will have the answer below.)

    6. Part 2

      About a year later the physician called ME (not the physician’s attorney-strange), wondering if I would do premarital agreements for the physician’s two children. The physician advised that the physician’s estate was about $10,000,000. The physician makes about $425,000 per year. (Remember the photocopy insult? Well, it is not over.)

      The physician informed me that the physician was not willing to pay more than $4,000 for the premarital agreements.

      The next day, the physician called and said that the physician had assembled the documents that would be needed to prepare the premarital agreements and wanted to get them to me.

      I advised the physician that I was unwilling to draft the documents.

      I explained that I would prepare one premarital agreement and use that as the model for the other, so that if I made a mistake on the first, it would be replicated on the second, thereby exposing me to a $10,000,000 liability.

      The physician said, well, I have lots of exposure as a physician, and I should “step up” to the plate.

      I said, “Doctor, lawyering is not doctoring.”

      I kindly advised that jumping my malpractice coverage from its current level to $10,000,000 would exceed the proposed fee for the initial year by about 50%, and I would need to pay that amount or more until I retired, and then pay a fee for tail insurance.

      In plain English, my malpractice insurance would jump from about $1,100 to $6,000 a year, and ever after until retirement.

      To undertake the work the physician proposed, I would lose money in the first year by some small thousands, and thereafter by many thousands a year. Why would I?

      The physician said (what level of dumb) that I handled the premarital agreement when the physician was about to marry his fiancé, my client and the physician’s assets were the same.

      “Doctor, but you must recognize that your fiancé was to receive nothing, and me, having redrafted the entire agreement proposed by your attorney (who made NO OBJECTION to any of my drastic, hatchet-job changes) and IF I MADE A MISTAKE, my client, the fiancé will send me a very thoughtful and appreciative Christmas card, as my mistake, has made your fiancé wealthy. So, where is my risk?

      “I understand.”

      I would not have worked for this physician at any price and was glad to cut ties.

      Who would you recommend to do this?” “Well, A, or B.” “How about my prior attorney, a good friend of mine?” “I don’t know in which areas your prior attorney practices, but A, or B.”

      My compliments to the Captain, and the law schools of Illinois, one of which I am familiar.

      39 year solo

  9. The NALP data is not surprising when you look at the objective data put out by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. The GDP by industry data, also known as value added, paints a bleak picture. In 1997, the real value added for the legal services sector was $191,860,000. But in 2015, the real value added was down to $181,493,000. This is not surprising, because real value added declined in 2005, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, and 2014. The real value added numbers are in 2009 dollars in order to exclude inflation.

    The law school pigs want you to believe that the decline in the legal industry was simply due to macroeconomic problems caused by the great recession. It is no surprise that pigs working in intellectual ghettos known as law schools would put out such trash. When the legal industry is compared to other industries, we see that the legal industry is not simply being dragged down by a bad economy. For instance, compare legal services to manufacturing, a sector that has taken a hit due to outsourcing. Manufacturing real value added increased from $1,365,087,000 in 1997 to $1,911,108,000 in 2015. Or compare the legal services sector to the finance and insurance sector. Like law, finance took a beating during the great recession. Nevertheless, finance and insurance real value added increased from $582,405,000 in 1997 to $1,030,685,000 in 2015. We could also compare the legal services sector to other professional sectors, like health care. As expected, the health care and social assistance sector grew from $750,454,000 in 1997 to $1,180,373,000 in 2015. So the legal industry is not suffering because of macroeconomic problems. Rather, the legal industry is suffering because of microeconomic problems, namely a contraction in demand for legal services. It’s not surprising at all that the decline in demand for legal services has led to a decline in the number of private practice jobs.

    While the demand for legal services declined over the last decade and a half, the number of law schools and law graduates dramatically increased. During the 1997-1998 academic year, there were 125,886 students enrolled in JD programs. By the 2010-2011 academic year, that number had jumped to 147,525. So in stark contrast to the nonsense squealed by the law school pigs, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reports that competition for lawyer jobs should continue to be strong because more students graduate from law school each year than there are jobs available.

    Now that you have seen the objective government data, consider the anecdotal evidence. Many bloggers and commenters have written about their struggles obtaining employment or making a living in the legal sector. In fact, many people have testified to the fact that the law schools were lying about employment outcomes years before the great recession. You don’t fix this problem by “hustling,” moving to Nebraska, or attending one of the new toilet law schools promising “innovative” practice ready education. You avoid this problem altogether and do something better with your life.

    On a side note, we have seen the pigs try to desperately keep their toilets afloat by squealing a JD is worth ONE MILLION DOLLARS and other nonsense about an imminent turnaround in hiring. My old toilet has decided to go retro. They prominently feature a claim on their website, in massive font, that 89% of graduates are employed 9 months after graduation. My old toilet uses this stat to proclaim they are producing leaders in the legal world! Of course a disclaimer is made in small font advising applicants to visit the career services page for full employment data. My toilet doesn’t like to highlight that a majority of those jobs were non legal employment, short term, and part time. Hell, several desperate grads were working in “non-professional” jobs, meaning they are serving coffee at the local Starbucks.

  10. To be fair, let's admit that the number of graduates has also dropped sharply in the past few years.

  11. On August 18, 2016, Greedy Associates posted an entry, from Jonathan R. Tung, which was labeled "New Lawyers Are Finding Fewer Private Practice Jobs." Enjoy the following portion of that article:

    "If you’re a recent grad and are having trouble landing that private law job, you’re in good company — or least you have company.

    According to a new report from the National Association of Law Placement, private law placement of law grads is the poorest it has been since 1996.

    The NALP Study Findings

    According to the NALP study numbers, of the 40,000 law grads minted last year, only about 17,000 secured employment in private practice. Another 10,000-ish of those were clerking for judges, working for the government, public interest, or in academia. A little under 6,000 decided to forgo law entirely and shoot for business.

    So, about 40 percent of law grads went into private practice. Doesn’t sound that bad, but in actuality, the number has as much to do with the plummeting number of applicants as it does the economy. Still, James Leipold, NALP’s executive director, said that he was surprised to see the private law placements so low. “You have to go back to 1996 to find a comparably small number of private practice jobs.”

    Trying Times to Be Tryin’

    It’s difficult to determine whether the decrease is due primarily to employers’ reticence to employ new grads, or to other factors. One of the most intuitive lines of reasoning probably has to do with the ample supply of already experienced attorneys getting those jobs that had previously been available to law grads. According to the Wall Street Journal, Mr. Leipold himself considered this line of thinking. It looks like the economy really hasn’t been kind to the profession.

    Still, the report seems to indicate some bright spots. Overall, the number of openings at BigLaw firms is on the rise. Also, median salary ranges are higher depending on which sub-group one examines. But of course, a rising tide does not raise all ships in this context."

    If you attend an ABA-accredited trash heap, you have no shot in hell of landing one of the relative few Biglaw posts. Of course, this does not prevent the TTT pigs from charging outrageous tuition.

  12. http://www.azfamily.com/story/33062086/asus-law-school-has-largest-class-ever-with-400-students

    Meanwhile, idiots continue to take the plunge. Check out this local news story from September 9, 2016. It is entitled "ASU's law school has largest class ever with 400 students." Here is the full text below:

    "Arizona State University officials say its Sandra Day O'Connor College of Law has its largest class ever with 400 students.

    They say Juris Doctor candidates comprise 230 of the students with various master's-level programs accounting for the rest.

    The candidates come from 97 undergraduate universities, 39 states and four countries.

    Their undergraduate degrees come from a wide range of study areas including pre-med, accounting, economics, biochemistry, mathematics, business administration, international studies, chemical engineering, environmental sciences and finance.

    ASU officials say its law school has an 85 percent passage rate for the State Bar. That's better than the national average of 73 percent.

    They say ASU also ranks in the top 20 of all accredited law schools in placing graduates in real lawyer jobs."

    I like how the cockroaches listed the difficult undergraduate majors only. For $ome rea$on, they did not mention the fact that most law students majored in excrement such as Political "Science," History, Philosophy, Music, etc.

    By the way, you will notice that the accompanying photo shows a bunch of racial minorities. Does anyone believe - for one second - that this accurately depicts a law school class? In the end, the pigs just want asses in seats. They will be happy to financially ruin you, regardless of your ethnicity.


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