Wednesday, December 28, 2016

TTTT Smells of Desperation: Charlotte School of Law Swine State That They Support the Students


http://abovethelaw.com/2016/12/law-school-faculty-rebels-against-for-profit-infilaw-stands-by-students-in-time-of-need/

Pigs Come to Students’ Aid: On December 22, 2016, Staci Zaretsky posted an ATL entry labeled “Law School Faculty Rebels Against For-Profit Infilaw, Stands By Students In Time Of Need.” Take a look at this opening:

“On Monday, the Department of Education announced that Charlotte School of Law, a for-profit Infilaw institution, would lose its eligibility to participate in the federal student loan program on December 31, 2016. Thanks to the school’s non-compliance with American Bar Association standards and its misrepresentations to students regarding their ability to pass the bar exam, Charlotte Law students are feeling as though they’ve been left out in the cold, despite the fact that administrators at the school claim to want to protect them. 

The administration’s goal to protect students who have been wronged — not by Charlotte Law’s alleged malfeasance, of course, but by the Department of Education — flies in the face of what we’ve been told by students who attend the school. We’ve heard that members of the law school administration have blocked all student access to the seventh floor of the building where their offices are located, and haven’t been answering calls. 

Charlotte Law faculty members, on the other hand, are standing by their students, and are ready to go to war for them. A source at the law school told us that faculty members are now “rebelling against [their] Infilaw overlords,” and sent out a strongly worded letter via email to all students and alumni of the school. Here’s a pertinent passage from that letter (which is available in full on the next page): 

Students, we share in your feelings of sadness, anger, and disappointment. At this juncture, we are insisting that Infilaw recognize that decisions about admissions and curriculum must be made by the faculty. These decisions are the subject of our current situation and were made without the benefit of those best able to protect the students’ interests. 

Despite the institutional failures listed in the letter from the DOE on December 19, 2016, we assure you that your faculty remains committed to delivering quality legal education. We are unified in our desire to the best by our students and alumni as we face the challenges ahead. 

You know that your law school has been doing something incredibly wrong when the faculty refer to “institutional failures” in a letter that has been sent directly to students and alumni who have paid (or more likely, borrowed) money hand over fist to attend.” [Emphasis mine]

For $ome rea$on, these “legal educators” failed to mention that the faculty typically run law schools. Perhaps, the situation is different at this toilet, since Infilaw is owned and operated by Sterling Partners, a private-equity firm. In the end, this is mere window dressing. The bitches and hags simply want your borrowed money, dumbass. 

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article123181349.html

Other Coverage: On December 27, 2016, the Editorial Board of the Charlotte Observer published a brutal op-ed piece that was entitled “Charlotte School of Law students deserved better.” Enjoy the following portion:

“Charlotte School of Law leaders have made some big mistakes, it seems. Unfortunately, the people paying for those mistakes are hundreds of innocent law school students. 

According to recent reporting from the Observer’s Michael Gordon, students received little, if any, warning that the school has been under heavy accreditation scrutiny from the American Bar Association since March 2014, or that it has repeatedly been found lacking in its bar exam passage rate, academic rigor and its admissions standards. The ABA called it a “substantial and persistent” problem. 

The 700 or so students at the private, for-profit law school in uptown Charlotte didn’t learn about all that until the ABA formally placed the school on probation in November, news that arrived just as final exams were about to begin.

That was followed by news that these same problems had prompted the U.S. Department of Education to block millions of dollars in student loans and other federal financial aid that would normally flow to the school. 

The school had deceived students by masking the extent of its problems, the DOE said… 

It is unclear if classes will resume on Jan. 14 as scheduled. 

But what seems abundantly clear is that students remained in the dark about this for months, even as they continued to write hefty tuition checks and take out student loans to cover $60,000 in annual tuition and fees. 

It seems particularly unconscionable that the school’s leadership would let students enroll for this fall’s classes without telling them about what was going on – especially since an ABA noncompliance report issued in July required the school to do exactly that. Students surely suspect that the school’s leadership cared more about the income stream than their welfare.” [Emphasis mine]

It’s nice to see mainstream news outlets barbecue the law school swine, for their blatant greed and deceit. In a just world, the “professors” and administrators would be pelted with vegetables – by the students and recent graduates.

Conclusion: Avoid Charlotte Sewer of Law, at all costs. While I don’t see the Department of Education withholding student loans to this trash pit for long, this action will sink the commode’s repuTTTTaTTTTion even further. Frankly, if this is the best law school that you can get into, then you are already on a losing path. Hell, full-time tuition at this dung heap – for the 2016-2017 academic year – amounts to $42,320! Yet, the best outcome you can hope to attain is toiletlaw. Why would anyone with an IQ above room temperature even consider incurring an additional $155K+ in NON-DISCHARGEABLE debt, for these garbage job prospects?!?! Do you hate yourself that much, Lemming? 

19 comments:

  1. Over the past few years, members of Congress have sought to exclude Caribbean medical schools from the Federal student loan program. Caribbean medical schools often have lower USMLE pass rates and a lower percentage of students match into residencies compared to US medical schools. For an ABA approved law school to be deemed a scam and to be excluded from the student loan program before a Carribean medical school is absolutely disgraceful to the legal profession. The ABA should be ashamed. Carribean medical schools are more selective and produce better results for graduates than many ABA approved law schools. We are fast approaching a point where get rich quick real estate courses taught by Tom Vu and Trump's minions are more respectable than some ABA law schools.

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  2. Undergraduate students are starting to wise up too:

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/12/21/freshman-announces-hes-dropping-out-kansas-state-and-sets-debate-general-education

    A freshman with a 4.0 GPA at Kansas State University announced he dropped out because higher education is a scam. He posted a picture of himself flipping the bird at the school. He warned that college students are borrowing thousands of dollars to learn things they will never use.

    I don't completely agree with this guy's assessment. Education can open doors into great careers in medicine, engineering, and business. But for many undergrads attending low ranked schools and studying worthless subjects, a college education can be a costly mistake.

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    1. It USED to open doors. This guy should get a temp job and take Community College accounting classes part-time. I wish him the best.

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    2. It opened doors at a time when few people attended university. By the mid-1980s or so, everyone and her fucking pet gerbil was in university. And now everyone and her fucking pet gerbil is in law school.

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  3. Thanks for everything you do. My nephew just dropped out of law school. First semester grades came back and he had a C and a bunch of B minuses. He called me and told me he should've listened to me. I told him he didn't need to apologize. I just told him I'm glad he made the right decision. He gave up a job making $60K for this shit. These schools are scum.

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    1. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingDecember 28, 2016 at 5:08 PM

      A few years back, a 60K gig when compared to an attorney job was somewhat lowly. Today, 60K is the holy grail, the golden ring for any attorney, veteran or newbie. I applied for a PD job advertising under 40K. There were dozens of applicants, veterans and newbies. The market is completely glutted with more and more attorneys being pumped out yearly. And then there are those billboards $49.00 traffic ticket defense. "Don't pay that ticket." What a profession...

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    2. Captain, have you seen the billboard on I-55 south, after County Line Road, advertising DUI defense for $999? How does a criminal defense attorney pay rent, utilities, Westlaw fees, advertising fees, student loans, and earn money to live on at that rate? Just a few years ago, I heard the going rate for a DUI was several thousand dollars.

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    3. At 64, 40 years in, a 60K job with health insurance would be a blessing.

      Alas and alac, I will probably shut down my office in the next 8 to 10 months for lack of work.

      A sad and sordid end to a "career" of representing over 4,000 clients.

      My "practice" is worth nothing to pass on.

      Soon, I will try to live on about $35,000 a year, paying HALF that or more for HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS.

      Welcome to HELL.

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    4. At least get on Medicare when you turn 65. That should help, some.

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    5. Be thankful you don't have to fight ISIS in your home town and worry about your children being murdered. YOU have so much to be thankful for. Stop whining.

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    6. I guess the point is that I'd have another $300,000 in the bank if I had a job with health insurance benefits-about doubling my savings-for retirement. Solo law=no pension, just savings and Social Security will be my retirement income.

      So the point of this blog is how small law practice affects the lawyer negatively, why 0L's should remain 0L's, and in that regard, the inability to retire is DAMN IMPORTANT.

      So, it is NOT whining, it is the reality of solo practice.

      In 40 years, the ONLY employee benefit I received was 2 week paid vacation when I was earning about $300 a week as an attorney. For the remaining 38.5 years, I have paid all health insurance premiums, and such out of my pocket. No dental, no optical, no life insurance, no pension, no disability, nothing.

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  4. Law is a shit profession. Medicine is costly and so is veterinarian school. But people have insurance and will get fixed up. And will shell out money to save their beloved pets. Law? Not so much.

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  5. Note the differences between the outcomes.

    People need to learn, and accept, how America works.

    Thread 1:

    http://jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=121929

    Thread 2:

    http://jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=122011

    The direct links to LG&M are right there in the first entry from the OP.

    READ the article. And READ the comments below (e.g. the one from Barry on Duke)

    Connections, money, and grooming matter - a LOT. Everyone else is playing a stacked, rigged Game which is 99% to their disadvantage. Even Vegas would laugh their asses off at odds like that. Both today's corporate-run Vegas which is a joke and the old 1960's / 1970's Mafia-run Vegas where you actually had a shot at games like Blackjack before they changed the rules and thus the game.

    Off topic.. But I felt it needed to be pointed out.

    Accept the realities of inequality. It will always be the 99% vs. the 1% and nowhere is this more true than in law.

    Daddy makes a few phone calls for someone with connections vs. the other, far more common scenario of sending out hundreds of applications and resumes ("networking"), what a joke.., and so on - and getting *nothing*.

    When Nando says "Don't go!". It MEANS: Don't go! Period.

    Successful people in law won the Game before they ever started. And they weren't playing by the same Rules - or even the same Game - that you are, Lemming.

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    1. This is spot on. I have networked all over the place to obtain new small business clients and companies as their attorney. Everybody has their "guy." Even startups.... If you take a look at any suburban office park, one attorney could take care of all those businesses. Contrast that with accountants, managers, marketing or engineers. Each business might employ at least one or two or more in house.

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  6. We middle-class people have to free ourselves from the shackles placed on us by older generations - with ideas that the only respectable job is a white-collar one and that more degrees = greater success. These ideas are destroying lives. They're the only reason for-profit bullshit schools like Charlotte exist.

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  7. http://www.thefacultylounge.org/2016/09/improvements-at-charlotte-law-yield-record-low-bar-results.html

    Back on September 13, 2016, David Frakt sandblasted CharloTTTTe Sewer of Law in a piece labeled '"Improvements" at Charlotte Law Yield Record Low Bar Results.' Enjoy this epic opening:

    "Loyal readers of this website will recall my debate in late 2014/early 2015, with Charlotte Law’s Dean Jay Conison, about Charlotte’s/InfiLaw’s admission policies. I suggested, as I did in my infamous Dean candidate talk at Florida Coastal, that admitting so many extremely high risk students would inevitably result in a steep drop in bar passage rates, which would potentially jeopardize the school’s accreditation. Dean Conison disputed this notion, suggesting that horrible LSAT scores and UGPAs did not have the same meaning at Charlotte Law as elsewhere and admonishing me that law school is not a “black box.”

    Dean Conison took the helm at Charlotte Law in April 2013, in time to impact admissions for the entering class of 2013. Let us not forget that Dean Conison came straight from being the Dean at Valparaiso Law School where the classes that he recruited in his final years have driven the school’s reputation, and bar passage rate, right into the toilet. Since the fall entering class of 2013 recently graduated, I thought it would be a propitious time to check in on how Charlotte’s students have fared under Conison’s leadership.

    As a baseline, let’s look at the bar passage rate when Conison arrived. Charlotte reported a 66.67% first time pass rate for 2012, with a substantial majority of graduates taking the North Carolina bar, where the first time pass rate was 65.43%. Since Conison’s arrival, the bar pass rate has been in freefall. In 2013, it was 61.72%. In 2014, it was 57.93%. In 2015, it dropped again. We don’t have the official school wide numbers, but the NC first-time pass rate was 40.5% in Feb 15 and 47.1% in July, down considerably from the prior year. The trend has continued in 2016, according to information provided by Dean Conison.

    Above the Law recently published a letter that Dean Conison sent out to Charlotte’s graduates announcing the July NC results. In the letter, he mentioned that Charlotte’s pass rate for first-time takers was 45.24%. This was Charlotte’s worst NC pass rate since gaining accreditation in 2008, down from their previous record low of 47.1% in summer 2015. Amazingly, Dean Conison claimed that this rate “signals that our improvements are having an impact.” The asserted basis for this statement was an 11% improvement from the February bar pass rate from Charlotte’s February first-time pass rate of 34.7%. It is shockingly disingenuous to claim that an increase in 11% from the February bar to the July bar indicates “improvement.” February bar pass rates are consistently lower than July bar pass rates at virtually every law school."

    Apparently, he is not a fan of Jay Conison. What a fitting name, by the way. After all, law school is a con game. Unfortunately, waterheads and mental midgets keep taking the plunge.

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  8. That shit in the photo is in better shape than Charlotte Law Skool.

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  9. http://www.wbtv.com/story/34097928/charlotte-school-of-law-responds-to-dept-of-educations-decision-to-end-financial-aid

    On December 20, 2016, WBTV posted a story entitled “Charlotte School of Law responds to Dept. of Education's decision to end financial aid.” Enjoy!:

    "The Charlotte School of Law responded Tuesday to the Department of Education's accusations of "dishonest" practices and their decision to stop providing financial aid to CSL students.

    The school says the Department of Education notified them Monday that their application for recertification was denied and that their eligibility regarding financial aid would end on Dec. 31.

    "We strongly disagree with this determination and are evaluating all available options to challenge the decision, particularly the Department of Education’s mischaracterization of CharlotteLaw’s academic accreditation from the American Bar Association (ABA) and our representation of that status," Charlotte School of Law said Tuesday.

    The Department of Education said Monday that they concluded that Charlotte School of Law's non-compliance with standards set by its accreditor, the American Bar Association, "resulted in its violation of the Higher Education Act, the department's regulations and CSL's Program Participation Agreement with the Department."

    The department says it took the action because the school failed to meet the standards of the ABA while making “substantial misrepresentations to current and prospective students” about its standing and the “likelihood that its graduates would pass the bar exam.”

    Starting Jan. 1, students can no longer use federal assistance to attend the school.”

    Who gives a damn if you pigs “strongly disagree” with the Department of Education’s decision, bitch? It was the right thing to do, bastards. Maybe you could stop misrepresenting your commode to students and accreditors. Did that ever cross your greedy, little minds?!?!

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  10. Here is the rest of the WBTV story:

    "Charlotte Law will continue to work closely with the ABA to seek clarification on this unprecedented decision and we will preserve all avenues of appeal and recourse available to us," the school responded. " We will continue to put the best interests of our students first and foremost as we assess our options going forward."

    The Department of Education maintains the ABA repeatedly found the Charlotte School of Law does not prepare students for participation in the legal profession.

    "Yet CSL continuously misrepresented itself to current and prospective students as hitting the mark," said U.S. Under Secretary of Education Ted Mitchell. “CSL’s actions were misleading and dishonest. We can no longer allow them continued access to federal student aid.”

    The American Bar Association announced on Nov. 14 that Charlotte School of Law was being placed on probation, citing the school's non-compliance with several standards necessary to maintain its accreditation with the ABA.

    The ABA first informed CSL of its non-compliance in February 2016, and in July 2016, the Department of Education says. On both occasions, the school failed to disclose the findings to current and prospective students, "despite its admission that the information would have a profound impact on their enrollment decisions," the department says.

    Instead, the Department of Education says, CSL continued to represent itself as in full compliance with the ABA’s standards.

    The school has until Jan. 3, 2017 to submit evidence to dispute the Department’s findings."

    Good luck, thieving cockroaches. Sadly, cretins and special snowflake idiots will continue to apply to - and enroll in - your trash pit.

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