Monday, March 27, 2017

Charlotte School of Law Has a New Dean; Pigs Trying to Join the Non-Profit World

Dean Steps Down, Remains on Faculty: On March 20, 2017, Michael Gordon wrote a Charlotte Observer piece entitled “Top Charlotte School of Law leader steps down.” Check out this opening:

“With his school’s future hanging in the balance, the dean of the beleaguered Charlotte School of Law is stepping down. 

Jay Conison has led the uptown, for-profit school for almost four years. Charlotte Law announced his departure with a four-paragraph statement Monday afternoon. Conison will remain on the faculty, the statement said. 

He will be replaced on an interim basis by Scott Broyles, a former federal prosecutor who joined the Charlotte faculty in 2006. 

“I am honored that the faculty has placed its trust in me as we move forward,” Broyles said in the school’s statement. “While we face serious challenges, our aim is clear: to restore faith in our institution through consistent standards in admissions and best practices in the classroom.” 

The school’s alumni, which in February called on Conison and school President Chidi Ogene to resign, applauded the change. 

“We are excited about Dean Broyles’ vision for the Charlotte School of Law and for his leadership,” said Charlotte attorney Lee Robertson Jr, president of the alumni association. “Dean Broyles has been a respected and dedicated member of the faculty for many years, and our alumni are optimistic for the future of our law school.” 

Conison led the for-profit school during its most tumultuous era and leaves his leadership position while the uptown school straddles an uncertain future. 

Charlotte Law, like law schools nationwide, was hit hard by the recession and the resulting shrinkage of legal jobs. But Charlotte Law’s problems only grew from there. 

In November, the school was placed on probation by the American Bar Association for longstanding problems with admission, curriculum and bar exam test scores. A month later, the Department of Education made the school the first-ever accredited law school to lose access to the federal student-loan program. The department singled out Conison and school President Chidi Ogene and accused them of hiding the seriousness of the school’s shortcomings from current and prospective students.” [Emphasis mine]

The fact that Jay Conison will remain on the faculty at this FOURTH TIER DUNG PIT shows that the school is merely moving chairs on a sinking ship. If the commode was truly outraged by his conduct, they would have asked him to resign his position. Then again, the typical “law professor” has less honor and integrity than a street thug. Hell, even the common criminal has enough balls to rob you – without pretending that they are performing a “public service.”

OTTTTher DevelopmenTTTT$: On March 22, 2017, Charlotte NPR affiliate WFAE featured a report labeled “Charlotte School Of Law To Go Non-Profit As Part Of Overhaul.” The story is from Lisa Worf and Marshall Terry. Take a look at this revealing portion:

“Charlotte School of Law is on its way to becoming a non-profit. It's part of the plan to get the law school's federal loan money re-instated. WFAE's Lisa Worf has been following the school's struggles since the American Bar Association placed the law school on probation this past fall. She joins Morning Edition host Marshall Terry.

MT: How would this work? 

LW: The school's new dean, Scott Broyles, says the plan is to partner with a university in the northeast. InfiLaw, the company who now owns Charlotte School of Law, wouldn't make academic decisions, but, instead, deal with the school's day-to-day operations. 

MT: How much of a difference would this change make? Is it a smokescreen? 

LW: It's hard to say at this point. It's not clear how that agreement between the non-profit board and InfiLaw would work, nor how much the school would pay InfiLaw. But the plan also calls for faculty to play a bigger role in making academic decisions, starting with admissions standards. Here's Broyles: 

SB: Kind of the hydraulic pressures that were out there moving us in the bad direction for the last few years as far as the quality of students, we've effectively removed all that… 

MT: Is this enough to persuade the Department of Education to begin cutting federal loan checks again to Charlotte School of Law? 

LW: That remains to be seen. A letter from the Department of Education in January didn't mention the option of re-instating federal loan money to the school back. It simply noted because the school hadn't agreed to close, students wouldn't have their federal loans forgiven. But Broyles says a few things have changed since then. 

SB: The complaints that were out there, that were addressed by the ABA and then in part adopted by the DOE people, those have been resolved for practical purposes. They really don't have any reason to criticize the school going forward. And, secondly, it's a new administration. 

LW: He's talking about the Department of Education under the Trump administration. Previously, the department was cracking down on for-profit colleges, but the current administration has a better view of them. Broyles thinks that'll help the school, even though the plan still is to become a non-profit.” [Emphasis mine]

How honorable, huh?!?!

Conclusion: As you can see, the cockroaches are trying to explore their opTTTTion$. The bitches and hags realize that there is less heat on for-profit cess pits, but they are also looking at joining a non-profit in the northeast United States. In the final analysis, the law school pigs will do and say anything to keep the gravy train of federal student loan money pouring into their troughs. Those who attend such trash heaps deserve their fate.


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  2. Hi Nardo, please look at this link.

    Yes, the University of New Haven is going to serve as a recruiting grounds for a law school that is on the verge of closing. I know scholarships are scholarships but if the school is a dumpster fire, then some schools are not worth even free.

    BTW, in the 2000s, some Criminal Justice Faculty really wanted to establish their own law school because they were losing revenue when undergrads left to study law elsewhere.

    I guess this is the continuation of this "dream".

    1. The University of New Haven?

      Has anyone consulted a map? Driving between Charlotte and New Haven takes about twelve hours. Why the hell would a toilet law school associate itself with a toilet university so far away?

    2. Connecticut school enrollment is in a death spiral. Colleges here that recruit primarily in-state can plainly see what is coming and are ready to try any angle.

    3. Wait... New Haven, as in New Haven, Connecticut? That's right next door to Yale University!
      (Also, not to denigrate the city or its citizens, but let's just say that if it wasn't for Yale propping up the city, it would descend into chaos. Yeah, that's how it is. Compare and contrast to other CT cities like Bridgeport. But I'm sure that the lol skool pig scammers will somehow spin that as a way to help the undeserved with "social justice" and all that stuff...)

    4. New Haven is chaotic enough even with Yale's presence. Or perhaps because of it.

  3. Throwaway AttorneyMarch 27, 2017 at 11:05 AM

    Even as captured and corrupt as today's ABA has become, it is pretty obvious that they should be leading the charge in flushing this green floater away for good. It's the very least they can do to maintain the appearance that this profession is still worthy of regulating itself.

  4. You seem so angry....

  5. Without fourth tier law schools stupid pieces of shit who can't get into a real school wouldn't be able to take out $250K+ for a law degree. Think of them.

  6. Nothing wrong with a JD from a T4 school. A bar card is the same as any other bar card.

    Some of you guys need to hold off on the negative comments and fall back and let this school finish the process of reinventing itself!

    I promise they will not disappoint. They even will start teaching towards the bar which will result in better bar scores.

    1. Yes, a Hyundai Excel will get you to the Dollar General and back home on a nice day. I'd rather have a Subaru, Mercedes, Buick, etc in a howling blizzard riding on the Interstate next to an 18 Wheeler...If you graduated from one of these schools after say 2003, we all know that you couldn't get into a better ranked school. Prior to that, any admission to nearly all schools, with a bar card was sufficient. All schools were competitive, even lower tier schools. They simply had sufficient demand and didn't admit just warm bodies.

    2. No one really calls it a bar card you pretentious shitling. Even if this school improves bar pass rates what law firm will hire these grads?

    3. You "promise"? Well then-it's about time for you to co-sign the loans for the new Charlotte admittees.
      And let's be direct-why would a law school need to "reinvent" itself?
      It's clear that you are utterly clueless. Please, go back to watching Boston Legal in your parents' basement. That's a much more productive use of your time.

    4. Throwaway AttorneyMarch 29, 2017 at 12:27 PM

      1:13 is absolutely right.

      Why don't YOU put YOUR money where your proverbial mouth is, and be the guarantor of all the student debt taken out in the name of less-than-subprime debt financing of worthless law degrees from garbage law schools?

    5. Thing is the dipshit has no money to put up. Doesn't have a law license either. Law profs ate him up and shit him out.

  7. "The complaints that were out there...those have been resolved for practical purposes."
    -New Dean

    Far from it! Anybody with a functioning brainstem has already abandoned this Trainwreck. The remaining mouth breathers likely can't​ count to potatoe.

  8. Anyone who applies to Harlotte now, after seeing January's calamity (including frank abuse of the students), is a goddamn idiot.

    1. You're right, OG. As it appears that Charlotte is not going to fold, the scammers being ever resourceful, so they've now teamed-up with a college with an 80% acceptance rate. A veritable pipeline, indeed.
      It would be beyond amusing to show up as the 1L class arrives this year and interview several on camera. When asked why they are attending this esteemed institution, my guess is you'll get the smattering of special snowflakes/whale savers/world savers and many, many blank stares to the question: why are you attending this school in light of its problems?

  9. It’s amazing how hard these shit pit schools fight to keep the lights on. The bastards are harder to kill than the Leonardo DiCaprio character in the Revenant. You’d think at some point, they would see the handwriting on the wall and call it a day. But no. They just keep going and going and going. I guess it’s testament to what a huge gravy train the law school scam was at one time for places like Charlotte. The scamsters will do just about anything to keep that train rolling.


    On March 24, 2017, at 11:57 am, JDU accountholder “kaneloa” started a thread labeled “One last chance for Charlotte law.” Look at these classic responses below.

    Resident “3lol” wrote the following on March 24, 2017 1:15 pm:

    “Wow, pathetic.

    This somewhat resembles a scam you see in the health care world, with a higher education twist. Basically the "nonprofit" school hires for-profit Infilaw as a "management company" of sorts, which then proceeds to suck out all the gains.

    Edit: I don't think this could possibly work. Its shameful how the school is writhing in its death throes.”

    Next up is “soupcansham” – on March 24, 2017 at 2:28 pm:

    “This may be good. Perhaps it could backfire and expose the false dichotomy between for-profit and non-profit schools, at least as far as student loans and outcomes are concerned.”

    User “onehell” provided the following retort on March 24, 2017 4:05 pm:

    “3lol is absolutely right about the comprehensive management services agreements that are used so that for-profit companies can run nonprofit hospitals (or this case, law schools). The for profit gets a management fee instead of an equity stake in the institution, is basically how it works.

    Those agreements do get scrutinized to make sure the nonprofit has enough control to assure operation for charitable purposes, but still it does kinda stretch the envelope on calling oneself a nonprofit.

    The most truly charitable thing the school could have done would have been to close because of the loan forgiveness it would have made possible for its students. But prior reports indicate they had the students pretty well fooled on that one, and had indeed enlisted them in their efforts to pressure DOE to restore loan eligibility.

    Also, going nonprofit might be a case of too little, too late. Sure if they had been nonprofit originally they might never have ended up on the radar of DOE given their recent crusade against for profit higher ed. But now? You can't unring the bell.”

    Here is a quick right jab from “trollfeeder” – posted on March 24, 2017 at 6:08 pm:

    “All three schools are scrambling to become non profit. The revenue bomb is about to explode, so unless they get their houses in order quick, it is game over. Frankly, this should have happened 3-4 years ago.”

    Still want to take the TTTT plunge, Dumbass?!?! Hell, you would be better off paying someone $10K to beat the living piss out of you. At least that pain would only be temporary – and you would not be financially ruined for life.

  11. Hey Nando, as long as we are quoting JD Underground, check out this recent post entitled “Unemployed, Not Licensed, Drowning in Debt, Help”

    “I am trying to get a compliance job, I graduated last May and have not worked since. I currently owe $150k in student loans. I am not licensed and was a history major undergrad. I have received rejection emails from various compliance jobs. I did a few legal internships during law school. I need to find a job ASAP, and I always hear that compliance is a good JD preferred job. I am swimming in debt and my bank account is depleting quickly. Any advice? Maybe my cover letter is throwing them off, I basically slightly modified the cover letter I used for legal internships. Please feel free to share any sample cover letters for compliance jobs.

    Also, what other jobs can I get with a JD degree, does anyone have any specific job titles to share? Every time I google, I find general areas where I can work, but not specific job titles. Please help.”

    When this sucker decided to go to law school three years ago, the scamblogs were well-established and the word was out about the dangers of taking on large debt loads to obtain a JD degree that may end up being worthless, or worse than worthless. But he/she ignored those warnings and fell right into the trap. Now, three years later, this lemming is in a world of shit: Unemployed, up to his/her eyeballs in debt, broke, and, just for that cherry on top, can’t pass the bar exam. Also, note how this fool still believes the law school lies about so-called “JD advantage” jobs. Here’s a newsflash lemming, there is no such thing as JD advantage jobs for a newly minted JD, with no experience, who can’t even pass the bar exam. Unless this lemming suddenly decides to make a living by smuggling heroin out of Thailand, it’s safe to say that going to law school was the worst decision that he/she will ever make.

    1. Was Google down the day this lemming was researching law school? Seriously though, what is the mindset of law students these days? A few years ago, we got a glimpse into the psychology of lemmings. They would come on this blog after their school was flushed, and they would call all of us losers. They thought they were superior and they would get a great job after graduation. Strange how they don't come back to tell their success story. I wish some of these lemmings would start posting more about why the hell they went to law school. Instead we are stuck with the idiot Team AAMPLE troll.

    2. Where did this ass go to law school? At a Cooley, no doubt. I bet that this person couldn't define compliance but just thinks of it, whatever it may be, as a lucrative line of work.

    3. This is "the Supporter of the Old Guy." You need to get back in the race. Although you are a 2 or 3 cylinders short (tired, in debt, and emotionally taxed), you need to go back to school and pursue a solid career. It is hoped that you are young and fit enough to handle the task. In today's economy, you have to show people that you are able to deliver something valuable. Your piece of paper (your degree) is close to worthless.


    arizona summit law school put on probation

    1. Arizona Summit was notified by the ABA Monday. A copy of the ABA's decision is available at the ABA website. Arizona Summit's website has no information about being on probation. I suppose all of Arizona Summit's IT people called in sick this week. They will comply with the ABA requirement to disclose their probation status when they collect all of the seat deposits from the, as soon as possible. Maybe in a few months.

    2. That's three out of three InfiLaw scam schools that are in deep trouble in one way or another. Shut InfiLaw down.

    3. Throwaway AttorneyMarch 30, 2017 at 9:24 AM

      A 25% bar passage rate only gets probation???

      Arizona Summit may be a laughingstock of a law school, but it's just plain criminal that the ABA even allows that institution to retain its accreditation.

    4. InfiLaw toilets have stunk up the joint lately. Then again, the pigs and investors there have made out well. And that's the name of the "higher education" game.

  13. Hilarious. First, for-profit law schools were the wave of the innovative, practice-ready future.

    Now, they are all clamoring for old-school "non-profit" status, because federal student loans.

    Look to your elders, kids, these people are your "example." They have your best interests at heart. Now, go apply to law school and stop asking difficult questions...

  14. Nando and the fellow posters here still do not get it.

    Law school is a business. CSL is a rebuilding / rebranding / reinventing year.

    Best practice in business dictate to make a profit when sales are flat cut expenses.

    But CLS decided to make a power move and add an additional revenue stream - partnering up with an undergrad university. (dollar for dollar conduit)!

    The next play.... bad public image, did not quite meet the public's expectation with the product (JD education), so they responded by giving money to the students, and providing additional Bar/Bri support.

    How about the ship was being steered by the wrong Captain. Donald Trump style "Your Fired" to the old Dean ( and we all can agree the Donald is a winner), and in with a new one Dean who is a proven asset. Who has the ability to get going when the going gets tough, who will steer the ship even through the toughest of times, and ensure in the end that CLS will whether the storm.

    Future Prediction:

    Year 1 - Bar scores stabilized and return to state average level

    Year 2 - All time profits high for CLS

    Year 3 - CLS becomes the crown jewel for Info Law, while stealing the title from the Flag ship school, Florida Costal

    Year 4 - Damage controlled Image turned around and people fall back in love with the idea that a JD is a JD and T4 schools are not that bad after all

    Back end Year 4 - Dean hands the torch over to another new dean and receives standing ovation as he exist the law school for the last time in his career.

    CLS will give most T1 schools a run for their money. Test are just test. Remember spit out on exam day... wash, rinse repeat.

    CLS has in spades what the other T1 schools are missing......HEART!
    With students and grads that are not afraid roll their sleeves up, and grind
    when the going gets tough.

    In four years time, we will all look back and say, geez that guy who posted back in the day was right about CLS.....

    Everybody loves the under dog, with the epic comeback story!

    1. AAMPLE troll,

      If you are going to continue to troll on this website, please come up with something new. You had that funny joke about CLS tarnishing the good AAMPLE name not too long ago. You joked about AAMPLE grads trading war stories over martinis. And then you follow up with this crap. You are a terrible troll.

    2. This is the "Supporter of The Old Guy." The epic comeback story is, also, known as the Cinderella Story. If you have any life experience, then you should know that the Cinderella Story is a dream and not likely to happen.

      Yes, there are lawyers who become incredibly successful. The problem is that many people do not witness (or disregard) the unsuccessful lawyers. For that reason, people become victims of the false narrative; if you work hard, then you will succeed in anything, including law.



    On March 30, 2017, the New York Business Journal featured an Anthony Noto piece entitled "Law schools operated by Ares Capital-backed InfiLaw on probation." Check out these concluding paragraphs:

    "ASLS students taking the bar exam for the first time last year passed at a 24.6 percent rate. The national average was 64.2 percent.

    In Charlotte, 25 percent of students passed the exam on their first try in February, compared to 34.7 percent a year earlier.

    “For those who did not pass, don’t despair, keep working hard on your bar preparation. CSL is behind you,” Interim Dean Scott Broyles wrote in an email to students, adding that the school has put in place — and promised — the ABA improvements.

    “For those of you taking the bar this July, work hard and remember that full bar preparation results in higher passing rates," she said. "That has been demonstrated over and over."

    Even if more of your graduating waterheads manage to pass the bar exam, that does not mean that individuals or companies will hire them to represent them in legal matters. Having a law license and not working as an attorney is pointless, bitch. Also, who gives a damn if CharloTTTTe Sewer of Law is "behind" those students who are retaking the exam? That is mere platitude and nothing more.

    1. Prepare though they may, most people coming out of Harlotte don't have the intelligence to pass the bar exams.


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