Sunday, December 18, 2016

Supposedly “Good” News for the Law School Pigs: First Year Enrollment Essentially Flat


http://abovethelaw.com/2016/12/for-law-schools-no-change-is-good-news/

The News: On December 16, 2016, Kathryn Rubino posted an ATL entry labeled “For Law Schools, No Change Is Good News.” Here is the full text of her report below:

“Some incredibly mediocre news from the world of legal education: the number of students enrolled in law school has barely increased. There are 36 more students in this year’s 1L class, and that counts as good news since it’s the first time these numbers have gone up since 2010 — when the impact of the Great Recession began to take its toll on law schools. 

But to be clear, the small numerical increase registers as a statistical non-event, meaning the numbers are flat from last year. It should also be noted that even if this year’s bump in enrollment was a cause for celebration, law schools are still down 29 percent from their pre-recession highs. 

The bad news, at least if you’re a law school admin hoping for a return to the glory days, is that these new numbers may be here for a while, as the National Law Journal reports: 

Not so fast, said Derek Muller, a law professor at Pepperdine University School of Law who tracks enrollment trends on his blog Excess of Democracy. The new data suggests that this is the new reality for legal education.

“Flat” is good in the sense of stability, Muller said, but he added, “I think it’s bad for a lot of law schools that were hoping for growth, both in terms of quantity and quality. For schools that had been bracing for a short-term decline, with this bottoming out, I think they’re going to have to expect that this is the new normal.”

Muller predicted that the number of applicants this admissions cycle will remain stable, based on the fact that there has been no significant change in the number of people taking early administrations of the Law School Admission Test. 

[Well], at least law schools aren’t losing students. These days, that counts as a reason for cheer.” [Emphasis mine]

Enjoy the “new normal,” bitches! At least, you vile swine are not saddled with outrageous sums of NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt – while hoping to crack into this GLUTTED field. Now, you rodents can go out and make a boatload of money in private practice. Of course, we know that you jackals would rather financially ruin young people - and swindle the taxpayers - than work hard for a living. Also, good luck finding a law firm that will pay you to take sabbaticals, so that you can write pointless law review articles.

https://lawschooltuitionbubble.wordpress.com/2016/12/16/2016-full-time-matriculants-trickle-up/

Other Coverage: On December 16, 2016, Matt Leichter published an excellent analysis of the situation in his Law School Tuition Bubble blog. The article was entitled “2016: Full-Time Matriculants Trickle Up.” Pay attention to the following portion:

“In calendar year 2016, there were 32,864 full-time matriculants to 204 ABA-accredited law schools, up 257 matriculants from 2015 (+0.8 percent). That year saw an 838-matriculant decline, so the crunch has reversed for the law schools. (These figures exclude the three law school in Puerto Rico, as I usually do.) 

Full-time applicant acceptance rates are largely flat, except at the 90th percentile.” [Emphasis mine]

That does not appear to be good news for the certified ABA toilets. For instance, how many top college grads are applying to CreighTTTon or $yracu$e? Take a look at the charts that Leichter compiled as well. Now scroll down for this excerpt:

“102 law schools saw a growth in applications, which is much higher than last year. First place goes to (and you’ll love this) … Indiana Tech (235.4 percent), which will close at the end of the academic year. It received 332 applications, extended only 128 offers, and admitted but 39 full-time students. Indiana Tech’s 75th percentile full-time applicant received a 152 on the LSAT. It preferred to close than accept 204 applicants (~60 percent). Numbers two and three for application growth were Florida (98.9 percent) and Concordia (71.0 percent). 

Before anyone gets excited about rising law-school applications, though, I note that 123.5 percent of the rise can be attributed to U.S. News‘ top 14 law schools. That means that all of the growth this year can be attributed to these 14 law schools along with an offset to declines at other schools. Thus, things probably don’t look any better for most schools since last year. In the last two years, I’ve commented on the possibility that applicants believe that now is the best time to go to an elite law school, and while that sentiment dissipated last year, it’s back now for sure.” [Emphasis mine]

Recent college graduates with stellar LSAT scores are evidently taking advantage of the big-ass drop in applications since 2010. How does that help second tier sewers and third tier commodes?! The waterheads enrolling in those cesspits are still screwed. The job prospects remain bleak for TTT law students and graduates, but the "professors" and deans will be happy to take your loan money, i.e. taxpayer funds, anyway.

Conclusion: The bottom-feeding toilets continue to admit morons and cretins who have little to no connections, and essentially no shot in hell at becoming successful lawyers. It will be interesting to see if these ABA-accredited dung heaps are still giving out tuition reductions, i.e. scholarships, to entice these dunces to take the TTTT plunge. Try not to be too damn dumb and accept such an offer, Lemming. You are much better off staying at your current job, learning new skills, making real connections in your field or industry, and seeking pay increases or promotions. That will not cost you three years of your life and you will also avoid crushing debt. 

18 comments:

  1. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingDecember 18, 2016 at 7:22 AM

    With good reason too. Who wants to practice in a profession that allows billboards placed near Chicago's expressways shilling $49.00 traffic ticket defense? "Don't Pay that Ticket" It's a turn off to any would be, idealistic lawyer.

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  2. Enrollment is flat with open admissions at many of the toilets. What happens if the ABA implements the 75% bar passage rule next year? The toilets will have to become more selective if they want to avoid ABA sanctions.

    There has been a lot of talk about how the law school scam has harmed law grads. It took me almost 10 years and a lot of work in a non-legal, non-JD “advantage” job to pay off my loans and break even. Many of my friends are struggling and haven’t even put a dent in their outrageous law school loans. But the actions of the pigs have also harmed the nation. Law is a serious profession. Law should be respectable like medicine, the clergy, and accounting (which the pigs now claim is a JD “advantage job”). But the pigs have run the legal profession into the ground. The criminal justice system was so important to the founders of this nation, that several rights in criminal cases were added to the Constitution in the Bill of Rights. Criminal cases are serious matters. The country needs quality prosecutors to put murders and dangerous criminals in prison. And quality defense attorneys are needed to ensure that the rights of criminals are respected.

    When the pigs admit unqualified students to get their hooves on federal student loan dollars, and hide out in academia writing worthless law review articles, the pigs debase the legal system in this country. Lawyers have some of the highest rates of alcohol abuse, drug abuse, and depression. I would be depressed too if I had $100k+ in student loans and worked out of a dilapidated office building, charging $50 for a traffic ticket. Check out some of the depressing salaries offered by law firms at https://lawsalaries.blogspot.com/. Drug addicts and depressed lawyers do not effectively represent clients. Broke desperate lawyers also are more likely to commit unethical conduct. Admitting unqualified students also hurts the profession if they eventually pass the bar. The ABA reported that malpractice claims are on the rise. I haven’t seen any data on ineffective assistance of counsel in criminal cases. I’m curious to see if the pigs’ lax admissions standards have made an impact.

    The pigs’ “academic” literature is worthless and contributes nothing to the profession. In medicine, MDs and PhDs perform research to better diagnose and treat diseases. Hospitals and doctors around the world read the research and modify their treatment to better serve their patients. The law review articles written by the pigs are absolutely worthless. Legal practitioners don’t use them at all. Legal practitioners could use the help. They have plenty of questions on case strategy and tactics. They have questions about the law. But law schools, in a race for prestige, hire lazy Harvard/elite law school grads with minimal practical experience, in order to churn out esoteric articles of limited relevance to the practitioner. So the practitioners turn to CLEs. Organizations like the NDAA fill the need that the lazy law professors fail to meet. Even if law schools decided that they should publish law review articles that were more relevant to the practitioners, their faculty lack the knowledge and experience to write anything of use.

    The pigs defend the law school scam because they claim there is a shortage of lawyers for the underserved. There is no shortage of lawyers, there is a shortage of cash to pay these lawyers. Rather than advocate for more funding to public defender offices to hire more attorneys and more effectively represent defendants, the pigs would rather funnel student loan dollars into their coffers, hide out in academia and not work. Corporations are making customers give up the right to sue and instead resolve disputes through arbitration. This reduces business for lawyers. Rather than advocate against this, the ABA is more concerned about advocating for gun control, abortion, and accrediting more toilet law schools. Way to go pigs! The most vulnerable in society are worse off now.

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  3. Key word: GLUTTED. There are way too many law schools cranking out way too many JDs.

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  4. Sounds like the schools at the bottom are getting fewer applicants and dumber ones at that. Maybe a few more will shut their doors.

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    1. Some of these places will barely have any students pass the bar in the coming years, the "standards" have dropped that much. (75th LSAT % is sub 150 at several skools!)

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  5. I think it's clear that simply opposing the law school scam isn't enough. What is needed is a loud condemnation of worthless liberal arts degrees.
    Why Liberal Arts Degrees are Worthless
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-liberal-arts-degrees-worthless-steven-waechter

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    1. The main reason for their worthlessness is the fact that everybody and his mother-fucking pet gerbil has one nowadays.

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    2. True enough. Many, if not most, times a Liberal Artist led by Boomers down the path of getting an "education" winds up with a useless BA, then tries to cure it by washing it down with a JD, never thinking if he really knows what it means to solo as a newbie attorney.

      We all know the results here for so many.

      Huge debt and few opportunities for unconnected kids from mediocre skools. So The Scam really begins much sooner than law school.

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    3. The smart kids got the memo a while ago that, barring admission to an elite school or having valuable contacts and connections to the legal community, law school is now too risky for most. There are far better, more efficient, less miserable ways to make a living, and the smarter kids know this and avoid The Law School Scam.

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  6. Nando,

    Did you see this from the Chronicle of Higher Education?

    The U.S. Department of Education will end access to federal student aid for the Charlotte School of Law, a for-profit institution, at the end of this month, the department said in a news release.

    The release said that the law school was not compliant with standards set by the American Bar Association, the institution’s accreditor, and that it had violated the Higher Education Act, the department’s regulations, and the school’s agreement with the department. The department also found that the institution had misrepresented its accreditation status and the likelihood that graduates would pass the bar exam to current and prospective students.

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  7. One particular ABA-accredited toilet received decidedly bad news recently. Let's see how the pigs spin this story.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/12/19/feds-deny-financial-aid-funding-to-for-profit-n-c-law-school/?utm_term=.d05d9e7f84b5

    On December 19, 2016, the Washington Post published a Danielle Douglas-Gabriel piece, under the beautiful headline "Education Department denies federal student aid to for-profit N.C. law school." Enjoy the following segment:

    "The Education Department on Monday said Charlotte School of Law can no longer receive federal loans and grants for misleading students about their chances of passing the bar and its shaky accreditation with the American Bar Association.

    “The ABA repeatedly found that the Charlotte School of Law does not prepare students for participation in the legal profession. Yet CSL continuously misrepresented itself to current and prospective students as hitting the mark,” Undersecretary of Education Ted Mitchell said in a statement. “CSL’s actions were misleading and dishonest. We can no longer allow them continued access to federal student aid.”

    The bar association first raised concerns about Charlotte School of Law, a for-profit college founded in 2004, after an on-site evaluation last year. Examiners concluded that the school’s curriculum failed to prepare students to take the bar and that the administration admitted people incapable of completing the program. After months of hearings and requests for more information, the bar this summer said the law school was not living up to the standards necessary for accreditation."

    Now, you swine will get to see just how valuable others see you. I'm guessing private donors won't quite match the loss in federal taxpayer funds.

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  8. Come on Nando, this a one off situation.

    There will quickly be banks lined up to be private loan providers to the students in need.

    This is an attempt to bankrupt the school, this is merely a speed bump in the big picture.

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  9. I wouldn't read too much into Charlotte. I've said it from the beginning: This was akin to a mafia hit with a rival group taking out another group.

    The key distinction here is "for profit".

    The ABA speaks and acts out of both sides of its mouth and ass.. They just gave full accreditation to UMass and North Texas while also claiming that law school employment survey results based on 10 "randomly selected" law schools show no wrongdoing or deception.

    One commenter pointed out that unless an independent party is conducting an audit, it cannot be trusted. Another raised the question of whether the ABA actually dug into the numbers while doing the "audit". The law schools, themselves interested parties, have control of the data used to create - and I use the word "create" - the surveys. Another interested party, the ABA, "audits" them. Really?!??

    With law school enrollment declining 40-50% at most schools, the vultures are competing for the pool of applicants READ: the pool of available Fed. Student Loan money (gravy).

    There was no way, IMO, that the Infilaw for-profits were going to be allowed to survive in the current law school environment. They have to be taken out. A few words to some buddies at the Dept. of Edu. - another interested party - and it's Game On! regarding taking out the Infilaw Group of schools.

    It will not be long, IMO, before Florida and Arizona go the same way. As if the alleged "non-profits" are preparing their students to pass a Bar any better.. UMass, North Texas, etc.

    The ABA and the Dept. of Edu. appear to be enemies but they are frenemies in reality. They and the law schools and LSAC etc. are all in on the Scam together and each gets their cut, etc.

    Pure Mafioso. All of them. The ABA will never take out the "non-profits" but Infilaw has to go.. A small scam within the larger Grand Scam.

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  10. http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/slight_increase_in_1ls_for_2016_aba_consumer_info_shows

    On December 15, 2016, the ABA Journal featured a Stephanie Francis Ward article entitled "Slight increase in 1Ls for 2016, new ABA data shows." Here is the full text:

    "Total enrollment for ABA-accredited law schools decreased by 2.6 percent in the past year, but for first-year classes, there was an increase of 0.1 percent, according to Standard 509 Information Reports data released Thursday.

    The reports are required for accredited law schools, and can be found on a ABA Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar website, or the schools’ individual sites. Information in the reports include tuition costs, students’ average GPA and LSAT scores and bar passage results for 2014, 2013 and 2012. The information is verified by the legal ed section and the Law School Admission Council.

    According to a statement (PDF) the section released Thursday, the accredited schools had a total of 110,951 law students in Fall 2016, and 37,107 were first-year students. Comparatively, total enrollment for Fall 2015 was 113,900, and there were 37,071 first-year law students.

    Also, out of the 204 ABA-accredited law schools, 94 reported smaller 1L classes this year, while 110 indicated that their first-year classes had no size change or were larger than last year."

    I'm sure that the desperate law school pigs are somewhat happy to see a rousing 0.1 percent increase in total first year enrollment. Even though this was to the benefit of the decent schools, the rodents at the bottom-feeding stink pits will spin it as a positive. However, I suspect most of the swine are just hoping to hold on to their "professor" gigs until they reach retirement.

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  11. That small increase doesn't make up for the overall drop in enrollment in ABA law schools.

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  12. latest news - ABA lawsuit against DOE- is an effort to make toileting a no lose situation for the law schools. Go and get a job- you win. Go and not get a job but go to work for a trade association or as a volunteer for a political organization paying something - well if they pay you, you get the toilet almost for free after 10 years.

    Now the ABA says you can work for the ABA and have your loan forgiven or work for Cravath as a pro bono coordinator and have your loan forgiven. And of course the ABA has standing to bring a lawsuit challenging the DOE's position on forgiveness of law student loans. Hell to the powers at the ABA! Law schools uber alyss! This case has the goal of bringing more free taxpayer money to the the law schools and it stinks from the scummy dirt it brings with it.

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  13. The admission rates likely went up again. Before you know it they'll let you if you can write your name correctly.

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  14. If the enrollment rates flatline, skools will have to raise tuition. But they have to provide some scholly dollars to attract some of the better students. What a juggling act.

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