Monday, January 23, 2017

TTTT Smells of Desperation: Charlotte Sewer of Law Fires Dozens of TTTT Faculty


http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article127438764.html

Wham!: On January 19, 2017, the Charlotte Observer published a Michael Gordon piece, under the headline “Charlotte School of Law fires dozens of faculty.” Review the following segment:

“The faculty firings are the latest public setback for the uptown, for-profit school. In November, the American Bar Association put the school on probation, citing chronic problems with admissions, curriculum and bar exam scores. In December, the Department of Education made CSL the first accredited law school ever to lose access to federal student loans. Last year, students at the Charlotte school received almost $50 million for tuition, fees and living expenses. Both the government and the bar accused school leaders of intentionally hiding its problems from students in hopes of protecting enrollment. 

This week, the crisis facing the school seemed to worsen. 

On Wednesday, the Department of Education announced that negotiations with the school over the return of millions of dollars in student loans have broken down. A top education official accused school leaders of reneging on a preliminary deal that would have restored some of the lost money. 

Thursday, school President Chidi Ogene and Conison issued an extraordinary statement in which they accused the Department of Education of breaking the law and violating its own rules by cutting off loans to students last year. 

“It is regrettable that the Department of Education leadership, in the very last days of its tenure, has chosen to jeopardize the future of all our students,” the statement said. “… That is why we will continue to fight aggressively for the interests of every one of our students when the new administration takes responsibility for the department.” 

School leaders said they are continuing “to work aggressively to protect our students’ rights. … We are not holding our students’ education hostage to these negotiations.” [Emphasis mine]

Yes, you cockroaches are fighting so hard for your students’ right to financially ruin themselves, in the pursuit of a TTTT “legal education.” How honorable, huh?!?! Payday lenders have more integrity than you sick bitches.

As you can see from the commode’s own website, CharloTTTTE Sewer of Law charges $42,320 in full-time tuition – for the 2016-2017 academic year. What an incredible “bargain”! Imagine if you bastards didn’t look out for your enrolled victims’ best interests. By the way, congratulations on being the first ABA-accredited cesspit to lose access to federal student loans.That is quite an achievement! 

http://abovethelaw.com/2017/01/charlotte-fires-dozens-of-faculty-which-surprises-no-one/

Other Coverage: On January 19, 2017, Joe Patrice posted an ATL article that was entitled “Charlotte Fires Dozens Of Faculty, Which Surprises No One.” He delivered a brutal combination to this toilet. Take a look at this opening:

“Oh. So the law school that can’t get federal money and then took a Kremlin pee party on a negotiated agreement with the Department of Education is laying off its faculty in droves today? What are the odds?!?!?  

As we should have suspected, Charlotte School of Law followed the announcement that it would not sign on to a DOE “teach-out” proposal that would have allowed the school’s students to get access to some federal funds and complete their education at Florida Coastal by whipping out the pink slips.

As the Charlotte Observer reports: 

‘Sources said that up to two-thirds of the school’s professors and staff were notified in the past two days. The massive cuts come less than week before the school is supposed to reopen despite crippling financial problems that threaten to overwhelm it.’ 

Threaten to overwhelm it? When has “we’ve fired over two-thirds of our faculty” ever ended with “but then we got this ship turned around”? When two-thirds of the faculty is fired, you can start using the past tense on the “overwhelm” point.

A fired faculty member who asked not to be named out of concern of retaliation told the Observer that Dean Jay Conison made personal phone calls to the affected staffers starting Wednesday night. Those calls continued Thursday morning, the former faculty member said.

At least they’re getting the personal touch. It’s really the least you can offer.” [Emphasis mine]

The law school pigs should feel special about that personal touch. I’m sure the dean doesn’t get on the phone to congratulate applicants for gaining admission to his for-profit toilet. Then again, I suppose a 143 LSAT score is not that great of an accomplishment. Hell, beating your 12 year old nephew in a game of H.O.R.S.E., in the basketball hoop in the driveway, is more impressive.

Conclusion: If you are a student at this rancid pile of excrement, then you have only yourself to blame when you end up serving pizza and taking drink orders – with your TTTT law degree. Did you honestly think – for one microsecond – that you were going to kick some ass with a degree from something called Charlotte Sewer of Law?!?! Whoever told you that didn’t know a damn thing about this GLUTTED “profession.” Amazingly, YOU were even dumber for listening to that clueless fool. In the end, you would be better served by going to culinary school. At least then, you would pick up a real skill, moron! Hell, at this point in time that might be a better pickup line than saying “I’m a lawyer.” After all, women aren’t too keen on dating broke-asses – including the highly-educated, debt-strapped ones.

39 comments:

  1. Maybe they're just trying to ride things out. The new administration might not be so interested in holding for-profit schools to account for their bullshit.

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    1. Fuckstick McBillicuddy XVIIJanuary 23, 2017 at 7:42 AM

      What'cha talking 'bout? Didn't you hear the newly elected president say he's taking the power from the few and giving it to us...the people?

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    2. Yes, it's pretty obvious that this is what is happening. They are hoping that the new administration will look the other way and let their crony capitalism and privatized-profits-but-socialized-losses scam continue.

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  2. Sounds like Charlotte tried to shake down the Dept of Ed for more money or concessions and when they wouldn't budge the school made it seem like the Dept of Ed was trying to hold Charlotte's students hostage. Pretty low.

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    1. Birds gotta fly, fish gotta swim, scammers gotta shill....

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  3. There's a Doc Review project here in Vegas paying $20/hr if they need the work. I'm sure that Charleston School of Law teaching gig will look great on their resume.

    http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/lgl/5965363353.html

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  4. These layoffs are sure to impact the “quality” courses offered by Charlotte.

    Any news on the future of “Law and Popular Culture?” Check out the course description: “How accurate is Jay-Z’s assessment of the Fourth Amendment in verse 2 of his hit song, 99 Problems? How would the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment apply to the mutant members of the X-Men...[the] course will explore the interplay between law and legal theory with various mediums of popular culture, including popular music, the comic book genre, and popular movies and television (including reality shows).” This sounds like a course that even the idiot AAMPLE / Seton Hall troll could handle.

    What will happen to all the Charlotte lemmings who planned on becoming the next brilliant sports general manager or super-agent? Charlotte’s “Sports Law” course examines the legal principles on the formation of the major leagues of American professional sports. The course also examines legal issues relating to player contracts, collective bargaining agreements, and league organization and governance. Way to go ABA and DOE! You just shut off a pipeline of executive talent into the NBA, MLB, NFL, and NHL.

    I feel bad for the Charlotte lemmings who worked hard to maintain the stringent cumulative GPA of 3.0 or higher just so they could enroll in “Caribbean Law!” This course is very selective as far as who they let in. Not any AAMPLE idiot can enroll. The course provides “students with a comprehensive understanding of the Commonwealth Caribbean Law System, including its historical context, court systems, and role of common law and legislation.” An expert on Caribbean Law is just what legal employers are looking for in a graduate.

    Ultimately the real winners here are the fired faculty. Now they can return to their old big law firm jobs and start raking in $1,000,000+ a year. The losers are the students who will miss out on these great educational opportunities.

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    1. I'd better not enroll in "Law and Popular Culture", as I haven't even heard of Jay-Z or the X-Men.

      Charlotte is a veritable menagerie of weird courses. As if "Sports Law" were not enough, there are also "Amateur Sports Law" and "Practice in Context: Sports Law". "Caribbean Law" has the companion "Law and Politics of the Caribbean", not to mention the bizarre "Hurricane Katrina 10 Years Later: Disaster Relief at the Gulf Coast". (What exactly is Charlotte's connection to the Caribbean? Has anyone there consulted a map?) "Law and Popular Culture" is joined by "Law and Culture in American Film" and "Law and Literature of Crime".

      And there's a whole string of courses on military matters, racial oppression, art, the media, and just about anything else but ... law.

      If Yale indulged in scads of funky-ass courses unrelated to the practice of law, I wouldn't say a word. But Harlotte, of all law schools, has no business offering such tripe. It should focus on the meat and potatoes. Better yet, it should shut up shop.

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    2. That is one of the hallmarks of a scam school--lots of "law and _______" courses which sound exotic and give the gullible the impression they will actually get jobs in these practice areas. Would be interesting to know how many of their graduates in the last few years have actually landed jobs practicing sports law or Caribbean law (whatever that means).

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    3. If I had in mind to practice "Caribbean law" (as if Cuba, Puerto Rico, Haiti, and Grenada shared a legal system or even a legal heritage), I'd first look into requirements for admission to the bar. Need one be a citizen of the relevant state? That could be a big issue.

      After that, I'd consider attending a law school in the relevant part of the Caribbean, or in another relevant jurisdiction (probably England for much of the Commonwealth, maybe France or the Netherlands for a few dependencies).

      Under no circumstances would I enroll at Harlotte, which isn't even near the fucking Caribbean.

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  5. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingJanuary 23, 2017 at 3:13 PM

    Welcome boys and girls to private, solo law practice. You too can now represent traffic offenders for $49.00 in Chicagoland and compete with the Ticket Clinic.

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  6. Now these laid off profs can go find some high paying, highly rewarding work representing endangered species, fighting against big time polluters, and social justice something or other. That's the ticket!

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  7. http://www.charlottelaw.edu/clinics.html

    According to this page, CharloTTTTe Sewer of Law hosts a total of 12 damn legal clinics. Here is small stool sample of the commode's offerings:

    "Access to Justice: Human Rights Practitioner Clinic [A2J]

    The Access to Justice: Human Rights Practitioner Clinic will introduce students to the ins and outs of being an immigration attorney through a combination of lectures, practical skills exercises and experience through the representation of non-citizens before different government agencies and trier of facts.

    Domestic Violence Law Clinic [DVC]

    Through the Charlotte School of Law Domestic Violence Clinic, law students are given the opportunity to participate in a civil court domestic violence experience in Mecklenburg County. Students will be responsible for all aspects of representing clients and causes in various civil contexts under the attorney's supervision.

    Entrepreneurship Clinic [ENT]

    The Entrepreneurship Clinic at Charlotte School of Law is a student-based program designed to assist mom and pop start-up companies with legal advice and advocacy to launch a business.

    Family Advocacy Clinic [FAC]

    In North Carolina, indigent parents who have lost custody of their children due to allegations of abuse, neglect or dependency are entitled to free legal advice, advocacy and legal representation by appointed counsel.

    Homelessness Prevention Clinic [HPC]

    The HPC will advance Charlotte School of Law's public service mission pillar by representing low-income tenants in Mecklenburg County both in court and through providing legal advice in order to avoid evictions, for which there is an overwhelming need."

    Yes, these are all lucrative areas of practice, right?!?! Think about this for a moment: this festering pile of filth has the nerve to charge its TTTT students $42,320 in full-time tuition – for the current school year – and it then serves up chances to learn toiletlaw. Hell, licensed attorneys working in family law and “human rights” struggle to pay their bills. Perhaps, that is due to the fact that these are not highly specialized areas of law.

    Seriously, do you expect to make money by representing protesters who get roughed up by law enforcement?! Do you think you can make a decent living – while paying back your immense student loan debt – by advocating for bums and deadbeats who skip out on their rent? If so, then you need to have your head examined.

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    1. May I propose another Clinic for this sewer to consider: Attorneys Sodomized by the Scam [ASS]

      "This program focuses on teaching our current students valuable future skills such as 1. the ins and outs of handling student loan collection calls, 2. successful food stamp applications, 3. building a wardrobe from Goodwill items, 4. the best ways to prepare an old futon in your Mom's basement for comfortable sleep.

      Our methodology for this clinic is impeccably crafted with input from hundreds of struggling graduates!"

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    2. Look at all the SJW-ish virtue-signalling! Human Rights Advocacy! Domestic Violence! Homelessness!

      Think about all the young, stupid, politically naive kids running off to law school to join the Jedi Knights.....

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    3. Who exactly wants the legal services of people stupid enough to attend Harlotte?

      Legal advice in order to avoid eviction: Pay your rent. Eviction usually comes down to that. And those that don't pay can usually expect to be evicted. Unfortunately, this sort of advice doesn't help people very much, since they know it already but may not be able to act on it.

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    4. Captain Hruska Carswell, Continuance KingJanuary 24, 2017 at 12:39 PM

      Don't forget those Chicago billboards: $49.00 traffic court defense.

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  8. The dozens of fired professors need our help.

    Let's pull together and advise them.

    For example:

    1. Remove reference possessing a JD. Make up general story to explain three year gap in resume, e.g. spent three years in Thailand finding myself.

    2. Remove reference to teaching law. Instead, say you were working for a venture capital firm and its startup and, as happens with such things, it didn't work out.

    3. Completely change your personality and way of thinking. Be considerate and helpful, and work on finding cheap, effective solutions rather than expensive problems.

    4. Be prepared to work as contractor 10 hours a day, 6 or 7 days a week for two years before a permanent slot opens.

    5. Throw away the tweed jackets. Steel toed shoes or khakis w/black sneakers will be your new BDU.

    Boys, take it from there! They truly need our help.

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    1. This is the "Supporter of The Old Guy," that is a great list.

      And let's add another one.

      6. Get a gym membership. Many of the law professors will not make it through an 8 hour work day. They talk a big game, however.

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    2. 7. Get friendly with the Temp agency staff. They can get you on to the temp-to-hire lists so you can get a full-time factory or warehouse job, and not just seasonal stuff.

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    3. 8. Dougie Fresh, stop pretending to be Black. Everyone sees through the tacky ruse.

      9. Dougie Fresh again, get rid of the pretentious name. A résumé headed "andré douglas pond cummings" will mark you for the effete aristocratic prick that you are. Try "Douglas Cummings".

      10. Move to rural Nebraska. Little crossroads six or seven hours west of Omaha positively teem with opportunities in the legal profession, or so I'm told.

      11. Advertise your commercial savoir-faire. Mention on your résumé that you have helped hundreds of brain-dead lemmings to get a million-dollar premium on their earnings.

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  9. The New York times just published a dubious Elizabeth Olson article with a bizarre title: “Not Only Elite Law Schools Offer Great Returns on Investment.” The article mentions Charlotte Law School. The article cites a “study” by an online student loan refinance company and reports that graduates of some law schools outside the Ivy League are hauling in massive salaries. The study claims that graduates of the University of Houston earn an average salary of $136,370 three years after graduation. The best part – graduates of Charlotte School of Law and Florida Coastal School of Law earn an average salary of $84,000 three years after graduation. Arizona Summit grads earn $96,000!

    The article even quotes a sales pitch from the study, “that graduates with well-paid jobs and good credit can typically refinance their student loans at a lower rate.”

    Wow, you would think that a study that contains a sales pitch would raise red flags at the NYT that maybe the study was not very credible. What’s next, a story on the safety of cigarettes? How is a study from Philip Morris or Altria less credible than an online student loan refinance company? And the lazy reporter Elizabeth Olson made no mention that Charlotte has been sanctioned by the ABA and lost access to Federal Loans. Perhaps Google was down today when she was researching her story. Hell, she should have pointed out that all these schools are amazing, because the grads are earning twice as much as the average solo practitioner.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/24/business/dealbook/law-school-debt-salary.html

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  10. The New York times just published a dubious Elizabeth Olson article with a bizarre title: “Not Only Elite Law Schools Offer Great Returns on Investment.” The article mentions Charlotte Law School. The article cites a “study” by an online student loan refinance company and reports that graduates of some law schools outside the Ivy League are hauling in massive salaries. The study claims that graduates of the University of Houston earn an average salary of $136,370 three years after graduation. The best part – graduates of Charlotte School of Law and Florida Coastal School of Law earn an average salary of $84,000 three years after graduation. Arizona Summit grads earn $96,000!

    The article even quotes a sales pitch from the study, “that graduates with well-paid jobs and good credit can typically refinance their student loans at a lower rate.”

    Wow, you would think that a study that contains a sales pitch would raise red flags at the NYT that maybe the study was not very credible. What’s next, a story on the safety of cigarettes? How is a study from Philip Morris or Altria less credible than an online student loan refinance company? And the lazy reporter Elizabeth Olson made no mention that Charlotte has been sanctioned by the ABA and lost access to Federal Loans. Perhaps Google was down today when she was researching her story. Hell, she should have pointed out that all these schools are amazing, because the grads are earning twice as much as the average solo practitioner.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/24/business/dealbook/law-school-debt-salary.html

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  11. Charlotte NPR has published a tape of a secretly recorded Charlotte law school meeting. A week before the July 2015 bar exam, a Charlotte law “professor” recorded a meeting with assistant dean Odessa Alm. Alm told a group of faculty, "you know if we didn’t have the extended program last time – if we all didn’t work really hard to defer the 21 people we deferred, our [bar] pass rate would have been 20-something percent." Alm was discussing Charlotte’s program that paid students not to take the bar. The entire 37 minute tape is available on the NPR website.

    http://wfae.org/post/law-school-official-bar-passage-would-have-been-20s-if-not-paying-students-not-take-exam

    Some other great quotes: “They're going to fail and that's not just bad on us. Do you want to have another 60% of our students being without a job and have a $150,000 worth of debt. You have to figure out some way to have the conversation with them.”

    And this gem: “It is a week...Right, didn't you feel so f***ing bad when we had 42 percent pass the bar. And we felt like some responsibility for that. I don't want to feel that way anymore. We need to be able to say, to f***ing Rick, who's emailing me the weekend before the bar exam, that we have done every f***ing thing and that's why I'm getting on you guys about it.”

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  12. Thank you for posting that Charlotte NPR story, 6:11 pm! That is brilliant.

    The story is from Lisa Worf and Greg Collard, and it is entitled "Law School Official: Bar Passage Would Have Been in 20s If Not For Paying Students Not To Take Exam." Here is the opening:

    "The Charlotte School of Law has drawn scrutiny in part because of the low percentage of students who have passed the state bar in the last few years. It has consistently had the lowest pass rate in North Carolina, and ranks among the worst in the country.

    In February of 2015, for example, the school’s official passage rate for students who took the bar for the first time is listed at 42 percent. But in reality, the pass rate would have been in the 20s if not for a program that paid struggling students not to take the bar. At least that’s what Odessa Alm, the school’s assistant dean for student success, told a small group of faculty members. (Click here to listen to the 37-minute audio.)

    "You know if we didn’t have the extended program last time – if we all didn’t work really hard to defer the 21 people we deferred, our pass rate would have been 20-something percent."

    A law school professor secretly recorded those comments in the summer of 2015. The school was pushing some faculty to divert graduates to a program that paid them up to $11,200 not to take the bar and instead enter a bar preparation program.

    Charlotte School of Law resumed classes this week with an uncertain future. The ABA has put it on probation, and the Department of Education will no longer give the school federal loan money. School officials hope that changes with the Trump administration."

    https://soundcloud.com/wfae/charlotte-school-of-law-bar-prep-meeting-summer-2015-warning-explicit-language

    Now, grab some popcorn and listen to the taped meeting cited above. This shows you - WITHOUT QUESTION - what truly matters to the law school pigs, i.e. it's not you or your future, chump.

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  13. https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/01/the-for-profit-law-school-that-crumbled/514355/

    ​The Atlantic covers Charlotte Law situation.

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  14. http://jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=123768

    ericcrapton (Jan 23, 2017 - 11:24 am)

    2009:
    "Students have been ahead of their teachers for some time. They have been long coming to law school planning to adopt their training to myriad pursuits. They benefit from their ability to interpret a statute, even if they end up opening a restaurant," writes Frank H. Wu in 2009.

    http://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/applying/articles/2009/04/22/why-law-school-is-for-everyone

    2016:
    "There aren’t enough jobs for new lawyers, and the ones that are available don’t provide a “return on investment,” which leads to fewer people attending law school," writes Frank H. Wu in 2016. http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/the_practice_of_law_has_changed_and_more_schools_should_consolidate_writes/

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    "Keep fucking that chicken!"

    I have no sympathy for law lemmings anymore. They will gladly listen to the law praws and deans, and believe the schools' glossy brochures touting 6-figure average salaries (see: http://jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=123766).

    The scambloggers are just a bunch of bitter losers who couldn't make it in a field where there are 760K jobs for 1.5 million JD holders, the starting salary of $40k hasn't budged in at least 20 years (uhh.. "inflation" much?? But that's what happens when you have such a massive oversupply-Seller's Market) and everything is a one-off in terms of making a living, especially as a solo.

    But, whatever..

    Young 20-something "sophisticated consumers" (luv the courts making sure the Law School Education Dyke doesn't burst-keep dat Education Scam going!!) know more than everyone else and believe, of all people, the Boomers running the Education Show and, lastly, can't use .. what's it called? Oh yeah.. The Internet, invented by AlGore, to find out the truth they simply do not want to hear because, you know, "Follow Your Dreams!!"-and forget about that bugaboo of $300k debt after college and law school that you will never pay off..

    Keep feeding The System idiots. That is, after all, what you are there for.

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    1. That comment about opening a restaurant shows just how far removed Frank Scamster Wu is from reality. Very few people go "to law school planning to adopt [sic] their training to myriad pursuits" unrelated to the practice of law. And someone stuck with a quarter of a million dollars' worth of non-dischargeable debt for a useless JD isn't going to open any fucking restaurant.

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    2. You get anything you want,
      At Frank Wu's Restaurant!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m57gzA2JCcM

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  15. http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/education/article127341129.html#storylink=cpy

    and see also:

    http://jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=123590

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    No closed-school discharge. No fed. student loans for dimwits who need a only a few credit hours to complete their degrees.

    Students phucked.

    "Law School Industrial Komplex.. YOU WIN AGAIN!!"

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  16. "DoE: 50% default or fail to paydown student debt within 7yrs"

    http://jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=123571

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    Broke-as-a-Joke JD's with $250-$300K in non-dischargeable student loan debt pretending that law is a viable career path for all but the PPC, and sometimes even then only the most PPC.

    In debt for life Student Loan Conduits (SLC's) who paid their law prawfs handsomely up front, in full, for virtually valueless undergraduate and graduate degrees.

    Because "Education is good." and those 6-figure average salaries are just waiting for you.

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  17. http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2017/01/charlotte-law-school-fires-two-thirds-of-faculty-and-staff-abandons-teach-out-plan-as-negotiations-w.html

    On January 19, 2017, Paul Caron covered this TTTT developmenTTTT, in an entry entitled “Charlotte Law School Fires Two-Thirds Of Faculty And Staff, Abandons Teach-Out Plan As Negotiations With Department Of Education Collapse; Classes Begin Jan. 23.” Check out the Comments thread below:

    “With an agreement now off the table, Mitchell said, the Charlotte students also don’t qualify for the full and partial tuition refunds available to those who attend a closed school.

    Read more here:

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/education/article127341129.html#storylink=cpy

    They have really and truly destroyed the lives of most of their students.

    Posted by: wtfreqkenneth | Jan 19, 2017 3:00:15 PM

    Being a little melodramatic, aren't we?

    The students can just transfer to another law school to finish their degrees. There are 6 other law schools in North Carolina.

    Posted by: Transfer | Jan 19, 2017 5:00:33 PM

    @Transfer,

    Can I's haz transfer to Dukes Law? I majurd in Bizness Studys at Korinthian, gradumated with a 2.4 Jeepia after just seven years, and scored a 139 on the LSAT. So other law schools will accept me, yeah?

    - Reality

    Posted by: Unemployed Northeastern | Jan 19, 2017 7:18:01 PM”

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    1. These comments show just how ignorant most people are. I saw the following here:

      http://law.uky.edu/admissions/transfer-applicants

      "Admission as a transfer student beyond the first semester of the second-year is rare, and will not typically be granted if you have completed more than 44 hours of law school work. Acceptance by the Admissions Committee in no way implies that all credits from another law school will be accepted for transfer credit."

      It is likely to be the same at other law schools as well.

      Secondly, I saw the following:
      (google "charlotte law school"-24 Google reviews)

      Michael Perez
      in the last week-
      This school has been slated by the ABA and USDOE for closing for defrauding students. Whatever you do not attend this school. Their 1L curve is set very low- D+ - to ensure students have a hardtime transferring. They do an atrocious job at preparing their students for the bar and then blame the students when they do not pass it. Their attrition level is over 55% and so they try to counter that by sabotaging students so they would unable or too discouraged to even attempt to transfer. Their ABA accreditation is in danger of being removed. Their ranking is almost last out all law schools in the US. If you attend this school you are going to be saddled with nearly 150k in non dischargeable debt and not much to show for.

      Also, the school routinely have staff members post positive reviews. All around very questionable school.

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      AND ALSO

      Amber Spelman
      in the last week-
      This school sucks, don't go to any schooled owned & operated by InfiLaw like Florida Coastal Law School or Arizona Summit Law School. The school is run by greedy self-serving people who care nothing about the students they accept, or about the education they provide or their ability or rather inability to prepare to students for the BAR exam. Because of this school's fraudulent actions and greed, I am having to re-do the past 2 years of my law school career b/c schools will only accept 30 credits for transfer and to think I was only a semester away from graduating before the DOE revoked our funding.

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      Both of these reviews were posted in the last week according to Google.

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      AND ALSO

      Chris Callahan
      Chris Callahan
      2 years ago-
      Let's see, it's extraordinarily expensive law school which couldn't exist if it weren't for federally funded student loans so that gullible students could pay the for profit law school rates; and just over half the graduates are passing the bar exam, and a fraction getting real full time jobs that require a law degree and you're strapped with enormous student debt of $125K to $260K for the rest of your life along with impaired credit. What a deal! Scam R It.

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      There are more reviews. Read them.

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    2. I don't believe that Charlotte centers its curve at a D+. The fact remains that the students there cannot do academic work even to the abysmal standard of a bottom-of-the-barrel law skule. A professor recently complained in the media about having given out more failing grades in the last semester than in the rest of his teaching career. In the main, the "students" at Charlotte are dolts who never should have considered law school, and certainly should not have been admitted. They fail out not because of any curve but because of their own intellectual inability.

      Amber Spelman, you should be glad to have even 30 credits from Harlotte accepted elsewhere. Stop posing as an innocent victim. Accept responsibility for your own stupid decision to attend Harlotte.

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  18. Here is the rest of the commentary, regarding CharloTTTTe Sewer of Law's actions, from Caron's readers:

    “It's not like Duke, Wake, or Chapel Hill is going to take them. Elon or North Carolina Central might be possible, but there's no requirement that other accredited schools take these students. Those with poor grades might find themselves with no where to go. Also, second year credits don't usually transfer.

    Posted by: wtfreqkenneth | Jan 19, 2017 7:32:22 PM

    Indeed, Kenneth, and let's be clear about what the student body looks like, 'cuz my earlier post is no parody: the class that entered in 2015 had a median LSAT of 142 and median undergrad GPA of 2.82. 25th percentile scores? 140 and 2.51. Heck, the 25th percentile LSAT the year prior was a 138, which works out to about the 9th percentile of test-takers and but 34 of 101 questions answered correctly.

    https://www.lstreports.com/schools/charlotte/admissions/

    Posted by: Unemployed Northeastern | Jan 20, 2017 8:58:29 AM
    That's what makes this so heartbreaking and, at the same time, so reprehensible. Charlotte has been taking students who have LSAT scores that other schools won't touch with a ten foot pole, leaving most of these students with little to no options.

    Posted by: Law Prof | Jan 20, 2017 9:41:47 AM”

    The fact remains that other schools - the decent ones, anyway - will not take a chance on waterheads who scored 141 on the LSAT or earned a 2.83 GPA in Gender Studies. While transfer students will not affect input numbers, the ABA diploma mills do not want to incur a precipitous drop in bar passage rates by enrolling these cretins. Yes, what an honorable admi$$ion$ policy at CharloTTTTe SOL, huh?!?!

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    1. Those "students" deserve a share of the responsibility for their plight. Innocent victims they are not. Really, how can people with LSAT scores of 138 and the like consider themselves suited for law school? Just exactly how shitty a score would they have to get before they realized that they should find another line of work? Christ be fucked, 138 is horrible.

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    2. If the best someone can do is a 138, they clearly lack the skills of reasoning to see when they're being scammed. And it's not a crime to be stupid (though in this case stupidity costs the taxpayers $$$$$)

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  19. And - Charlotte students are so desperate, the school just began a food drive:

    http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article129152714.html

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    Well, this foreshadows what is to come, at any rate. And at least will get the students used to begging for scraps and handouts, etc.

    Does it get any more pathetic than this, seriously?!??

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    1. The request for baby food at that food bank is astonishing. People stupid enough to attend Harlotte should not be allowed to breed.

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