Monday, May 1, 2017

Booyah!: Fourth Tier Charlotte School of Law Under Investigation by North Carolina’s Attorney General

Have Fun, Bitches!: On April 29, 2017, the Charlotte Observer published a Jane Stancill report entitled “NC attorney general tells Devos he is investigating Charlotte School of Law.” Review the following:

“N.C. Attorney General Josh Stein’s office has written to U.S. Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, informing her of its investigation of the troubled for-profit Charlotte School of Law. 

The April 12 letter, signed by Special Deputy Attorney General Harriet Worley and Assistant Attorney General Matt Liles, urges protection of students who may be in danger of losing eligibility for loan forgiveness due to the education department’s deadline rules related to withdrawal dates. The letter points out that the school appeared to be about to close and repeatedly shifted dates for its reopening this semester.

The letter was first reported by Politico.

The school’s future has been in doubt since the Obama administration cut off its federal funding. The school has also been on probation from the American Bar Association because of its admissions policies. 

The letter says more than half of the for-profit law school’s students have withdrawn. Only 25 percent of students passed the state bar exam in February, the letter said, and the average debt upon graduation is almost $162,000.

The North Carolina officials pointed out various signs that the school is on the brink of closing. 

The school’s landlord said that the school is willing to sublet its classroom space and the school paid its city and county taxes 169 days late. Enrollment is below the 500-student minimum target the school had previously set out.” [Emphasis mine]

Those aren’t great signs for the pigs at this ABA-accredited cesspool. Now, look at the next two paragraphs:

“As you have noted in your public statements, educational institutions must be accountable,” the letter to DeVos said. “Inevitably, some schools will not be a success. When those unsuccessful schools shut down, their former students will be left with long-lasting impacts from debt. If CSL closes, this case will be the first opportunity to establish how your Department will protect students’ interests when post-secondary educational institutions do not succeed.” 

Scott Broyles, a popular faculty member at Charlotte School of Law since it opened in 2006, resigned as dean this month after only three weeks on the job. He cited disagreements with the administration over strategies to best serve the school, and frustration with the Department of Education’s continue refusal to release loans to cover tuition and living expenses of the students.” [Emphasis mine]

Something tells me that DeVos didn’t mean it when she said that educational institutions must be held accountable for their actions. That was mere fodder for her supporters. “Higher education” is big business in this country – and this lady is not about to upset that $y$tem. It is nice to see the school struggle though.

Other Coverage: Staci Zaretsky posted an ATL entry on this development, on April 27, 2017. That piece was labeled “Troubled Law School Under Investigation By State Attorney General, Hopes Betsy Devos Will Come To Its Rescue.” Take a look at this opening:

“Charlotte School of Law has been through the wringer in recent months. From being placed on probation by the American Bar Association over its graduates’ repeated bar failures to being booted from the federal student loan program by the Department of Education to coming perilously close to failing the Department of Education’s gainful employment test to posting the worst bar exam passage rates in the school’s history to having two deans quit, one right after the other, you’d think that nothing else could possibly go wrong for this embattled law school — but you’d be wrong. 

Not only has North Carolina Attorney General Josh Stein opened an investigation into the for-profit law school, but the University of North Carolina system, which regulates for-profit colleges in the state, has also opened a review of the law school’s state operating license. We’ll tackle what’s going on with the state attorney general’s office first, as Stein is “very concerned about the current situation at the school” — as he should be, all things considered.

According to POLITICO, which first reported on this story, Stein is “investigating the school under the state’s civil consumer protection laws,” looking into Charlotte Law’s potential closure, and questioning the school’s attempts to restore its access to federal loans. It seems that the Department of Education, under the reign of Secretary Betsy DeVos, actually invited Charlotte Law to reapply for federal funding. In the hope that the Trump administration would be a little more receptive to the failing for-profit institution, Charlotte Law did just that on March 29 — “at the direct suggestion of a top department official” — with the school’s president, Chidi Ogene, urging DeVos to give “all possible priority” to its reinstatement application.” [Emphasis mine]

Idi Amin doppelganger Idi Ogene knows how to play the game. Plus, this trash heap is backed by Infilaw, i.e. Sterling Partners. Then again, maybe the scum who run the equity firm get tired of the bad press and try to unload this dump. However, who would purchase the commode?

Conclusion: In the end, I don’t see this pile of rotting garbage going out of business – at least not due to losing federal student loan funding. If DeVos invited the cockroaches to reapply for reinstatement, then they should be on track for more cash. After all, it is someone else’s money – and politicians don’t mind pissing that away.


  1. Team AAMPLE troll here,

    I am not a lawyer. But I know a lot about lawyers because I watched The Practice and I was represented by an AAMPLE grad one time. This is terrible what has happened to Charlotte, an AAMPLE school! Don’t believe these people telling you that JDs work at Starbucks. Just think of all the business jobs JDs get:

    -claims adjuster at insurance company
    -human resources
    -pest control

    And if you are lucky and really hustle, lingerie sales! You can work in government as a customer service clerk or a parole officer. Just think about how impressed you’re coworkers will be when you show them that bar card.

    Maybe one of the 121 Charlotte grads from the class of 2016, still unemployed as of March, can comment about how great there JD is? Someone out there must think borrowing $250,000 to attend a T4 is a great investment.

    1. Team Fool chiming! The only problem with paying $250000 is that its not enough! As we all know from reading John Grisham novels, lawyers all make lots of money if they are willing work hard and have sex with gorgeous women. A T4 would be worth $250 zillion dollars. Old Guy do you concur?!?!

  2. I'll pay $5 for the sign that says "Charlotte School of Law". It will make a nice addition to the future Museum of Educational Scams.

    And is Indiana Tech's famous curated art collection for sale?

    1. If you ever do found and run the Museum of Education Scams? I have a degree in art history and I love museums, and I'm pretty good at giving tours and speaking to crowds.

    2. You can be curator. Call it a "JD-advantage" job.

      We just have to get funding. I suggest that the state cut off student loans to the toilets (90% of law schools) and give our museum a little portion of the savings from bad loans.

      Also, we need a building. How about the one at Indiana Tech? It enjoys a nice central location at the "Crossroads of America".

    3. Possibly not the best funding plan.

      Open an adjunct law school, cut costs by teaching from Cliff Notes For Torts, Cliff Notes for Contracts...

      Charge $55,000 tuition, throw in a free season pass to the museum.

      Hire a few graduates at the museum to pump up the USNWR statistics.


    4. Curator at an art museum is definitely "JD Advantage," hands down. Just look what Jay Conison listed as JD Advantage jobs, for example.

    5. Sorry, I meant to ask: "If you ever do found and run the Museum of Educational Scams, then can I please join you?" (Somehow, the second half of that sentence disappeared.)
      Oh, and as for it being a "JD advantage" job, my advantage is that I never got a JD!

    6. Well, if you don't have a JD, all bets are off.

  3. I don't see the DoE throwing this sinking dump a lifeline, at this late date.

    Maybe agree to fund the spring semester Loans for the students who want it, IF AND ONLY IF, charlotte agrees to close this summer.

    Even if loans were reinstated, the stellar 25% bar passage rate and the tremendously lousy reputation will ensure such a paltry 1L class size that it won't make financial cents to continue.

    1. Let it sink like a fucking anchor cut loose. No fucking way should the state get involved in rescuing this private toilet.

      Don't give the students a goddamn penny. They've already wasted far too much public money, since we know damn well that most of their jive asses will never repay those loans. To hell with them. To hell with Harlotte.

      Reinstatement of the loans would only prove that the whole mother-fucking federal government doesn't have enough intelligence to fill the rectum of a nematode.

  4. Throwaway AttorneyMay 1, 2017 at 11:49 AM

    I just think it's pure gold that the Podesta Group has been hired to lobby for Infilaw. We'll see how a Betsy DeVos headed Department of Education handles this, but perhaps it's time to start writing a few letters....

    1. One can only hope that Podesta Group's e-mails get hacked and we can see what the folks of Infilaw are really thinking.

  5. What a shitty law school. Shut it down.

  6. Charlotte Law. Where dreams die. Maybe they can rename it the Langston Hughes School of Law.

    1. What happens to a toilet school?

      Does it dry up like a raisin in the sun? Does it stink like rotten meat? Or does it explode?

  7. Michael Horn at Forbes has a piece on the law school crisis. He wrote, “non-elite law schools are in crisis...I embarked on a listening tour and spoke with a handful of law deans from around the country. All confirmed the bleak picture...They talked about their inability to innovate in a disruptive way because of a legacy business model with costs that they had to continue to support. They bemoaned the lack of cash from both their operations and the central university. They speculated about mergers to come to share services and reduce costs.”

    When the deans moan about costs, they are referring to the bloated, exorbitant salaries paid to lazy law professors. This is why we have had to endure years of drivel from the likes of Diamond, Seto, Leiter, and Simkovic. These lazy bastards don’t want to lose their six figure salary job, that only requires them to work a few hours per week. They also know they are unlikely to get hired by a legal employer. And the central universities have no interest in subsidizing the salaries of these pigs either.

    The solutions to the crisis mentioned in the article are pretty funny too. Nova Southeastern now has a course on “financial literacy,” so students can run their own law practices. According to Dean Jon Garon, this is important to teach to students because most law firms have “the same profile as a family restaurant.” Tuition alone at Nova is $38,910 a year. The students at Nova could have used a financial literacy course before borrowing $150,000+ to attend a low ranked law school. Only 49% of grads from the class of 2016 obtained a FT, LT, bar passage required job. Over 20% of grads were unemployed as of March. Not sure how a “financial literacy” can help grads of toilet law schools, unless the course is going to wipe away your student loan debt and give you cash to open a law office.


    On April 27, 2017, the ABA Journal published a Stephanie Francis Ward piece entitled "Still no federal loans for Charlotte School of Law students; state AG opens civil investigation." Enjoy the following portion:

    "Despite reported assurances to the contrary, Charlotte School of Law students say they have received no federal loan money for the spring 2017 semester. Meanwhile, the North Carolina attorney general’s office is investigating the troubled school under the state’s civil consumer protection laws.

    The for-profit law school has told students that if the federal money does not come through, it will be offering institutional loans, says Matt Blevins, a 3L who is scheduled to graduate in 16 days.

    “In January, they said they were pretty sure we’d get money from the Department of Education,” he told the ABA Journal. According to Blevins, there have been rumors that if the federal money does not materialize for those graduating in May and they opt not to take the institutional loan, Charlotte School of Law may withhold their diplomas.

    Many law schools have methods to make emergency loans to students, and universities generally require that students take care of unpaid fees before issuing a diploma, says Barry Currier, the ABA’s managing director of accreditation and legal education.

    “That said, should a matter related to loans to students or the withholding of diplomas come to the accreditation committee or the council, it would be up to those bodies to evaluate the facts in light of the standards and determine whether a standards violation has taken place,” he wrote in an email to the ABA Journal.

    The U.S. Department of Education announced that it was pulling the school’s federal loan money in December, after it was placed on probation by the American Bar Association. The Department of Education found that the law school made “substantial misrepresentations” to current and prospective students regarding its compliance with ABA accreditation standards.

    Since then, the law school has made various statements that the funds would be released, including to the ABA Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar. In March the section announced that a proposed teach-out agreement for the law school was deferred. That followed the school sharing a letter from the Department of Education, “which appears to provide a pathway for the law school to continue to have access to ‘second or subsequent…federal loan disbursements’ for certain of the law school’s students,” Currier wrote in a March 27 letter to the law school.

    Charlotte School of Law did not respond to an interview request from the ABA Journal. Nor did Jay Conison, CSL’s former dean, who according to school spokesperson shared the Department of Education letter with the ABA."

    What a wonderful "institution of higher education," huh?!?! Sadly, waterheads will continue to apply to - and attend - this FOURTH TIER TRASH CAN. It's no wonder why these idiots can't manage to pass the bar exam.

  9. Law Professor Deborah Jones Merritt (best known for her work discovering law grads work in lingerie sales, pest control, and other jobs not requiring a JD) has a piece featured on Tax Prof Blog: Jobs and Salaries for New Lawyers. According to the BLS data, the list of professions that pay more than law has grown to include jobs such as IT managers, pharmacists, and nurse anesthetists. Keep in mind, the BLS data only includes salaried positions and excludes solos. There are hundreds of thousands of solos struggling to earn a living these days.

  10. How many applicants did Whittier get in for the 2017 year that would have been? ATL references a "shockingly low number" but doesn't say what it is.

    1. The number I saw was about 40 students for Fall deemed "admit-worthy" even by this dump's negligible standards.

      Not near enough to keep the law prof pigs fed AND turn a profit for the larger university.

  11. My thinking is this: even if the Dept of Ed turns the student loan spigot on the skool's still facing an investigation by the state's AG. Ouch.

    1. Throwaway AttorneyMay 3, 2017 at 7:07 PM

      And yet there are STILL people out there stupid enough to enroll.

      I, for one, am finding it awfully hard to feel sorry for anyone who chooses to attend this dump in light of such damning information.

      Probably a safer bet to just borrow $200K and blow it on cocaine and hookers.

    2. Agreed-but I do feel sorry for the taxpayers who will end up footing the bill when the loans default.

    3. I do not feel sorry for the idiot 0L's nor the taxpayers.

      The 0L's can't or won't read, or won't believe what they read from us 20, 30 and me, 40 year out practicing lawyers, and the taxpayers ELECTED the folks who voted for the taxpayer buyout.

      The taxpayers are perhaps affected by a buck or two in their taxes.

      The 0L's taste the full fury of the debt they have so foolishly incurred. They will never recover financially, unless they leave the country, or simply go off the grid entirely. Hard to do unless one becomes a sheep farmer, or catfish wrangler.

  12. From the toilet's web page:

    "Welcome To Charlotte School of Law

    Creating Lawyers of the Future

    Charlotte School of Law provides practice ready opportunities for those pursuing a career in law. Fully accredited by the American Bar Association, Charlotte School of Law is equipped with advanced industry resources and legal mentors for students practicing law."

    If your cretinous graduates can only pass the state bar exam for February 2017, at a 25% clip, then how the hell can you claim to be "creating lawyers for the future"?!?! Also, you cockroaches conveniently "forgot" to mention that your access to federal student loan programs has been cut by the U.S. Department of Education. This is material, since you admit people who have fulls scale IQs in the low 80s.

  13. NC Lawyer here..20 plus years of would think people would learn. Lawyers used to get 400 bucks for a real estate closing and now notaries are basically doing them and getting most of the now 800 fee...gotta go, headed to court to plea a traffic ticket for $50.00

    1. I used to do about 40 real estate closings a year, 20 years ago.

      Now I do 2 or 3.

      Local attorney the title company says attorneys attend about 5% of the closings held at his title company, down from about 80%.

      Local major employer will pay reimburse employees $500 in attorney's fees to sell their house on a corporate required move. I won't handle those, as I do not set the employer's prices on its products, and I don't allow it to set mine.


    On April 13, 2017, the Charlotte Observer featured a Michael Gordon piece, under the headline "Seen as last hope, Charlotte School of Law dean resigns three weeks into job." Enjoy this incredible opening:

    "Scott Broyles, whose appointment as dean of Charlotte School of Law temporarily reunited students, faculty and alumni behind the struggling school, unexpectedly resigned Thursday morning after three weeks on the job.

    Broyles said he submitted resignation a little after 9 a.m. As he was packing up his office, Broyles told the Observer that he felt “I was no longer being effective in my job.”

    Broyles’ appointment to the No. 2 position at Charlotte Law drew universal approval from students, graduates and faculty, which had all called on top school leaders to resign in the wake of massive problems with the federal government and the American Bar Association that still threaten to close the for-profit, uptown school.

    Asked why he was leaving now, Broyles cited disagreements with the administration over strategies to best serve the school, and a growing frustration with the Department of Education’s continue refusal to release loans to cover tuition and living expenses of Charlotte Law’s students. He called the students’ financial plight “tragic.”

    He also said that his “frank” public comments about the school’s problems, which he made after his appointment, ruffled other administrators.

    “A lot of straws continued to pile on the camel’s back,” he said. “If I felt I could effect anything positive for the school at this point, I would not have resigned. I’m not able to do that anymore.”

    Yes, what a robust law school, huh?!?! Hell, it seems a stiff wind could blow this commode to the ground. Sadly, mental midgets will continue to enroll in this filth pit - as long as it remains open. Frankly, those applicants and students don't have the capacity to order food from a McDonald's menu.


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